• Re: Scott Adams fired from Pacific Bell!!!!!

    From David Haldane@21:1/5 to Colin Campbell on Mon Feb 27 14:43:58 2023
    On Thursday, August 10, 1995 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-7, Colin Campbell wrote:
    San Jose Mercury News, August 9:
    CREATOR OF SATIRICAL 'DILBERT' DISCONNECTED BY PAC BELL
    Irreverent comic strip chronicles misadventures in workplace
    BERKELEY (AP) Scott Adams, creator of the irreverent workplace comic
    strip "Dilbert," has lost his day job.
    Adams said Tuesday he and Pacific Bell parted company June 30.
    "They asked me to leave, and I did," he said simply.
    Pacific Bell officials did not return a call seeking comment.
    The cartoonist said he was told that he was being let go because of
    budget constraints. He does not know whether his strip satirizing
    management idiosyncrasies--and idiocies--played a role.
    "I can't read minds, so your guess is as good as mine--why would I doubt them?" he said in a phone interview from his home in Dublin.
    Still, he said his role as management gadfly can't be discounted as a factor.
    Adams' daily comic strip chronicles long-suffering Dilbert's
    misadventures at the hands of witless supervisors, experiences that have struck a chord with many a cubicle-dweller.
    Adams, who communicates with readers via electronic mail, says he
    receives hundreds of missives from disgruntled workers, many of which provide fodder for the strip.
    In December, Adams did an e-mail survey of "The Top Tenn Most Irritating Business Trends of 1994." Working with and for dummies were the top two.
    An applications engineer, Adams had worked for Pacific Bell for nine
    years. "Dilbert" premiered in 1989.
    Adams had worked for a boss who thought Dilbert was funny, but he
    recently got a new supervisor, one who came in at a time when money was tight.
    Adams said losing the job won't close his window on the workplace.
    "I really hadn't used Pacific Bell as a source for a couple of years," he said. "I get almost all of my inspiration from the Internet."
    But, even though he said Dilbert now appears in about 500
    newspapers,there was some separation anxiety for a man who had earned a regular paycheck "probably since I was 16."
    So will Dilbert suffer the same corporate karma as his creator?
    "I can't rule that out," Adams said.
    Despite the awkwardness of being given the push, Adams said the parting
    was civil.
    "The only issue was that my boss pleaded with me not to introduce a character with a beard," he said.
    Fat chance.
    "I'm working on it," Adams said.


    Per his tweet today, he was fired for being racist. https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1630186244327227393

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  • From M N@21:1/5 to David Haldane on Wed Aug 23 09:07:09 2023
    On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 5:43:59 PM UTC-5, David Haldane wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 1995 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-7, Colin Campbell wrote:
    San Jose Mercury News, August 9:
    CREATOR OF SATIRICAL 'DILBERT' DISCONNECTED BY PAC BELL
    Irreverent comic strip chronicles misadventures in workplace
    BERKELEY (AP) Scott Adams, creator of the irreverent workplace comic
    strip "Dilbert," has lost his day job.
    Adams said Tuesday he and Pacific Bell parted company June 30.
    "They asked me to leave, and I did," he said simply.
    Pacific Bell officials did not return a call seeking comment.
    The cartoonist said he was told that he was being let go because of
    budget constraints. He does not know whether his strip satirizing management idiosyncrasies--and idiocies--played a role.
    "I can't read minds, so your guess is as good as mine--why would I doubt them?" he said in a phone interview from his home in Dublin.
    Still, he said his role as management gadfly can't be discounted as a factor.
    Adams' daily comic strip chronicles long-suffering Dilbert's
    misadventures at the hands of witless supervisors, experiences that have struck a chord with many a cubicle-dweller.
    Adams, who communicates with readers via electronic mail, says he
    receives hundreds of missives from disgruntled workers, many of which provide fodder for the strip.
    In December, Adams did an e-mail survey of "The Top Tenn Most Irritating Business Trends of 1994." Working with and for dummies were the top two. An applications engineer, Adams had worked for Pacific Bell for nine years. "Dilbert" premiered in 1989.
    Adams had worked for a boss who thought Dilbert was funny, but he
    recently got a new supervisor, one who came in at a time when money was tight.
    Adams said losing the job won't close his window on the workplace.
    "I really hadn't used Pacific Bell as a source for a couple of years," he said. "I get almost all of my inspiration from the Internet."
    But, even though he said Dilbert now appears in about 500
    newspapers,there was some separation anxiety for a man who had earned a regular paycheck "probably since I was 16."
    So will Dilbert suffer the same corporate karma as his creator?
    "I can't rule that out," Adams said.
    Despite the awkwardness of being given the push, Adams said the parting was civil.
    "The only issue was that my boss pleaded with me not to introduce a character with a beard," he said.
    Fat chance.
    "I'm working on it," Adams said.


