• Shigeru Mizuki's "Hitler"

    From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 23 19:07:14 2017
    Hi Readers and Typers,

    I got this at the San Francisco Public Library-Main from
    the biographical section.
    I had read disparaging reviews and I have to say this does
    not come up to the standard I expected from Mizuki. But this is
    a much less cartoon-like version of the humans involved. It lacks
    some of the venom associated with the Western biographies of the
    subject which I have read. Doubtless because Mizuki did not
    really have any contact with the NAZI side of the Axis during
    WW II nor did the Japanese ever conceive of the Jewish populace
    as a danger to the state. Similarly while he shows the tortured
    bodies of the death camp in end papers he does not explore the
    Holocaust in any detail.

    bliss

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  • From Kenneth M. Lin@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 14 18:26:51 2017
    "Bobbie Sellers" wrote in message news:o8o7th$g4c$[email protected]...

    Hi Readers and Typers,

    I got this at the San Francisco Public Library-Main from
    the biographical section.
    I had read disparaging reviews and I have to say this does
    not come up to the standard I expected from Mizuki. But this is
    a much less cartoon-like version of the humans involved. It lacks
    some of the venom associated with the Western biographies of the
    subject which I have read. Doubtless because Mizuki did not
    really have any contact with the NAZI side of the Axis during
    WW II nor did the Japanese ever conceive of the Jewish populace
    as a danger to the state. Similarly while he shows the tortured
    bodies of the death camp in end papers he does not explore the
    Holocaust in any detail.

    bliss

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    bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com


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    I have a copy of manga biography Mizuki did about a Japanese
    scientist/scholar Minakata Kumagusu:

    https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%8D%97%E6%96%B9%E7%86%8A%E6%A5%A0

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minakata_Kumagusu

    What's interesting is that he told the story from Minakata's pet cat's point
    of view. No ideas whether he really owned a cat at all but very interesting approach.

    Mizuki served during WWII and lost his left arm but he was stationed in
    South Pacific and appears to have missed major combat or witnessed
    atrocities committed by Japanese army.

    As opposed to U.S., where we are involved in world politics and sending
    troops everywhere, Japanese are still very insulated and they often don't
    quite get what's going on outside of their immediately circle. One of
    Fujiko Fujio drew a biography of Chairman Mao in 1970s essentially praising
    him even though Japan was in complete fear of being taken over by communist
    at that time.

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to Kenneth M. Lin on Thu Mar 16 08:45:15 2017
    On 03/14/2017 06:26 PM, Kenneth M. Lin wrote:


    "Bobbie Sellers" wrote in message news:o8o7th$g4c$[email protected]...

    Hi Readers and Typers,

    I got this at the San Francisco Public Library-Main from
    the biographical section.
    I had read disparaging reviews and I have to say this does
    not come up to the standard I expected from Mizuki. But this is
    a much less cartoon-like version of the humans involved. It lacks
    some of the venom associated with the Western biographies of the
    subject which I have read. Doubtless because Mizuki did not
    really have any contact with the NAZI side of the Axis during
    WW II nor did the Japanese ever conceive of the Jewish populace
    as a danger to the state. Similarly while he shows the tortured
    bodies of the death camp in end papers he does not explore the
    Holocaust in any detail.

    bliss

    but Kenneth M. Lin wrote:


    I have a copy of manga biography Mizuki did about a Japanese scientist/scholar Minakata Kumagusu:

    https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%8D%97%E6%96%B9%E7%86%8A%E6%A5%A0

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minakata_Kumagusu

    A great story of an auto-didact who traveled widely
    before it was at all common. I wish I could read it in Japanese.

    What's interesting is that he told the story from Minakata's pet cat's point of view. No ideas whether he really owned a cat at all but very interesting approach.

    Mizuki served during WWII and lost his left arm but he was stationed in South Pacific and
    appears to have missed major combat or witnessed atrocities committed
    by Japanese army.

    Mizuki was fortunate in the regard that he did not deal with the atrocities but learned of them postwar. His own older brother
    did following orders, from a superior officer, murder an American pilot
    which lead to several years in prison for the War Crime after the
    war.
    But I would not agree with the "missing major combat" as
    his various bases or camps came under heavy attack by the Allied
    forces. In addition he was subjected to the brutal discipline of
    the JIA where the rule was that the soldier was beaten by all
    superior petty officers and lower officers, but recieved benefits
    at the behest of the Commander of the forces in question.

    He escaped involvement in suicide attacks by reason of
    a few intelligent superiors and performed a feat of endurance
    in his escape from a doomed action. Needless to say his feat
    of survival, worthy of a modern ranger or seal, was not
    appreciated in a military culture that expected all to die
    for the Emperor.
    He wrote a manga about that too, "Onwards to Our
    Noble Deaths".
    As well as commemorating to Post-Showa Japanese
    the true extent and folly of the Chinese War, the Axis
    alliance, and of course the Pacific War in Showa History
    of Japan. Remember that the Militarily controlled cabinets
    were advised by Hitler that the USA would not fight.

    As opposed to U.S., where we are involved in world politics and sending troops everywhere,

    One of our great mistakes.
    Japanese are still very insulated and they often don't quite get
    what's going on outside of their immediate circle.

    Lots of Americans aided by the inward turning of the media
    are in the same position and have no idea where the involved troops
    are going.

    One of FujikoFujio drew a biography of Chairman Mao in 1970s
    essentially praising him even though Japan was in complete
    fear of being taken over by communist at that time.

    That seems to be the essence of Japanese-ness at times very like the Otaku who think the next episode of their favorite pastime
    is the most important thing in the world. Also the government
    seems to promote this sort of non-involvement as does the historical
    culture.

    bliss

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