• Doctor Who S15/S2 - Ep 4: Lucky Day

    From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 3 13:06:27 2025
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    "Lucky Day" is this season's Doctor-lite episode and without the
    Doctor around it becomes a chapter in the "Adventures of Ruby
    Sunday"... which basically means, it's companion soap opera
    time; Ruby gets a boyfriend (Conrad), her Mum(s) and Gran are
    happy for her and all is looking rosy as the two of them head
    off for a weekend away in the country. Conrad even carries
    Ruby's bag for her when they get off the bus. A nice looking guy
    and a gentleman too. What could possibly go wrong?


    [SPOILERS]


    Yes, we all knew that Conrad was going to be a bit of a
    bastard... Poor Ruby. As if being an ex-companion of the Doctor
    wasn't traumatic enough for her whilst she tries to adapt back
    to a normal life in London without the Doctor, now she goes and
    falls for a hot guy that was only faking his interest in her.
    Ain't life a bitch baby?! The moral of the story is, beware of
    toxic masculinity... it'll only lead you astray!

    Oh, and beware of fake news too... we all know about that one
    don't we? So never believe what they tell you. It's all a
    conspiracy! #DemandTheTruth

    "Lucky day" was almost an epilogue to last season by using Ruby
    and not the current companion, as well as being a [kind of]
    prequel setting up "The War Between the Land and the Sea" (Also
    being co-written by Peter McTighe, who wrote this episode.) as
    the UNIT crew - Kate Stewart, Col Ibrahim and Shirley-Anne, will
    be featuring in that. I'm sure the line about Mel being away in
    Sydney to deal with "something in the harbour" was there for a
    reason too...

    I'm not even sure why we still get Doctor-lite episodes when
    "Doctor Who" seasons only have eight episodes now... it seems a
    bit of a waste to sideline the Doctor once a season now. It
    might have worked with "Blink" but that was part of a thirteen
    episode season. Now, eight episodes - usually seven stories -
    just isn't enough of a season to minimise the Doctor's role, IMO.

    Some minor points of note; Conrad knows of Belinda Chandra, the
    Doctor DIDN'T cry in this episode, Mrs Flood refers to herself
    as The Governor, and with her big bunch of keys is probably
    going to let Conrad out of jail... so it's possible the cad will
    be back later in the season. (I'd have just let the alien eat
    him, but that might have been a bit much for the BBC... "Doctor
    Who" is a family friendly show after all.)

    Overall "Lucky Day" was a good enough story once it got going,
    but in "Doctor Who" I want to see the Doctor and his actions
    drive the story... the tail shouldn't wag the dog. So I say,
    less social commentary, more Doctor!!!

    So my rating for "Lucky Day" is 6/10...

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sat May 3 13:20:55 2025
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    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    "Lucky Day" is this season's Doctor-lite episode and without the
    Doctor around it becomes a chapter in the "Adventures of Ruby
    Sunday"... which basically means, it's companion soap opera
    time; Ruby gets a boyfriend (Conrad), her Mum(s) and Gran are
    happy for her and all is looking rosy as the two of them head
    off for a weekend away in the country. Conrad even carries
    Ruby's bag for her when they get off the bus. A nice looking guy
    and a gentleman too. What could possibly go wrong?


    [SPOILERS]


    Yes, we all knew that Conrad was going to be a bit of a
    bastard... Poor Ruby. As if being an ex-companion of the Doctor
    wasn't traumatic enough for her whilst she tries to adapt back
    to a normal life in London without the Doctor, now she goes and
    falls for a hot guy that was only faking his interest in her.
    Ain't life a bitch baby?! The moral of the story is, beware of
    toxic masculinity... it'll only lead you astray!

    Oh, and beware of fake news too... we all know about that one
    don't we? So never believe what they tell you. It's all a
    conspiracy! #DemandTheTruth

    "Lucky day" was almost an epilogue to last season by using Ruby
    and not the current companion, as well as being a [kind of]
    prequel setting up "The War Between the Land and the Sea" (Also
    being co-written by Peter McTighe, who wrote this episode.) as
    the UNIT crew - Kate Stewart, Col Ibrahim and Shirley-Anne, will
    be featuring in that. I'm sure the line about Mel being away in
    Sydney to deal with "something in the harbour" was there for a
    reason too...

    I'm not even sure why we still get Doctor-lite episodes when
    "Doctor Who" seasons only have eight episodes now... it seems a
    bit of a waste to sideline the Doctor once a season now. It
    might have worked with "Blink" but that was part of a thirteen
    episode season. Now, eight episodes - usually seven stories -
    just isn't enough of a season to minimise the Doctor's role, IMO.

