• Pearls Before Swine: Books On Tape

    From Lynn McGuire@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 21 14:42:37 2023
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    Pearls Before Swine: Books On Tape
    https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2023/03/21

    Groan, dad joke warning.

    Lynn

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  • From Ted Nolan @21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Oct 2 20:16:51 2024
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    In article <vdk72q$3bulb$[email protected]>,
    Lynn McGuire <[email protected]> wrote:
    Pearls Before Swine: Books On Tape
    https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2024/10/02

    Books on tape count as real books. I do not know where this tempest in
    a teapot is coming from.

    Lynn


    I'm ambivalent. I let my kindle read to me on long drives and it's
    mostly fine, but then I see the reviews on Amazon where it seems
    like the people listening to the audio book editions are getting
    some kind of radio drama with the narrators doing different voices
    instead of just a recitation of the text.

    I don't think people getting their books that way have the same
    experience as "readers".
    --
    columbiaclosings.com
    What's not in Columbia anymore..

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Ted Nolan on Thu Oct 3 18:39:03 2024
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    On 2024-10-02 20:16:51 +0000, [email protected] (Ted Nolan said:
    In article <vdk72q$3bulb$[email protected]>,
    Lynn McGuire <[email protected]> wrote:
    Pearls Before Swine: Books On Tape
    https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2024/10/02

    Books on tape count as real books. I do not know where this tempest in
    a teapot is coming from.

    Lynn

    I'm ambivalent. I let my kindle read to me on long drives and it's
    mostly fine, but then I see the reviews on Amazon where it seems
    like the people listening to the audio book editions are getting
    some kind of radio drama with the narrators doing different voices
    instead of just a recitation of the text.

    Some are bigger audio drama production, while others are simply book readings.

    The Big Finish company, for example, makes a lot of "Doctor Who" audio
    dramas with the original actors as well as new actors doing their lines
    and sound effects, etc added. They also do a lot of other audio dramas. <https://www.bigfinish.com>

    The quality of the simpler book readings does of course depend on who
    is reading the book. Some can be extremely boring to listen to, while
    others can be really good, and a few can be very bad choices due to
    their accents.

    Of course, with text-to-speech (including AI), you can have pretty much
    any digital book read to you these days, often by a choice of various
    celebrity voices.



    I don't think people getting their books that way have the same
    experience as "readers".

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  • From Scott Lurndal@21:1/5 to Lynn McGuire on Thu Oct 3 16:18:11 2024
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    Lynn McGuire <[email protected]> writes:
    On 10/2/2024 3:16 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <vdk72q$3bulb$[email protected]>,
    Lynn McGuire <[email protected]> wrote:
    Pearls Before Swine: Books On Tape
    https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2024/10/02

    Books on tape count as real books. I do not know where this tempest in
    a teapot is coming from.

    Lynn


    I'm ambivalent. I let my kindle read to me on long drives and it's
    mostly fine, but then I see the reviews on Amazon where it seems
    like the people listening to the audio book editions are getting
    some kind of radio drama with the narrators doing different voices
    instead of just a recitation of the text.

    I don't think people getting their books that way have the same
    experience as "readers".

    I drove my truck a thousand miles last week, 400 miles by myself.

    I drove my car a thousand miles last month (Bay Area
    to San Diego and back over a long weekend). I listened to the
    collected works of the band _Riverside_. Lunch in Pismo,
    dinner in Laguna Nigel. And an opportunity to be up-close
    and personal with an F/A-18C.

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 3 09:52:55 2024
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    On 2 Oct 2024 20:16:51 GMT, [email protected] (Ted Nolan <tednolan>)
    wrote:

    In article <vdk72q$3bulb$[email protected]>,
    Lynn McGuire <[email protected]> wrote:
    Pearls Before Swine: Books On Tape
    https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2024/10/02

    Books on tape count as real books. I do not know where this tempest in
    a teapot is coming from.

    Lynn


    I'm ambivalent. I let my kindle read to me on long drives and it's
    mostly fine, but then I see the reviews on Amazon where it seems
    like the people listening to the audio book editions are getting
    some kind of radio drama with the narrators doing different voices
    instead of just a recitation of the text.

    I don't think people getting their books that way have the same
    experience as "readers".

    My first job was at a Library for the Blind. They had some Braille
    books for the kids when they visited, but the bulk of their clients
    used "talking books", which were converting from 33 1/3
    RPM LPs to 16 RPM discs, which were smaller and lighter. Toward the
    end of my employment there (I moved on, as young people do) a
    conversion to tape (cassette, I think, but reel-to-reel is possible)
    was being tested.

    Those I would count as "readers". Of course, those were
    straightforward readings by professional readers. And, AFAIK, every
    word of every book was read and so heard.

    This was (and may still be) funded by the Federal Government, although
    the building and staff were provided (paid for) by the Public Library.

    Commercial audio books can be dramatic presentations. One reason Bilbo
    in PJs LOTR went to Ian Holm was, IIRC, because he had read Bilbo in
    an audio book that was very dramatic, including (IIRC how those who
    had heard it correctly) music and sound effects.

    But it omitted Tom Bombadil. It was not, IOW, an audio book that
    contained every single word of the paper edition. It was, indeed, a
    performance piece. I very good one, apparently, but not the entire
    book.

    So I would not count those whose only experience with the book /LOTR/
    is the audio book: they have /not/ read it because what they heard was
    /not/ a reading of it.

    Goat's reaction is, however, a bit over-the-top. And Pig is both right
    and wrong, depending on whether what was listened was, in fact, the
    book (every word) and not an entertainment based on the book.

    Semantic goo is everywhere.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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