• Re: 283 aliens here

    From In the Name of Jesus@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Wed May 14 12:43:38 2025
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    On 14/05/2025 9:38 am, David Dalton wrote:
    As I state on the "Waning Clamshell/another reset to pre-judging”
    thread on alt.religion.druid, there are now 283 DNA-based aliens
    in my region, which is basically the Earth Moon system but not
    including deep inside the Earth and the Moon (see that thread
    for an exact description).

    If you happen to know one of the 283, please relay this to them.
    I am also hoping they are scanning the Internet for the number 283.

    As I have posted before, there will be a sudden evolution of
    viruses and DNA-based species in my region.

    The aliens are in four species: a two-spirit one, a four-spirit one,
    a gilled (plus air-breathing) one, and a photosynthesizing one.

    Homo sapiens will split into 60 species, five of which will
    get about an extra 200 years lifespan and 55 of which
    will get an extra 100 years. Those five will be Beothuk
    species (which will be my species after evolution),
    Hain, Vico, Gilled, and Photo, which the aliens, along
    with of course many former homo sapiens, will go into.

    How stupid and deluded! Everyone knows there are 284 aliens here. There
    was 285 but he phoned home and was picked up last Thursday.





    In the Name of Jesus

    --
    God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.

    Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
    10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

    Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
    YET sinners, Christ died for us.

    Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
    is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

    Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
    are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

    Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

    "To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

    "If God is not first in everything, He is not first in anything."

    "What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
    God. When you find Him you have found the author."

    "All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
    God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
    sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

    "Compromise will condemn you."

    "There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

    "My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

    "You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
    know that?"

    "The way of truth is the testimony of life."

    "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
    where God intends."

    "Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

    "You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
    live, by faith."

    "It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

    "Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
    ahead."

    "You cannot be free, and free indeed, with guilt in your heart."

    "Priority is everything."

    "The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

    "There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
    it or to place it where it truly belongs."

    "An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

    "Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
    an ignorant straw man."

    "Wait, rest, be still, and know."

    "No man can wash his own hands!!!"

    "I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
    and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

    "The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found."

    "The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

    "Man is not the centre of being."

    "Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

    "And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

    "Man has no greater idol than his own will."

    "Where is God hiding? He isn't."

    "If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

    "You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
    willingness to believe."

    "Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
    and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

    "The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
    full of hope."

    "The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not so that a book could pass through it for a sinner to play God."

    "A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

    "No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
    is the love of God."

    "The definition of an atheist: a man full of bluster and bullshit in his meaninglessness pretending he is the meaning of life."

    "Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
    still according to my power," says the Lord.

    "What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
    order to explain the existence of existence."

    "Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

    "Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
     What a gift in a fallen world!"

    "Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

    "Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
    that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
    the glory of God"

    "God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
    isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
    road."

    "It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
    and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
    punished; it is what you are left with."

    "Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
    birth it in a man."

    "The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is self-righteousness."

    "A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

    "A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
    The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

    "It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

    "The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

    "There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

    "There is no such thing as random!"

    "You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

    "No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
    you know nothing."

    "You can't learn God; God has to reveal Himself to you."

    "No sinner is sinless in any way."

    "Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

    "What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
    a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

    "God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

    "Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

    "Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
    really are."

    "Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

    "But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
    Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
    know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

    "That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
    light did not ever become darkness."

    "You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your
    daily life to find Him in Person. He's there."

    "What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise."

    God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.

    "It is not in man to love his enemies. And if he tries, he is walking in
    a lie and trying to raise himself up to the level of God."

    "God has to be quiet now; we have our bible. Well, then, who is going to speak?"

    "It is all about the Lord in His glory and whether a man loves Him with
    all for who He is."

    "A son of God became the bible when he was born again because the Holy
    Spirit took up residence in his heart as Lord."

    "The veil of the temple was not rent in twain so that scripture could
    pass as God."

    "It is dreadfully difficult for religious people to repent of all they
    are as they have spent their whole lives reinforcing to themselves that
    they are "good sinners."

    "If you sin against the Lord, you are using Him."

    "The Lord Jesus is a Person, not a book you worship in your own image."

