political bullshit like this pisses me off, please do not post links like >these again, thank you
On Thu, 8 May 2025 19:56:21 +0300, "Dob" <[email protected]> wrote:
political bullshit like this pisses me off, please do not post links like >these again, thank you
It is Lynn's (or the cartoonist's) fault that Musk has made himself an
object of ridicule.
In article <[email protected]>,
Paul S Person <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Thu, 8 May 2025 19:56:21 +0300, "Dob" <[email protected]> wrote:
political bullshit like this pisses me off, please do not post links like >>> these again, thank you
It is Lynn's (or the cartoonist's) fault that Musk has made himself an
object of ridicule.
Is the sentence above missing a "not"?
On Thu, 8 May 2025 19:56:21 +0300, "Dob" <[email protected]> wrote:
political bullshit like this pisses me off, please do not post links like >>these again, thank you
It is Lynn's (or the cartoonist's) fault that Musk has made himself an
object of ridicule. People who want to be respected behave
respectably.
Posting <https://www.gocomics.com/monty/2025/05/01> is what produced--
Dob's reaction. Apparently, posting a link to a comic strip is now a >political act in some quarters.
On 2025-05-09 16:45:30 +0000, Robert Woodward said:
In article <[email protected]>,
Paul S Person <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Thu, 8 May 2025 19:56:21 +0300, "Dob" <[email protected]> wrote:
political bullshit like this pisses me off, please do not post links like >>>> these again, thank you
It is Lynn's (or the cartoonist's) fault that Musk has made himself an
object of ridicule.
Is the sentence above missing a "not"?
Maybe, or perhaps the first two words need to be swapped and a question
mark added to the end of the sentence. :-)
Muskrat didn't make himself an object of ridicule ... he has *ALWAYS*
been an object of ridicule.
In article <[email protected]>,
Paul S Person <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Thu, 8 May 2025 19:56:21 +0300, "Dob" <[email protected]> wrote:
political bullshit like this pisses me off, please do not post links like >> >these again, thank you
It is Lynn's (or the cartoonist's) fault that Musk has made himself an
object of ridicule.
Is the sentence above missing a "not"?
On 2025-05-09 16:45:30 +0000, Robert Woodward said:
In article <[email protected]>,
Paul S Person <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Thu, 8 May 2025 19:56:21 +0300, "Dob" <[email protected]> wrote:
political bullshit like this pisses me off, please do not post links like >>> these again, thank you
It is Lynn's (or the cartoonist's) fault that Musk has made himself an
object of ridicule.
Is the sentence above missing a "not"?
Maybe, or perhaps the first two words need to be swapped and a question
mark added to the end of the sentence. :-)
Muskrat didn't make himself an object of ridicule ... he has *ALWAYS*
been an object of ridicule.
In article <vvm0je$338te$[email protected]>,
Your Name <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-05-09 16:45:30 +0000, Robert Woodward said:
In article <[email protected]>,
Paul S Person <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Thu, 8 May 2025 19:56:21 +0300, "Dob" <[email protected]> wrote:
political bullshit like this pisses me off, please do not post links like
these again, thank you
It is Lynn's (or the cartoonist's) fault that Musk has made himself an
object of ridicule.
Is the sentence above missing a "not"?
Maybe, or perhaps the first two words need to be swapped and a question
mark added to the end of the sentence. :-)
Muskrat didn't make himself an object of ridicule ... he has *ALWAYS*
been an object of ridicule.
Really? When Tesla couldn't make cars fast enough to meet demand? When
SpaceX boosters started to stick their landings on barges?
On Sat, 10 May 2025 10:46:06 +1200, Your Name <[email protected]>
wrote:
On 2025-05-09 16:45:30 +0000, Robert Woodward said:
In article <[email protected]>,
Paul S Person <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Thu, 8 May 2025 19:56:21 +0300, "Dob" <[email protected]> wrote:
political bullshit like this pisses me off, please do not post links like >>>>> these again, thank you
It is Lynn's (or the cartoonist's) fault that Musk has made himself an >>>> object of ridicule.
Is the sentence above missing a "not"?
