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  • LNH/META: What Else is an Elsewhirl?

    From Drew Nilium@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 12 01:33:59 2022
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    This seems like a good subject to ride back in on!

    So I was working on https://lnh.diamond-age.net/wiki/List_of_Elsewhirls , and I was struck by a problem - what counts as an Elsewhirl? Obviously, anything explicitly labeled as an Elsewhirl goes in, as does anything with "ELSE" in the tags, but there's stories that don't have any of that that still clearly fit.

    My immediate definition is: Any standalone story that doesn't fit cleanly into the continuity of an existing imprint - that is, Classic LNH, LNH20, LNHY, LNH2,
    NTB, etc. This doesn't count ongoing yet self-contained stuff. It's very function-over-content, but that seems useful for the wiki, at least. X3

    Drew "going to put Syrup of the Gods as one based on this" Nilium

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  • From Scott Eiler@21:1/5 to Drew Nilium on Wed Oct 12 21:37:28 2022
    XPost: alt.comics.lnh

    On 2022-10-11 18:33, Drew Nilium wrote:
    ...
    My immediate definition is: Any standalone story that doesn't fit
    cleanly into the continuity of an existing imprint - that is, Classic
    LNH, LNH20, LNHY, LNH2, NTB, etc. This doesn't count ongoing yet self-contained stuff. It's very function-over-content, but that seems
    useful for the wiki, at least. X3

    Drew "going to put Syrup of the Gods as one based on this" Nilium

    You may recall, SW10 is infamous for its reality shifts. (Most recently
    by publication order, Powernaut 1944 / 2006.) Syrup of the Gods has the distinction of being one of those also. (Who Killed the Cat with
    Glasses is just a straightforward crossover.)

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  • From Arthur Spitzer@21:1/5 to Drew Perron on Thu Oct 27 05:43:19 2022
    On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 6:34:01 PM UTC-7, Drew Perron wrote:
    This seems like a good subject to ride back in on!

    So I was working on https://lnh.diamond-age.net/wiki/List_of_Elsewhirls , and I
    was struck by a problem - what counts as an Elsewhirl? Obviously, anything explicitly labeled as an Elsewhirl goes in, as does anything with "ELSE" in the
    tags, but there's stories that don't have any of that that still clearly fit.

    My immediate definition is: Any standalone story that doesn't fit cleanly into
    the continuity of an existing imprint - that is, Classic LNH, LNH20, LNHY, LNH2,
    NTB, etc. This doesn't count ongoing yet self-contained stuff. It's very function-over-content, but that seems useful for the wiki, at least. X3

    Drew "going to put Syrup of the Gods as one based on this" Nilium

    I guess a strict definition of Elsewhirl would be something that exists out of continuity (Probably how Continuity Porn Star sees it).

    I mean JONG #69 was an Elsewhirl, but did it stop being one when Non-Judgmental Agnostic entered into the main timeline?

    Syrup of Gods did have maintime line's The Mechanical Author in it (and one would
    assume it all that happened in continuity -- that it went from being stuck in the Fourth
    Wall to running its own perfect Universe at the end.)

    Retcon Midnight happened because Pliable Lad was retconned in Retcon Hour. I guess
    you have these either alternate futures or alternate timelines (like ones that popped in
    and out of existence in Retcon Hour).

    But if probably doesn't really matter.

    Arthur "Whatever you want.." Spitzer

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  • From Drew Nilium@21:1/5 to Arthur Spitzer on Tue Nov 1 01:44:05 2022
    On 10/27/22 1:43 AM, Arthur Spitzer wrote:
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    I guess a strict definition of Elsewhirl would be something that exists out of
    continuity (Probably how Continuity Porn Star sees it).

    I mean JONG #69 was an Elsewhirl, but did it stop being one when Non-Judgmental
    Agnostic entered into the main timeline?

    Syrup of Gods did have maintime line's The Mechanical Author in it (and one would
    assume it all that happened in continuity -- that it went from being stuck in the Fourth
    Wall to running its own perfect Universe at the end.)

    Retcon Midnight happened because Pliable Lad was retconned in Retcon Hour. I guess
    you have these either alternate futures or alternate timelines (like ones that popped in
    and out of existence in Retcon Hour).

    But if probably doesn't really matter.

    Yeah, it's one of those weird things where you have to draw an arbitrary line in
    order to fit it into a curative fandom mold. But the LNH thrives on taking arbitrary lines and fucking around with them, so I'm glad to provide another to play with. <3

    Arthur "Whatever you want.." Spitzer

    Drew "w/e" Nilium

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