    "There was no greater self-righteous being than Satan and that of his children."

    "All continuing sinners seek their own glory!"

    "Before a man can kneel before God's throne, he must first walk away
    from the one he built for himself."

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  • From Sylvia Else@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Thu May 15 16:57:19 2025
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    On 14-May-25 7:38 am, David Dalton wrote:
    I am also hoping they are scanning the Internet for the number 283.


    Why would they be scanning the Internet for the number of aliens you're
    aware of? How would they even know which number to scan for?

    Sylvia

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 15 08:09:53 2025
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    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written, rec.arts.sf.misc

    Two Hundred Eighty-Three card-carrying aliens in the State Department!
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to Andrew W on Thu May 15 20:03:46 2025
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    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written, rec.arts.sf.misc

    In article <1005tds$3cocb$[email protected]>, Andrew W <[email protected]> wrote: >Vaxes? How did that become the topic?

    If it's not 36 bits, you're not playing with a full DEC.
    --scott

    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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  • From Andrew W@21:1/5 to JTEM on Fri May 16 21:36:47 2025
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    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written, rec.arts.sf.misc

    "JTEM" wrote in message news:1006jtj$3k5vh$[email protected]...

    On 5/15/25 7:18 PM, Andrew W wrote:
    "JTEM" wrote in message news:1003u8e$2vgag$[email protected]...

    That's called an "Argument from ignorance."

    "We don't know so, they can do it!"

    The top levels of our governments and military do know.

    Thank goodness for your ESP!


    No, years of research.



    Seeing how you can read their minds, why don't you just tell
    us where these aliens are hiding?


    Mainly in mountainous areas.



    The unspoken lines in this story is how long these aliens
    have been here,

    Hundreds of thousands of years.



    and how many people that necessitates being
    in on the secret without it all getting out...


    Only high ranking people in the military and CIA etc. are privy to all the details.



    It's not even good science fiction, really. More like bad
    fan fiction.


    That's how it sounds like to you because you've been conditioned and
    programmed by society.
    Be brave and step away from the mainstream narrative.


    --
    “We own everyone of any significance in the major media.” CIA Director William Colby
    “We’ll know when our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the
    American people believes is false.” CIA Director William Casey

    Definition of an idiot/ignoramus: Someone who gets their information from
    the mainstream media and calls it facts and evidence.

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri May 16 11:26:13 2025
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    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written, rec.arts.sf.misc

    jojo <[email protected]> wrote:

    i believe i was stating the opposite, that if a technological
    civilization exists which is even 100 years more advanced than
    our current state, we would not be able to even comprehend their
    engineered products.

    Hell, we can't even comprehend our own engineered products half the
    time, and nobody will give you a service manual anymore.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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  • From Andrew W@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Sat May 17 09:25:55 2025
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    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written, rec.arts.sf.misc

    "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message news:[email protected]...

    Malte Runz <[email protected]> wrote in >news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 16 May 2025 12:16:47 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message >>>news:[email protected]...

    "Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>news:1005t7r$3cnf6$[email protected]:

    "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...

    "Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>news:1003rh6$2v9s5$[email protected]:



    We didn't find our first exoplanet until the 1990s!


    Um, only according to mainstream scientists who are funded by
    government grants. They have to keep quiet or they lose their
    funding and reputations.




    Why would government cover up a scientific
    discovery of an exoplanet?


    Simple. Because then the world would find out the earth's and
    humanity's true history, and that would lead to them losing power
    and profits.



    Has that happened since the discovery
    of hundreds of exoplanets?


    Discovery of exoplanets is only the first step. They're still not
    telling the people the important details like the earth's true history >>>and who/what else is in this galaxy.

    I take it that you know many of the details. You know Earth's true
    history and a lot of other facts about what goes on in this galaxy.

    But instead of sharing that information, and your sources, with us,
    you'll spend post after post coming up with excuses for not doing it.

    'You're too lazy to do your own research.' 'I can't list all the
    information I've spent decades finding.' 'The deep state has destroyed
    the evidence.' 'You only believe MSM.' 'You're mind controlled by the
    elites.' 'Why do you even need evidence?'

