Manchin may have gotten his first taste of what this average rank-and-file status will be like after his long sought-after permitting bill was excluded from the National Defense Authorization Act, likely killing the legislation unless lawmakers reviveit in the next Congress.
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) initially cut a deal with Manchin to include the energy-permitting legislation in the annual government funding bill in exchange for his support of the Inflation Reduction Act.
So Joe....switch parties.
You can be the 50th vote once again....and f' these back stabbing lying bastards all at the same time.
On 12/7/22 12:51 PM, ScottW wrote:revive it in the next Congress.
Manchin may have gotten his first taste of what this average rank-and-file status will be like after his long sought-after permitting bill was excluded from the National Defense Authorization Act, likely killing the legislation unless lawmakers
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) initially cut a deal with Manchin to include the energy-permitting legislation in the annual government funding bill in exchange for his support of the Inflation Reduction Act.
So Joe....switch parties.
You can be the 50th vote once again....and f' these back stabbing lying bastards all at the same time.Republicans blocked Manchin's deal, not Schumer.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/progressives-gop-succeed-blocking-manchins-pipeline-deal-national-defense-bill
Sen. Joe Manchin's legislation to spur oil and gas drilling was left out
of the must-pass national defense bill after conservative Senate
Republicans and progressive House Democrats raised objections...
A few also took umbrage with being asked to support the permitting bill
and reward Manchin for helping deliver a big win for Democrats. Sen.
Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., even described the deal as a"political payback scheme."
"Sen. Manchin, if you think you’re going to get 60 votes to get the sweeteners," said Graham, "you need to think long and hard about what you’re doing."
End quote.
With oil demand dropping, it's hard to call for higher production anyway.
On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 12:19:07 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:revive it in the next Congress.
On 12/7/22 12:51 PM, ScottW wrote:
Manchin may have gotten his first taste of what this average rank-and-file status will be like after his long sought-after permitting bill was excluded from the National Defense Authorization Act, likely killing the legislation unless lawmakers
Republicans blocked Manchin's deal, not Schumer.
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) initially cut a deal with Manchin to include the energy-permitting legislation in the annual government funding bill in exchange for his support of the Inflation Reduction Act.
So Joe....switch parties.
You can be the 50th vote once again....and f' these back stabbing lying bastards all at the same time.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/progressives-gop-succeed-blocking-manchins-pipeline-deal-national-defense-bill
Sen. Joe Manchin's legislation to spur oil and gas drilling was left out
of the must-pass national defense bill after conservative Senate
Republicans and progressive House Democrats raised objections...
A few also took umbrage with being asked to support the permitting bill
and reward Manchin for helping deliver a big win for Democrats. Sen.
Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., even described the deal as a"political payback
scheme."
"Sen. Manchin, if you think you’re going to get 60 votes to get the
sweeteners," said Graham, "you need to think long and hard about what
you’re doing."
End quote.
With oil demand dropping, it's hard to call for higher production anyway.
As energy prices drain the economy of any growth potential....
You're such an economic genius.
On 12/7/22 8:08 PM, ScottW wrote:revive it in the next Congress.
On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 12:19:07 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
On 12/7/22 12:51 PM, ScottW wrote:
Manchin may have gotten his first taste of what this average rank-and-file status will be like after his long sought-after permitting bill was excluded from the National Defense Authorization Act, likely killing the legislation unless lawmakers
Looks like Manchin has his choice of "back stabbing lying bastards" onRepublicans blocked Manchin's deal, not Schumer.
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) initially cut a deal with Manchin to include the energy-permitting legislation in the annual government funding bill in exchange for his support of the Inflation Reduction Act.
So Joe....switch parties.
You can be the 50th vote once again....and f' these back stabbing lying bastards all at the same time.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/progressives-gop-succeed-blocking-manchins-pipeline-deal-national-defense-bill
Sen. Joe Manchin's legislation to spur oil and gas drilling was left out >> of the must-pass national defense bill after conservative Senate
Republicans and progressive House Democrats raised objections...