Maybe, or perhaps the first two words need to be swapped and a question
mark added to the end of the sentence. :-)
I posted a correction to insert the "not" earlier this morning. But
your solution was certainly possible, just not the right one in this
case.
Muskrat didn't make himself an object of ridicule ... he has *ALWAYS*
been an object of ridicule.
So, you're theory is that, on day 1, when he popped out, all the
Nurses and Doctors ridiculed him?
That's what "always" would require.
On Sat, 10 May 2025 10:46:06 +1200, Your Name <[email protected]>
wrote:
On 2025-05-09 16:45:30 +0000, Robert Woodward said:
In article <[email protected]>,
Paul S Person <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Thu, 8 May 2025 19:56:21 +0300, "Dob" <[email protected]> wrote:
political bullshit like this pisses me off, please do not post links >>>>> like these again, thank you
It is Lynn's (or the cartoonist's) fault that Musk has made himself an >>>> object of ridicule.
Is the sentence above missing a "not"?
Maybe, or perhaps the first two words need to be swapped and a
question>mark added to the end of the sentence. :-)
I posted a correction to insert the "not" earlier this morning. But
your solution was certainly possible, just not the right one in this
case.
Muskrat didn't make himself an object of ridicule ... he has
*ALWAYS*>been an object of ridicule.
So, you're theory is that, on day 1, when he popped out, all the
Nurses and Doctors ridiculed him?
That's what "always" would require.
In article <vvm0je$338te$[email protected]>,
Your Name <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-05-09 16:45:30 +0000, Robert Woodward said:
In article <[email protected]>,
Paul S Person <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Thu, 8 May 2025 19:56:21 +0300, "Dob" <[email protected]> wrote:
political bullshit like this pisses me off, please do not post links >>>>> like these again, thank you
It is Lynn's (or the cartoonist's) fault that Musk has made himself an >>>> object of ridicule.
Is the sentence above missing a "not"?
Maybe, or perhaps the first two words need to be swapped and a question
mark added to the end of the sentence. :-)
Muskrat didn't make himself an object of ridicule ... he has *ALWAYS*
been an object of ridicule.
Really? When Tesla couldn't make cars fast enough to meet demand? When
SpaceX boosters started to stick their landings on barges?
On 5/10/2025 12:36 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Robert Woodward <[email protected]> writes:
In article <vvm0je$338te$[email protected]>,
Your Name <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-05-09 16:45:30 +0000, Robert Woodward said:
In article <[email protected]>,
Paul S Person <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Thu, 8 May 2025 19:56:21 +0300, "Dob" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>
political bullshit like this pisses me off, please do not post links like
these again, thank you
It is Lynn's (or the cartoonist's) fault that Musk has made himself an >>>>>> object of ridicule.
Is the sentence above missing a "not"?
Maybe, or perhaps the first two words need to be swapped and a question >>>> mark added to the end of the sentence. :-)
Muskrat didn't make himself an object of ridicule ... he has *ALWAYS*
been an object of ridicule.
Really? When Tesla couldn't make cars fast enough to meet demand? When
SpaceX boosters started to stick their landings on barges?
As is well known, musk didn't found tesla, just injected money into
it. As first the market with a reasonably priced electric vehicle
with reasonable range, they dominated the market. There are now
significant competitors in the market, both domestic and foreign,
with comparable vehicles (and in many cases, better). Tesla hasn't a plan >> for a new model[***], and has only made minor updates to the existing
three vehicle lines (we'll consider the cybertruck a failure
for the purposes of this analysis). Relying on a future robocab
market (with Waymo already in operation) to rescue Tesla seems
to be a wall-street fantasy[*]
Likewise, the SpaceX boosters are the product of a wide variety
of young enthusiastic engineers working with industry veterans
to produce a fine line of rockets[**]. Musk provided funding,
and professionals provided the engineering. One can certainly
admire the skills of Ms. Shotwell in running the company with
all the shenanigans her CEO is up to all the time.
He's otherwise a wealthy south african white supremecist who obviously
paid someone to take his US Citizenship examination in his place
and benefited from the timing of the 1999 dot bomb (by selling
his failing payments company X to PayPal for many multiples over
fair valution).