    Per his tweet today, he was fired for being racist. https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1630186244327227393

    Browsing the archive I'm shocked to see someone reviving the conversation 30 years later. Heh ok I'll play too.

    I don't think Scott is saying he was fired for being racist, I think he's meaning he was fired by a white person for being white. It's some veiled dig at affirmative action or something like that Scott is often dodgy and vague in his communications.
    Also lol at Scott Adams identifying as black, yeah I can just see this middle manager wanabee pale as a sheet and raised in an almost all white town in the northeast identifying with black culture.

    I think Scott was just part of a downsizing operation, particularly if he was part of pacbell's ISDN group, by 1995 analog modems were pretty fast and DSL was on the horizon. There were murmurs of cable internet. Shrinking that group would have made
    a lot of sense. Make no mistake I have no doubt that Scott Adams is capable of making racist statements of the sort that get people fired as demonstrated by the mass cancellation of his strip.

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  • From John W Kennedy@21:1/5 to M N on Wed Aug 23 19:25:32 2023
    On 8/23/23 12:07 PM, M N wrote:
    On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 5:43:59 PM UTC-5, David Haldane wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 1995 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-7, Colin Campbell wrote: >>> San Jose Mercury News, August 9:
    CREATOR OF SATIRICAL 'DILBERT' DISCONNECTED BY PAC BELL
    Irreverent comic strip chronicles misadventures in workplace
    BERKELEY (AP) Scott Adams, creator of the irreverent workplace comic
    strip "Dilbert," has lost his day job.
    Adams said Tuesday he and Pacific Bell parted company June 30.
    "They asked me to leave, and I did," he said simply.
    Pacific Bell officials did not return a call seeking comment.
    The cartoonist said he was told that he was being let go because of
    budget constraints. He does not know whether his strip satirizing
    management idiosyncrasies--and idiocies--played a role.
    "I can't read minds, so your guess is as good as mine--why would I doubt >>> them?" he said in a phone interview from his home in Dublin.
    Still, he said his role as management gadfly can't be discounted as a
    factor.
    Adams' daily comic strip chronicles long-suffering Dilbert's
    misadventures at the hands of witless supervisors, experiences that have >>> struck a chord with many a cubicle-dweller.
    Adams, who communicates with readers via electronic mail, says he
    receives hundreds of missives from disgruntled workers, many of which
    provide fodder for the strip.
    In December, Adams did an e-mail survey of "The Top Tenn Most Irritating >>> Business Trends of 1994." Working with and for dummies were the top two. >>> An applications engineer, Adams had worked for Pacific Bell for nine
    years. "Dilbert" premiered in 1989.
    Adams had worked for a boss who thought Dilbert was funny, but he
    recently got a new supervisor, one who came in at a time when money was
    tight.
    Adams said losing the job won't close his window on the workplace.
    "I really hadn't used Pacific Bell as a source for a couple of years," he >>> said. "I get almost all of my inspiration from the Internet."
    But, even though he said Dilbert now appears in about 500
    newspapers,there was some separation anxiety for a man who had earned a
    regular paycheck "probably since I was 16."
    So will Dilbert suffer the same corporate karma as his creator?
    "I can't rule that out," Adams said.
    Despite the awkwardness of being given the push, Adams said the parting
    was civil.
    "The only issue was that my boss pleaded with me not to introduce a
    character with a beard," he said.
    Fat chance.
    "I'm working on it," Adams said.


    Per his tweet today, he was fired for being racist. https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1630186244327227393

    Browsing the archive I'm shocked to see someone reviving the conversation 30 years later. Heh ok I'll play too.

