I haven't watched many Eurovision Song Contests live in recent
years, but we did always find the scoring the most entertaining
part when we did... so for "The Interstellar Song Contest" to
miss out that part of the merriment was unforgivable! However,
we did get OTT, fun, weird, camp, as well as a twist at the end,
to make this a decent parody of the real thing. In fact it was a
lot shorter and a probably a lot more entertaining than the real
thing too.
As a story "The Interstellar Song Contest" was actually quite
good and very enjoyable, but of course the episode got kind of
de-railed half way through when we got the Susan cameo... not
Susan Twist, but Susan Campbell (née Foreman). Heavily rumoured
in the usual online fan forums of course, but now fully
confirmed on screen. Wow! Carole Ann Forde is back, at 84 years
of age. Having her character call Ncuti's Doctor "Grandfather"
was a bit weird though. At least William Hartnell looked the
part!
As for the ending; flood -> rain -> Rani, was always a good guess
from the start. The only issue was whether it was too 'on the
nose' and one of RTD's red herrings, but no, it was indeed
exactly what it said on the tin and it was another reveal this
season that had also been heavily speculated on within fandom.
Clearly there is a leak somewhere within the BBC (!)
I'm not sure about the two Rani's thing, or Mrs Flood now
becoming an underling either. I was also hoping that
bi-generation was just a once-off in the show too... but RTD
likes to hammer down on his ideas so we've now seen
bi-generation twice in a few years, after never hearing of it
for sixty years! No doubt it will rear its head(s) once again in
the future now that it has become a 'thing'. For me it was silly
fun once, but a stupid gimmick twice.
There's only two episodes left of the season now, so now that
the unsurprising surprises have been revealed, what is RTD going
to throw at us in those two episodes? It's going to have to be
something BIG for a season finale... but will RTD get the
landing right or will it be a damp squib? One thing is for sure,
with RTD's subtle use of the word "mavity" in this episode,
'that' is definitely going to play a part!
Stay tuned folks. The end is near... but the moment has been
prepared for.
I haven't watched many Eurovision Song Contests live in recent
years, but we did always find the scoring the most entertaining
part when we did... so for "The Interstellar Song Contest" to
miss out that part of the merriment was unforgivable! However,
we did get OTT, fun, weird, camp, as well as a twist at the end,
to make this a decent parody of the real thing. In fact it was a
lot shorter and a probably a lot more entertaining than the real
thing too.
As a story "The Interstellar Song Contest" was actually quite
good and very enjoyable, but of course the episode got kind of
de-railed half way through when we got the Susan cameo... not
Susan Twist, but Susan Campbell (née Foreman). Heavily rumoured
in the usual online fan forums of course, but now fully
confirmed on screen. Wow! Carole Ann Forde is back, at 84 years
of age. Having her character call Ncuti's Doctor "Grandfather"
was a bit weird though. At least William Hartnell looked the
part!
As for the ending; flood -> rain -> Rani, was always a good guess
from the start. The only issue was whether it was too 'on the
nose' and one of RTD's red herrings, but no, it was indeed
exactly what it said on the tin and it was another reveal this
season that had also been heavily speculated on within fandom.
Clearly there is a leak somewhere within the BBC (!)
I'm not sure about the two Rani's thing, or Mrs Flood now
becoming an underling either. I was also hoping that
bi-generation was just a once-off in the show too... but RTD
likes to hammer down on his ideas so we've now seen
bi-generation twice in a few years, after never hearing of it
for sixty years! No doubt it will rear its head(s) once again in
the future now that it has become a 'thing'. For me it was silly
fun once, but a stupid gimmick twice.
There's only two episodes left of the season now, so now that
the unsurprising surprises have been revealed, what is RTD going
to throw at us in those two episodes? It's going to have to be
something BIG for a season finale... but will RTD get the
landing right or will it be a damp squib? One thing is for sure,
with RTD's subtle use of the word "mavity" in this episode,
'that' is definitely going to play a part!
Stay tuned folks. The end is near... but the moment has been
prepared for.
On 18/05/2025 20:59, Blueshirt wrote:
I haven't watched many Eurovision Song Contests live in recent
years, but we did always find the scoring the most entertaining
part when we did... so for "The Interstellar Song Contest" to
Good point. The entire story should have been about the voting being
totally racist, not about generating sympathy for a terrorist act which
was written as a parallel to the October 7 attacks against innocent
civilians going to a non-content in Israel including the performed of
this year's Israeli Eurovision entry.
miss out that part of the merriment was unforgivable! However,
we did get OTT, fun, weird, camp, as well as a twist at the end,
to make this a decent parody of the real thing. In fact it was a
lot shorter and a probably a lot more entertaining than the real
thing too.
That is simply not true. 6.7 million people on average watched the
Eurovision Final on BBC1 peaking at 7.9 million during the UK entry,
compared to 2.57 million that watched Doctor Whoke and about 5 million
that watched the FA Cup Final (on the BBC and ITV combined I think).
https://www.derehamtimes.co.uk/things-to-do/national/25172198.eurovision-song-contest-attracts-two-million-viewers-fa-cup-final/
As a story "The Interstellar Song Contest" was actually quite
good and very enjoyable, but of course the episode got kind of
de-railed half way through when we got the Susan cameo... not
Susan Twist, but Susan Campbell (née Foreman). Heavily rumoured
in the usual online fan forums of course, but now fully
confirmed on screen. Wow! Carole Ann Forde is back, at 84 years
of age. Having her character call Ncuti's Doctor "Grandfather"
was a bit weird though. At least William Hartnell looked the
part!
As for the ending; flood -> rain -> Rani, was always a good guess
from the start. The only issue was whether it was too 'on the
nose' and one of RTD's red herrings, but no, it was indeed
exactly what it said on the tin and it was another reveal this
season that had also been heavily speculated on within fandom.
Clearly there is a leak somewhere within the BBC (!)
Everyone figured it Mr Flood was going to be the Rani from when she
first appeared in Gatwa's first Christmas special and knew what a TARDIS
was.
