• "We Asked Too Much Of The Audience": Disney Exec Offers Excuse For "Lig

    From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 28 04:30:47 2023
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    One Disney executive is reflecting on what a flop the �Toy Story� spinoff �Lightyear� was for the company, concluding the issue was the audience not understanding what they were trying to do.

    �We�ve done a lot of soul-searching about that because we all love the movie. We love the characters and the premise. I think probably what we�ve ended on
    in terms of what went wrong is that we asked too much of the audience,�
    Pixar�s chief creative officer Peter Docter told The Wrap.

    �When they hear Buzz, they�re like, great, where�s Mr. Potato Head and Woody and Rex? And then we drop them into this science fiction film that they�re like, What?� the filmmaker continued. �Even if they�ve read the material in press, it was just a little too distant, both in concept, and I think in the way that characters were drawn, that they were portrayed. It was much more of
    a science fiction.�

    Docter went on to describe the �Toy Story� characters as �much broader,� saying, �I think there was a disconnect between what people wanted/expected
    and what we were giving to them.�

    The 2022 animated film earned a paltry $226.4 million against a $200 million budget, meaning it likely lost money after factoring in marketing and other expenses.

    �Lightyear� caused a controversy leading up to its release due to the
    inclusion of a same-sex kiss which was initially edited out, then reinstated
    in response to Florida�s Parental Rights in Education Bill, dubbed the �Don�t Say Gay Bill� by several media outlets and leftists.

    There was also some pushback to Chris Evans replacing Tim Allen as the voice
    of Buzz Lightyear. He was in favor of the same-sex kiss scene staying in the movie, saying those who disagreed were �idiots.�

    �Every time there�s been social advancement as we wake up, the American
    story, the human story is one of constant social awakening and growth and that�s what makes us good,� Evans told Reuters during an interview.

    �Disney put a line in the sand saying, we�re putting this [kiss] back in, but also, we�re not going to remove it for any other territories, in these places that would have a problem with it.� The actor said, adding the kiss scene was �nice, and it�s wonderful, it makes me happy.�

    �It�s tough to not be a little frustrated that it even has to be a topic of discussion,� Evans added. �That it is this kind of �news.� The goal is that
    we can get to a point where it is the norm, and that this doesn�t have to be some uncharted waters, that eventually this is just the way it is. That representation across the board is how we make films.�

    Even critics in favor of or neutral toward the controversial kiss scene said the movie had multiple plot holes and strayed too far from the original �Toy Story� storylines for audiences to embrace it the same way as other installments of the franchise.

    Disney just announced that they�ll be making �Toy Story 5� in addition to several other additions to popular franchises.

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Tue Feb 28 08:00:50 2023
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    Ubiquitous <[email protected]> wrote:
    One Disney executive is reflecting on what a flop the “Toy Story” spinoff “Lightyear” was for the company, concluding the issue was the audience not understanding what they were trying to do.

    They were trying to punish Tim Allen and reward Chris Evans. I think we
    pretty much got it which is why we didn’t go anywhere near the movie.



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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Tue Feb 28 10:13:06 2023
    XPost: rec.arts.tv, alt.disney, rec.arts.movies.past-films

    In article <ttkub0$3jtih$[email protected]>,
    Ubiquitous <[email protected]> wrote:

    One Disney executive is reflecting on what a flop the TOY STORY spinoff LIGHTYEAR was for the company, concluding the issue was the audience not understanding what they were trying to do.

    "We've done a lot of soul-searching about that because we all love the movie. We love the characters and the premise. I think probably what we've ended on in terms of what went wrong is that we asked too much of the audience," Pixar's chief creative officer Peter Docter told The Wrap.

    "When they hear Buzz, they're like, great, where's Mr. Potato Head and Woody and Rex? And then we drop them into this science fiction film that they're like, What?" the filmmaker continued. "Even if they've read the material in press, it was just a little too distant, both in concept, and I think in the way that characters were drawn, that they were portrayed. It was much more of a science fiction."

    Docter went on to describe the TOY STORY characters as "much broader", saying, "I think there was a disconnect between what people wanted/expected and what we were giving to them."