    I don't think Scott is saying he was fired for being racist, I think he's meaning he was fired by a white person for being white. It's some veiled dig at affirmative action or something like that Scott is often dodgy and vague in his communications.
    Also lol at Scott Adams identifying as black, yeah I can just see this middle manager wanabee pale as a sheet and raised in an almost all white town in the northeast identifying with black culture.

    I think Scott was just part of a downsizing operation, particularly if he was part of pacbell's ISDN group, by 1995 analog modems were pretty fast and DSL was on the horizon. There were murmurs of cable internet. Shrinking that group would have
    made a lot of sense. Make no mistake I have no doubt that Scott Adams is capable of making racist statements of the sort that get people fired as demonstrated by the mass cancellation of his strip.


    I seem to recall him touting ISDN as the Wave of the Future back then.

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  • From Pluted Pup@21:1/5 to John W Kennedy on Wed Sep 13 14:55:32 2023
    On Wed, 23 Aug 2023 16:25:32 -0700, John W Kennedy wrote:

    On 8/23/23 12:07 PM, M N wrote:
    On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 5:43:59???PM UTC-5, David Haldane wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 1995 at 12:00:00???AM UTC-7, Colin Campbell wrote:
    San Jose Mercury News, August 9:
    CREATOR OF SATIRICAL 'DILBERT' DISCONNECTED BY PAC BELL
    Irreverent comic strip chronicles misadventures in workplace
    BERKELEY (AP) Scott Adams, creator of the irreverent workplace comic strip "Dilbert," has lost his day job.
    Adams said Tuesday he and Pacific Bell parted company June 30.
    "They asked me to leave, and I did," he said simply.
    Pacific Bell officials did not return a call seeking comment.
    The cartoonist said he was told that he was being let go because of budget constraints. He does not know whether his strip satirizing management idiosyncrasies--and idiocies--played a role.
    "I can't read minds, so your guess is as good as mine--why would I doubt
    them?" he said in a phone interview from his home in Dublin.
    Still, he said his role as management gadfly can't be discounted as a factor.
    Adams' daily comic strip chronicles long-suffering Dilbert's misadventures at the hands of witless supervisors, experiences that have
    struck a chord with many a cubicle-dweller.
    Adams, who communicates with readers via electronic mail, says he receives hundreds of missives from disgruntled workers, many of which provide fodder for the strip.
    In December, Adams did an e-mail survey of "The Top Tenn Most Irritating
    Business Trends of 1994." Working with and for dummies were the top two.
    An applications engineer, Adams had worked for Pacific Bell for nine years. "Dilbert" premiered in 1989.
    Adams had worked for a boss who thought Dilbert was funny, but he recently got a new supervisor, one who came in at a time when money was tight.
    Adams said losing the job won't close his window on the workplace.
    "I really hadn't used Pacific Bell as a source for a couple of years," he
    said. "I get almost all of my inspiration from the Internet."
    But, even though he said Dilbert now appears in about 500 newspapers,there was some separation anxiety for a man who had earned a regular paycheck "probably since I was 16."
    So will Dilbert suffer the same corporate karma as his creator?
    "I can't rule that out," Adams said.
    Despite the awkwardness of being given the push, Adams said the parting was civil.
    "The only issue was that my boss pleaded with me not to introduce a character with a beard," he said.
    Fat chance.
    "I'm working on it," Adams said.


    Per his tweet today, he was fired for being racist. https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1630186244327227393

    So quote the twitter! You can't depend on third parties
    to keep their posts available for others to see, so
    to quote the tweet: (do you think he's serious and do
    you read enough Dilbert?):

    https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1630186244327227393

    I've lost three careers to direct racism so far. Crocker Bank, Pacific Bell, and cartooning.

    All three were perpetrated by White people for their own gain.

    No Black person has ever discriminated against me. That's partly why I identified as Black for several years.


    Browsing the archive I'm shocked to see someone reviving the conversation 30 years later. Heh ok I'll play too.

    I don't think Scott is saying he was fired for being racist, I think he's meaning he was fired by a white person for being white. It's some veiled dig at affirmative action or something like that Scott is often dodgy and vague in his communications.
    Also lol at Scott Adams identifying as black, yeah I can just see this middle manager wanabee pale as a sheet and raised in an almost all white town in the northeast identifying with black culture.

