• What are the best books you've read in 2024?

    From Steve Hayes@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 14 09:51:19 2024
    XPost: alt.books, alt.books.reviews

    What are the best books you've read in 2024?

    Mine:

    87 Lewis, C.S. 1973. Prince Caspian.
    87 Towles, Amor. 2017. A Gentleman in Moscow.
    86 Poland, Marguerite. 2019. A Sin of Omission.
    85 Williams, Pip. 2022. The Dictionary of Lost Words.
    84 Holland, Tom. 2019. Dominion: The Making of the Western Mind.
    83 Jewell, Lisa. 2019. The Family Upstairs.
    82 de la Motte, Anders. 2020. Rites of Spring.
    82 Glyn, Patricia. 2006. Footing with Sir Richard's Ghost.
    81 King, Stephen. 2011. 11.22.63.
    81 Wain, John. 1974. A Winter in the Hills.

    Scores out of 100, so those over 80 got 5 stars on GoodReads

    Reviews of the (tied) top two here:

    Telmarines: the ultimate whenwes <https://methodius.blogspot.com/2024/09/telmarines-ultimate-whenwes.html>

    A Gentleman in Moscow -- the mind and face of Bolshevism <https://methodius.blogspot.com/2024/07/a-gentleman-in-moscow-mind-and-face-of.html>



    --
    Stephen Hayes, Author of The Year of the Dragon
    Sample or purchase The Year of the Dragon: https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/907935
    Web site: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
    Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
    E-mail: [email protected] or if you use Gmail [email protected]

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From bertietaylor@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 14 11:02:29 2024
    XPost: alt.books, alt.books.reviews

    Good try.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Sam Whited@21:1/5 to Steve Hayes on Sat Dec 14 08:15:47 2024
    On 2024-12-14 02:51, Steve Hayes wrote:
    What are the best books you've read in 2024?

    Oh fun! I'm tentatively dipping my toes back into usenet after many
    years away (last time it was just too unmoderated, but I haven't posted
    in this group before I don't think, so we'll see!), so I'll play! No
    ratings on mine, but here are my favorite 10 books from this year in no particular order:


    - "A Psalm for the Wild-Built" / "A Prayer for the Crown-Shy" by Becky
    Chambers (these are novellas in a series of two, so we'll just call them
    one book since they're short and the second picks up right where the
    first left off)
    - "The Player of Games" by Ian M. Banks
    - "Braiding Sweetgrass" by Robin Wall Kimmerer
    - "Record of a Spaceborn Few" by Becky Chambers"
    - "Heaven and Earth Grocery Store" by James McBride
    - "Bicycling with Butterflies" by Sara Dykman
    - "Blood in the Machine" by Brian Merchant
    - "The Terraformers" by Annalee Newitz
    - "The Light Pirate" by Lily Brooks-Dalton
    - "The Lost Cause" by Cory Doctorow

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Steve Hayes@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 14 19:44:00 2024
    On Sat, 14 Dec 2024 08:15:47 -0500, Sam Whited <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    - "A Psalm for the Wild-Built" / "A Prayer for the Crown-Shy" by Becky >Chambers (these are novellas in a series of two, so we'll just call them
    one book since they're short and the second picks up right where the
    first left off)
    - "The Player of Games" by Ian M. Banks
    - "Braiding Sweetgrass" by Robin Wall Kimmerer
    - "Record of a Spaceborn Few" by Becky Chambers"
    - "Heaven and Earth Grocery Store" by James McBride
    - "Bicycling with Butterflies" by Sara Dykman
    - "Blood in the Machine" by Brian Merchant
    - "The Terraformers" by Annalee Newitz
    - "The Light Pirate" by Lily Brooks-Dalton
    - "The Lost Cause" by Cory Doctorow

    I haven't read any of those.

    I don't think Ive even heard of any of the authors, with the exception
    of Cory Doctorow.
    --
    Stephen Hayes, Author of The Year of the Dragon
    Sample or purchase The Year of the Dragon: https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/907935
    Web site: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
    Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
    E-mail: [email protected] or if you use Gmail [email protected]

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mark Carroll@21:1/5 to Sam Whited on Tue Dec 24 16:52:04 2024
    On 14 Dec 2024, Sam Whited wrote:

    On 2024-12-14 02:51, Steve Hayes wrote:
    What are the best books you've read in 2024?