    The 2022 animated film earned a paltry $226.4 million against a $200 million budget, meaning it likely lost money after factoring in marketing and other expenses.

    LIGHTYEAR caused a controversy leading up to its release due to the inclusion of a same-sex kiss which was initially edited out, then reinstated in response to Florida's Parental Rights in Education Bill, dubbed the "Don't Say Gay Bill" by several media outlets and leftists.

    There was also some pushback to Chris Evans replacing Tim Allen as the voice of Buzz Lightyear. He was in favor of the same-sex kiss scene staying in the movie, saying those who disagreed were "idiots".

    "Every time there's been social advancement as we wake up, the American story, the human story is one of constant social awakening and growth and that's what makes us good," Evans told Reuters during an interview.

    "Disney put a line in the sand saying, we're putting this [kiss] back in, but also, we're not going to remove it for any other territories, in these places that would have a problem with it." The actor said, adding the kiss scene was "nice, and it's wonderful, it makes me happy."

    "It's tough to not be a little frustrated that it even has to be a topic of discussion," Evans added. "That it is this kind of 'news'. The goal is that we can get to a point where it is the norm, and that this doesn't have to be some uncharted waters, that eventually this is just the way it is. That representation across the board is how we make films."

    Even critics in favor of or neutral toward the controversial kiss scene said the movie had multiple plot holes and strayed too far from the original TOY STORY storylines for audiences to embrace it the same way as other installments of the franchise.

    Disney just announced that they'll be making TOY STORY 5 in addition to several other additions to popular franchises.

    And it will also be defiantly full of gay propaganda, and they'll stand
    around like idiots scratching their heads when it flops as well.

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 28 14:22:02 2023
    XPost: rec.arts.tv, alt.disney, rec.arts.movies.past-films

    On 2/28/2023 1:13 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <ttkub0$3jtih$[email protected]>,
    Ubiquitous <[email protected]> wrote:

    One Disney executive is reflecting on what a flop the TOY STORY spinoff
    LIGHTYEAR was for the company, concluding the issue was the audience not
    understanding what they were trying to do.

    "We've done a lot of soul-searching about that because we all love the movie.
    We love the characters and the premise. I think probably what we've ended on >> in terms of what went wrong is that we asked too much of the audience,"
    Pixar's chief creative officer Peter Docter told The Wrap.

    "When they hear Buzz, they're like, great, where's Mr. Potato Head and Woody >> and Rex? And then we drop them into this science fiction film that they're >> like, What?" the filmmaker continued. "Even if they've read the material in >> press, it was just a little too distant, both in concept, and I think in the >> way that characters were drawn, that they were portrayed. It was much more of
    a science fiction."

    Docter went on to describe the TOY STORY characters as "much broader",
    saying, "I think there was a disconnect between what people wanted/expected >> and what we were giving to them."

    The 2022 animated film earned a paltry $226.4 million against a $200 million >> budget, meaning it likely lost money after factoring in marketing and other >> expenses.

    LIGHTYEAR caused a controversy leading up to its release due to the inclusion
    of a same-sex kiss which was initially edited out, then reinstated in
    response to Florida's Parental Rights in Education Bill, dubbed the "Don't >> Say Gay Bill" by several media outlets and leftists.

    There was also some pushback to Chris Evans replacing Tim Allen as the voice >> of Buzz Lightyear. He was in favor of the same-sex kiss scene staying in the >> movie, saying those who disagreed were "idiots".

    "Every time there's been social advancement as we wake up, the American
    story, the human story is one of constant social awakening and growth and
    that's what makes us good," Evans told Reuters during an interview.

    "Disney put a line in the sand saying, we're putting this [kiss] back in, but
    also, we're not going to remove it for any other territories, in these places
    that would have a problem with it." The actor said, adding the kiss scene was
    "nice, and it's wonderful, it makes me happy."

    "It's tough to not be a little frustrated that it even has to be a topic of >> discussion," Evans added. "That it is this kind of 'news'. The goal is that >> we can get to a point where it is the norm, and that this doesn't have to be >> some uncharted waters, that eventually this is just the way it is. That
    representation across the board is how we make films."

