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    From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 2 06:58:26 2023
    According to NBC News, the settlement filed late Tuesday states that the city will compensate $21,500 to the 300 protesters detained in the aftermath of the Mott Haven neighborhood protest in the Bronx on June 4, 2020.


    This is madness.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Thu Mar 2 14:53:48 2023
    On 3/2/23 8:58 AM, ScottW wrote:
    According to NBC News, the settlement filed late Tuesday states that
    the city will compensate $21,500 to the 300 protesters detained in
    the aftermath of the Mott Haven neighborhood protest in the Bronx on
    June 4, 2020.


    This is madness.

    And all they had to do for it was be "trapped by police and attacked
    with batons and pepper spray" and wait years for a civil suit to make
    its way through the courts.

    https://gothamist.com/news/protesters-trapped-by-nypd-during-2020-black-lives-matter-protest-will-get-215k-each-according-to-new-settlement

    A subsequent report from Human Rights Watch found cops acted “unprovoked
    and without warning, whaling their batons, beating people from car tops, shoving them down to the ground, and firing pepper spray in their
    faces.” The group accused the NYPD of “serious violations of
    international human rights law.” They described the police response,
    which was overseen by high-ranking department officials and primarily
    carried out by the NYPD’s controversial Strategic Response Group, as a “serious violation of international human rights law.”

    End quote.

    Better a settlement than a trip to The Hague.

    Look! Another special police unit run amok:

    https://gothamist.com/news/how-elite-anti-terror-squad-transformed-nypds-approach-protest-policing

    Just for extra credit. Back to Mott Haven:

    https://gothamist.com/news/nypds-ambush-of-peaceful-bronx-protesters-was-executed-nearly-flawlessly-city-leaders-agree

    Hundreds of peaceful protesters marching against racist policing were
    roughed up and kettled in Fort Greene and Williamsburg. But it was the
    Bronx that saw the most aggressive show of NYPD force to date, as part
    of a planned mass arrest operation that Police Commissioner Dermot Shea described Friday as “executed nearly flawlessly.”

    Moments before curfew struck at 8 p.m., demonstrators marching down
    136th Street in Mott Haven were blocked by a wall of heavily armored
    police with bicycles. As those cops heaved their bikes into protesters,
    another group of officers emerged at the top of the street, charging
    down the hill and pushing protesters into the advancing throngs of bike
    cops.

    Without any warning or apparent provocation, protesters found themselves trapped in a shrinking crush of bodies, facing a whirl of batons and
    bikes in either direction. Those who attempted to flee were tackled to
    the ground and arrested. Others pleaded with officers to de-escalate,
    begging them to evacuate a pregnant woman. As protesters gasped for air,
    a dense fog of pepper spray descended over the crowd, launching several
    people into a protracted choking fit.

    End quote.

    Looks like a good time.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 3 07:42:53 2023
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 12:53:51 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/2/23 8:58 AM, ScottW wrote:
    According to NBC News, the settlement filed late Tuesday states that
    the city will compensate $21,500 to the 300 protesters detained in
    the aftermath of the Mott Haven neighborhood protest in the Bronx on
    June 4, 2020.


    This is madness.
    And all they had to do for it was be "trapped by police and attacked
    with batons and pepper spray" and wait years for a civil suit to make
    its way through the courts.

    You'd prefer a Manhatten style outcome....miles and miles of storefronts destroyed and burned.

    Curfews and orders to disburse were ignored. They're rewarding lawless rioting and
    will regret their stupidity.
    Whatever triggers the next event will be boosted by cries of riot for 20K$. This isn't just stupid....it's dangerous and another very good reason for business owners to get
    the fuck out of NYC. They treat them like cannon fodder and will offer them up to rioters as sacrifice.

    (snip the disinformation account of a riot, I should get a gov't grant for that).

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Fri Mar 3 16:04:42 2023
    On 3/3/23 9:42 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 12:53:51 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/2/23 8:58 AM, ScottW wrote:
    According to NBC News, the settlement filed late Tuesday states that
    the city will compensate $21,500 to the 300 protesters detained in
    the aftermath of the Mott Haven neighborhood protest in the Bronx on
    June 4, 2020.


    This is madness.
    And all they had to do for it was be "trapped by police and attacked
    with batons and pepper spray" and wait years for a civil suit to make
    its way through the courts.

