• Re: C.S. Lewis and Fundamentalists

    From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Aug 2 09:10:57 2025
    On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 06:16:48 +0200, Steve Hayes
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    In the USA (and elsewhere) the lines have sometimes become blurred, but the >TULIP Calvinists would reject the notion of decisional regeneration.

    TULIP? I'm pretty sure I understand the rest of what you said but have
    never heard that particular acronym before...

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  • From Robert Woodward@21:1/5 to The Horny Goat on Sat Aug 2 21:42:37 2025
    In article <[email protected]>,
    The Horny Goat <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 06:16:48 +0200, Steve Hayes
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    In the USA (and elsewhere) the lines have sometimes become blurred, but the >TULIP Calvinists would reject the notion of decisional regeneration.

    TULIP? I'm pretty sure I understand the rest of what you said but have
    never heard that particular acronym before...

    The acronym represents the 5 points of Calvinism, see <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Points_of_Calvinism>

    --
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    Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_. -------------------------------------------------------
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  • From Steve Hayes@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 3 06:44:27 2025
    On Sat, 02 Aug 2025 09:10:57 -0700, The Horny Goat <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 06:16:48 +0200, Steve Hayes
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    In the USA (and elsewhere) the lines have sometimes become blurred, but the >>TULIP Calvinists would reject the notion of decisional regeneration.

    TULIP? I'm pretty sure I understand the rest of what you said but have
    never heard that particular acronym before...

    I used to know what the letters stood for, but I'd forgotten.

    A web search for "TULIP Calvinism" produces:

    "TULIP is an acronym that summarizes the five points of Calvinism,
    which are Total Depravity, Unconditional Election, Limited Atonement, Irresistible Grace, and Perseverance of the Saints. These points
    outline a specific understanding of salvation in Reformed theology"


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    Web site: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Aug 8 22:04:39 2025
    On Sun, 03 Aug 2025 06:44:27 +0200, Steve Hayes
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Sat, 02 Aug 2025 09:10:57 -0700, The Horny Goat <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 06:16:48 +0200, Steve Hayes
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    In the USA (and elsewhere) the lines have sometimes become blurred, but the >>>TULIP Calvinists would reject the notion of decisional regeneration.

    TULIP? I'm pretty sure I understand the rest of what you said but have >>never heard that particular acronym before...

    I used to know what the letters stood for, but I'd forgotten.

    A web search for "TULIP Calvinism" produces:

    "TULIP is an acronym that summarizes the five points of Calvinism,
    which are Total Depravity, Unconditional Election, Limited Atonement, >Irresistible Grace, and Perseverance of the Saints. These points
    outline a specific understanding of salvation in Reformed theology"

    Guess I'll have to brush up on my theology since while I think I
    understand what these terms mean in the Reformist context I guess I'm
    too Arminialist for the Calvinists which is why I have reservations
    about the local Presbyterian church I attend infrequently. (i.e. I
    like the congregation but am not sure of the theology)

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  • From Steve Hayes@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 11 09:04:08 2025
    On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 22:04:39 -0700, The Horny Goat <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 03 Aug 2025 06:44:27 +0200, Steve Hayes
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Sat, 02 Aug 2025 09:10:57 -0700, The Horny Goat <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 06:16:48 +0200, Steve Hayes
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    In the USA (and elsewhere) the lines have sometimes become blurred, but the >>>>TULIP Calvinists would reject the notion of decisional regeneration.

    TULIP? I'm pretty sure I understand the rest of what you said but have >>>never heard that particular acronym before...

    I used to know what the letters stood for, but I'd forgotten.

    A web search for "TULIP Calvinism" produces:

    "TULIP is an acronym that summarizes the five points of Calvinism,
    which are Total Depravity, Unconditional Election, Limited Atonement, >>Irresistible Grace, and Perseverance of the Saints. These points
    outline a specific understanding of salvation in Reformed theology"

    Guess I'll have to brush up on my theology since while I think I
    understand what these terms mean in the Reformist context I guess I'm
    too Arminialist for the Calvinists which is why I have reservations
    about the local Presbyterian church I attend infrequently. (i.e. I
    like the congregation but am not sure of the theology)

    True Tulip believers often have a set of questions they use to
    interrogate people whose theology they suspect of not being Calvinist
    enough.

    I once shared a room with one at a conference, and he subjected me to
    the test. I obviously failed, because he asked the conference
    organisers to move him to a different room.


    --
    Stephen Hayes, Author of The Year of the Dragon
    Sample or purchase The Year of the Dragon: https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/907935
    Web site: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
    Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
    E-mail: [email protected] or if you use Gmail [email protected]

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Aug 26 21:00:58 2025
    On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 09:04:08 +0200, Steve Hayes
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    True Tulip believers often have a set of questions they use to
    interrogate people whose theology they suspect of not being Calvinist
    enough.

    I once shared a room with one at a conference, and he subjected me to
    the test. I obviously failed, because he asked the conference
    organisers to move him to a different room.

    Interesting - years ago I attended a conference at U of Illinois
    Urbana and while my roommate (they had deliberately put people
    together from opposite ends of the country together) was very
    definitely of that ilk he didn't respond the way your "friend" did.

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