I'm not sure about the two Rani's thing, or Mrs Flood now
becoming an underling either. I was also hoping that
bi-generation was just a once-off in the show too... but RTD
likes to hammer down on his ideas so we've now seen
bi-generation twice in a few years, after never hearing of it
for sixty years! No doubt it will rear its head(s) once again in
the future now that it has become a 'thing'. For me it was silly
fun once, but a stupid gimmick twice.
The use of bi-generation once again simply shows that this series is not >Doctor Who and never will be accepted as such. It's a complete woke joke >along with the Timeless Child monster that has replaced the Doctor as
the main protagonist. We say evidence of that when Gatwa showed that he
was made of pure evil having to be stopped from torturing and murdering
the male terrorist instead of handing him over to justice. That's the
message of wokery. The woke don't believe in the law. The woke think
they are the law. The woke are complete imbeciles. Even Plato over 2400
years ago explicitly states that everyone must obey the law even if they >think it is unjust. The woke don't underhand that because they're self >centred tyrants just like the people Plato and ideology Plato dismantled
in Gorgias and The Republic.
Doctor Who ended in 2017.
There's only two episodes left of the season now, so now that
Two more chances for Gatwa to hold the record for the top 10 lowest
rating episodes of all time by pushing Jodie Whittaker out of the chart.
the unsurprising surprises have been revealed, what is RTD going
to throw at us in those two episodes? It's going to have to be
Pure shit just like he did with last season's finale.
something BIG for a season finale... but will RTD get the
landing right or will it be a damp squib? One thing is for sure,
with RTD's subtle use of the word "mavity" in this episode,
'that' is definitely going to play a part!
More evidence that this series is not Doctor Who.
Stay tuned folks. The end is near... but the moment has been
prepared for.
Doctor Who ended in 2017! It's time for RTD and others to recognise that.
--
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." -William Shatner
On 5/18/2025 14:59, Blueshirt wrote:
I haven't watched many Eurovision Song Contests live in recent
years, but we did always find the scoring the most entertaining
part when we did... so for "The Interstellar Song Contest" to
miss out that part of the merriment was unforgivable! However,
we did get OTT, fun, weird, camp, as well as a twist at the end,
to make this a decent parody of the real thing. In fact it was a
lot shorter and a probably a lot more entertaining than the real
thing too.
Although I know of Eurovision...and know that Austria won it this year,
I've never seen one, and I don't know enough about it to compare
Interstellar to it. So there were probably many subtle references that
I missed; I'm sure Graham Norton was one of them.
As a story "The Interstellar Song Contest" was actually quite
good and very enjoyable, but of course the episode got kind of
de-railed half way through when we got the Susan cameo... not
Susan Twist, but Susan Campbell (née Foreman). Heavily rumoured
in the usual online fan forums of course, but now fully
confirmed on screen. Wow! Carole Ann Forde is back, at 84 years
of age. Having her character call Ncuti's Doctor "Grandfather"
was a bit weird though. At least William Hartnell looked the
part!
I thought it was OK, if I was able to pick up on more of the Eurovision
stuff I might have a better opinion (or not).
I'm not sure about the two Rani's thing, or Mrs Flood now
becoming an underling either. I was also hoping that
bi-generation was just a once-off in the show too... but RTD
likes to hammer down on his ideas so we've now seen
bi-generation twice in a few years, after never hearing of it
for sixty years! No doubt it will rear its head(s) once again in
the future now that it has become a 'thing'. For me it was silly
fun once, but a stupid gimmick twice.
Same here. The first time it was used, I thought that the writers (read
RTD) got "stuck", and used it as a cheap way to get un-stuck. This >time....nope....this is just lazy writing rearing its ugly head again.
There's only two episodes left of the season now, so now that
the unsurprising surprises have been revealed, what is RTD going
to throw at us in those two episodes? It's going to have to be
something BIG for a season finale... but will RTD get the
landing right or will it be a damp squib?
If RTD stays true to form, it will be like last season's finale: part 1
is pretty good...but part 2 s*ts the bed.
--
Intelligence is no guarantee against being dead wrong.
--Carl Sagan
I haven't watched many Eurovision Song Contests live in recent
years, but we did always find the scoring the most entertaining
part when we did... so for "The Interstellar Song Contest" to
miss out that part of the merriment was unforgivable! However,
we did get OTT, fun, weird, camp, as well as a twist at the end,
to make this a decent parody of the real thing. In fact it was a
lot shorter and a probably a lot more entertaining than the real
thing too.
As a story "The Interstellar Song Contest" was actually quite
good and very enjoyable, but of course the episode got kind of
de-railed half way through when we got the Susan cameo... not
Susan Twist, but Susan Campbell (née Foreman). Heavily rumoured
in the usual online fan forums of course, but now fully
confirmed on screen. Wow! Carole Ann Forde is back, at 84 years
of age. Having her character call Ncuti's Doctor "Grandfather"
was a bit weird though. At least William Hartnell looked the
part!
I'm not sure about the two Rani's thing, or Mrs Flood now
becoming an underling either. I was also hoping that
bi-generation was just a once-off in the show too... but RTD
likes to hammer down on his ideas so we've now seen
bi-generation twice in a few years, after never hearing of it
for sixty years! No doubt it will rear its head(s) once again in
the future now that it has become a 'thing'. For me it was silly
fun once, but a stupid gimmick twice.
There's only two episodes left of the season now, so now that
the unsurprising surprises have been revealed, what is RTD going
to throw at us in those two episodes? It's going to have to be
something BIG for a season finale... but will RTD get the
landing right or will it be a damp squib?
I haven't watched many Eurovision Song Contests live in recent
years, but we did always find the scoring the most entertaining
part when we did...
so for "The Interstellar Song Contest" to
miss out that part of the merriment was unforgivable! However,
we did get OTT, fun, weird, camp, as well as a twist at the end,
to make this a decent parody of the real thing. In fact it was a
lot shorter and a probably a lot more entertaining than the real
thing too.
As a story "The Interstellar Song Contest" was actually quite
good and very enjoyable, but of course the episode got kind of
de-railed half way through when we got the Susan cameo... not
Susan Twist, but Susan Campbell (n�e Foreman). Heavily rumoured
in the usual online fan forums of course, but now fully
confirmed on screen. Wow! Carole Ann Forde is back, at 84 years
of age. Having her character call Ncuti's Doctor "Grandfather"
was a bit weird though. At least William Hartnell looked the
part!