    On and on it goes. We been through this many times before, so unless
    you have some new material, I'll suggest you go fuck yourself. Cool?



    It is depressing there are so many
    conspiracy-behind-everything kooks like
    him. Their lives re so unremarkable and
    enpty they invent a "special knowledge"
    they think elevates them above everyone
    else.


    But scientists never invent new theories to become prominent and get
    government grants?
    Every ten years or so they throw out most of their theories and make up new ones. But you still trust them that only they have the 'facts'.


    --
    “We own everyone of any significance in the major media.” CIA Director William Colby
    “We’ll know when our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the
    American people believes is false.” CIA Director William Casey

    Definition of an idiot/ignoramus: Someone who gets their information from
    the mainstream media and calls it facts and evidence.

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  • From Andrew W@21:1/5 to Malte Runz on Sat May 17 09:17:46 2025
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    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written, rec.arts.sf.misc

    "Malte Runz" wrote in message news:[email protected]...

    On Fri, 16 May 2025 12:16:47 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message >>news:[email protected]...

    "Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>news:1005t7r$3cnf6$[email protected]:

    "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...

    "Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>news:1003rh6$2v9s5$[email protected]:



    We didn't find our first exoplanet until the 1990s!


    Um, only according to mainstream scientists who are funded by
    government grants. They have to keep quiet or they lose their funding >>>>>> and reputations.




    Why would government cover up a scientific
    discovery of an exoplanet?


    Simple. Because then the world would find out the earth's and
    humanity's
    true history, and that would lead to them losing power and profits.



    Has that happened since the discovery
    of hundreds of exoplanets?


    Discovery of exoplanets is only the first step. They're still not telling >>the people the important details like the earth's true history and
    who/what
    else is in this galaxy.

    I take it that you know many of the details. You know Earth's true
    history and a lot of other facts about what goes on in this galaxy.

    But instead of sharing that information, and your sources, with us,
    you'll spend post after post coming up with excuses for not doing it.


    Again you want info from me, because you have none of your own. But you're
    not even truly interested in this subject.
    Why would anyone have to go to the trouble of sharing information with jerks like you who think with their emotions and can only handle following authorities?



    'You're too lazy to do your own research.' 'I can't list all the
    information I've spent decades finding.' 'The deep state has destroyed
    the evidence.' 'You only believe MSM.' 'You're mind controlled by the >elites.' 'Why do you even need evidence?'


    All true.



    On and on it goes. We been through this many times before, so unless
    you have some new material, I'll suggest you go fuck yourself. Cool?


    Our governments never have anything new on this subject but you would never dare tell them that. You have never realised that they are full of excuses
    and peanut offerings. You always just point fingers at ordinary people.


    --
    “We own everyone of any significance in the major media.” CIA Director William Colby
    “We’ll know when our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the
    American people believes is false.” CIA Director William Casey

    Definition of an idiot/ignoramus: Someone who gets their information from
    the mainstream media and calls it facts and evidence.

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat May 17 07:44:21 2025
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    In article <10091ue$6ems$[email protected]>, Titus G <[email protected]> wrote: >On 17/05/25 05:41, Bob Casanova wrote:
    snip

    And since I'm reading this in sci.skeptic, and since this
    crap is different woo-woo crap and has zip to do with claims
    of the paranormal, I'll sign off this thread.

    I'm reading from sf.written where there hasn't been a continuous active
    loony troll for a while and I am temporarily fascinated by the woo-woo
    crap. I think the thread will peter out before the kill file will need
    to be employed.

    I am amused at all the railing against the "mainstream media" in a thread
    about aliens watching television, which is mainstream media at it's finest.

    Gomer Pyle debuted in 1964, sixty-one years ago. This means it is now
    visible to aliens as far away as 6 Ceti. With crap like that on view,
    is it any wonder that they have made no attempt to contact us? And only
    a year later Green Acres came out... just imagine what the folks at
    Sirius and Procyon must think of us.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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  • From Andrew W@21:1/5 to Malte Runz on Sat May 17 21:35:47 2025
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    "Malte Runz" wrote in message news:[email protected]...