    You'd prefer a Manhatten style outcome....miles and miles of storefronts destroyed and burned.

    What were you saying about false choices yesterday? Manhattan and the
    Bronx are different places.

    Curfews and orders to disburse were ignored. They're rewarding lawless rioting and
    will regret their stupidity.

    The NYP has been kettling and beating protesters since the Gulf War days.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/03/01/what-is-kettling-nyc-pay-millions-in-settlement/11373706002/

    Whatever triggers the next event will be boosted by cries of riot for 20K$.

    Not if the police respond appropriately.

    This isn't just stupid....it's dangerous and another very good reason for business owners to get
    the fuck out of NYC. They treat them like cannon fodder and will offer them up to rioters as sacrifice.

    (snip the disinformation account of a riot, I should get a gov't grant for that).

    How is it disinformation when the facts aren't in dispute?

    https://www.nyc.gov/assets/doi/reports/pdf/2020/DOIRpt.NYPD%20Reponse.%20GeorgeFloyd%20Protests.12.18.2020.pdf

    The NYPD’s use of force and certain crowd control tactics to respond to
    the Floyd protests produced excessive enforcement that contributed to heightened tensions. NYPD’s use of force on protesters—encirclement (commonly called “kettling”), mass arrests, baton and pepper spray use,
    and other tactics—reflected a failure to calibrate an appropriate
    balance between valid public safety or officer safety interests and the
    rights of protesters to assemble and express their views...

    Thursday, June 4

    Unlike some protests that continued in various parts of Manhattan and
    Brooklyn well after 8:00 p.m., the NYPD strictly enforced the curfew in
    the Bronx, after protesters marched from The Hub (the area around the intersection of East 147th Street, Willis Avenue, and 3rd Avenue)
    through the neighborhood of Mott Haven. Shortly before the 8:00 p.m.
    curfew took effect, NYPD Strategic Response Group (SRG) bicycle squad
    officers blocked the path of the protest group at Brook Avenue and East
    136th Street. Simultaneously, another group of NYPD personnel approached
    from behind the protest group to enclose a larger portion of the group
    on a block with parked cars lining either side. Many protesters at the
    scene reported that officers blocked their movements leaving no
    opportunity to exit or disperse voluntarily. At around 8:00 p.m.,
    officers began executing mass arrests for curfew violations, which were accomplished in part by using physical force against protesters,
    including striking them with batons. Among those arrested were
    identified legal observers, mainly from the National Lawyers Guild, and identified “medical volunteers” (not a legally defined category, but a
    term adopted by a number of protest or civil rights organizations to
    indicate those who wear insignia or other markings to show they are
    trained to provide medical treatment).

    End quote.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 4 13:23:25 2023
    On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 2:04:45 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/3/23 9:42 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 12:53:51 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/2/23 8:58 AM, ScottW wrote:
    According to NBC News, the settlement filed late Tuesday states that
    the city will compensate $21,500 to the 300 protesters detained in
    the aftermath of the Mott Haven neighborhood protest in the Bronx on
    June 4, 2020.


    This is madness.
    And all they had to do for it was be "trapped by police and attacked
    with batons and pepper spray" and wait years for a civil suit to make
    its way through the courts.

    You'd prefer a Manhatten style outcome....miles and miles of storefronts destroyed and burned.
    What were you saying about false choices yesterday? Manhattan and the
    Bronx are different places.

    They learned from the Manhattan result. Not enforcing riot control measures leads to out of control riots.

    (snip your proof protestors had no intention of complying with curfew orders)

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sat Mar 4 16:53:28 2023
    On 3/4/23 3:23 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 2:04:45 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/3/23 9:42 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 12:53:51 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/2/23 8:58 AM, ScottW wrote:
    According to NBC News, the settlement filed late Tuesday states that >>>>> the city will compensate $21,500 to the 300 protesters detained in
    the aftermath of the Mott Haven neighborhood protest in the Bronx on >>>>> June 4, 2020.


    This is madness.
    And all they had to do for it was be "trapped by police and attacked
    with batons and pepper spray" and wait years for a civil suit to make
    its way through the courts.