    Some minor points of note; Conrad knows of Belinda Chandra, the
    Doctor DIDN'T cry in this episode, Mrs Flood refers to herself
    as The Governor, and with her big bunch of keys is probably
    going to let Conrad out of jail... so it's possible the cad will
    be back later in the season. (I'd have just let the alien eat
    him, but that might have been a bit much for the BBC... "Doctor
    Who" is a family friendly show after all.)

    Overall "Lucky Day" was a good enough story once it got going,
    but in "Doctor Who" I want to see the Doctor and his actions
    drive the story... the tail shouldn't wag the dog. So I say,
    less social commentary, more Doctor!!!

    So my rating for "Lucky Day" is 6/10...

    6 is the starting bid .
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  • From The True Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sat May 3 21:39:38 2025
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    On 03/05/2025 14:06, Blueshirt wrote:
    "Lucky Day" is this season's Doctor-lite episode and without the
    Doctor around it becomes a chapter in the "Adventures of Ruby
    Sunday"... which basically means, it's companion soap opera
    time; Ruby gets a boyfriend (Conrad), her Mum(s) and Gran are
    happy for her and all is looking rosy as the two of them head
    off for a weekend away in the country. Conrad even carries
    Ruby's bag for her when they get off the bus. A nice looking guy
    and a gentleman too. What could possibly go wrong?


    [SPOILERS]


    Yes, we all knew that Conrad was going to be a bit of a
    bastard... Poor Ruby. As if being an ex-companion of the Doctor
    wasn't traumatic enough for her whilst she tries to adapt back
    to a normal life in London without the Doctor, now she goes and
    falls for a hot guy that was only faking his interest in her.
    Ain't life a bitch baby?! The moral of the story is, beware of
    toxic masculinity... it'll only lead you astray!

    Oh, and beware of fake news too... we all know about that one
    don't we? So never believe what they tell you. It's all a
    conspiracy! #DemandTheTruth

    "Lucky day" was almost an epilogue to last season by using Ruby
    and not the current companion, as well as being a [kind of]
    prequel setting up "The War Between the Land and the Sea" (Also
    being co-written by Peter McTighe, who wrote this episode.) as
    the UNIT crew - Kate Stewart, Col Ibrahim and Shirley-Anne, will
    be featuring in that. I'm sure the line about Mel being away in
    Sydney to deal with "something in the harbour" was there for a
    reason too...

    I'm not even sure why we still get Doctor-lite episodes when
    "Doctor Who" seasons only have eight episodes now... it seems a
    bit of a waste to sideline the Doctor once a season now. It
    might have worked with "Blink" but that was part of a thirteen
    episode season. Now, eight episodes - usually seven stories -
    just isn't enough of a season to minimise the Doctor's role, IMO.

    Some minor points of note; Conrad knows of Belinda Chandra, the
    Doctor DIDN'T cry in this episode, Mrs Flood refers to herself
    as The Governor, and with her big bunch of keys is probably
    going to let Conrad out of jail... so it's possible the cad will
    be back later in the season. (I'd have just let the alien eat
    him, but that might have been a bit much for the BBC... "Doctor
    Who" is a family friendly show after all.)

    Overall "Lucky Day" was a good enough story once it got going,
    but in "Doctor Who" I want to see the Doctor and his actions
    drive the story... the tail shouldn't wag the dog. So I say,
    less social commentary, more Doctor!!!


    It's not social commentary. It's the creation of a false narrative used
    to attack heterosexual men while those who are gay are allowed to get
    away with sexual harassment, toxic behaviour, and sexually grooming
    children. This is how these woke perverts work. One rule for them and
    another for everyone else.

    Men who are written as weak and socially inept are made into villains
    while disgusting gay perverts that constantly sexually harass others
    despite being told to stop and make disgusting comments about inviting
    their companions' mothers to whistle up their arses are made to look
    like heroes.

    Just look are the sick mentally ill writers writing this.

    So my rating for "Lucky Day" is 6/10...

    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
    stands for." -William Shatner

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to [email protected]_SPAM on Sat May 3 20:42:05 2025
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    In article <vv5uub$9sdi$[email protected]>,
    The True Doctor <[email protected]_SPAM> wrote:
    On 03/05/2025 14:06, Blueshirt wrote:
    "Lucky Day" is this season's Doctor-lite episode and without the
    Doctor around it becomes a chapter in the "Adventures of Ruby
    Sunday"... which basically means, it's companion soap opera
    time; Ruby gets a boyfriend (Conrad), her Mum(s) and Gran are
    happy for her and all is looking rosy as the two of them head
    off for a weekend away in the country. Conrad even carries
    Ruby's bag for her when they get off the bus. A nice looking guy
    and a gentleman too. What could possibly go wrong?


    [SPOILERS]


    Yes, we all knew that Conrad was going to be a bit of a
    bastard... Poor Ruby. As if being an ex-companion of the Doctor
    wasn't traumatic enough for her whilst she tries to adapt back
    to a normal life in London without the Doctor, now she goes and
    falls for a hot guy that was only faking his interest in her.
    Ain't life a bitch baby?! The moral of the story is, beware of
    toxic masculinity... it'll only lead you astray!