    On Sat, 17 May 2025 09:17:46 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    "Malte Runz" wrote in message >>news:[email protected]...

    On Fri, 16 May 2025 12:16:47 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message >>>>news:[email protected]...

    "Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>news:1005t7r$3cnf6$[email protected]:

    "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...

    "Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>>news:1003rh6$2v9s5$[email protected]:



    We didn't find our first exoplanet until the 1990s!


    Um, only according to mainstream scientists who are funded by
    government grants. They have to keep quiet or they lose their
    funding
    and reputations.




    Why would government cover up a scientific
    discovery of an exoplanet?


    Simple. Because then the world would find out the earth's and
    humanity's
    true history, and that would lead to them losing power and profits. >>>>>>


    Has that happened since the discovery
    of hundreds of exoplanets?


    Discovery of exoplanets is only the first step. They're still not >>>>telling
    the people the important details like the earth's true history and >>>>who/what
    else is in this galaxy.

    I take it that you know many of the details. You know Earth's true >>>history and a lot of other facts about what goes on in this galaxy.

    But instead of sharing that information, and your sources, with us, >>>you'll spend post after post coming up with excuses for not doing it.


    Again you want info from me, because you have none of your own. ...

    See below:

    'You're too lazy to do your own research.'

    ... But you're
    not even truly interested in this subject.
    Why would anyone have to go to the trouble of sharing information with >>jerks
    like you who think with their emotions and can only handle following >>authorities?

    See below:

    'You only believe MSM.'


    'You're too lazy to do your own research.' 'I can't list all the >>>information I've spent decades finding.' 'The deep state has destroyed >>>the evidence.' 'You only believe MSM.' 'You're mind controlled by the >>>elites.' 'Why do you even need evidence?'


    All true.

    I know. It's all you ever had and we've hear your excuses a million
    times.


    It's all I ever need with you.
    You see "excuses" but you have nothing to offer.




    On and on it goes. We been through this many times before, so unless
    you have some new material, I'll suggest you go fuck yourself. Cool?


    Our governments never have anything new on this subject but you would
    never
    dare tell them that. You have never realised that they are full of excuses >>and peanut offerings. ...

    See above:

    'The deep state has destroyed the evidence.'


    ... You always just point fingers at ordinary people.

    But you're not ordinary, are you?


    Thinking outside the box and questioning authority, no I guess not.
    In history many who publically questioned the narrative were derided and persecuted. And later they were heralded.


    --
    “We own everyone of any significance in the major media.” CIA Director William Colby
    “We’ll know when our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the
    American people believes is false.” CIA Director William Casey

    Definition of an idiot/ignoramus: Someone who gets their information from
    the mainstream media and calls it facts and evidence.

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Andrew W on Sat May 17 13:08:32 2025
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    "Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1008r6v$5ro1$1@dont-
    email.me:

    "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message news:[email protected]...

    "Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1008g4q$8q9$1@dont-
    email.me:

    "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...

    "Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>news:100676l$3i7jt$[email protected]:

    "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...

    "Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>news:1005t7r$3cnf6$[email protected]:

    "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...

    "Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>>>news:1003rh6$2v9s5$[email protected]:



    We didn't find our first exoplanet until the 1990s!


    Um, only according to mainstream scientists who are funded by >>>>>>>>> government grants. They have to keep quiet or they lose their >>>>>>>>> funding and reputations.




    Why would government cover up a scientific
    discovery of an exoplanet?


    Simple. Because then the world would find out the earth's and
    humanity's true history, and that would lead to them losing power >>>>>>> and profits.



    Has that happened since the discovery
    of hundreds of exoplanets?


    Discovery of exoplanets is only the first step. They're still not
    telling the people the important details like the earth's true
    history
    and who/what else is in this galaxy.


    OK, it is a slow news day,
    let's explore that first one.

    What is Earth's "true history"
    that "they" are not telling us?


    You will learn that when you're ready, if you live that long.


    I knew you would run away.