    I think Scott was just part of a downsizing operation, particularly if he was part of pacbell's ISDN group, by 1995 analog modems were pretty fast and DSL was on the horizon. There were murmurs of cable internet. Shrinking that group would have made
    a lot of sense. Make no mistake I have no doubt that Scott Adams is capable of making racist statements of the sort that get people fired as demonstrated by the mass cancellation of his strip.

    I seem to recall him touting ISDN as the Wave of the Future back then.

    I just read his ISDN installation strips from 1997, where
    Dilbert is thrilled to have 128 kps internet, from
    the now banned book Journey to Cubeville.

    Which do you think is better: 28 kbs or 128 kbs?

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  • From John W Kennedy@21:1/5 to Pluted Pup on Wed Sep 13 19:55:06 2023
    On 9/13/23 5:55 PM, Pluted Pup wrote:
    On Wed, 23 Aug 2023 16:25:32 -0700, John W Kennedy wrote:

    On 8/23/23 12:07 PM, M N wrote:
    On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 5:43:59???PM UTC-5, David Haldane wrote: >>>> On Thursday, August 10, 1995 at 12:00:00???AM UTC-7, Colin Campbell wrote: >>>>> San Jose Mercury News, August 9:
    CREATOR OF SATIRICAL 'DILBERT' DISCONNECTED BY PAC BELL
    Irreverent comic strip chronicles misadventures in workplace
    BERKELEY (AP) Scott Adams, creator of the irreverent workplace comic >>>>> strip "Dilbert," has lost his day job.
    Adams said Tuesday he and Pacific Bell parted company June 30.
    "They asked me to leave, and I did," he said simply.
    Pacific Bell officials did not return a call seeking comment.
    The cartoonist said he was told that he was being let go because of
    budget constraints. He does not know whether his strip satirizing
    management idiosyncrasies--and idiocies--played a role.
    "I can't read minds, so your guess is as good as mine--why would I doubt >>>>> them?" he said in a phone interview from his home in Dublin.
    Still, he said his role as management gadfly can't be discounted as a >>>>> factor.
    Adams' daily comic strip chronicles long-suffering Dilbert's
    misadventures at the hands of witless supervisors, experiences that have >>>>> struck a chord with many a cubicle-dweller.
    Adams, who communicates with readers via electronic mail, says he
    receives hundreds of missives from disgruntled workers, many of which >>>>> provide fodder for the strip.
    In December, Adams did an e-mail survey of "The Top Tenn Most Irritating >>>>> Business Trends of 1994." Working with and for dummies were the top two. >>>>> An applications engineer, Adams had worked for Pacific Bell for nine >>>>> years. "Dilbert" premiered in 1989.
    Adams had worked for a boss who thought Dilbert was funny, but he
    recently got a new supervisor, one who came in at a time when money was >>>>> tight.
    Adams said losing the job won't close his window on the workplace.
    "I really hadn't used Pacific Bell as a source for a couple of years," he >>>>> said. "I get almost all of my inspiration from the Internet."
    But, even though he said Dilbert now appears in about 500
    newspapers,there was some separation anxiety for a man who had earned a >>>>> regular paycheck "probably since I was 16."
    So will Dilbert suffer the same corporate karma as his creator?
    "I can't rule that out," Adams said.
    Despite the awkwardness of being given the push, Adams said the parting >>>>> was civil.
    "The only issue was that my boss pleaded with me not to introduce a
    character with a beard," he said.
    Fat chance.
    "I'm working on it," Adams said.


    Per his tweet today, he was fired for being racist. https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1630186244327227393

    So quote the twitter! You can't depend on third parties
    to keep their posts available for others to see, so
    to quote the tweet: (do you think he's serious and do
    you read enough Dilbert?):

    https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1630186244327227393

    I've lost three careers to direct racism so far. Crocker Bank, Pacific Bell, and cartooning.

    All three were perpetrated by White people for their own gain.

    No Black person has ever discriminated against me. That's partly why I identified as Black for several years.


    Browsing the archive I'm shocked to see someone reviving the conversation 30 years later. Heh ok I'll play too.