    You'd prefer a Manhatten style outcome....miles and miles of storefronts destroyed and burned.
    What were you saying about false choices yesterday? Manhattan and the
    Bronx are different places.

    They learned from the Manhattan result. Not enforcing riot control measures
    leads to out of control riots.

    So does not performing standard deescalation procedures.

    (snip your proof protestors had no intention of complying with curfew orders)

    No, that is not in the report. They could not comply due to police
    action which commenced with arrests, not dispersion.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sat Mar 4 16:58:58 2023
    On 3/4/23 4:56 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 2:53:30 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/4/23 3:23 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 2:04:45 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/3/23 9:42 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 12:53:51 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/2/23 8:58 AM, ScottW wrote:
    According to NBC News, the settlement filed late Tuesday states that >>>>>>> the city will compensate $21,500 to the 300 protesters detained in >>>>>>> the aftermath of the Mott Haven neighborhood protest in the Bronx on >>>>>>> June 4, 2020.


    This is madness.
    And all they had to do for it was be "trapped by police and attacked >>>>>> with batons and pepper spray" and wait years for a civil suit to make >>>>>> its way through the courts.

    You'd prefer a Manhatten style outcome....miles and miles of storefronts destroyed and burned.
    What were you saying about false choices yesterday? Manhattan and the
    Bronx are different places.

    They learned from the Manhattan result. Not enforcing riot control measures >>> leads to out of control riots.
    So does not performing standard deescalation procedures.

    It's the cops fault the rioters riot? GMAFB.

    The protesters in the Bronx weren't rioting.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 4 14:56:17 2023
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 2:53:30 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/4/23 3:23 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 2:04:45 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/3/23 9:42 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 12:53:51 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/2/23 8:58 AM, ScottW wrote:
    According to NBC News, the settlement filed late Tuesday states that >>>>> the city will compensate $21,500 to the 300 protesters detained in >>>>> the aftermath of the Mott Haven neighborhood protest in the Bronx on >>>>> June 4, 2020.


    This is madness.
    And all they had to do for it was be "trapped by police and attacked >>>> with batons and pepper spray" and wait years for a civil suit to make >>>> its way through the courts.

    You'd prefer a Manhatten style outcome....miles and miles of storefronts destroyed and burned.
    What were you saying about false choices yesterday? Manhattan and the
    Bronx are different places.

    They learned from the Manhattan result. Not enforcing riot control measures
    leads to out of control riots.
    So does not performing standard deescalation procedures.

    It's the cops fault the rioters riot? GMAFB.

    ScottW

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 4 19:42:34 2023
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 2:59:00 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/4/23 4:56 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 2:53:30 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/4/23 3:23 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 2:04:45 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/3/23 9:42 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 12:53:51 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>> On 3/2/23 8:58 AM, ScottW wrote:
    According to NBC News, the settlement filed late Tuesday states that >>>>>>> the city will compensate $21,500 to the 300 protesters detained in >>>>>>> the aftermath of the Mott Haven neighborhood protest in the Bronx on >>>>>>> June 4, 2020.


    This is madness.
    And all they had to do for it was be "trapped by police and attacked >>>>>> with batons and pepper spray" and wait years for a civil suit to make >>>>>> its way through the courts.

    You'd prefer a Manhatten style outcome....miles and miles of storefronts destroyed and burned.
    What were you saying about false choices yesterday? Manhattan and the >>>> Bronx are different places.

    They learned from the Manhattan result. Not enforcing riot control measures
    leads to out of control riots.
    So does not performing standard deescalation procedures.

    It's the cops fault the rioters riot? GMAFB.
    The protesters in the Bronx weren't rioting.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/nypd-searching-for-suspect-in-shooting-death-of-beloved-bodega-worker-upper-east-side-nyc/

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sun Mar 5 06:31:04 2023
    On 3/4/23 9:42 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 2:59:00 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/4/23 4:56 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 2:53:30 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/4/23 3:23 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 2:04:45 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/3/23 9:42 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 12:53:51 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 3/2/23 8:58 AM, ScottW wrote:
    According to NBC News, the settlement filed late Tuesday states that >>>>>>>>> the city will compensate $21,500 to the 300 protesters detained in >>>>>>>>> the aftermath of the Mott Haven neighborhood protest in the Bronx on >>>>>>>>> June 4, 2020.