    Oh fun! I'm tentatively dipping my toes back into usenet after many
    years away (last time it was just too unmoderated, but I haven't posted
    in this group before I don't think, so we'll see!), so I'll play!

    Absolutely. Lovely to see some actual content.

    I've been rather poor at reading much in recent years but perhaps I can
    be inspired to read more. What I do read, usually I forget its title and author. I've a soft spot for science fiction and tried Julie Czerneda's "Beholder's Eye" which is easy-going but entertaining enough and
    attempts to show an alien's-eye view, which I always like. However, the
    library didn't have any of the follow-ups (Glasgow's library system has
    a surprisingly poor selection) and I didn't like it enough to
    immediately seek it out regardless.

    (snip)
    - "The Player of Games" by Ian M. Banks

    This is one of my favorites among his science-fiction novels, though I
    recall it's also one that divides readers: people tend to rather like it
    or not. It's an interesting premise that he just about pulls off.

    - "Record of a Spaceborn Few" by Becky Chambers"

    Hmmm, I've got the first of the series on my library reserve list, the
    only copies are either missing or overdue so goodness knows if any will
    ever turn up.

    -- Mark

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Sam Whited@21:1/5 to Mark Carroll on Thu Dec 26 06:44:41 2024
    On 2024-12-24 11:52, Mark Carroll wrote:
    On 14 Dec 2024, Sam Whited wrote:
    - "The Player of Games" by Ian M. Banks

    This is one of my favorites among his science-fiction novels, though I recall it's also one that divides readers: people tend to rather like it
    or not. It's an interesting premise that he just about pulls off.

    Interesting, I was under the impression that this was the most widely acclaimed! You may be thinking of the first one, "Consider Phlebas",
    which I know some people recommend skipping and reading later on, but personally I loved that one too and thought it was a great introduction
    to the series. Or I could just be wrong. After the first two, I could
    take them or leave them, but these two I found extremely compelling!


    - "Record of a Spaceborn Few" by Becky Chambers"

    Hmmm, I've got the first of the series on my library reserve list, the
    only copies are either missing or overdue so goodness knows if any will
    ever turn up.

    If you can get a copy of these, I definitely recommend it! All four
    books were absolutely fantastic. The first one, "The Long Way to a Small
    Angry Planet" is her first novel, but when I first read it it didn't
    feel like a first book to me. That is, until I read the others, it's
    fantastic to see her coming into her own as a novelist throughout the
    series; if anything they get better and better! You can read these in
    any order too and it likely won't impact anything much, they may mention
    a character or two from a previous book, but other than that the stories
    aren't connected at all. The last one is a little bit more slow and
    reflective than the others, so depending on your style that may or may
    not be a good one to start with, otherwise I'd say "start anywhere" with
    these.

    Despite "Player of Games" and "Record of a Spaceborn Few" being two of
    my favorite books in general, I'm not normally all that into the "space
    opera" style of grand sci-fi narrative. If you want something a little
    more cozy and self-contained, try "A Psalm for the Wild-Built" which is
    also on my list (and is by the same author as "Spaceborn", Becky
    Chambers). It's a *very* different experience, but is quite possibly my favorite book, and doesn't fit quite as neatly into the sci-fi genre as
    these two do.

    —Sam

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mark Carroll@21:1/5 to Sam Whited on Fri Jan 3 06:20:49 2025
    On 26 Dec 2024, Sam Whited wrote:

    On 2024-12-24 11:52, Mark Carroll wrote:
    On 14 Dec 2024, Sam Whited wrote:
    - "The Player of Games" by Ian M. Banks

    This is one of my favorites among his science-fiction novels, though I recall it's also one that divides readers: people tend to rather like it or not. It's an interesting premise that he just about pulls off.

    Interesting, I was under the impression that this was the most widely acclaimed! You may be thinking of the first one, "Consider Phlebas",
    which I know some people recommend skipping and reading later on, but personally I loved that one too and thought it was a great introduction
    to the series. Or I could just be wrong. After the first two, I could
    take them or leave them, but these two I found extremely compelling!