    Even critics in favor of or neutral toward the controversial kiss scene said >> the movie had multiple plot holes and strayed too far from the original TOY >> STORY storylines for audiences to embrace it the same way as other
    installments of the franchise.

    Disney just announced that they'll be making TOY STORY 5 in addition to
    several other additions to popular franchises.

    And it will also be defiantly full of gay propaganda, and they'll stand around like idiots scratching their heads when it flops as well.

    What are you calling "gay propaganda"?

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to moviePig on Tue Feb 28 20:56:35 2023
    XPost: alt.disney, rec.arts.movies.past-films, rec.arts.tv

    On Feb 28, 2023 at 11:22:02 AM PST, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2/28/2023 1:13 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <ttkub0$3jtih$[email protected]>,
    Ubiquitous <[email protected]> wrote:

    One Disney executive is reflecting on what a flop the TOY STORY spinoff >>> LIGHTYEAR was for the company, concluding the issue was the audience not >>> understanding what they were trying to do.

    "We've done a lot of soul-searching about that because we all love the
    movie.
    We love the characters and the premise. I think probably what we've ended on
    in terms of what went wrong is that we asked too much of the audience," >>> Pixar's chief creative officer Peter Docter told The Wrap.

    "When they hear Buzz, they're like, great, where's Mr. Potato Head and Woody
    and Rex? And then we drop them into this science fiction film that they're >>> like, What?" the filmmaker continued. "Even if they've read the material in
    press, it was just a little too distant, both in concept, and I think in the
    way that characters were drawn, that they were portrayed. It was much more >>> of
    a science fiction."

    Docter went on to describe the TOY STORY characters as "much broader",
    saying, "I think there was a disconnect between what people wanted/expected
    and what we were giving to them."

    The 2022 animated film earned a paltry $226.4 million against a $200 million
    budget, meaning it likely lost money after factoring in marketing and other
    expenses.

    LIGHTYEAR caused a controversy leading up to its release due to the
    inclusion
    of a same-sex kiss which was initially edited out, then reinstated in
    response to Florida's Parental Rights in Education Bill, dubbed the "Don't >>> Say Gay Bill" by several media outlets and leftists.

    There was also some pushback to Chris Evans replacing Tim Allen as the voice
    of Buzz Lightyear. He was in favor of the same-sex kiss scene staying in the
    movie, saying those who disagreed were "idiots".

    "Every time there's been social advancement as we wake up, the American >>> story, the human story is one of constant social awakening and growth and >>> that's what makes us good," Evans told Reuters during an interview.

    "Disney put a line in the sand saying, we're putting this [kiss] back in, >>> but
    also, we're not going to remove it for any other territories, in these
    places
    that would have a problem with it." The actor said, adding the kiss scene >>> was
    "nice, and it's wonderful, it makes me happy."

    "It's tough to not be a little frustrated that it even has to be a topic of
    discussion," Evans added. "That it is this kind of 'news'. The goal is that
    we can get to a point where it is the norm, and that this doesn't have to be
    some uncharted waters, that eventually this is just the way it is. That >>> representation across the board is how we make films."

    Even critics in favor of or neutral toward the controversial kiss scene said
    the movie had multiple plot holes and strayed too far from the original TOY
    STORY storylines for audiences to embrace it the same way as other
    installments of the franchise.

    Disney just announced that they'll be making TOY STORY 5 in addition to >>> several other additions to popular franchises.

    And it will also be defiantly full of gay propaganda, and they'll stand
    around like idiots scratching their heads when it flops as well.

    What are you calling "gay propaganda"?

    Anything that's inserted into the movie for purposes of making a 'social justice' statement.

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  • From David Johnston@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 28 14:17:51 2023
    XPost: rec.arts.tv, alt.disney, rec.arts.movies.past-films

    On 2023-02-28 8:00 a.m., anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <[email protected]> wrote:
    One Disney executive is reflecting on what a flop the “Toy Story” spinoff >> “Lightyear” was for the company, concluding the issue was the audience not >> understanding what they were trying to do.