[*] Disclosure, I've been a TSLA shareholder since the IPO. And
I voted -twice- against his ridiculous 56Billion stock grant,
which, fortunately, has been voided twice by a court.
[**] Were it possible, I'd own shares in it.
[***] Like Boeing, they're looking at today's profit, not tomorrow's
replacement for the 737.
Ah, the voice of the jealous jumps up again.
Lynn McGuire <[email protected]> writes:
On 5/10/2025 12:36 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Robert Woodward <[email protected]> writes:
In article <vvm0je$338te$[email protected]>,
Your Name <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-05-09 16:45:30 +0000, Robert Woodward said:
In article <[email protected]>,
Paul S Person <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Thu, 8 May 2025 19:56:21 +0300, "Dob" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>
political bullshit like this pisses me off, please do not post links like
these again, thank you
It is Lynn's (or the cartoonist's) fault that Musk has made himself an >>>>>>> object of ridicule.
Is the sentence above missing a "not"?
Maybe, or perhaps the first two words need to be swapped and a question >>>>> mark added to the end of the sentence. :-)
Muskrat didn't make himself an object of ridicule ... he has *ALWAYS* >>>>> been an object of ridicule.
Really? When Tesla couldn't make cars fast enough to meet demand? When >>>> SpaceX boosters started to stick their landings on barges?
As is well known, musk didn't found tesla, just injected money into
it. As first the market with a reasonably priced electric vehicle
with reasonable range, they dominated the market. There are now
significant competitors in the market, both domestic and foreign,
with comparable vehicles (and in many cases, better). Tesla hasn't a plan >>> for a new model[***], and has only made minor updates to the existing
three vehicle lines (we'll consider the cybertruck a failure
for the purposes of this analysis). Relying on a future robocab
market (with Waymo already in operation) to rescue Tesla seems
to be a wall-street fantasy[*]
Likewise, the SpaceX boosters are the product of a wide variety
of young enthusiastic engineers working with industry veterans
to produce a fine line of rockets[**]. Musk provided funding,
and professionals provided the engineering. One can certainly
admire the skills of Ms. Shotwell in running the company with
all the shenanigans her CEO is up to all the time.
He's otherwise a wealthy south african white supremecist who obviously
paid someone to take his US Citizenship examination in his place
and benefited from the timing of the 1999 dot bomb (by selling
his failing payments company X to PayPal for many multiples over
fair valution).
[*] Disclosure, I've been a TSLA shareholder since the IPO. And
I voted -twice- against his ridiculous 56Billion stock grant,
which, fortunately, has been voided twice by a court.
[**] Were it possible, I'd own shares in it.
[***] Like Boeing, they're looking at today's profit, not tomorrow's
replacement for the 737.
Ah, the voice of the jealous jumps up again.
So you can't argue with the facts, thus you attack the
messenger. Sadly typical of you trumpets and most of
the GOP.
On 5/10/2025 12:36 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Robert Woodward <[email protected]> writes:
In article <vvm0je$338te$[email protected]>,
Your Name <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-05-09 16:45:30 +0000, Robert Woodward said:
In article <[email protected]>,
Paul S Person <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Thu, 8 May 2025 19:56:21 +0300, "Dob" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>
political bullshit like this pisses me off, please do not post links like
these again, thank you
It is Lynn's (or the cartoonist's) fault that Musk has made himself an >>>>>> object of ridicule.
Is the sentence above missing a "not"?
Maybe, or perhaps the first two words need to be swapped and a question >>>> mark added to the end of the sentence. :-)
Muskrat didn't make himself an object of ridicule ... he has *ALWAYS*
been an object of ridicule.
Really? When Tesla couldn't make cars fast enough to meet demand? When
SpaceX boosters started to stick their landings on barges?