As for the ending; flood -> rain -> Rani, was always a good guess
from the start. The only issue was whether it was too 'on the
nose' and one of RTD's red herrings, but no, it was indeed
exactly what it said on the tin and it was another reveal this
season that had also been heavily speculated on within fandom.
Clearly there is a leak somewhere within the BBC (!)
I'm not sure about the two Rani's thing, or Mrs Flood now
becoming an underling either. I was also hoping that
bi-generation was just a once-off in the show too... but RTD
likes to hammer down on his ideas so we've now seen
bi-generation twice in a few years, after never hearing of it
for sixty years! No doubt it will rear its head(s) once again in
the future now that it has become a 'thing'. For me it was silly
fun once, but a stupid gimmick twice.
There's only two episodes left of the season now, so now that
the unsurprising surprises have been revealed, what is RTD going
to throw at us in those two episodes? It's going to have to be
something BIG for a season finale... but will RTD get the
landing right or will it be a damp squib? One thing is for sure,
with RTD's subtle use of the word "mavity" in this episode,
'that' is definitely going to play a part!
Stay tuned folks. The end is near... but the moment has been
prepared for.
On 18/05/2025 20:59, Blueshirt wrote:
However, we did get OTT, fun, weird, camp, as well as a
twist at the end, to make this a decent parody of the real
thing. In fact it was a lot shorter and a probably a lot
more entertaining than the real thing too.
That is simply not true. 6.7 million people on average watched
the Eurovision Final on BBC1 peaking at 7.9 million during the
UK entry, compared to 2.57 million that watched Doctor Whoke
and about 5 million that watched the FA Cup Final (on the BBC
and ITV combined I think).
As for the ending; flood -> rain -> Rani, was always a good
guess from the start. The only issue was whether it was
too 'on the nose' and one of RTD's red herrings, but no,
it was indeed exactly what it said on the tin and it was
another reveal this season that had also been heavily
speculated on within fandom.
Everyone figured it Mr Flood was going to be the Rani from
when she first appeared in Gatwa's first Christmas special and
knew what a TARDIS was.
On 5/18/2025 14:59, Blueshirt wrote:
I haven't watched many Eurovision Song Contests live in recent
years, but we did always find the scoring the most entertaining
part when we did... so for "The Interstellar Song Contest" to
miss out that part of the merriment was unforgivable! However,
we did get OTT, fun, weird, camp, as well as a twist at the end,
to make this a decent parody of the real thing. In fact it was a
lot shorter and a probably a lot more entertaining than the real
thing too.
Although I know of Eurovision...and know that Austria won it this year,
I've never seen one, and I don't know enough about it to compare
Interstellar to it. So there were probably many subtle references that
I missed; I'm sure Graham Norton was one of them.
As a story "The Interstellar Song Contest" was actually quite
good and very enjoyable, but of course the episode got kind of
de-railed half way through when we got the Susan cameo... not
Susan Twist, but Susan Campbell (née Foreman). Heavily rumoured
in the usual online fan forums of course, but now fully
confirmed on screen. Wow! Carole Ann Forde is back, at 84 years
of age. Having her character call Ncuti's Doctor "Grandfather"
was a bit weird though. At least William Hartnell looked the
part!
I thought it was OK, if I was able to pick up on more of the Eurovision
stuff I might have a better opinion (or not).
I'm not sure about the two Rani's thing, or Mrs Flood now
becoming an underling either. I was also hoping that
bi-generation was just a once-off in the show too... but RTD
likes to hammer down on his ideas so we've now seen
bi-generation twice in a few years, after never hearing of it
for sixty years! No doubt it will rear its head(s) once again in
the future now that it has become a 'thing'. For me it was silly
fun once, but a stupid gimmick twice.
Same here. The first time it was used, I thought that the writers (read RTD) got "stuck", and used it as a cheap way to get un-stuck. This time....nope....this is just lazy writing rearing its ugly head again.
There's only two episodes left of the season now, so now that
the unsurprising surprises have been revealed, what is RTD going
to throw at us in those two episodes? It's going to have to be
something BIG for a season finale... but will RTD get the
landing right or will it be a damp squib?
If RTD stays true to form, it will be like last season's finale: part 1
is pretty good...but part 2 shits the bed.
And out of 10 you give this?
In message <[email protected]>, Blueshirt <[email protected]> writes
I haven't watched many Eurovision Song Contests live in
recent years, but we did always find the scoring the most
entertaining part when we did...
Me too. Before I stopped watching it altogether I used to skip
the songs and just start watching when I guessed that the
scoring was about to start. Even way back 50 years ago, most
of the songs were so dire that I can still remembered what a
shock it was when the then unknown ABBA performed "Waterloo"
and I thought "Wow, this is really good!"
I'm not sure about the two Rani's thing, or Mrs Flood now
becoming an underling either. I was also hoping that
bi-generation was just a once-off in the show too... but RTD
likes to hammer down on his ideas so we've now seen
bi-generation twice in a few years, after never hearing of it
for sixty years! No doubt it will rear its head(s) once
again in the future now that it has become a 'thing'. For me
it was silly fun once, but a stupid gimmick twice.
Not so bad as "mavity" being used again, though.
I now have a variant of a famous Who (as in the rock group,
not as in DW) song playing in my head: "Talking about
bi-generation".
There's only two episodes left of the season now, so now that
the unsurprising surprises have been revealed, what is RTD
going to throw at us in those two episodes? It's going to
have to be something BIG for a season finale... but will RTD
get the landing right or will it be a damp squib? One thing
is for sure, with RTD's subtle use of the word "mavity" in
this episode, 'that' is definitely going to play a part!
I assume we're going to get a two-parter dealing with how the
Doctor prevents the end of the world, which from the date for
it that was given within the episode would appear to be
scheduled for this weekend. I also assume that it's the Rani
who is trying to bring about Earth's destruction, though what
her motivation for that could be is hard to see.