    They were trying to punish Tim Allen and reward Chris Evans. I think we pretty much got it which is why we didn’t go anywhere near the movie.

    I have no idea what you are talking about. I wasn't interested because
    I saw the ads and it looked boring.

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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 28 16:26:03 2023
    XPost: rec.arts.tv, alt.disney, rec.arts.movies.past-films

    On 2/28/23 12:13 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <ttkub0$3jtih$[email protected]>,
    Ubiquitous <[email protected]> wrote:

    One Disney executive is reflecting on what a flop the TOY STORY spinoff
    LIGHTYEAR was for the company, concluding the issue was the audience not
    understanding what they were trying to do.

    "We've done a lot of soul-searching about that because we all love the movie.
    We love the characters and the premise. I think probably what we've ended on >> in terms of what went wrong is that we asked too much of the audience,"
    Pixar's chief creative officer Peter Docter told The Wrap.

    "When they hear Buzz, they're like, great, where's Mr. Potato Head and Woody >> and Rex? And then we drop them into this science fiction film that they're >> like, What?" the filmmaker continued. "Even if they've read the material in >> press, it was just a little too distant, both in concept, and I think in the >> way that characters were drawn, that they were portrayed. It was much more of
    a science fiction."

    Docter went on to describe the TOY STORY characters as "much broader",
    saying, "I think there was a disconnect between what people wanted/expected >> and what we were giving to them."

    The 2022 animated film earned a paltry $226.4 million against a $200 million >> budget, meaning it likely lost money after factoring in marketing and other >> expenses.

    LIGHTYEAR caused a controversy leading up to its release due to the inclusion
    of a same-sex kiss which was initially edited out, then reinstated in
    response to Florida's Parental Rights in Education Bill, dubbed the "Don't >> Say Gay Bill" by several media outlets and leftists.

    There was also some pushback to Chris Evans replacing Tim Allen as the voice >> of Buzz Lightyear. He was in favor of the same-sex kiss scene staying in the >> movie, saying those who disagreed were "idiots".

    "Every time there's been social advancement as we wake up, the American
    story, the human story is one of constant social awakening and growth and
    that's what makes us good," Evans told Reuters during an interview.

    "Disney put a line in the sand saying, we're putting this [kiss] back in, but
    also, we're not going to remove it for any other territories, in these places
    that would have a problem with it." The actor said, adding the kiss scene was
    "nice, and it's wonderful, it makes me happy."

    "It's tough to not be a little frustrated that it even has to be a topic of >> discussion," Evans added. "That it is this kind of 'news'. The goal is that >> we can get to a point where it is the norm, and that this doesn't have to be >> some uncharted waters, that eventually this is just the way it is. That
    representation across the board is how we make films."

    Even critics in favor of or neutral toward the controversial kiss scene said >> the movie had multiple plot holes and strayed too far from the original TOY >> STORY storylines for audiences to embrace it the same way as other
    installments of the franchise.

    Disney just announced that they'll be making TOY STORY 5 in addition to
    several other additions to popular franchises.

    And it will also be defiantly full of gay propaganda, and they'll stand around like idiots scratching their heads when it flops as well.


    What will Meatball Ron say?

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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to moviePig on Tue Feb 28 16:29:16 2023
    XPost: rec.arts.tv, alt.disney, rec.arts.movies.past-films

    On 2/28/23 1:22 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 2/28/2023 1:13 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <ttkub0$3jtih$[email protected]>,
      Ubiquitous <[email protected]> wrote:

    One Disney executive is reflecting on what a flop the TOY STORY spinoff
    LIGHTYEAR was for the company, concluding the issue was the audience not >>> understanding what they were trying to do.

    "We've done a lot of soul-searching about that because we all love
    the movie.
    We love the characters and the premise. I think probably what we've
    ended on
    in terms of what went wrong is that we asked too much of the audience,"
    Pixar's chief creative officer Peter Docter told The Wrap.

    "When they hear Buzz, they're like, great, where's Mr. Potato Head
    and Woody
    and Rex? And then we drop them into this science fiction film that
    they're
    like, What?" the filmmaker continued. "Even if they've read the
    material in
    press, it was just a little too distant, both in concept, and I think
    in the
    way that characters were drawn, that they were portrayed. It was much
    more of
    a science fiction."