    Yes every smart person runs away from dumb jerks.


    "....important details like the earth's
    true history"

    Still waiting.

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  • From Andrew W@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Sun May 18 21:50:28 2025
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    "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message news:[email protected]...

    "Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in news:100b5fq$kdrl$[email protected]:

    "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...

    "Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>news:10098uc$7vri$[email protected]:




    A lot of facts some scientists declared in the past were not facts in
    the first place. And a lot of present ones will not be in the future.


    You make that sound like a negative.


    It sounds like you're totally entranced by popular science.




    Is there another kind?


    Yes. I'm sure you're old enough to figure it out for yourself.


    --
    “We own everyone of any significance in the major media.” CIA Director William Colby
    “We’ll know when our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the
    American people believes is false.” CIA Director William Casey

    Definition of an idiot/ignoramus: Someone who gets their information from
    the mainstream media and calls it facts and evidence.

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  • From Andrew W@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Sun May 18 21:47:47 2025
    XPost: alt.paranormal, sci.skeptic, alt.atheism
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written, rec.arts.sf.misc

    "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message news:[email protected]...

    "Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:100b37l$jvfs$[email protected]:

    "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...

    "Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>news:1008q7s$1rnm$[email protected]:

    "jojo" wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...

    JTEM wrote:
    On 5/16/25 11:15 AM, jojo wrote:

    sooo... aliens are a theoretical construct??

    It seems implausible that you could fail so miserably at
    discerning the context. I have to assume that you suffer
    from a narcissistic personality disorder, at the very
    least, and are thus compelled to obfuscate.


    And there's a lot of that that goes on in these groups.



    To anyone else: The claim is that aliens are here, present
    in our solar system, not merely existing.


    okay, super. so its a claim, and not something either theoretically >>>>>possible nor probable? right?


    Only if you look at mainstream media, mainstream science and
    governments and nothing else.


    What is "non-mainstream" science?

    Creation science?


    No


    Christian science?


    Same thing.


    Metaphysical science?


    You are clueless. It's any science that's not suppressed by
    governments and certain celebrity scientists.



    "Science is being suppressed!"

    "Really? What science?"

    "I can't show you because it is being suppressed!"


    You've had all your life to see what's happening in this world. You must be some kind of zombie.


    --
    “We own everyone of any significance in the major media.” CIA Director William Colby
    “We’ll know when our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the
    American people believes is false.” CIA Director William Casey

    Definition of an idiot/ignoramus: Someone who gets their information from
    the mainstream media and calls it facts and evidence.

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  • From Andrew W@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Sun May 18 21:49:17 2025
    XPost: alt.paranormal, sci.skeptic, alt.atheism
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written, rec.arts.sf.misc

    "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message news:[email protected]...

    "Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in news:100b3e4$k17q$1@dont-
    email.me:

    "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...

    "Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1008r6v$5ro1$1@dont- >>>email.me:

    "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...

    "Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1008g4q$8q9$1@dont- >>>email.me:

    "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...

    "Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>>news:100676l$3i7jt$[email protected]:

    "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...

    "Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>>>>news:1005t7r$3cnf6$[email protected]:

    "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...

    "Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>news:1003rh6$2v9s5$[email protected]:



    We didn't find our first exoplanet until the 1990s!


    Um, only according to mainstream scientists who are funded by >>>>>>>>>>>> government grants. They have to keep quiet or they lose their >>>>>>>>>>>> funding and reputations.




    Why would government cover up a scientific
    discovery of an exoplanet?


    Simple. Because then the world would find out the earth's and >>>>>>>>>> humanity's true history, and that would lead to them losing
    power
    and profits.



    Has that happened since the discovery
    of hundreds of exoplanets?


    Discovery of exoplanets is only the first step. They're still not >>>>>>>> telling the people the important details like the earth's true >>>>>history
    and who/what else is in this galaxy.


    OK, it is a slow news day,
    let's explore that first one.

    What is Earth's "true history"
    that "they" are not telling us?


    You will learn that when you're ready, if you live that long.


    I knew you would run away.


    Yes every smart person runs away from dumb jerks.