As is well known, musk didn't found tesla, just injected money into
it. As first the market with a reasonably priced electric vehicle
with reasonable range, they dominated the market. There are now
significant competitors in the market, both domestic and foreign,
with comparable vehicles (and in many cases, better). Tesla hasn't a plan >> for a new model[***], and has only made minor updates to the existing
three vehicle lines (we'll consider the cybertruck a failure
for the purposes of this analysis). Relying on a future robocab
market (with Waymo already in operation) to rescue Tesla seems
to be a wall-street fantasy[*]
Likewise, the SpaceX boosters are the product of a wide variety
of young enthusiastic engineers working with industry veterans
to produce a fine line of rockets[**]. Musk provided funding,
and professionals provided the engineering. One can certainly
admire the skills of Ms. Shotwell in running the company with
all the shenanigans her CEO is up to all the time.
He's otherwise a wealthy south african white supremecist who obviously
paid someone to take his US Citizenship examination in his place
and benefited from the timing of the 1999 dot bomb (by selling
his failing payments company X to PayPal for many multiples over
fair valution).
[*] Disclosure, I've been a TSLA shareholder since the IPO. And
I voted -twice- against his ridiculous 56Billion stock grant,
which, fortunately, has been voided twice by a court.
[**] Were it possible, I'd own shares in it.
[***] Like Boeing, they're looking at today's profit, not tomorrow's
replacement for the 737.
Ah, the voice of the jealous jumps up again.
Lynn
On 5/19/2025 7:40 PM, Your Name wrote:
On 2025-05-19 19:31:45 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
On 5/10/2025 12:36 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Robert Woodward <[email protected]> writes:
In article <vvm0je$338te$[email protected]>,
Your Name <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-05-09 16:45:30 +0000, Robert Woodward said:
In article <[email protected]>,
Paul S Person <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Thu, 8 May 2025 19:56:21 +0300, "Dob" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
political bullshit like this pisses me off, please do not post links >>>>>>>>> like these again, thank you
It is Lynn's (or the cartoonist's) fault that Musk has made himself an >>>>>>>> object of ridicule.
Is the sentence above missing a "not"?
Maybe, or perhaps the first two words need to be swapped and a question >>>>>> mark added to the end of the sentence. :-)
Muskrat didn't make himself an object of ridicule ... he has *ALWAYS* >>>>>> been an object of ridicule.
Really? When Tesla couldn't make cars fast enough to meet demand? When >>>>> SpaceX boosters started to stick their landings on barges?
As is well known, musk didn't found tesla, just injected money into
it. As first the market with a reasonably priced electric vehicle
with reasonable range, they dominated the market. There are now
significant competitors in the market, both domestic and foreign,
with comparable vehicles (and in many cases, better). Tesla hasn't >>>> a plan for a new model[***], and has only made minor updates to the
existing three vehicle lines (we'll consider the cybertruck a failure
for the purposes of this analysis). Relying on a future robocab
market (with Waymo already in operation) to rescue Tesla seems
to be a wall-street fantasy[*]
Likewise, the SpaceX boosters are the product of a wide variety
of young enthusiastic engineers working with industry veterans
to produce a fine line of rockets[**]. Musk provided funding,
and professionals provided the engineering. One can certainly
admire the skills of Ms. Shotwell in running the company with
all the shenanigans her CEO is up to all the time.
He's otherwise a wealthy south african white supremecist who obviously >>>> paid someone to take his US Citizenship examination in his place
and benefited from the timing of the 1999 dot bomb (by selling
his failing payments company X to PayPal for many multiples over
fair valution).
[*] Disclosure, I've been a TSLA shareholder since the IPO. And
I voted -twice- against his ridiculous 56Billion stock grant,
which, fortunately, has been voided twice by a court.
[**] Were it possible, I'd own shares in it.
[***] Like Boeing, they're looking at today's profit, not tomorrow's
replacement for the 737.
Ah, the voice of the jealous jumps up again.
Lynn
Why would anyone be jealous of Elongated Muskrat?!? He is a complete
moron, who looks insane, and is hated by almost everybody. Even his
buddy Trump the Chump wants to get rid of the Muskrat now he's
outlasted the small amount of usefulness to him.
I suspect you held a different opinion of him in 2017.
He didn't found Tesla, but did build it into the first successful new American car company in 50 years, and made the EV a serious option for drivers. The Model Y was the highest selling vehicle of any kind in
2024.