A few also took umbrage with being asked to support the permitting bill >> and reward Manchin for helping deliver a big win for Democrats. Sen.
Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., even described the deal as a"political payback
scheme."
"Sen. Manchin, if you think you’re going to get 60 votes to get the
sweeteners," said Graham, "you need to think long and hard about what
you’re doing."
End quote.
both sides.
With oil demand dropping, it's hard to call for higher production anyway.
As energy prices drain the economy of any growth potential....What economic genius calls for more production while demand is down? And higher oil and gas prices will speed the transition to alternatives.
You're such an economic genius.
Manchin may have gotten his first taste of what this average rank-and-file status will be like after his long sought-after permitting bill was excluded from the National Defense Authorization Act, likely killing the legislation unless lawmakers reviveit in the next Congress.
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) initially cut a deal with Manchin to include the energy-permitting legislation in the annual government funding bill in exchange for his support of the Inflation Reduction Act.
So Joe....switch parties.
You can be the 50th vote once again....and f' these back stabbing lying bastards all at the same time.
ScottW
On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 8:12:52 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
On 12/7/22 8:08 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 12:19:07 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
Looks like Manchin has his choice of "back stabbing lying bastards" on
both sides.
What economic genius calls for more production while demand is down? AndWith oil demand dropping, it's hard to call for higher production anyway. >>>As energy prices drain the economy of any growth potential....
You're such an economic genius.
higher oil and gas prices will speed the transition to alternatives.
Demand is down as our economy slows and China has been in lockdown for a month.
Demand will return if the still high costs of energy don't choke it out and oil production is fairly long leadtime development anyway.
On 12/8/22 11:55 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 8:12:52 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
On 12/7/22 8:08 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 12:19:07 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
Looks like Manchin has his choice of "back stabbing lying bastards" on
both sides.
What economic genius calls for more production while demand is down? And >> higher oil and gas prices will speed the transition to alternatives.With oil demand dropping, it's hard to call for higher production anyway.
As energy prices drain the economy of any growth potential....
You're such an economic genius.
Demand is down as our economy slows and China has been in lockdown for a month.Gas is $2.50/gal here
On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 1:51:32 PM UTC-5, ScottW wrote:revive it in the next Congress.
Manchin may have gotten his first taste of what this average rank-and-file status will be like after his long sought-after permitting bill was excluded from the National Defense Authorization Act, likely killing the legislation unless lawmakers
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) initially cut a deal with Manchin to include the energy-permitting legislation in the annual government funding bill in exchange for his support of the Inflation Reduction Act.
So Joe....switch parties.
You can be the 50th vote once again....and f' these back stabbing lying bastards all at the same time.
ScottWManchin is not a Republican at heart. ANd the Rep's helped torpedo his pet energy project.
On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 12:01:08 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:revive it in the next Congress.
On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 1:51:32 PM UTC-5, ScottW wrote:
Manchin may have gotten his first taste of what this average rank-and-file status will be like after his long sought-after permitting bill was excluded from the National Defense Authorization Act, likely killing the legislation unless lawmakers
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) initially cut a deal with Manchin to include the energy-permitting legislation in the annual government funding bill in exchange for his support of the Inflation Reduction Act.
So Joe....switch parties.
You can be the 50th vote once again....and f' these back stabbing lying bastards all at the same time.
OH BS. I'm so tired of that line. If dems wanted it in...republicans weren't going to shut down gov't over it.ScottWManchin is not a Republican at heart. ANd the Rep's helped torpedo his pet energy project.
But they didn't push their caucus thereby giving the appearance of republicans having a meaningful say in it.
And they stupidly didn't give it to Joe and take credit for it. Nice job Mitch....but it doesn't make Reps
have any real responsibility for the outcome. It was theater.