    Docter went on to describe the TOY STORY characters as "much broader",
    saying, "I think there was a disconnect between what people
    wanted/expected
    and what we were giving to them."

    The 2022 animated film earned a paltry $226.4 million against a $200
    million
    budget, meaning it likely lost money after factoring in marketing and
    other
    expenses.

    LIGHTYEAR caused a controversy leading up to its release due to the
    inclusion
    of a same-sex kiss which was initially edited out, then reinstated in
    response to Florida's Parental Rights in Education Bill, dubbed the
    "Don't
    Say Gay Bill" by several media outlets and leftists.

    There was also some pushback to Chris Evans replacing Tim Allen as
    the voice
    of Buzz Lightyear. He was in favor of the same-sex kiss scene staying
    in the
    movie, saying those who disagreed were "idiots".

    "Every time there's been social advancement as we wake up, the American
    story, the human story is one of constant social awakening and growth
    and
    that's what makes us good," Evans told Reuters during an interview.

    "Disney put a line in the sand saying, we're putting this [kiss] back
    in, but
    also, we're not going to remove it for any other territories, in
    these places
    that would have a problem with it." The actor said, adding the kiss
    scene was
    "nice, and it's wonderful, it makes me happy."

    "It's tough to not be a little frustrated that it even has to be a
    topic of
    discussion," Evans added. "That it is this kind of 'news'. The goal
    is that
    we can get to a point where it is the norm, and that this doesn't
    have to be
    some uncharted waters, that eventually this is just the way it is. That
    representation across the board is how we make films."

    Even critics in favor of or neutral toward the controversial kiss
    scene said
    the movie had multiple plot holes and strayed too far from the
    original TOY
    STORY storylines for audiences to embrace it the same way as other
    installments of the franchise.

    Disney just announced that they'll be making TOY STORY 5 in addition to
    several other additions to popular franchises.

    And it will also be defiantly full of gay propaganda, and they'll stand
    around like idiots scratching their heads when it flops as well.

    What are you calling "gay propaganda"?


    Whatever the Oath Keepers say it is.

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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 28 16:31:10 2023
    XPost: alt.disney, rec.arts.movies.past-films, rec.arts.tv

    On 2/28/23 2:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Feb 28, 2023 at 11:22:02 AM PST, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2/28/2023 1:13 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <ttkub0$3jtih$[email protected]>,
    Ubiquitous <[email protected]> wrote:

    One Disney executive is reflecting on what a flop the TOY STORY spinoff >>>> LIGHTYEAR was for the company, concluding the issue was the audience not >>>> understanding what they were trying to do.

    "We've done a lot of soul-searching about that because we all love the >>>> movie.
    We love the characters and the premise. I think probably what we've ended on
    in terms of what went wrong is that we asked too much of the audience," >>>> Pixar's chief creative officer Peter Docter told The Wrap.

    "When they hear Buzz, they're like, great, where's Mr. Potato Head and Woody
    and Rex? And then we drop them into this science fiction film that they're
    like, What?" the filmmaker continued. "Even if they've read the material in
    press, it was just a little too distant, both in concept, and I think in the
    way that characters were drawn, that they were portrayed. It was much more
    of
    a science fiction."

    Docter went on to describe the TOY STORY characters as "much broader", >>>> saying, "I think there was a disconnect between what people wanted/expected
    and what we were giving to them."

    The 2022 animated film earned a paltry $226.4 million against a $200 million
    budget, meaning it likely lost money after factoring in marketing and other
    expenses.

    LIGHTYEAR caused a controversy leading up to its release due to the
    inclusion
    of a same-sex kiss which was initially edited out, then reinstated in >>>> response to Florida's Parental Rights in Education Bill, dubbed the "Don't
    Say Gay Bill" by several media outlets and leftists.

    There was also some pushback to Chris Evans replacing Tim Allen as the voice
    of Buzz Lightyear. He was in favor of the same-sex kiss scene staying in the
    movie, saying those who disagreed were "idiots".