He did found SpaceX, and has slashed cost to orbit at least 6 fold,
with much further improvement expected.
Those are real, objective accomplishments, and pissing on them because
you detest his politics doesn't make them go away.
It takes a certain type of management skill and talent to achieve
those goals, and he clearly has it in spades.
In other areas, such as charity and compassion, he is sadly lacking.
Just to be clear: I detest his politics and his personality. He's
shown us just how badly we need campaign contribution limits.
My Tesla has gone from being Greta Thunberg's preferred ride to a 'swasticar'. Its been a face/heel turn of astounding scale.
I can hate his personality and politics, while still liking the
cars and rockets, and recognizing that they wouldn't have happened
without him at the helm.
pt
On 2025-05-21 19:51:56 +0000, Cryptoengineer said:
On 5/19/2025 7:40 PM, Your Name wrote:
On 2025-05-19 19:31:45 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
Ah, the voice of the jealous jumps up again.
Why would anyone be jealous of Elongated Muskrat?!? He is a complete
moron, who looks insane, and is hated by almost everybody. Even his
buddy Trump the Chump wants to get rid of the Muskrat now he's
outlasted the small amount of usefulness to him.
I suspect you held a different opinion of him in 2017.
Nope. Elongated Muskrat has *always* been a weird looney.
I suspect you held a different opinion of him in 2017.
He didn't found Tesla, but did build it into the first successful new >American car company in 50 years, and made the EV a serious option for >drivers. The Model Y was the highest selling vehicle of any kind in
2024.
He did found SpaceX, and has slashed cost to orbit at least 6 fold,
with much further improvement expected.
Those are real, objective accomplishments, and pissing on them because
you detest his politics doesn't make them go away.
Just to be clear: I detest his politics and his personality. He's
shown us just how badly we need campaign contribution limits.
My Tesla has gone from being Greta Thunberg's preferred ride to a >'swasticar'. Its been a face/heel turn of astounding scale.
I can hate his personality and politics, while still liking the
cars and rockets, and recognizing that they wouldn't have happened
without him at the helm.
Cryptoengineer <[email protected]> wrote:
I suspect you held a different opinion of him in 2017.
A lot of us did, because in 2017 he was a loonie, but he was a loonie
doing good work. Much like Steve Jobs, he was a guy with a vision and
with money and he might have been crazy and abusive but could be
forgiven for that because of that vision.
Now he's gone from building things to destroying things, and so of
course many of us have changed our opinion of him.
He didn't found Tesla, but did build it into the first successful new >>American car company in 50 years, and made the EV a serious option for >>drivers. The Model Y was the highest selling vehicle of any kind in
2024.
This is true, and he does get a lot of credit for that, in part because
Tesla was built from the ground up and even if he didn't start from the >ground up himself, it wasn't built on any existing design or manufacturing >facility.
[email protected] (Scott Dorsey) writes:
This is true, and he does get a lot of credit for that, in part because >>Tesla was built from the ground up and even if he didn't start from the >>ground up himself, it wasn't built on any existing design or manufacturing >>facility.
Actually, he was fortunate that the NUMMI plant had just been
idled.
[email protected] (Scott Dorsey) writes:
Cryptoengineer <[email protected]> wrote:
I suspect you held a different opinion of him in 2017.
A lot of us did, because in 2017 he was a loonie, but he was a loonie
doing good work. Much like Steve Jobs, he was a guy with a vision and
with money and he might have been crazy and abusive but could be
forgiven for that because of that vision.
Now he's gone from building things to destroying things, and so of
course many of us have changed our opinion of him.
He didn't found Tesla, but did build it into the first successful new
American car company in 50 years, and made the EV a serious option for
drivers. The Model Y was the highest selling vehicle of any kind in
2024.
This is true, and he does get a lot of credit for that, in part because
Tesla was built from the ground up and even if he didn't start from the
ground up himself, it wasn't built on any existing design or manufacturing >> facility.
Actually, he was fortunate that the NUMMI plant had just been
idled.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NUMMI
Without that, he likely would have had difficulties getting sufficient funding to build a greenfield plant.
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