If Joe had gotten R support (and it's really hard to understand why they opposed beyond
petty F Joe Manchin for caving earlier) it still wouldn't have made it in cuz dems weren't ever going to let it in.
Dems made the promise and they didn't keep it. All the R's did was act stupid and petty to give them some cover for it.
ScottW
On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 1:18:42 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
On 12/8/22 11:55 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 8:12:52 AM UTC-8, MINe109Gas is $2.50/gal here
wrote:
On 12/7/22 8:08 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 12:19:07 PM UTC-8, MINe109
wrote:
Looks like Manchin has his choice of "back stabbing lying
bastards" on both sides.
What economic genius calls for more production while demand isWith oil demand dropping, it's hard to call for higher
production anyway.
As energy prices drain the economy of any growth
potential.... You're such an economic genius.
down? And higher oil and gas prices will speed the transition
to alternatives.
Demand is down as our economy slows and China has been in
lockdown for a month.
We just went under 5$ for the first time in a year. Hardly worth celebrating. Meanwhile as China reopens most analysts expect the
trend down to reverse.
On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 8:11:08 PM UTC-5, ScottW wrote:revive it in the next Congress.
On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 12:01:08 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 1:51:32 PM UTC-5, ScottW wrote:
Manchin may have gotten his first taste of what this average rank-and-file status will be like after his long sought-after permitting bill was excluded from the National Defense Authorization Act, likely killing the legislation unless lawmakers
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) initially cut a deal with Manchin to include the energy-permitting legislation in the annual government funding bill in exchange for his support of the Inflation Reduction Act.
So Joe....switch parties.
You can be the 50th vote once again....and f' these back stabbing lying bastards all at the same time.
OH BS. I'm so tired of that line. If dems wanted it in...republicans weren't going to shut down gov't over it.ScottWManchin is not a Republican at heart. ANd the Rep's helped torpedo his pet energy project.
But they didn't push their caucus thereby giving the appearance of republicans having a meaningful say in it.
And they stupidly didn't give it to Joe and take credit for it. Nice job Mitch....but it doesn't make Reps
have any real responsibility for the outcome. It was theater.
If Joe had gotten R support (and it's really hard to understand why they opposed beyond
petty F Joe Manchin for caving earlier) it still wouldn't have made it in cuz dems weren't ever going to let it in.
Dems made the promise and they didn't keep it. All the R's did was act stupid and petty to give them some cover for it.
ScottWAnd you think that will endear Manchin and make him a Republican?
On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 11:23:56 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:revive it in the next Congress.
On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 8:11:08 PM UTC-5, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 12:01:08 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 1:51:32 PM UTC-5, ScottW wrote:
Manchin may have gotten his first taste of what this average rank-and-file status will be like after his long sought-after permitting bill was excluded from the National Defense Authorization Act, likely killing the legislation unless lawmakers
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) initially cut a deal with Manchin to include the energy-permitting legislation in the annual government funding bill in exchange for his support of the Inflation Reduction Act.
So Joe....switch parties.
You can be the 50th vote once again....and f' these back stabbing lying bastards all at the same time.
OH BS. I'm so tired of that line. If dems wanted it in...republicans weren't going to shut down gov't over it.ScottWManchin is not a Republican at heart. ANd the Rep's helped torpedo his pet energy project.
But they didn't push their caucus thereby giving the appearance of republicans having a meaningful say in it.
And they stupidly didn't give it to Joe and take credit for it. Nice job Mitch....but it doesn't make Reps
have any real responsibility for the outcome. It was theater.
If Joe had gotten R support (and it's really hard to understand why they opposed beyond
petty F Joe Manchin for caving earlier) it still wouldn't have made it in
cuz dems weren't ever going to let it in.
Dems made the promise and they didn't keep it. All the R's did was act stupid and petty to give them some cover for it.
No, but the responsibility for the outcome would have been a lot clearer.ScottWAnd you think that will endear Manchin and make him a Republican?
Maybe Joe will go independent like Kirsten.
ScottW
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