    This is madness.
    And all they had to do for it was be "trapped by police and attacked >>>>>>>> with batons and pepper spray" and wait years for a civil suit to make >>>>>>>> its way through the courts.

    You'd prefer a Manhatten style outcome....miles and miles of storefronts destroyed and burned.
    What were you saying about false choices yesterday? Manhattan and the >>>>>> Bronx are different places.

    They learned from the Manhattan result. Not enforcing riot control measures
    leads to out of control riots.
    So does not performing standard deescalation procedures.

    It's the cops fault the rioters riot? GMAFB.
    The protesters in the Bronx weren't rioting.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/nypd-searching-for-suspect-in-shooting-death-of-beloved-bodega-worker-upper-east-side-nyc/

    Wrong thread.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 5 18:25:39 2023
    On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 4:31:07 AM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/4/23 9:42 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 2:59:00 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/4/23 4:56 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 2:53:30 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/4/23 3:23 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 2:04:45 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/3/23 9:42 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 12:53:51 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 3/2/23 8:58 AM, ScottW wrote:
    According to NBC News, the settlement filed late Tuesday states that
    the city will compensate $21,500 to the 300 protesters detained in >>>>>>>>> the aftermath of the Mott Haven neighborhood protest in the Bronx on
    June 4, 2020.


    This is madness.
    And all they had to do for it was be "trapped by police and attacked
    with batons and pepper spray" and wait years for a civil suit to make
    its way through the courts.

    You'd prefer a Manhatten style outcome....miles and miles of storefronts destroyed and burned.
    What were you saying about false choices yesterday? Manhattan and the >>>>>> Bronx are different places.

    They learned from the Manhattan result. Not enforcing riot control measures
    leads to out of control riots.
    So does not performing standard deescalation procedures.

    It's the cops fault the rioters riot? GMAFB.
    The protesters in the Bronx weren't rioting.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/nypd-searching-for-suspect-in-shooting-death-of-beloved-bodega-worker-upper-east-side-nyc/
    Wrong thread.

    When I searched it came up with that link which had multiple stories in it, including one on the scope of George Floyd rioting, looting, arson,
    and violence against cops in the Bronx. I even copied the link in my own browser to insure the relevant story was there.
    It was....and now it isn't. Oh well.

    Here's another.

    https://abc7ny.com/looting-vandalism-officers-attacked-fordham-damage/6226544/

    The protestors in the bronx looted, burned, and attacked cops days before the curfews were enforced. It wasn't until the cops started enforcing the curfews that the violence ceased. They actually ended up lifting the curfew a day earlier than planned.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Mon Mar 6 15:22:17 2023
    On 3/5/23 8:25 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 4:31:07 AM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/4/23 9:42 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 2:59:00 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/4/23 4:56 PM, ScottW wrote:

    Not enforcing riot control measures leads to out of control riots. >>>>>> So does not performing standard deescalation procedures.

    It's the cops fault the rioters riot? GMAFB.
    The protesters in the Bronx weren't rioting.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/nypd-searching-for-suspect-in-shooting-death-of-beloved-bodega-worker-upper-east-side-nyc/

    Wrong thread.

    When I searched it came up with that link which had multiple stories
    in it, including one on the scope of George Floyd rioting, looting,
    arson, and violence against cops in the Bronx. I even copied the
    link in my own browser to insure the relevant story was there. It
    was....and now it isn't. Oh well.

    Why? The IG report is already cited.

    Here's another.

    https://abc7ny.com/looting-vandalism-officers-attacked-fordham-damage/6226544/

    The protestors in the bronx looted, burned, and attacked cops days before the curfews were enforced. It wasn't until the cops started enforcing the curfews that the violence ceased. They actually ended
    up lifting the curfew a day earlier than planned.

    Congrats. That was in the official report I cited. Check out the June 1
    entry on p. 16. Those facts are not in dispute.

    The curfew ended, arrests dropped but protests continued peacefully.
    More from the report:

    "On June 7, Mayor de Blasio ended the curfew a day earlier than
    initially planned. Largely peaceful gatherings were held throughout the
    day, and NYPD arrests for protest- related activity dropped dramatically.

    Between June 8 and June 20, New York City continued to have large
    protests, mostly without the confrontations between police and
    protesters that had happened in the previous week. For this period, NYPD recorded 24 arrests related to protest activity, three officer injuries,
    and damage to 15 police vehicles."