The True Doctor wrote:
On 18/05/2025 20:59, Blueshirt wrote:
However, we did get OTT, fun, weird, camp, as well as a
twist at the end, to make this a decent parody of the real
thing. In fact it was a lot shorter and a probably a lot
more entertaining than the real thing too.
That is simply not true. 6.7 million people on average watched
the Eurovision Final on BBC1 peaking at 7.9 million during the
UK entry, compared to 2.57 million that watched Doctor Whoke
and about 5 million that watched the FA Cup Final (on the BBC
and ITV combined I think).
Just because they watched, doesn't mean they found it
entertaining... people stop and stare at car crashes.
You also make a habit of watching Doctor Who every week and say
it's garbage (backed up by your usual minus something rating) so
clearly by your own standards viewing doesn't equal
entertainment! Or are you going to shift the goal posts on that
one as well?
As for the ending; flood -> rain -> Rani, was always a good
guess from the start. The only issue was whether it was
too 'on the nose' and one of RTD's red herrings, but no,
it was indeed exactly what it said on the tin and it was
another reveal this season that had also been heavily
speculated on within fandom.
Everyone figured it Mr Flood was going to be the Rani from
when she first appeared in Gatwa's first Christmas special and
knew what a TARDIS was.
Everyone apart from you obviously.
It wasn't that long ago you were saying that Belinda was the
Rani because of Queen in Indian or something...
I'm sure I could find the post(s) if I could be bothered. ;-)
John Hall wrote:
In message <[email protected]>, Blueshirt
<[email protected]> writes
I haven't watched many Eurovision Song Contests live in
recent years, but we did always find the scoring the most
entertaining part when we did...
Me too. Before I stopped watching it altogether I used to skip
the songs and just start watching when I guessed that the
scoring was about to start. Even way back 50 years ago, most
of the songs were so dire that I can still remembered what a
shock it was when the then unknown ABBA performed "Waterloo"
and I thought "Wow, this is really good!"
I vaguely remember Waterloo, only because ABBA became so big...
but I do remember Johnny Logan (twice) and our other winners...
they were always on RTE singing those songs. Now, all kinds of
everything is more a description of the Eurovision Song
Contest's participants!
I'm not sure about the two Rani's thing, or Mrs Flood now
becoming an underling either. I was also hoping that
bi-generation was just a once-off in the show too... but RTD
likes to hammer down on his ideas so we've now seen
bi-generation twice in a few years, after never hearing of it
for sixty years! No doubt it will rear its head(s) once
again in the future now that it has become a 'thing'. For me
it was silly fun once, but a stupid gimmick twice.
Not so bad as "mavity" being used again, though.
Definitely a sign that we are in a alternate universe...
I now have a variant of a famous Who (as in the rock group,
not as in DW) song playing in my head: "Talking about
bi-generation".
It fits! :-)
There's only two episodes left of the season now, so now that
the unsurprising surprises have been revealed, what is RTD
going to throw at us in those two episodes? It's going to
have to be something BIG for a season finale... but will RTD
get the landing right or will it be a damp squib? One thing
is for sure, with RTD's subtle use of the word "mavity" in
this episode, 'that' is definitely going to play a part!
I assume we're going to get a two-parter dealing with how the
Doctor prevents the end of the world, which from the date for
it that was given within the episode would appear to be
scheduled for this weekend. I also assume that it's the Rani
who is trying to bring about Earth's destruction, though what
her motivation for that could be is hard to see.
The end of the world and how the Doctor gets back to the real
universe...a universe where gravity exists once again.
Expect some subtly from RTD with THAT one!!!
On 19/05/2025 13:21, Blueshirt wrote:
The end of the world and how the Doctor gets back to the real
universe...a universe where gravity exists once again.
Expect some subtly from RTD with THAT one!!!
If he was in a different universe then why doesn't he know
that from the references to mavity instead of gravity.
The only explanation is that he isn't real himself.
Remeber Doctor Who ended in 2017.
In message <[email protected]>, Blueshirt ><[email protected]> writes
I haven't watched many Eurovision Song Contests live in recent
years, but we did always find the scoring the most entertaining
part when we did...
Me too. Before I stopped watching it altogether I used to skip the songs
and just start watching when I guessed that the scoring was about to
start. Even way back 50 years ago, most of the songs were so dire that I
can still remembered what a shock it was when the then unknown ABBA
performed "Waterloo" and I thought "Wow, this is really good!"
so for "The Interstellar Song Contest" to
miss out that part of the merriment was unforgivable! However,
we did get OTT, fun, weird, camp, as well as a twist at the end,
to make this a decent parody of the real thing. In fact it was a
lot shorter and a probably a lot more entertaining than the real
thing too.
Yep.
As a story "The Interstellar Song Contest" was actually quite
good and very enjoyable, but of course the episode got kind of
de-railed half way through when we got the Susan cameo... not
Susan Twist, but Susan Campbell (n�e Foreman). Heavily rumoured
in the usual online fan forums of course, but now fully
confirmed on screen. Wow! Carole Ann Forde is back, at 84 years
of age. Having her character call Ncuti's Doctor "Grandfather"
was a bit weird though. At least William Hartnell looked the
part!
Though at 84 Carol Ann Ford still looks a lot younger than William
Hartnell did in his 60s.
As for the ending; flood -> rain -> Rani, was always a good guess
from the start. The only issue was whether it was too 'on the
nose' and one of RTD's red herrings, but no, it was indeed
exactly what it said on the tin and it was another reveal this
season that had also been heavily speculated on within fandom.
Clearly there is a leak somewhere within the BBC (!)
I'm not sure about the two Rani's thing, or Mrs Flood now
becoming an underling either. I was also hoping that
bi-generation was just a once-off in the show too... but RTD
likes to hammer down on his ideas so we've now seen
bi-generation twice in a few years, after never hearing of it
for sixty years! No doubt it will rear its head(s) once again in
the future now that it has become a 'thing'. For me it was silly
fun once, but a stupid gimmick twice.
Not so bad as "mavity" being used again, though.
I now have a variant of a famous Who (as in the rock group, not as in
DW) song playing in my head: "Talking about bi-generation".
