• Hmmm...could be some consequences

    From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 28 16:42:43 2023
    On Friday evening, federal Judge William Alsup ruled that a settlement he had already approved last year resulting from a lawsuit — Sweet v. Cardona — can move forward, which would give 200,000 borrowers defrauded by the schools they attended $6
    billion in debt relief.

    First question....who is the actual lender? I doubt these schools had 6B$ laying around to fork out to deadbeats who are getting a crap education.
    I suspect some kind of bank and/or gov't program is left holding the bag and some of these schools will fold.

    But further down the road, the cost of student loans will certainly increase as non-gov't lenders have to factor in this risk factor.
    Schools will be unable to finance some courses...I suspect financing an education in piano teaching is now off the table.
    Schools may ultimately be unable to offer degrees that have no demand in the job market.

    ScottW

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to ScottW on Tue Feb 28 20:13:27 2023
    On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 7:42:44 PM UTC-5, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday evening, federal Judge William Alsup ruled that a settlement he had already approved last year resulting from a lawsuit — Sweet v. Cardona — can move forward, which would give 200,000 borrowers defrauded by the schools they attended $6
    billion in debt relief.

    First question....who is the actual lender? I doubt these schools had 6B$ laying around to fork out to deadbeats who are getting a crap education.
    I suspect some kind of bank and/or gov't program is left holding the bag and some of these schools will fold.

    But further down the road, the cost of student loans will certainly increase as non-gov't lenders have to factor in this risk factor.
    Schools will be unable to finance some courses...I suspect financing an education in piano teaching is now off the table.
    Schools may ultimately be unable to offer degrees that have no demand in the job market.

    ScottW

    how come Steve isn't working in the public school system he loves so much. educating our kiddies/

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Wed Mar 1 07:02:21 2023
    On 2/28/23 6:42 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday evening, federal Judge William Alsup ruled that a
    settlement he had already approved last year resulting from a lawsuit
    — Sweet v. Cardona — can move forward, which would give 200,000
    borrowers defrauded by the schools they attended $6 billion in debt
    relief.

    First question....who is the actual lender? I doubt these schools
    had 6B$ laying around to fork out to deadbeats who are getting a crap education. I suspect some kind of bank and/or gov't program is left
    holding the bag and some of these schools will fold.

    The student loans are backed by the Education Department, which is why
    this relief is possible.

    As for the schools folding, as did Corinthian, they were defrauding
    students by hoovering up their loan money in exchange for shoddy
    education. AP: ITT misled students about their ability to transfer
    course credits to other colleges. Credits were rarely accepted
    elsewhere, the department said, leaving students with “little to no progress” in their academic careers.

    But further down the road, the cost of student loans will certainly
    increase as non-gov't lenders have to factor in this risk factor.

    There's no risk factor. The schools get paid upfront. The lenders
    usually sell their loans to educational loan repayment specialists who
    can count on federal programs to guarantee returns.

    If there's an increase in the risk that fraudulent schools are caught,
    that's all to the good.

    Schools will be unable to finance some courses...I suspect financing
    an education in piano teaching is now off the table. Schools may
    ultimately be unable to offer degrees that have no demand in the job
    market.

    What are you talking about? Whether or not degrees get offered will be
    decided as it always has.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Wed Mar 1 07:43:34 2023
    On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 8:13:29 PM UTC-8, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 7:42:44 PM UTC-5, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday evening, federal Judge William Alsup ruled that a settlement he had already approved last year resulting from a lawsuit — Sweet v. Cardona — can move forward, which would give 200,000 borrowers defrauded by the schools they attended $6
    billion in debt relief.

    First question....who is the actual lender? I doubt these schools had 6B$ laying around to fork out to deadbeats who are getting a crap education.
    I suspect some kind of bank and/or gov't program is left holding the bag and some of these schools will fold.

    But further down the road, the cost of student loans will certainly increase as non-gov't lenders have to factor in this risk factor.
    Schools will be unable to finance some courses...I suspect financing an education in piano teaching is now off the table.
    Schools may ultimately be unable to offer degrees that have no demand in the job market.

    ScottW
    how come Steve isn't working in the public school system he loves so much. educating our kiddies/

    He home schools.

    ScottW

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