• A shit was in our gov't, know him....hate him

    From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 7 17:45:51 2023
    https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1623044837762273280

    1) Richard Stengel is the founder of the State Department's Global Engagement Center (GEC).

    He describes his job as "chief propagandist."

    "I'm not against propaganda. Every country does it, they have to do it to their own population, & I don't think it's that awful."

    2) Richard Stengel is also one of the creators of Hamilton 68.

    A propaganda campaign created by the political establishment to smear dissenting views as "Russian disinformation," using a fabricated list of 600 Russian Twitter accounts

    3) The Twitter files exposed Hamilton 68 as a scam.

    Yoel Roth, former Twitter head of Trust & Safety, said:

    "Hamilton 68 accused legitimate American accounts of being Russian bots... There is no evidence to support their statements."

    You can read the rest.....he's scum. A by any means necessary type of overlord.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 8 09:22:39 2023
    Hamilton 68

    Interesting.

    https://securingdemocracy.gmfus.org/hamilton-68-a-new-tool-to-track-russian-disinformation-on-twitter/

    "Our objective in providing this dashboard is to help ordinary people, journalists, and other analysts identify Russian messaging themes and
    detect active disinformation or attack campaigns as soon as they begin. Exposing these messages will make information consumers more resilient
    and reduce the effectiveness of Russia’s attempts to influence
    Americans’ thinking, and deter this activity in the future by making it
    less effective.

    We are not telling you what to think, but we believe you should know
    when someone is trying to manipulate you. What you do with that
    information is up to you."

    Another Taibbi triumph, elevating something without influence and long
    shut down.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 8 07:31:37 2023
    On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 7:22:41 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    Hamilton 68

    Interesting.

    https://securingdemocracy.gmfus.org/hamilton-68-a-new-tool-to-track-russian-disinformation-on-twitter/

    "Our objective in providing this dashboard is to help ordinary people,

    We now know that was a lie and you are propagating disinformation.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Wed Feb 8 09:48:43 2023
    On 2/8/23 9:31 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 7:22:41 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    Hamilton 68

    Interesting.

    https://securingdemocracy.gmfus.org/hamilton-68-a-new-tool-to-track-russian-disinformation-on-twitter/

    "Our objective in providing this dashboard is to help ordinary people,

    We now know that was a lie and

    You've changed your view on mind-reading.

    you are propagating disinformation.

    IKWABWAI

    https://weaponizedspaces.substack.com/p/the-truth-about-those-russian-linked

    "Taibbi’s 43-tweet-long thread about Hamilton 68... wasn't concerned
    with how the tool was designed to be used, nor how it helped researchers
    when it was used appropriately. Instead, Taibbi’s entire thread
    attempted to discredit Hamilton 68 by focusing on how the tool was
    misused and offering up a series of strawman arguments that
    misrepresented what the dashboard claimed to do."

    tl/dr: not a bot detector.

    This writer seems to have followed H68 from the start and has serious criticisms of how it was misused, "there was some incredibly lazy and irresponsible reporting that cited Hamilton 68 as its source."

    More:

    In another tweet, Taibbi claimed that Hamilton 68 had “collected a
    handful of mostly real, mostly American accounts, and described their
    organic conversations as Russian scheming.” This is just patently false.
    The dashboard never made any claims about intentionality or witting participation, and it certainly never encouraged anyone to interpret its findings as evidence of “Russian scheming.” Furthermore, “organic conversations” can still be the result of Russian influence. In fact, a
    bunch of Americans organically expressing viewpoints that align closely
    with Russian propaganda narratives is exactly what a successful
    influence operation might look like.

    Unquote.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 8 08:16:28 2023
    On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 7:48:45 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 2/8/23 9:31 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 7:22:41 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    Hamilton 68

    Interesting.

    https://securingdemocracy.gmfus.org/hamilton-68-a-new-tool-to-track-russian-disinformation-on-twitter/

    "Our objective in providing this dashboard is to help ordinary people,

    We now know that was a lie and
    You've changed your view on mind-reading.

    you are propagating disinformation.

    IKWABWAI

    https://weaponizedspaces.substack.com/p/the-truth-about-those-russian-linked

    "Taibbi’s 43-tweet-long thread about Hamilton 68... wasn't concerned
    with how the tool was designed to be used, nor how it helped researchers when it was used appropriately. Instead, Taibbi’s entire thread
    attempted to discredit Hamilton 68 by focusing on how the tool was
    misused and offering up a series of strawman arguments that
    misrepresented what the dashboard claimed to do."

    Yeah...it was "misused". LoL.
    They designed it to be misused.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Wed Feb 8 12:14:32 2023
    On 2/8/23 10:16 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 7:48:45 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 2/8/23 9:31 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 7:22:41 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    Hamilton 68

    Interesting.

    https://securingdemocracy.gmfus.org/hamilton-68-a-new-tool-to-track-russian-disinformation-on-twitter/

    "Our objective in providing this dashboard is to help ordinary people,

    We now know that was a lie and
    You've changed your view on mind-reading.

    you are propagating disinformation.