    Oh, and beware of fake news too... we all know about that one
    don't we? So never believe what they tell you. It's all a
    conspiracy! #DemandTheTruth

    "Lucky day" was almost an epilogue to last season by using Ruby
    and not the current companion, as well as being a [kind of]
    prequel setting up "The War Between the Land and the Sea" (Also
    being co-written by Peter McTighe, who wrote this episode.) as
    the UNIT crew - Kate Stewart, Col Ibrahim and Shirley-Anne, will
    be featuring in that. I'm sure the line about Mel being away in
    Sydney to deal with "something in the harbour" was there for a
    reason too...

    I'm not even sure why we still get Doctor-lite episodes when
    "Doctor Who" seasons only have eight episodes now... it seems a
    bit of a waste to sideline the Doctor once a season now. It
    might have worked with "Blink" but that was part of a thirteen
    episode season. Now, eight episodes - usually seven stories -
    just isn't enough of a season to minimise the Doctor's role, IMO.

    Some minor points of note; Conrad knows of Belinda Chandra, the
    Doctor DIDN'T cry in this episode, Mrs Flood refers to herself
    as The Governor, and with her big bunch of keys is probably
    going to let Conrad out of jail... so it's possible the cad will
    be back later in the season. (I'd have just let the alien eat
    him, but that might have been a bit much for the BBC... "Doctor
    Who" is a family friendly show after all.)

    Overall "Lucky Day" was a good enough story once it got going,
    but in "Doctor Who" I want to see the Doctor and his actions
    drive the story... the tail shouldn't wag the dog. So I say,
    less social commentary, more Doctor!!!


    It's not social commentary. It's the creation of a false narrative used
    to attack heterosexual men while those who are gay are allowed to get
    away with sexual harassment, toxic behaviour, and sexually grooming
    children. This is how these woke perverts work. One rule for them and
    another for everyone else.

    Men who are written as weak and socially inept are made into villains
    while disgusting gay perverts that constantly sexually harass others
    despite being told to stop and make disgusting comments about inviting
    their companions' mothers to whistle up their arses are made to look
    like heroes.

    Just look are the sick mentally ill writers writing this.

    So my rating for "Lucky Day" is 6/10...


    And the nutbar styled Farage Conspiracy theorists.

    --
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    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." -William Shatner


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  • From The True Doctor@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Sat May 3 22:09:10 2025
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    On 03/05/2025 21:42, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <vv5uub$9sdi$[email protected]>,
    The True Doctor <[email protected]_SPAM> wrote:
    On 03/05/2025 14:06, Blueshirt wrote:
    "Lucky Day" is this season's Doctor-lite episode and without the
    Doctor around it becomes a chapter in the "Adventures of Ruby
    Sunday"... which basically means, it's companion soap opera
    time; Ruby gets a boyfriend (Conrad), her Mum(s) and Gran are
    happy for her and all is looking rosy as the two of them head
    off for a weekend away in the country. Conrad even carries
    Ruby's bag for her when they get off the bus. A nice looking guy
    and a gentleman too. What could possibly go wrong?


    [SPOILERS]


    Yes, we all knew that Conrad was going to be a bit of a
    bastard... Poor Ruby. As if being an ex-companion of the Doctor
    wasn't traumatic enough for her whilst she tries to adapt back
    to a normal life in London without the Doctor, now she goes and
    falls for a hot guy that was only faking his interest in her.
    Ain't life a bitch baby?! The moral of the story is, beware of
    toxic masculinity... it'll only lead you astray!

    Oh, and beware of fake news too... we all know about that one
    don't we? So never believe what they tell you. It's all a
    conspiracy! #DemandTheTruth

    "Lucky day" was almost an epilogue to last season by using Ruby
    and not the current companion, as well as being a [kind of]
    prequel setting up "The War Between the Land and the Sea" (Also
    being co-written by Peter McTighe, who wrote this episode.) as
    the UNIT crew - Kate Stewart, Col Ibrahim and Shirley-Anne, will
    be featuring in that. I'm sure the line about Mel being away in
    Sydney to deal with "something in the harbour" was there for a
    reason too...

    I'm not even sure why we still get Doctor-lite episodes when
    "Doctor Who" seasons only have eight episodes now... it seems a
    bit of a waste to sideline the Doctor once a season now. It
    might have worked with "Blink" but that was part of a thirteen
    episode season. Now, eight episodes - usually seven stories -
    just isn't enough of a season to minimise the Doctor's role, IMO.