    I don't think Scott is saying he was fired for being racist, I think he's meaning he was fired by a white person for being white. It's some veiled dig at affirmative action or something like that Scott is often dodgy and vague in his communications.
    Also lol at Scott Adams identifying as black, yeah I can just see this middle manager wanabee pale as a sheet and raised in an almost all white town in the northeast identifying with black culture.

    I think Scott was just part of a downsizing operation, particularly if he was part of pacbell's ISDN group, by 1995 analog modems were pretty fast and DSL was on the horizon. There were murmurs of cable internet. Shrinking that group would have made
    a lot of sense. Make no mistake I have no doubt that Scott Adams is capable of making racist statements of the sort that get people fired as demonstrated by the mass cancellation of his strip.

    I seem to recall him touting ISDN as the Wave of the Future back then.

    I just read his ISDN installation strips from 1997, where
    Dilbert is thrilled to have 128 kps internet, from
    the now banned book Journey to Cubeville.

    Which do you think is better: 28 kbs or 128 kbs?

    I meant outside the strip—in a newsletter, or the front matter of a
    book. He was arguing that telcos were more experienced at multipoint half-duplex than cable companies, who knew only how to do simplex, and
    that, therefore, ISDN would get the job done better. In the event, of
    course, ISDN pretty much laid an egg; even telcos were soon switching to
    DSL. (I personally went with my cable company because my block—only my block—was, for no stated reason, excluded from Verizon DSL service, so
    when Optimum drove a truck down the street handing out do-it-yourself
    broadband Internet to all their existing cable customers, I jumped at it.

    --
    John W. Kennedy
    Algernon Burbage, Lord Roderick, Father Martin, Bishop Baldwin,
    King Pellinore, Captain Bailey, Merlin -- A Kingdom for a Stage!

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  • From Lynn McGuire@21:1/5 to David Haldane on Fri Sep 15 16:56:17 2023
    On 2/27/2023 4:43 PM, David Haldane wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 1995 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-7, Colin Campbell wrote:
    San Jose Mercury News, August 9:
    CREATOR OF SATIRICAL 'DILBERT' DISCONNECTED BY PAC BELL
    Irreverent comic strip chronicles misadventures in workplace
    BERKELEY (AP) Scott Adams, creator of the irreverent workplace comic
    strip "Dilbert," has lost his day job.
    Adams said Tuesday he and Pacific Bell parted company June 30.
    "They asked me to leave, and I did," he said simply.
    Pacific Bell officials did not return a call seeking comment.
    The cartoonist said he was told that he was being let go because of
    budget constraints. He does not know whether his strip satirizing
    management idiosyncrasies--and idiocies--played a role.
    "I can't read minds, so your guess is as good as mine--why would I doubt
    them?" he said in a phone interview from his home in Dublin.
    Still, he said his role as management gadfly can't be discounted as a
    factor.
    Adams' daily comic strip chronicles long-suffering Dilbert's
    misadventures at the hands of witless supervisors, experiences that have
    struck a chord with many a cubicle-dweller.
    Adams, who communicates with readers via electronic mail, says he
    receives hundreds of missives from disgruntled workers, many of which
    provide fodder for the strip.
    In December, Adams did an e-mail survey of "The Top Tenn Most Irritating
    Business Trends of 1994." Working with and for dummies were the top two.
    An applications engineer, Adams had worked for Pacific Bell for nine
    years. "Dilbert" premiered in 1989.
    Adams had worked for a boss who thought Dilbert was funny, but he
    recently got a new supervisor, one who came in at a time when money was
    tight.
    Adams said losing the job won't close his window on the workplace.
    "I really hadn't used Pacific Bell as a source for a couple of years," he
    said. "I get almost all of my inspiration from the Internet."
    But, even though he said Dilbert now appears in about 500
    newspapers,there was some separation anxiety for a man who had earned a
    regular paycheck "probably since I was 16."
    So will Dilbert suffer the same corporate karma as his creator?
    "I can't rule that out," Adams said.
    Despite the awkwardness of being given the push, Adams said the parting
    was civil.
    "The only issue was that my boss pleaded with me not to introduce a
    character with a beard," he said.
    Fat chance.
    "I'm working on it," Adams said.


    Per his tweet today, he was fired for being racist. https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1630186244327227393

    Not the most necro reply that I have seen but, definitely up in the top ten.

    Lynn

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