    IKWABWAI

    https://weaponizedspaces.substack.com/p/the-truth-about-those-russian-linked >>
    "Taibbi’s 43-tweet-long thread about Hamilton 68... wasn't concerned
    with how the tool was designed to be used, nor how it helped researchers
    when it was used appropriately. Instead, Taibbi’s entire thread
    attempted to discredit Hamilton 68 by focusing on how the tool was
    misused and offering up a series of strawman arguments that
    misrepresented what the dashboard claimed to do."

    Yeah...it was "misused". LoL.
    They designed it to be misused.

    The "misuse" was claiming it was meant to track bots when its intent was
    to track influence. As the dashboard was shut down in 2018, Taibbi is Johnny-on-the-spot with this one: old and wrong.

    Hey! The Alliance for Securing Democracy has a response so you don't
    have to mindread:

    https://securingdemocracy.gmfus.org/fact-sheet-hamilton-68-dashboard-2017-2018/

    Recent reporting on Hamilton disregards the dashboard’s published methodology, Hamilton 68 experts’ commentary, and Twitter’s own data.

    The dashboard’s original methodology acknowledged that “the content
    within the network is complex and should be understood in a nuanced
    way.” Members of the media, pundits, and even some lawmakers often
    failed to include appropriate context when using the dashboard’s data, despite ASD experts’ extensive efforts to correct misconceptions at the
    time. Because the data was consistently misunderstood or misrepresented,
    we published multiple follow-up instructions clarifying key points,
    including: “Some accounts we track are automated bots, some are trolls,
    and some are real users. Some are in Russia, but many are not”.

    Unfortunately, the mischaracterization of the dashboard continues today.
    We compiled a list of false or misleading claims and have provided the
    facts here.

    End quote.

    Click thru if you care or just continue regurgitating Fox talking points.

    Okay, one for fun:

    CLAIM: There was no evidence of foreign engagement with the
    #releasethememo hashtag and the Hamilton 68 dashboard erroneously
    suggested that a link existed.

    FACTS: This is directly contradicted by Twitter’s own data (released
    nearly a year after the #releasethememo campaign) that showed over 5,000 mentions of #releasethememo by accounts that Twitter itself identified
    as being affiliated with foreign information operations. This includes significant engagement from accounts released by Twitter in a January
    2019 dataset that it linked to the Russian Internet Research Agency,
    examples of which are below.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 8 14:02:45 2023
    On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 10:14:34 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 2/8/23 10:16 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 7:48:45 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 2/8/23 9:31 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 7:22:41 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    Hamilton 68

    Interesting.

    https://securingdemocracy.gmfus.org/hamilton-68-a-new-tool-to-track-russian-disinformation-on-twitter/

    "Our objective in providing this dashboard is to help ordinary people, >>>
    We now know that was a lie and
    You've changed your view on mind-reading.

    you are propagating disinformation.

    IKWABWAI

    https://weaponizedspaces.substack.com/p/the-truth-about-those-russian-linked

    "Taibbi’s 43-tweet-long thread about Hamilton 68... wasn't concerned
    with how the tool was designed to be used, nor how it helped researchers >> when it was used appropriately. Instead, Taibbi’s entire thread
    attempted to discredit Hamilton 68 by focusing on how the tool was
    misused and offering up a series of strawman arguments that
    misrepresented what the dashboard claimed to do."

    Yeah...it was "misused". LoL.
    They designed it to be misused.
    The "misuse" was claiming it was meant to track bots when its intent was
    to track influence. As the dashboard was shut down in 2018, Taibbi is Johnny-on-the-spot with this one: old and wrong.

    Hey! The Alliance for Securing Democracy has a response so you don't
    have to mindread:

    https://securingdemocracy.gmfus.org/fact-sheet-hamilton-68-dashboard-2017-2018/

    Recent reporting on Hamilton disregards the dashboard’s published methodology, Hamilton 68 experts’ commentary, and Twitter’s own data.

    Is that old twitter or new twitter? Nothing twitter said pre-Musk is credible.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Wed Feb 8 16:31:05 2023
    On 2/8/23 4:02 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 10:14:34 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 2/8/23 10:16 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 7:48:45 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:

    Hey! The Alliance for Securing Democracy has a response so you don't
    have to mindread:

    https://securingdemocracy.gmfus.org/fact-sheet-hamilton-68-dashboard-2017-2018/

    Recent reporting on Hamilton disregards the dashboard’s published
    methodology, Hamilton 68 experts’ commentary, and Twitter’s own data.

    Is that old twitter or new twitter? Nothing twitter said pre-Musk is credible.

    It's the same data, so no "saying" is involved.

    Hope you're catching the hearings. It's ironic the "Weaponizing the
    Government" committee is threatening twitter employees with arrest.

    https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1623413710860562434

    Seems a lot for a day's delay in allowing links to a NY Post article
    available everywhere else.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 8 14:41:15 2023
    On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 2:31:08 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 2/8/23 4:02 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 10:14:34 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 2/8/23 10:16 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 7:48:45 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:

    Hey! The Alliance for Securing Democracy has a response so you don't
    have to mindread:

    https://securingdemocracy.gmfus.org/fact-sheet-hamilton-68-dashboard-2017-2018/

    Recent reporting on Hamilton disregards the dashboard’s published
    methodology, Hamilton 68 experts’ commentary, and Twitter’s own data.

    Is that old twitter or new twitter? Nothing twitter said pre-Musk is credible.
    It's the same data, so no "saying" is involved.

    If you say so....

    ScottW

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