    Some minor points of note; Conrad knows of Belinda Chandra, the
    Doctor DIDN'T cry in this episode, Mrs Flood refers to herself
    as The Governor, and with her big bunch of keys is probably
    going to let Conrad out of jail... so it's possible the cad will
    be back later in the season. (I'd have just let the alien eat
    him, but that might have been a bit much for the BBC... "Doctor
    Who" is a family friendly show after all.)

    Overall "Lucky Day" was a good enough story once it got going,
    but in "Doctor Who" I want to see the Doctor and his actions
    drive the story... the tail shouldn't wag the dog. So I say,
    less social commentary, more Doctor!!!


    It's not social commentary. It's the creation of a false narrative used
    to attack heterosexual men while those who are gay are allowed to get
    away with sexual harassment, toxic behaviour, and sexually grooming
    children. This is how these woke perverts work. One rule for them and
    another for everyone else.

    Men who are written as weak and socially inept are made into villains
    while disgusting gay perverts that constantly sexually harass others
    despite being told to stop and make disgusting comments about inviting
    their companions' mothers to whistle up their arses are made to look
    like heroes.

    Just look are the sick mentally ill writers writing this.

    So my rating for "Lucky Day" is 6/10...


    And the nutbar styled Farage Conspiracy theorists.

    The conspiracy theorists are those on the far left with their lies about
    man made climate change and attacks against heterosexual man based on
    lies invented by lesbian feminists, published in a comic, that weren't
    supposed to be taken seriously.

    Farage has the support of the majority of this country and is the only
    one standing up to these woke man hating, gender swapping,
    anti-heterosexual hypocritical bigots. He also now controls 10 County
    Councils.

    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
    stands for." -William Shatner

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to [email protected]_SPAM on Sat May 3 21:26:27 2025
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    In article <vv60lo$9sdi$[email protected]>,
    The True Doctor <[email protected]_SPAM> wrote:
    On 03/05/2025 21:42, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <vv5uub$9sdi$[email protected]>,
    The True Doctor <[email protected]_SPAM> wrote:
    On 03/05/2025 14:06, Blueshirt wrote:
    "Lucky Day" is this season's Doctor-lite episode and without the
    Doctor around it becomes a chapter in the "Adventures of Ruby
    Sunday"... which basically means, it's companion soap opera
    time; Ruby gets a boyfriend (Conrad), her Mum(s) and Gran are
    happy for her and all is looking rosy as the two of them head
    off for a weekend away in the country. Conrad even carries
    Ruby's bag for her when they get off the bus. A nice looking guy
    and a gentleman too. What could possibly go wrong?


    [SPOILERS]


    Yes, we all knew that Conrad was going to be a bit of a
    bastard... Poor Ruby. As if being an ex-companion of the Doctor
    wasn't traumatic enough for her whilst she tries to adapt back
    to a normal life in London without the Doctor, now she goes and
    falls for a hot guy that was only faking his interest in her.
    Ain't life a bitch baby?! The moral of the story is, beware of
    toxic masculinity... it'll only lead you astray!

    Oh, and beware of fake news too... we all know about that one
    don't we? So never believe what they tell you. It's all a
    conspiracy! #DemandTheTruth

    "Lucky day" was almost an epilogue to last season by using Ruby
    and not the current companion, as well as being a [kind of]
    prequel setting up "The War Between the Land and the Sea" (Also
    being co-written by Peter McTighe, who wrote this episode.) as
    the UNIT crew - Kate Stewart, Col Ibrahim and Shirley-Anne, will
    be featuring in that. I'm sure the line about Mel being away in
    Sydney to deal with "something in the harbour" was there for a
    reason too...

    I'm not even sure why we still get Doctor-lite episodes when
    "Doctor Who" seasons only have eight episodes now... it seems a
    bit of a waste to sideline the Doctor once a season now. It
    might have worked with "Blink" but that was part of a thirteen
    episode season. Now, eight episodes - usually seven stories -
    just isn't enough of a season to minimise the Doctor's role, IMO.

    Some minor points of note; Conrad knows of Belinda Chandra, the
    Doctor DIDN'T cry in this episode, Mrs Flood refers to herself
    as The Governor, and with her big bunch of keys is probably
    going to let Conrad out of jail... so it's possible the cad will
    be back later in the season. (I'd have just let the alien eat
    him, but that might have been a bit much for the BBC... "Doctor
    Who" is a family friendly show after all.)

    Overall "Lucky Day" was a good enough story once it got going,
    but in "Doctor Who" I want to see the Doctor and his actions
    drive the story... the tail shouldn't wag the dog. So I say,
    less social commentary, more Doctor!!!


    It's not social commentary. It's the creation of a false narrative used
    to attack heterosexual men while those who are gay are allowed to get
    away with sexual harassment, toxic behaviour, and sexually grooming
    children. This is how these woke perverts work. One rule for them and
    another for everyone else.