    Thank you - ha, then I don't know which of us is right about which
    divides fans more. I should reread "Consider Phlebas" and "Look to
    Windward", it's been too long. "The Player of Games" I'd suggest is at
    least a little unusual among Banks' SF in its single focus on a not-SC protagonist on a specific SC mission, with the typical novel tending to
    be spread across a rather wider theater with characters acting more
    within their experience. For instance, I rather like "Use of Weapons"
    which is more of that ilk.

    - "Record of a Spaceborn Few" by Becky Chambers"

    Hmmm, I've got the first of the series on my library reserve list, the only copies are either missing or overdue so goodness knows if any will ever turn up.

    If you can get a copy of these, I definitely recommend it! All four
    books were absolutely fantastic.
    (snip)

    Thank you again, good to know! I'll make more of an effort then, worst
    case I end up picking up a cheap used copy from eBay or wherever; in
    similar fashion I just paid a princely £4 for a used copy of Zebrowski's "Macrolife" (also new to me) so I'll probably get there in the end.

    (snip)
    Despite "Player of Games" and "Record of a Spaceborn Few" being two of
    my favorite books in general, I'm not normally all that into the "space opera" style of grand sci-fi narrative. If you want something a little
    more cozy and self-contained, try "A Psalm for the Wild-Built" which is
    also on my list (and is by the same author as "Spaceborn", Becky
    Chambers).
    (snip)

    Haha, it looks as if Glasgow's library system will fail me there too but
    I'll give it a chance. I like to imagine that they have some means of
    noticing when a practically unavailable book is accumulating unfulfilled reservations so that they can think about buying another.

    Veering away from SF, two other of Iain Banks' books I rather like are
    "The Wasp Factory" and "Whit", I suppose both deal with a young person
    finding their way in the strange environment they grew up in. I'm not
    the best reader for his work, he'll do things like slip in puns that I
    don't notice because I engage more with what's literally in my face, I
    race along past the subtleties.

    -- Mark

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Bozo User@21:1/5 to Steve Hayes on Thu Jan 16 18:58:05 2025
    XPost: alt.books, alt.books.reviews

    On 2024-12-14, Steve Hayes <[email protected]> wrote:
    What are the best books you've read in 2024?

    Mine:

    87 Lewis, C.S. 1973. Prince Caspian.
    87 Towles, Amor. 2017. A Gentleman in Moscow.
    86 Poland, Marguerite. 2019. A Sin of Omission.
    85 Williams, Pip. 2022. The Dictionary of Lost Words.
    84 Holland, Tom. 2019. Dominion: The Making of the Western Mind.
    83 Jewell, Lisa. 2019. The Family Upstairs.
    82 de la Motte, Anders. 2020. Rites of Spring.
    82 Glyn, Patricia. 2006. Footing with Sir Richard's Ghost.
    81 King, Stephen. 2011. 11.22.63.
    81 Wain, John. 1974. A Winter in the Hills.

    Scores out of 100, so those over 80 got 5 stars on GoodReads

    Reviews of the (tied) top two here:

    Telmarines: the ultimate whenwes
    <https://methodius.blogspot.com/2024/09/telmarines-ultimate-whenwes.html>

    A Gentleman in Moscow -- the mind and face of Bolshevism
    <https://methodius.blogspot.com/2024/07/a-gentleman-in-moscow-mind-and-face-of.html>




    Colourless Tsukuru, Haruku Murakami, 2013. Well, it actually was my second read,
    as it's a book with several metaphors.

    --

    Excuse my English, I am not a native speaker. Thanks.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From x51@21:1/5 to Steve Hayes on Fri Jan 17 13:36:15 2025
    On Sat, 14 Dec 2024 09:51:19 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:

    What are the best books you've read in 2024?