    "Every time there's been social advancement as we wake up, the American >>>> story, the human story is one of constant social awakening and growth and
    that's what makes us good," Evans told Reuters during an interview.

    "Disney put a line in the sand saying, we're putting this [kiss] back in,
    but
    also, we're not going to remove it for any other territories, in these >>>> places
    that would have a problem with it." The actor said, adding the kiss scene
    was
    "nice, and it's wonderful, it makes me happy."

    "It's tough to not be a little frustrated that it even has to be a topic of
    discussion," Evans added. "That it is this kind of 'news'. The goal is that
    we can get to a point where it is the norm, and that this doesn't have to be
    some uncharted waters, that eventually this is just the way it is. That >>>> representation across the board is how we make films."

    Even critics in favor of or neutral toward the controversial kiss scene said
    the movie had multiple plot holes and strayed too far from the original TOY
    STORY storylines for audiences to embrace it the same way as other
    installments of the franchise.

    Disney just announced that they'll be making TOY STORY 5 in addition to >>>> several other additions to popular franchises.

    And it will also be defiantly full of gay propaganda, and they'll stand >>> around like idiots scratching their heads when it flops as well.

    What are you calling "gay propaganda"?

    Anything that's inserted into the movie for purposes of making a 'social justice' statement.


    Is that what Meatball Ron said?

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 28 17:48:44 2023
    XPost: alt.disney, rec.arts.movies.past-films, rec.arts.tv

    On 2/28/2023 3:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Feb 28, 2023 at 11:22:02 AM PST, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2/28/2023 1:13 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <ttkub0$3jtih$[email protected]>,
    Ubiquitous <[email protected]> wrote:

    One Disney executive is reflecting on what a flop the TOY STORY spinoff >>>> LIGHTYEAR was for the company, concluding the issue was the audience not >>>> understanding what they were trying to do.

    "We've done a lot of soul-searching about that because we all love the >>>> movie.
    We love the characters and the premise. I think probably what we've ended on
    in terms of what went wrong is that we asked too much of the audience," >>>> Pixar's chief creative officer Peter Docter told The Wrap.

    "When they hear Buzz, they're like, great, where's Mr. Potato Head and Woody
    and Rex? And then we drop them into this science fiction film that they're
    like, What?" the filmmaker continued. "Even if they've read the material in
    press, it was just a little too distant, both in concept, and I think in the
    way that characters were drawn, that they were portrayed. It was much more
    of
    a science fiction."

    Docter went on to describe the TOY STORY characters as "much broader", >>>> saying, "I think there was a disconnect between what people wanted/expected
    and what we were giving to them."

    The 2022 animated film earned a paltry $226.4 million against a $200 million
    budget, meaning it likely lost money after factoring in marketing and other
    expenses.

    LIGHTYEAR caused a controversy leading up to its release due to the
    inclusion
    of a same-sex kiss which was initially edited out, then reinstated in >>>> response to Florida's Parental Rights in Education Bill, dubbed the "Don't
    Say Gay Bill" by several media outlets and leftists.

    There was also some pushback to Chris Evans replacing Tim Allen as the voice
    of Buzz Lightyear. He was in favor of the same-sex kiss scene staying in the
    movie, saying those who disagreed were "idiots".

    "Every time there's been social advancement as we wake up, the American >>>> story, the human story is one of constant social awakening and growth and
    that's what makes us good," Evans told Reuters during an interview.

    "Disney put a line in the sand saying, we're putting this [kiss] back in,
    but
    also, we're not going to remove it for any other territories, in these >>>> places
    that would have a problem with it." The actor said, adding the kiss scene
    was
    "nice, and it's wonderful, it makes me happy."

    "It's tough to not be a little frustrated that it even has to be a topic of
    discussion," Evans added. "That it is this kind of 'news'. The goal is that
    we can get to a point where it is the norm, and that this doesn't have to be
    some uncharted waters, that eventually this is just the way it is. That >>>> representation across the board is how we make films."

    Even critics in favor of or neutral toward the controversial kiss scene said
    the movie had multiple plot holes and strayed too far from the original TOY
    STORY storylines for audiences to embrace it the same way as other
    installments of the franchise.