    Men who are written as weak and socially inept are made into villains
    while disgusting gay perverts that constantly sexually harass others
    despite being told to stop and make disgusting comments about inviting
    their companions' mothers to whistle up their arses are made to look
    like heroes.

    Just look are the sick mentally ill writers writing this.

    So my rating for "Lucky Day" is 6/10...


    And the nutbar styled Farage Conspiracy theorists.

    The conspiracy theorists are those on the far left with their lies about
    man made climate change and attacks against heterosexual man based on
    lies invented by lesbian feminists, published in a comic, that weren't >supposed to be taken seriously.

    Farage has the support of the majority of this country and is the only
    one standing up to these woke man hating, gender swapping,
    anti-heterosexual hypocritical bigots. He also now controls 10 County >Councils.


    I saw.

    Looks like bye Labour and CaUP.

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    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." -William Shatner


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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Mickmane on Sun May 4 10:35:20 2025
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    Mickmane wrote:

    On 04.05.25, Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:

    Yes, we all knew that Conrad was going to be a bit of a
    bastard...

    I didn't.

    It's TV... Nobody is THAT nice and smarmy without having some
    agenda.

    It's a trope! ;-)

    Poor Ruby. As if being an ex-companion of the Doctor
    wasn't traumatic enough for her whilst she tries to adapt
    back to a normal life in London without the Doctor, now she
    goes and falls for a hot guy that was only faking his
    interest in her. Ain't life a bitch baby?! The moral of the
    story is, beware of toxic masculinity... it'll only lead you
    astray!

    I didn't see hot, nor masculinity. Just some average a bit
    dumb looking dude.

    Oh, and beware of fake news too... we all know about that one
    don't we? So never believe what they tell you. It's all a
    conspiracy! #DemandTheTruth

    Yeah, Soap boxing, sigh. Reminded me of good old Quincy, where
    every episode was about one soap box or another.

    It's TV... There has to be a 'message' in everything!

    Just as there's always a twist at the end, there's always a
    message to get across.

    as well as being a [kind of] prequel setting up "The War
    Between the Land and the Sea"

    What? What did I miss?

    Nothing yet. Prequel means before...

    Stay tuned until November/December for the answer.

    Mrs Flood refers to herself as The Governor, and with her
    big bunch of keys is probably going to let Conrad out of
    jail...

    So she's posing as the governor of that prison right then. The
    episode was so stupid, her appearing in it even turned the
    whole Mrs Flood thing into something lame and boring. Who
    cares what she's up to? Mrs Flood mystery has been tainted by
    stupid episode.

    Maybe a new Time Lord villain - The Governor.

    Or she just likes watching "The Chase"?

    so it's possible the cad will be back later in the season.

    The cad?

    Conrad the cad... it has a certain ring to it, don't you think?

    So my rating for "Lucky Day" is 6/10...

    First thought, not another episode about some guy who met the
    doctor.

    Wandering around house with shriek, boring.

    Idiot being idiot for not taking antidote.

    Idiot revealed as being an even bigger idiot.

    Soap-boxing.

    Even Ruby and the nice people from UNIT couldn't save this
    episode. Can I give it a negative score? If not, 0/10. (Ruby +
    Unit 7, idiot idiot -9 at the least.)

    0/10 is legitimate.

    Not that I thought this episode was THAT bad, but I can see why
    a lot of people wouldn't like it.

    Imagine Belinda turning a corner, running into Donna, who asks
    "Have you seen the Doctor?", Belinda points to where new
    Doctor is, then speeds along to wherever she was going, runs
    into Doctor 10/14. "Who are you?" - "The Doctor."

    Wouldn't that be fun? :))

    There, now I'm grinning again. (Was the opposite after
    watching this episode.)

    Good or bad, keep smiling... this is the way.

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  • From Mickmane@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun May 4 11:49:00 2025
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    On 04.05.25, Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:

    "Lucky Day" is this season's Doctor-lite episode and without the
    Doctor around it becomes a chapter in the "Adventures of Ruby
    Sunday"... which basically means, it's companion soap opera
    time; Ruby gets a boyfriend (Conrad), her Mum(s) and Gran are
    happy for her and all is looking rosy as the two of them head
    off for a weekend away in the country. Conrad even carries
    Ruby's bag for her when they get off the bus. A nice looking guy
    and a gentleman too. What could possibly go wrong?

    [SPOILERS]

    Yes, we all knew that Conrad was going to be a bit of a
    bastard...

    I didn't.

    Poor Ruby. As if being an ex-companion of the Doctor
    wasn't traumatic enough for her whilst she tries to adapt back
    to a normal life in London without the Doctor, now she goes and
    falls for a hot guy that was only faking his interest in her.
    Ain't life a bitch baby?! The moral of the story is, beware of
    toxic masculinity... it'll only lead you astray!