There's only two episodes left of the season now, so now that
the unsurprising surprises have been revealed, what is RTD going
to throw at us in those two episodes? It's going to have to be
something BIG for a season finale... but will RTD get the
landing right or will it be a damp squib? One thing is for sure,
with RTD's subtle use of the word "mavity" in this episode,
'that' is definitely going to play a part!
I assume we're going to get a two-parter dealing with how the Doctor
prevents the end of the world, which from the date for it that was given >within the episode would appear to be scheduled for this weekend. I also >assume that it's the Rani who is trying to bring about Earth's
destruction, though what her motivation for that could be is hard to
see.
Stay tuned folks. The end is near... but the moment has been
prepared for.
:)
--
John Hall
"I look upon it, that he who does not mind his belly,
will hardly mind anything else."
Dr Samuel Johnson (1709-84)
The asswipe asked:^^^^^^^<-Paedophile talker noted
In article <cCxWP.307511$[email protected]>,
Hornplayer9599 <[email protected]>
Although I know of Eurovision...and know that Austria won it this year,
I've never seen one, and I don't know enough about it to compare
Interstellar to it. So there were probably many subtle references that
I missed; I'm sure Graham Norton was one of them.
As in the holograph?
Hologram.
IIRC a holograph is a type of mediaeval manuscript.
--
solar penguin
The Doctor wrote:
And out of 10 you give this?
There's no point in bothering... I already explained why.
On 19/05/2025 04:31, Hornplayer9599 wrote:
On 5/18/2025 14:59, Blueshirt wrote:
I haven't watched many Eurovision Song Contests live in recent
years, but we did always find the scoring the most entertaining
part when we did... so for "The Interstellar Song Contest" to
miss out that part of the merriment was unforgivable! However,
we did get OTT, fun, weird, camp, as well as a twist at the end,
to make this a decent parody of the real thing. In fact it was a
lot shorter and a probably a lot more entertaining than the real
thing too.
Although I know of Eurovision...and know that Austria won it this year,
I've never seen one, and I don't know enough about it to compare
Interstellar to it. So there were probably many subtle references that
I missed; I'm sure Graham Norton was one of them.
Graham Norton has been the UK's Eurovision commentator ever since Terry
Wogan quit after the farcical result of 2008 where he stated that
Kalomira should have won it for Greece with Secret Combination which
came 3rd instead of the rubbish that did actually win it due to
political voting.
Instead of representing Eurovision in that manner, showing the lifeforms >voting for their friends and neighbours instead of the actual songs, and
one planet recruiting singers from a different planet to sing their song
in order to get more votes (Kalomira is Georgian) the imbecilic and >illiterate DEI hire they recruited to write the episode decided to make
it into a story justifying terrorism to children by basing it on Hamas >attacking innocent civilians attending an Israeli pop-concert, and
attempting to justify that by saying Israel deserved it because of its >destruction of Palestine. moron!
As a story "The Interstellar Song Contest" was actually quite
good and very enjoyable, but of course the episode got kind of
de-railed half way through when we got the Susan cameo... not
Susan Twist, but Susan Campbell (née Foreman). Heavily rumoured
in the usual online fan forums of course, but now fully
confirmed on screen. Wow! Carole Ann Forde is back, at 84 years
of age. Having her character call Ncuti's Doctor "Grandfather"
was a bit weird though. At least William Hartnell looked the
part!
I thought it was OK, if I was able to pick up on more of the Eurovision
stuff I might have a better opinion (or not).
There was very little Eurovision stuff in it at all. It was an attempt
by a woke pervert to justify the Hamas terrorist attack on Israel and
the Manchester Arena bombing. What do you think all of the spectators
being sucked out of the arena was all about?
What they should have done was to represent the aliens all wearing
costumes similar to the national costumes of the European country that
take part in the Eurovision, but there was nothing European in character >about it at all. There should have been performers wearing lederhosen to >represent Austria and Germany, performers wearing horned Viking helmets
to represent the Scandinavian and Nordic block who all cross vote for
each other, performers in sombreros and dancing Flamenco to represent
Spain, performers in fustanellas to represent Greece, and singers eating >Spaghetti to represent Italy which is exactly what happened in this
year's competition where two of the songs parodied Italian culture to
the disdain of the Italians themselves. Instead the woke moron decided
to turn it into a gay fest.
There was no need to have any terrorists in it at all. Instead if the >degenerate, perverted, mentally ill woke writer had any clue about the >history of Eurovision which they obviously didn't they could have
paralleled the using of the start of the performance of the Portuguese >Eurovision entry as a signal to start the Carnation Revolution in
Portugal in 1974. They could have also merged it with Spanish dictator >General Franco rigging the result of the contest by bribing officials.
That would have made for a much better story that was actually connected
to the Eurovision Song Contest and it would have encouraged viewers to
learn the real history it was based on rather than encouraging children
to engage in homosexual acts.
I'm not sure about the two Rani's thing, or Mrs Flood now
becoming an underling either. I was also hoping that
bi-generation was just a once-off in the show too... but RTD
likes to hammer down on his ideas so we've now seen
bi-generation twice in a few years, after never hearing of it
for sixty years! No doubt it will rear its head(s) once again in
the future now that it has become a 'thing'. For me it was silly
fun once, but a stupid gimmick twice.
Same here. The first time it was used, I thought that the writers (read
RTD) got "stuck", and used it as a cheap way to get un-stuck. This
time....nope....this is just lazy writing rearing its ugly head again.
There's only two episodes left of the season now, so now that
the unsurprising surprises have been revealed, what is RTD going
to throw at us in those two episodes? It's going to have to be
something BIG for a season finale... but will RTD get the
landing right or will it be a damp squib?
If RTD stays true to form, it will be like last season's finale: part 1
is pretty good...but part 2 s*s the bed.
Doctor Whoke has been s*ing the bed for the past 8 years.
--
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." -William Shatner
John Hall wrote:
In message <[email protected]>, Blueshirt
<[email protected]> writes
I haven't watched many Eurovision Song Contests live in
recent years, but we did always find the scoring the most
entertaining part when we did...