    Mine:

    87 Lewis, C.S. 1973. Prince Caspian.
    87 Towles, Amor. 2017. A Gentleman in Moscow.
    86 Poland, Marguerite. 2019. A Sin of Omission.
    85 Williams, Pip. 2022. The Dictionary of Lost Words.
    84 Holland, Tom. 2019. Dominion: The Making of the Western Mind.
    83 Jewell, Lisa. 2019. The Family Upstairs.
    82 de la Motte, Anders. 2020. Rites of Spring.
    82 Glyn, Patricia. 2006. Footing with Sir Richard's Ghost.
    81 King, Stephen. 2011. 11.22.63.
    81 Wain, John. 1974. A Winter in the Hills.

    Scores out of 100, so those over 80 got 5 stars on GoodReads

    Reviews of the (tied) top two here:

    Telmarines: the ultimate whenwes <https://methodius.blogspot.com/2024/09/telmarines-ultimate-
    whenwes.html>

    A Gentleman in Moscow -- the mind and face of Bolshevism <https://methodius.blogspot.com/2024/07/a-gentleman-in-moscow-mind-and-
    face-of.html>


    Two Coil related books:

    * England's Hidden Reverse
    * Everything Keeps Dissolving

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mark Carroll@21:1/5 to Mark Carroll on Wed Jan 29 15:36:19 2025
    On 03 Jan 2025, Mark Carroll wrote:

    On 26 Dec 2024, Sam Whited wrote:

    On 2024-12-24 11:52, Mark Carroll wrote:
    On 14 Dec 2024, Sam Whited wrote:
    (snip)
    - "Record of a Spaceborn Few" by Becky Chambers"

    Hmmm, I've got the first of the series on my library reserve list, the
    only copies are either missing or overdue so goodness knows if any will >> > ever turn up.

    If you can get a copy of these, I definitely recommend it! All four
    books were absolutely fantastic.
    (snip)
    opera" style of grand sci-fi narrative. If you want something a little
    more cozy and self-contained, try "A Psalm for the Wild-Built" which is
    also on my list (and is by the same author as "Spaceborn", Becky
    Chambers).
    (snip)
    Haha, it looks as if Glasgow's library system will fail me there too but
    I'll give it a chance.
    (snip)

    It turned out that I was too pessimistic, perhaps unfairly: they
    delivered on both counts and now I have the sequels to each reserved.

    The latter's indeed rather cozy, a warm, quiet, gentle kind of story,
    and short enough to fit a lazy day. There certainly appears to be rather
    more meat in Chambers' "Wayfarers" series. Both have plenty of
    worldbuilding, imagination, and kinds of characters; I appreciate the
    efforts toward showing very different perspectives. The stories don't
    much challenge us on the science side but they make for good
    entertainment. In a sense, they're very human: it's the people who
    matter.

    A couple of things I appreciate based on what I'm personally enjoying
    right now: what sex there is fits the story and has the right amount
    described: we get enough of an idea without needing graphic detail.
    And, overall, there isn't much unpleasantness, a nice contrast to, say, Russell's "The Sparrow". At the moment, I could do with agreeable
    reading and there's even some light humor that doesn't fall flat.

    So, thank you indeed for the recommendation, my reading list had been
    running somewhat short.

    -- Mark

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mark Carroll@21:1/5 to Mark Carroll on Tue Feb 18 13:12:52 2025
    On 03 Jan 2025, Mark Carroll wrote:
    (snip)
    I just paid a princely £4 for a used copy of Zebrowski's
    "Macrolife" (also new to me)
    (snip)

    This turned out to be engaging enough to keep me reading, and the
    premise that the author's exploring is interesting (large space habitats
    that are self-sufficient and able to reproduce), it's decent for ideas.
    I wouldn't say the characters are strong and, goodness, the narrative's
    a bit heavy at times: there are long passages in which characters
    expound on or read about theoretical musings on this and that, basically explaining things to each other in detail rather than simply letting the
    story show us things. So, it needs a bit of forgiveness (or a good
    editor!) but I'm glad I bothered anyway. It reminds me of later in War
    and Peace when Tolstoy takes an occasional break from narrative to muse
    about, er, war or somesuch. I can't help but think Zebrowski a bit
    optimistic about advanced human society.

    Currently I am enjoying Adrian Tchaikovsky's "Alien Clay" which is
    engaging, agreeable, and rather less long and more easygoing. It also
    feels appropriately cynical in a way that the above didn't.

    -- Mark

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)