    While you think the settlement is an incentive to riot in the future,
    the opposite is the case: a police that is viewed as acting in a fair
    manner inspires less violence:

    "The intertwined questions of procedural fairness and legitimacy—the
    extent to which people view an institution as having rightful authority—
    are also important beyond the immediate protest context. When people
    view police as behaving in a way that is procedurally fair or just, they
    are more likely to view the exercise of police authority in general as legitimate. Conversely, where they think the police act unfairly, they
    are more likely to resist police instructions or authority generally,
    and even support the use of violence to do so. Fair treatment thus not
    only encourages lawful behavior but also may improve officer safety and effectiveness."

    To oppose the settlement is to support an illegitimate police.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 6 21:02:42 2023
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 1:22:20 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/5/23 8:25 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 4:31:07 AM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/4/23 9:42 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 2:59:00 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/4/23 4:56 PM, ScottW wrote:

    Not enforcing riot control measures leads to out of control riots. >>>>>> So does not performing standard deescalation procedures.

    It's the cops fault the rioters riot? GMAFB.
    The protesters in the Bronx weren't rioting.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/nypd-searching-for-suspect-in-shooting-death-of-beloved-bodega-worker-upper-east-side-nyc/

    Wrong thread.

    When I searched it came up with that link which had multiple stories
    in it, including one on the scope of George Floyd rioting, looting,
    arson, and violence against cops in the Bronx. I even copied the
    link in my own browser to insure the relevant story was there. It was....and now it isn't. Oh well.
    Why? The IG report is already cited.
    Here's another.

    https://abc7ny.com/looting-vandalism-officers-attacked-fordham-damage/6226544/

    The protestors in the bronx looted, burned, and attacked cops days before the curfews were enforced. It wasn't until the cops started enforcing the curfews that the violence ceased. They actually ended
    up lifting the curfew a day earlier than planned.
    Congrats. That was in the official report I cited. Check out the June 1 entry on p. 16. Those facts are not in dispute.

    Then we agree, your claim the rioters weren't rioting was BS.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Tue Mar 7 07:37:43 2023
    On 3/6/23 11:02 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 1:22:20 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/5/23 8:25 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 4:31:07 AM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/4/23 9:42 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 2:59:00 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:

    Not enforcing riot control measures leads to out of control riots. >>>>>>>> So does not performing standard deescalation procedures.

    It's the cops fault the rioters riot? GMAFB.
    The protesters in the Bronx weren't rioting.

    <snip>

    Here's another.

    https://abc7ny.com/looting-vandalism-officers-attacked-fordham-damage/6226544/

    The protestors in the bronx looted, burned, and attacked cops days before the curfews were enforced. It wasn't until the cops started enforcing the curfews that the violence ceased. They actually ended
    up lifting the curfew a day earlier than planned.
    Congrats. That was in the official report I cited. Check out the June 1
    entry on p. 16. Those facts are not in dispute.

    Then we agree, your claim the rioters weren't rioting was BS.

    The police action in question wasn't a direct response to rioting. If
    you think that different people rioted on a different day justifies it,
    the judge and inspector general disagree.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 7 13:39:59 2023
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 5:37:45 AM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/6/23 11:02 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 1:22:20 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/5/23 8:25 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 4:31:07 AM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/4/23 9:42 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 2:59:00 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:

    Not enforcing riot control measures leads to out of control riots. >>>>>>>> So does not performing standard deescalation procedures.

    It's the cops fault the rioters riot? GMAFB.
    The protesters in the Bronx weren't rioting.
    <snip>
    Here's another.

    https://abc7ny.com/looting-vandalism-officers-attacked-fordham-damage/6226544/

    The protestors in the bronx looted, burned, and attacked cops days before the curfews were enforced. It wasn't until the cops started enforcing the curfews that the violence ceased. They actually ended
    up lifting the curfew a day earlier than planned.
    Congrats. That was in the official report I cited. Check out the June 1 >> entry on p. 16. Those facts are not in dispute.

    Then we agree, your claim the rioters weren't rioting was BS.
    The police action in question wasn't a direct response to rioting.

    LoL.... Unbelievable.....

    ScottW

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