    Disney just announced that they'll be making TOY STORY 5 in addition to >>>> several other additions to popular franchises.

    And it will also be defiantly full of gay propaganda, and they'll stand >>> around like idiots scratching their heads when it flops as well.

    What are you calling "gay propaganda"?

    Anything that's inserted into the movie for purposes of making a 'social justice' statement.

    If you're looking for pop-fiction that doesn't compromise reality with somebody's "ideals" I think you'll find that pickings are slim.

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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to moviePig on Wed Mar 1 03:34:38 2023
    XPost: alt.disney, rec.arts.movies.past-films, rec.arts.tv

    On 2/28/23 4:48 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 2/28/2023 3:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Feb 28, 2023 at 11:22:02 AM PST, "moviePig" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 2/28/2023 1:13 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
      In article <ttkub0$3jtih$[email protected]>,
        Ubiquitous <[email protected]> wrote:
      One Disney executive is reflecting on what a flop the TOY STORY
    spinoff
      LIGHTYEAR was for the company, concluding the issue was the
    audience not
      understanding what they were trying to do.

      "We've done a lot of soul-searching about that because we all
    love the
    movie.
      We love the characters and the premise. I think probably what
    we've ended on
      in terms of what went wrong is that we asked too much of the
    audience,"
      Pixar's chief creative officer Peter Docter told The Wrap.

      "When they hear Buzz, they're like, great, where's Mr. Potato
    Head and Woody
      and Rex? And then we drop them into this science fiction film
    that they're
      like, What?" the filmmaker continued. "Even if they've read the
    material in
      press, it was just a little too distant, both in concept, and I
    think in the
      way that characters were drawn, that they were portrayed. It was
    much more
    of
      a science fiction."

      Docter went on to describe the TOY STORY characters as "much
    broader",
      saying, "I think there was a disconnect between what people
    wanted/expected
      and what we were giving to them."

      The 2022 animated film earned a paltry $226.4 million against a
    $200 million
      budget, meaning it likely lost money after factoring in marketing >>>>> and other
      expenses.

      LIGHTYEAR caused a controversy leading up to its release due to the >>>>> inclusion
      of a same-sex kiss which was initially edited out, then
    reinstated in
      response to Florida's Parental Rights in Education Bill, dubbed
    the "Don't
      Say Gay Bill" by several media outlets and leftists.

      There was also some pushback to Chris Evans replacing Tim Allen
    as the voice
      of Buzz Lightyear. He was in favor of the same-sex kiss scene
    staying in the
      movie, saying those who disagreed were "idiots".

      "Every time there's been social advancement as we wake up, the
    American
      story, the human story is one of constant social awakening and
    growth and
      that's what makes us good," Evans told Reuters during an interview. >>>>>
      "Disney put a line in the sand saying, we're putting this [kiss]
    back in,
    but
      also, we're not going to remove it for any other territories, in
    these
    places
      that would have a problem with it." The actor said, adding the
    kiss scene
    was
      "nice, and it's wonderful, it makes me happy."

      "It's tough to not be a little frustrated that it even has to be
    a topic of
      discussion," Evans added. "That it is this kind of 'news'. The
    goal is that
      we can get to a point where it is the norm, and that this doesn't >>>>> have to be
      some uncharted waters, that eventually this is just the way it
    is. That
      representation across the board is how we make films."

      Even critics in favor of or neutral toward the controversial kiss >>>>> scene said
      the movie had multiple plot holes and strayed too far from the
    original TOY
      STORY storylines for audiences to embrace it the same way as other >>>>>   installments of the franchise.

      Disney just announced that they'll be making TOY STORY 5 in
    addition to
      several other additions to popular franchises.
      And it will also be defiantly full of gay propaganda, and they'll
    stand
      around like idiots scratching their heads when it flops as well.

    What are you calling "gay propaganda"?

    Anything that's inserted into the movie for purposes of making a 'social
    justice' statement.

    If you're looking for pop-fiction that doesn't compromise reality with somebody's "ideals" I think you'll find that pickings are slim.


    Same thing could be said for him trying to use his gray matter.

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