Me too. Before I stopped watching it altogether I used to skip
the songs and just start watching when I guessed that the
scoring was about to start. Even way back 50 years ago, most
of the songs were so dire that I can still remembered what a
shock it was when the then unknown ABBA performed "Waterloo"
and I thought "Wow, this is really good!"
I vaguely remember Waterloo, only because ABBA became so big...
but I do remember Johnny Logan (twice) and our other winners...
they were always on RTE singing those songs. Now, all kinds of
everything is more a description of the Eurovision Song
Contest's participants!
I'm not sure about the two Rani's thing, or Mrs Flood now
becoming an underling either. I was also hoping that
bi-generation was just a once-off in the show too... but RTD
likes to hammer down on his ideas so we've now seen
bi-generation twice in a few years, after never hearing of it
for sixty years! No doubt it will rear its head(s) once
again in the future now that it has become a 'thing'. For me
it was silly fun once, but a stupid gimmick twice.
Not so bad as "mavity" being used again, though.
Definitely a sign that we are in a alternate universe...
I now have a variant of a famous Who (as in the rock group,
not as in DW) song playing in my head: "Talking about
bi-generation".
It fits! :-)
There's only two episodes left of the season now, so now that
the unsurprising surprises have been revealed, what is RTD
going to throw at us in those two episodes? It's going to
have to be something BIG for a season finale... but will RTD
get the landing right or will it be a damp squib? One thing
is for sure, with RTD's subtle use of the word "mavity" in
this episode, 'that' is definitely going to play a part!
I assume we're going to get a two-parter dealing with how the
Doctor prevents the end of the world, which from the date for
it that was given within the episode would appear to be
scheduled for this weekend. I also assume that it's the Rani
who is trying to bring about Earth's destruction, though what
her motivation for that could be is hard to see.
The end of the world and how the Doctor gets back to the real
universe...a universe where gravity exists once again.
Expect some subtly from RTD with THAT one!!!
On 19/05/2025 13:21, Blueshirt wrote:
John Hall wrote:
In message <[email protected]>, Blueshirt
<[email protected]> writes
I haven't watched many Eurovision Song Contests live in
recent years, but we did always find the scoring the most
entertaining part when we did...
Me too. Before I stopped watching it altogether I used to skip
the songs and just start watching when I guessed that the
scoring was about to start. Even way back 50 years ago, most
of the songs were so dire that I can still remembered what a
shock it was when the then unknown ABBA performed "Waterloo"
and I thought "Wow, this is really good!"
I vaguely remember Waterloo, only because ABBA became so big...
but I do remember Johnny Logan (twice) and our other winners...
they were always on RTE singing those songs. Now, all kinds of
everything is more a description of the Eurovision Song
Contest's participants!
I'm not sure about the two Rani's thing, or Mrs Flood now
becoming an underling either. I was also hoping that
bi-generation was just a once-off in the show too... but RTD
likes to hammer down on his ideas so we've now seen
bi-generation twice in a few years, after never hearing of it
for sixty years! No doubt it will rear its head(s) once
again in the future now that it has become a 'thing'. For me
it was silly fun once, but a stupid gimmick twice.
Not so bad as "mavity" being used again, though.
Definitely a sign that we are in a alternate universe...
I now have a variant of a famous Who (as in the rock group,
not as in DW) song playing in my head: "Talking about
bi-generation".
It fits! :-)
There's only two episodes left of the season now, so now that
the unsurprising surprises have been revealed, what is RTD
going to throw at us in those two episodes? It's going to
have to be something BIG for a season finale... but will RTD
get the landing right or will it be a damp squib? One thing
is for sure, with RTD's subtle use of the word "mavity" in
this episode, 'that' is definitely going to play a part!
I assume we're going to get a two-parter dealing with how the
Doctor prevents the end of the world, which from the date for
it that was given within the episode would appear to be
scheduled for this weekend. I also assume that it's the Rani
who is trying to bring about Earth's destruction, though what
her motivation for that could be is hard to see.
The end of the world and how the Doctor gets back to the real
universe...a universe where gravity exists once again.
Expect some subtly from RTD with THAT one!!!
If he was in a different universe then why doesn't he know that from the >references to mavity instead of gravity. The only explanation is that he >isn't real himself. Remember Doctor Who ended in 2017.
--
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." -William Shatner
The True Doctor wrote:
I am now thinking that the Indian Rani is going to be
Belinda's mum. Why haven't we ever seen her even in flashback?
The Rani could well be related to Belinda, that wouldn't
surprise me at all. There does seem to be some sort of an Indian
theme going on... in fact, she could also be related to our old
mate Isaac. After all, he was there at the start of the "mavity"
thing!
The True Doctor wrote:
On 19/05/2025 13:21, Blueshirt wrote:
The end of the world and how the Doctor gets back to the real
universe...a universe where gravity exists once again.
Expect some subtly from RTD with THAT one!!!
If he was in a different universe then why doesn't he know
that from the references to mavity instead of gravity.
Taking a wild guess... I think RTD will have some sort of an
explanation for that coming soon.
The only explanation is that he isn't real himself.
Breaking news: The Doctor isn't real!!! :-)
But, in-universe, Ncuti's Doctor could be the faux Doctor in
an alternate universe, with the real Doctor left behind in the
'real' one after the battle with the Toymaker... or something...
? ? ?
Remeber Doctor Who ended in 2017.
Wouldn't it be funny if Jo Martin's Doctor turned out to be the
'real' Doctor in the proper universe (gravity) and she wasn't
pre-Hartnell at all!
In article <100f8vl$1j4i5$[email protected]>,
The True Doctor <[email protected]_SPAM> wrote:
On 19/05/2025 12:53, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
On 18/05/2025 20:59, Blueshirt wrote:
However, we did get OTT, fun, weird, camp, as well as a
twist at the end, to make this a decent parody of the real
thing. In fact it was a lot shorter and a probably a lot
more entertaining than the real thing too.
That is simply not true. 6.7 million people on average watched
the Eurovision Final on BBC1 peaking at 7.9 million during the
UK entry, compared to 2.57 million that watched Doctor Whoke
and about 5 million that watched the FA Cup Final (on the BBC
and ITV combined I think).