    I didn't see hot, nor masculinity. Just some average a bit dumb looking
    dude.

    Oh, and beware of fake news too... we all know about that one
    don't we? So never believe what they tell you. It's all a
    conspiracy! #DemandTheTruth

    Yeah, Soap boxing, sigh. Reminded me of good old Quincy, where every
    episode was about one soap box or another.

    as well as being a [kind of] prequel setting up "The War Between the
    Land and the Sea"

    What? What did I miss?

    Probably a lot. Asked google something about Doctor Who yesterday, and
    found something about a 17th Doctor. What!?

    Some minor points of note; Conrad knows of Belinda Chandra,

    Yes, Belinda was there at the start of the episode when they met little
    Conrad. Doctor introduced them.

    But from what time was the Doctor supposed to be?

    the Doctor DIDN'T cry in this episode,

    Didn't have enough screen time, did he?

    Mrs Flood refers to herself as The Governor, and with her big bunch
    of keys is probably going to let Conrad out of jail...

    So she's posing as the governor of that prison right then. The episode
    was so stupid, her appearing in it even turned the _whole_ Mrs Flood
    thing into something lame and boring. Who cares what she's up to? Mrs
    Flood mystery has been tainted by stupid episode.

    so it's possible the cad will be back later in the season.

    The cad?

    So my rating for "Lucky Day" is 6/10...

    First thought, not another episode about some guy who met the doctor.

    Wandering around house with shriek, boring.

    Idiot being idiot for not taking antidote.

    Idiot revealed as being an even bigger idiot.

    Soap-boxing.

    Even Ruby and the nice people from UNIT couldn't save this episode. Can
    I give it a negative score? If not, 0/10. (Ruby + Unit 7, idiot idiot -9
    at the least.)

    Can we please have Doctor 10/14 and Donna's family run into new Doctor somewhere, also trying to get back to the same date? (We know they're
    doing trips in the duplicated TARDIS, after all.)

    Imagine Belinda turning a corner, running into Donna, who asks "Have you
    seen the Doctor?", Belinda points to where new Doctor is, then speeds
    along to wherever she was going, runs into Doctor 10/14. "Who are you?"
    - "The Doctor."

    Wouldn't that be fun? :))

    There, now I'm grinning again. (Was the opposite after watching this
    episode.)


    --

    Mickmane

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to solar penguin on Sun May 4 11:18:07 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    solar penguin wrote:


    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:

    Mickmane wrote:

    On 04.05.25, Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:

    Yes, we all knew that Conrad was going to be a bit of a
    bastard...

    I didn't.

    It's TV... Nobody is THAT nice and smarmy without having some
    agenda.

    They can be, if they’re going to die a tragic, noble death.

    That too. Unfortunately Conrad the Cad didn't get eaten by the
    monster in UNIT HQ.

    It's a trope! ;-)

    So is being too good for this world.

    Yeah, you watch a TV series and there's always a couple in a
    happy relationship... then when they start making plans for the
    future you know... BANG... one of them dies.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sun May 4 12:23:06 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    Mickmane wrote:

    On 04.05.25, Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:

    Yes, we all knew that Conrad was going to be a bit of a
    bastard...

    I didn't.

    It's TV... Nobody is THAT nice and smarmy without having some
    agenda.

    It's a trope! ;-)

    Poor Ruby. As if being an ex-companion of the Doctor
    wasn't traumatic enough for her whilst she tries to adapt
    back to a normal life in London without the Doctor, now she
    goes and falls for a hot guy that was only faking his
    interest in her. Ain't life a bitch baby?! The moral of the
    story is, beware of toxic masculinity... it'll only lead you
    astray!

    I didn't see hot, nor masculinity. Just some average a bit
    dumb looking dude.

    Oh, and beware of fake news too... we all know about that one
    don't we? So never believe what they tell you. It's all a
    conspiracy! #DemandTheTruth

    Yeah, Soap boxing, sigh. Reminded me of good old Quincy, where
    every episode was about one soap box or another.

    It's TV... There has to be a 'message' in everything!

    Just as there's always a twist at the end, there's always a
    message to get across.

    as well as being a [kind of] prequel setting up "The War
    Between the Land and the Sea"

    What? What did I miss?

    Nothing yet. Prequel means before...

    Stay tuned until November/December for the answer.

    Mrs Flood refers to herself as The Governor, and with her
    big bunch of keys is probably going to let Conrad out of
    jail...

    So she's posing as the governor of that prison right then. The
    episode was so stupid, her appearing in it even turned the
    whole Mrs Flood thing into something lame and boring. Who
    cares what she's up to? Mrs Flood mystery has been tainted by
    stupid episode.

    Maybe a new Time Lord villain - The Governor.

    Or she just likes watching "The Chase"?

    so it's possible the cad will be back later in the season.

    The cad?

    Conrad the cad... it has a certain ring to it, don't you think?