    "....important details like the earth's
    true history"

    Still waiting.


    Why do you want to know that?


    Another day, another claim that
    Andrew runs away from.


    And how many of my questions have you run away from?
    You're just a propagandist and authority follower.


    --
    “We own everyone of any significance in the major media.” CIA Director William Colby
    “We’ll know when our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the
    American people believes is false.” CIA Director William Casey

    Definition of an idiot/ignoramus: Someone who gets their information from
    the mainstream media and calls it facts and evidence.

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  • From Malte Runz@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 19 12:52:17 2025
    XPost: alt.paranormal, sci.skeptic, alt.atheism
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written, rec.arts.sf.misc

    On Mon, 19 May 2025 12:52:41 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    "Malte Runz" wrote in message >news:[email protected]...

    On Sat, 17 May 2025 21:35:47 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    "Malte Runz" wrote in message >>>news:[email protected]...
    (snip)

    But you're not ordinary, are you?


    Thinking outside the box and questioning authority, no I guess not.


    Claiming to be 'Thinking outside the box' is your way of saying 'I
    don't need evidence to believe'.


    In history many who publically questioned the narrative were derided and >>>persecuted. And later they were heralded.


    I think you follow your emotions and authorities more than actual evidence.

    There is no "actual evidence". According to you, as per last year or
    so, photos and videos can be faked, people can, and do, lie about
    their experiences, and the deep state keeps all the physical evidence
    hidden from the public. What's left?



    Because their ideas were eventually properly researched, verified and
    peer reviewed. Your claims about space aliens haven't been through
    that process, and until they have, you and your soul mates will be
    treated as kooks.


    Aliens can't be put through that process. ...

    How convenient!

    ... It comes down to people's
    experiences.

    It comes down to whether one believes the anecdotal evidence or not.
    You do, I don't.

    --
    Malte Runz

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  • From Andrew W@21:1/5 to Malte Runz on Mon May 19 22:06:04 2025
    XPost: alt.paranormal, sci.skeptic, alt.atheism
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written, rec.arts.sf.misc

    "Malte Runz" wrote in message news:[email protected]...

    On Mon, 19 May 2025 12:52:41 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    "Malte Runz" wrote in message >>news:[email protected]...

    On Sat, 17 May 2025 21:35:47 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    "Malte Runz" wrote in message >>>>news:[email protected]...
    (snip)

    But you're not ordinary, are you?


    Thinking outside the box and questioning authority, no I guess not.


    Claiming to be 'Thinking outside the box' is your way of saying 'I
    don't need evidence to believe'.


    In history many who publically questioned the narrative were derided and >>>>persecuted. And later they were heralded.


    I think you follow your emotions and authorities more than actual
    evidence.

    There is no "actual evidence".


    Yes there is but you've never looked for any. You just listen to the public jerks offs and CIA and believe everything they say.



    According to you, as per last year or
    so, photos and videos can be faked, people can, and do, lie about
    their experiences,


    Yeah and governments and some scientists lie frequently, but that's news for you.



    and the deep state keeps all the physical evidence
    hidden from the public. What's left?


    What's left is your action to find out the truth. There's decades of
    research on these phenomena. But you're not interested, but you still want
    to mouth off and be the smart ass.




    Because their ideas were eventually properly researched, verified and >>>peer reviewed. Your claims about space aliens haven't been through
    that process, and until they have, you and your soul mates will be >>>treated as kooks.


    Aliens can't be put through that process. ...

    How convenient!


    And convenience is all you look for.



    ... It comes down to people's
    experiences.

    It comes down to whether one believes the anecdotal evidence or not.
    You do, I don't.


    It's not just about 'anecdotal evidence' and nothing else. There's a lot
    more to it, but you never do any research to determine what happened in the hundreds of cases.


    --
    “We own everyone of any significance in the major media.” CIA Director William Colby
    “We’ll know when our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the
    American people believes is false.” CIA Director William Casey

    Definition of an idiot/ignoramus: Someone who gets their information from
    the mainstream media and calls it facts and evidence.

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