Just because they watched, doesn't mean they found it
entertaining... people stop and stare at car crashes.
They must have found it entertaining because it started at 8pm and it
didn't end until long after midnight and still averaged 6.7 million
compared to virtually no one watching the competition on ITV who had to
move BGT to Sunday. People aren't going to keep watching for over 4
hours half of which was a the scoring unless they were entertained.
You also make a habit of watching Doctor Who every week and say
it's garbage (backed up by your usual minus something rating) so
Doctor Who ended in 2017.
clearly by your own standards viewing doesn't equal
entertainment! Or are you going to shift the goal posts on that
one as well?
You are the one shifting the goalposts and you don't have the faintest
clue how to understand statistics.
As for the ending; flood -> rain -> Rani, was always a good
guess from the start. The only issue was whether it was
too 'on the nose' and one of RTD's red herrings, but no,
it was indeed exactly what it said on the tin and it was
another reveal this season that had also been heavily
speculated on within fandom.
Everyone figured it Mr Flood was going to be the Rani from
when she first appeared in Gatwa's first Christmas special and
knew what a TARDIS was.
Everyone apart from you obviously.
I stated she was the Rani at the time of the episode.
It wasn't that long ago you were saying that Belinda was theShe still could be. The Rani can regenerate.
Rani because of Queen in Indian or something...
I'm sure I could find the post(s) if I could be bothered. ;-)
I am now thinking that the Indian Rani is going to be Belinda's mum. Why
haven't we ever seen her even in flashback?
OR looks like her. And being the Doctor's date ...
the imbecilic and illiterate DEI hire they recruited to write the
episode decided to make it into a story justifying terrorism to children <snip>
In message <100f654$1j4i5$[email protected]>, The True Doctor <[email protected]_SPAM> writes
<snip>
the imbecilic and illiterate DEI hire they recruited to write the<snip>
episode decided to make it into a story justifying terrorism to children
The only snag with this idea being that the story did NOT try to justify terrorism to children - or indeed terrorism, to anyone.
On 19/05/2025 14:31, Blueshirt wrote:
But, in-universe, Ncuti's Doctor could be the faux Doctor in
an alternate universe, with the real Doctor left behind in
the 'real' universe after the battle with the Toymaker...
or something...
Wouldn't it be funny if Jo Martin's Doctor turned out to be
the 'real' Doctor in the proper universe (gravity) and she
wasn't pre-Hartnell at all!
It would be an improvement to her being the Timeless Child
monster. Capaldi regenerates into Jo Martin and Whittaker and
Gatwa are both erased.
John Hall wrote:
In message <100f654$1j4i5$[email protected]>, The True Doctor >><[email protected]_SPAM> writes
<snip>
the imbecilic and illiterate DEI hire they recruited to write the >>>episode decided to make it into a story justifying terrorism to children<snip>
The only snag with this idea being that the story did NOT try to
justify terrorism to children - or indeed terrorism, to anyone.
was it supposed too
On 19/05/2025 14:31, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
On 19/05/2025 13:21, Blueshirt wrote:
The end of the world and how the Doctor gets back to the real
universe...a universe where gravity exists once again.
Expect some subtly from RTD with THAT one!!!
If he was in a different universe then why doesn't he know
that from the references to mavity instead of gravity.
Taking a wild guess... I think RTD will have some sort of an
explanation for that coming soon.
The only explanation is that he isn't real himself.
Breaking news: The Doctor isn't real!!! :-)
But, in-universe, Ncuti's Doctor could be the faux Doctor in
an alternate universe, with the real Doctor left behind in the
'real' one after the battle with the Toymaker... or something...
? ? ?
Remeber Doctor Who ended in 2017.
Wouldn't it be funny if Jo Martin's Doctor turned out to be the
'real' Doctor in the proper universe (gravity) and she wasn't
pre-Hartnell at all!
It would be an improvement to her being the Timeless Child monster.
Capaldi regenerates into Jo Martin and Whittaker and Gatwa are both erased.
--
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." -William Shatner
On 19/05/2025 15:20, The Doctor wrote:
In article <100f8vl$1j4i5$[email protected]>,
The True Doctor <[email protected]_SPAM> wrote:
On 19/05/2025 12:53, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
On 18/05/2025 20:59, Blueshirt wrote:
However, we did get OTT, fun, weird, camp, as well as a
twist at the end, to make this a decent parody of the real
thing. In fact it was a lot shorter and a probably a lot
more entertaining than the real thing too.
That is simply not true. 6.7 million people on average watched
the Eurovision Final on BBC1 peaking at 7.9 million during the
UK entry, compared to 2.57 million that watched Doctor Whoke
and about 5 million that watched the FA Cup Final (on the BBC
and ITV combined I think).
Just because they watched, doesn't mean they found it
entertaining... people stop and stare at car crashes.
They must have found it entertaining because it started at 8pm and it
didn't end until long after midnight and still averaged 6.7 million
compared to virtually no one watching the competition on ITV who had to
move BGT to Sunday. People aren't going to keep watching for over 4
hours half of which was a the scoring unless they were entertained.
You also make a habit of watching Doctor Who every week and say
it's garbage (backed up by your usual minus something rating) so
Doctor Who ended in 2017.
clearly by your own standards viewing doesn't equal
entertainment! Or are you going to shift the goal posts on that
one as well?
You are the one shifting the goalposts and you don't have the faintest
clue how to understand statistics.
As for the ending; flood -> rain -> Rani, was always a good
guess from the start. The only issue was whether it was
too 'on the nose' and one of RTD's red herrings, but no,
it was indeed exactly what it said on the tin and it was
another reveal this season that had also been heavily
speculated on within fandom.
Everyone figured it Mr Flood was going to be the Rani from
when she first appeared in Gatwa's first Christmas special and
knew what a TARDIS was.
Everyone apart from you obviously.
I stated she was the Rani at the time of the episode.
It wasn't that long ago you were saying that Belinda was theShe still could be. The Rani can regenerate.
Rani because of Queen in Indian or something...
I'm sure I could find the post(s) if I could be bothered. ;-)
I am now thinking that the Indian Rani is going to be Belinda's mum. Why >>> haven't we ever seen her even in flashback?