    So my rating for "Lucky Day" is 6/10...

    First thought, not another episode about some guy who met the
    doctor.

    Wandering around house with shriek, boring.

    Idiot being idiot for not taking antidote.

    Idiot revealed as being an even bigger idiot.

    Soap-boxing.

    Even Ruby and the nice people from UNIT couldn't save this
    episode. Can I give it a negative score? If not, 0/10. (Ruby +
    Unit 7, idiot idiot -9 at the least.)

    0/10 is legitimate.

    Not that I thought this episode was THAT bad, but I can see why
    a lot of people wouldn't like it.

    Imagine Belinda turning a corner, running into Donna, who asks
    "Have you seen the Doctor?", Belinda points to where new
    Doctor is, then speeds along to wherever she was going, runs
    into Doctor 10/14. "Who are you?" - "The Doctor."

    Wouldn't that be fun? :))

    There, now I'm grinning again. (Was the opposite after
    watching this episode.)

    Good or bad, keep smiling... this is the way.

    Still 4.33333333333/10 out of 3 drwho reviews.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Mickmane on Sun May 4 12:22:26 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <H0EhduTLczB@ATH>, Mickmane <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 04.05.25, Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:

    "Lucky Day" is this season's Doctor-lite episode and without the
    Doctor around it becomes a chapter in the "Adventures of Ruby
    Sunday"... which basically means, it's companion soap opera
    time; Ruby gets a boyfriend (Conrad), her Mum(s) and Gran are
    happy for her and all is looking rosy as the two of them head
    off for a weekend away in the country. Conrad even carries
    Ruby's bag for her when they get off the bus. A nice looking guy
    and a gentleman too. What could possibly go wrong?

    [SPOILERS]

    Yes, we all knew that Conrad was going to be a bit of a
    bastard...

    I didn't.

    Poor Ruby. As if being an ex-companion of the Doctor
    wasn't traumatic enough for her whilst she tries to adapt back
    to a normal life in London without the Doctor, now she goes and
    falls for a hot guy that was only faking his interest in her.
    Ain't life a bitch baby?! The moral of the story is, beware of
    toxic masculinity... it'll only lead you astray!

    I didn't see hot, nor masculinity. Just some average a bit dumb looking
    dude.

    Oh, and beware of fake news too... we all know about that one
    don't we? So never believe what they tell you. It's all a
    conspiracy! #DemandTheTruth

    Yeah, Soap boxing, sigh. Reminded me of good old Quincy, where every
    episode was about one soap box or another.

    as well as being a [kind of] prequel setting up "The War Between the
    Land and the Sea"

    What? What did I miss?

    Probably a lot. Asked google something about Doctor Who yesterday, and
    found something about a 17th Doctor. What!?

    Some minor points of note; Conrad knows of Belinda Chandra,

    Yes, Belinda was there at the start of the episode when they met little >Conrad. Doctor introduced them.

    But from what time was the Doctor supposed to be?

    the Doctor DIDN'T cry in this episode,

    Didn't have enough screen time, did he?

    Mrs Flood refers to herself as The Governor, and with her big bunch
    of keys is probably going to let Conrad out of jail...

    So she's posing as the governor of that prison right then. The episode
    was so stupid, her appearing in it even turned the _whole_ Mrs Flood
    thing into something lame and boring. Who cares what she's up to? Mrs
    Flood mystery has been tainted by stupid episode.

    so it's possible the cad will be back later in the season.

    The cad?

    So my rating for "Lucky Day" is 6/10...

    First thought, not another episode about some guy who met the doctor.

    Wandering around house with shriek, boring.

    Idiot being idiot for not taking antidote.

    Idiot revealed as being an even bigger idiot.

    Soap-boxing.

    Even Ruby and the nice people from UNIT couldn't save this episode. Can
    I give it a negative score? If not, 0/10. (Ruby + Unit 7, idiot idiot -9
    at the least.)

    Can we please have Doctor 10/14 and Donna's family run into new Doctor

    You mean 10/real 13

    somewhere, also trying to get back to the same date? (We know they're
    doing trips in the duplicated TARDIS, after all.)

    Imagine Belinda turning a corner, running into Donna, who asks "Have you
    seen the Doctor?", Belinda points to where new Doctor is, then speeds
    along to wherever she was going, runs into Doctor 10/14. "Who are you?"
    - "The Doctor."

    Wouldn't that be fun? :))

    There, now I'm grinning again. (Was the opposite after watching this >episode.)


    --

    Mickmane



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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun May 4 12:21:51 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <vv7cf7$1mhco$[email protected]>,
    solar penguin <[email protected]> wrote:
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:


    Overall "Lucky Day" was a good enough story once it got going,
    but in "Doctor Who" I want to see the Doctor and his actions
    drive the story... the tail shouldn't wag the dog. So I say,
    less social commentary, more Doctor!!!