OR looks like her. And being the Doctor's date ...
Gatwa wants her to whistle up his arse and he will start singing.
--
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." -William Shatner
In message <100f654$1j4i5$[email protected]>, The True Doctor ><[email protected]_SPAM> writes
<snip>
the imbecilic and illiterate DEI hire they recruited to write the
episode decided to make it into a story justifying terrorism to children ><snip>
The only snag with this idea being that the story did NOT try to justify >terrorism to children - or indeed terrorism, to anyone.
--
John Hall
"I look upon it, that he who does not mind his belly,
will hardly mind anything else."
Dr Samuel Johnson (1709-84)
The True Doctor wrote:
On 19/05/2025 14:31, Blueshirt wrote:
But, in-universe, Ncuti's Doctor could be the faux Doctor in
an alternate universe, with the real Doctor left behind in
the 'real' universe after the battle with the Toymaker...
or something...
Wouldn't it be funny if Jo Martin's Doctor turned out to be
the 'real' Doctor in the proper universe (gravity) and she
wasn't pre-Hartnell at all!
It would be an improvement to her being the Timeless Child
monster. Capaldi regenerates into Jo Martin and Whittaker and
Gatwa are both erased.
Your best mate wouldn't approve of THAT!!!
I think it would actually be quite interesting though...
On 19/05/2025 18:20, John Hall wrote:
In message <100f654$1j4i5$[email protected]>, The True Doctor
<[email protected]_SPAM> writes
<snip>
the imbecilic and illiterate DEI hire they recruited to write the<snip>
episode decided to make it into a story justifying terrorism to children
The only snag with this idea being that the story did NOT try to justify
terrorism to children - or indeed terrorism, to anyone.
Urm yes it did. It made terrorism into a choice between two evils, that
of the terrorists, and that of the Corporation. The ending which
featured the performance of a political song against the Corporation by
a same species friend of the terrorists signalled that the audience
should choose terrorism as being the lesser of the two evils, capitalism >being the biggest evil of all.
And decent writer with a moral compass would have made the terrorists
pure evil, with their cause indicated to be completely unjustified and >deserving of no sympathy whatsoever.
--
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." -William Shatner
I haven't watched many Eurovision Song Contests live in recent
years, but we did always find the scoring the most entertaining
part when we did... so for "The Interstellar Song Contest" to
miss out that part of the merriment was unforgivable!
Wow! Carole Ann Forde is back, at 84 years of age. Having her
character call Ncuti's Doctor "Grandfather" was a bit weird though.
At least William Hartnell looked the part!
I'm not sure about the two Rani's thing, or Mrs Flood now
becoming an underling either.
I was also hoping that bi-generation was just a once-off in the
show too... but RTD likes to hammer down on his ideas so we've now
seen bi-generation twice in a few years, after never hearing of it
for sixty years! No doubt it will rear its head(s) once again in
the future now that it has become a 'thing'. For me it was silly
fun once, but a stupid gimmick twice.
There's only two episodes left of the season now, so now that
the unsurprising surprises have been revealed, what is RTD going
to throw at us in those two episodes?
One thing is for sure, with RTD's subtle use of the word "mavity" in
this episode, 'that' is definitely going to play a part!
On 26.05.25, Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
Not much to say beyond: I like it!
The villain reminds me of a villain from the Highlander TV series,
Byron. Very similar face, or expressions/manners.
Susan, nice!
Finally some genius Doctor fiddling with stuff!
The Rani? But she would recognize the blue box!
I haven't watched many Eurovision Song Contests live in recent
years, but we did always find the scoring the most entertaining
part when we did... so for "The Interstellar Song Contest" to
miss out that part of the merriment was unforgivable!
What happens during the scoring?
I hope it's not some dreadful dragged out boring procedure. If yes, then >that's good to leave out!
[Susan]
Wow! Carole Ann Forde is back, at 84 years of age. Having her
character call Ncuti's Doctor "Grandfather" was a bit weird though.
At least William Hartnell looked the part!
Nah, not weird at all. :)
I'm not sure about the two Rani's thing, or Mrs Flood now
becoming an underling either.
Yeah, that was weird. I'd expect her to smack the younger looking one
and tell her to take her place.
I was also hoping that bi-generation was just a once-off in the
show too... but RTD likes to hammer down on his ideas so we've now
seen bi-generation twice in a few years, after never hearing of it
for sixty years! No doubt it will rear its head(s) once again in
the future now that it has become a 'thing'. For me it was silly
fun once, but a stupid gimmick twice.
I don't mind it. Maybe if it had kept the 11th Doctor around in the >background, I'd reject the whole idea, but it keeps 10/14 around
forever, yay!
Also, maybe they can finally come up with an explanation where the lady >Doctor's Master came from - some bi-generation ages ago. (I recall
asking where he came from here some time ago, I don't remember a
satisfactory explanation.)
There's only two episodes left of the season now, so now that
the unsurprising surprises have been revealed, what is RTD going
to throw at us in those two episodes?
Going to watch the next one right away! Hah, maybe it's a good thing
that I didn't feel like watching this one last week.
One thing is for sure, with RTD's subtle use of the word "mavity" in
this episode, 'that' is definitely going to play a part!
I think you should have typed "subtle". ;P
No rating?
--
Mickmane
On 26.05.25, Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
Not much to say beyond: I like it!
I haven't watched many Eurovision Song Contests live in
recent years, but we did always find the scoring the most
entertaining part when we did... so for "The Interstellar
Song Contest" to miss out that part of the merriment was
unforgivable!
What happens during the scoring?
Mickmane wrote:
On 26.05.25, Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
Not much to say beyond: I like it!
That's good enough.
I haven't watched many Eurovision Song Contests live in
recent years, but we did always find the scoring the most
entertaining part when we did... so for "The Interstellar
Song Contest" to miss out that part of the merriment was
unforgivable!
What happens during the scoring?
The scoring can be very entertaining... lots of votes handed out
for a variety of reasons, many of them completely unconnected to
the quality of the song.
I mean, you don't think Ukraine just happened to have the best
song the same year that they was invaded by Russia, do you? ;-)
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