    The social commentary has dated badly in the year or so
    since the script was first written.

    When you look at what ICE is now doing in the USA, this isn’t
    the time to tell viewers that anyone warning of the fascist
    overreach of government agencies is actually a delusional,
    lying crackpot!


    Are you a Communist in disguise SP?

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun May 4 12:25:57 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <vv7h9t$1qvmn$[email protected]>,
    solar penguin <[email protected]> wrote:

    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:

    Mickmane wrote:

    On 04.05.25, Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:

    Yes, we all knew that Conrad was going to be a bit of a
    bastard...

    I didn't.

    It's TV... Nobody is THAT nice and smarmy without having some
    agenda.

    They can be, if they’re going to die a tragic, noble death.


    It's a trope! ;-)


    So is being too good for this world.


    Getting ready for the next world?

    --
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sun May 4 12:26:27 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    solar penguin wrote:


    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:

    Mickmane wrote:

    On 04.05.25, Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:

    Yes, we all knew that Conrad was going to be a bit of a
    bastard...

    I didn't.

    It's TV... Nobody is THAT nice and smarmy without having some
    agenda.

    They can be, if they’re going to die a tragic, noble death.

    That too. Unfortunately Conrad the Cad didn't get eaten by the
    monster in UNIT HQ.


    It would have been justice.

    It's a trope! ;-)

    So is being too good for this world.

    Yeah, you watch a TV series and there's always a couple in a
    happy relationship... then when they start making plans for the
    future you know... BANG... one of them dies.


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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun May 4 13:02:12 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <vv7o7i$21343$[email protected]>,
    solar penguin <[email protected]> wrote:

    The asswipe asked:
    ^^^^^^^<-Paedophile talker noted

    In article <vv7cf7$1mhco$[email protected]>,
    solar penguin <[email protected]> wrote:
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:

    When you look at what ICE is now doing in the USA, this isn’t
    the time to tell viewers that anyone warning of the fascist
    overreach of government agencies is actually a delusional,
    lying crackpot!


    Are you a Communist in disguise SP?


    I’m not anything in disguise. What you see is what you get.


    You must count Arthur Scargill as a best friend SP!

    --
    solar penguin


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  • From Andy Leighton@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Sun May 4 16:07:44 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    On Sun, 4 May 2025 12:21:51 -0000 (UTC),
    The Doctor <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <vv7cf7$1mhco$[email protected]>,
    solar penguin <[email protected]> wrote:
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:


    Overall "Lucky Day" was a good enough story once it got going,
    but in "Doctor Who" I want to see the Doctor and his actions
    drive the story... the tail shouldn't wag the dog. So I say,
    less social commentary, more Doctor!!!


    The social commentary has dated badly in the year or so
    since the script was first written.

    When you look at what ICE is now doing in the USA, this isn’t
    the time to tell viewers that anyone warning of the fascist
    overreach of government agencies is actually a delusional,
    lying crackpot!

    Are you a Communist in disguise SP?

    WTF are you (a supposed Liberal) doing stanning Trumpian
    policies wrt ICE (and probably more)?

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun May 4 18:33:25 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Andy Leighton <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sun, 4 May 2025 12:21:51 -0000 (UTC),
    The Doctor <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <vv7cf7$1mhco$[email protected]>,
    solar penguin <[email protected]> wrote:
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:


    Overall "Lucky Day" was a good enough story once it got going,
    but in "Doctor Who" I want to see the Doctor and his actions
    drive the story... the tail shouldn't wag the dog. So I say,
    less social commentary, more Doctor!!!


    The social commentary has dated badly in the year or so
    since the script was first written.

    When you look at what ICE is now doing in the USA, this isn’t
    the time to tell viewers that anyone warning of the fascist
    overreach of government agencies is actually a delusional,
    lying crackpot!

    Are you a Communist in disguise SP?

    WTF are you (a supposed Liberal) doing stanning Trumpian
    policies wrt ICE (and probably more)?


    That is SP not me!

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    - Douglas Adams


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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun May 4 18:32:47 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <vv7rsp$246h1$[email protected]>,
    solar penguin <[email protected]> wrote:

    The asswipe asserted:
    ^^^^^^^<-Paedophile talekr noted

    In article <vv7o7i$21343$[email protected]>,
    solar penguin <[email protected]> wrote:

    The asswipe asked:
    ^^^^^^^<-Paedophile talker noted

    In article <vv7cf7$1mhco$[email protected]>,
    solar penguin <[email protected]> wrote:

    When you look at what ICE is now doing in the USA, this isn’t
    the time to tell viewers that anyone warning of the fascist
    overreach of government agencies is actually a delusional,
    lying crackpot!


    Are you a Communist in disguise SP?


    I’m not anything in disguise. What you see is what you get.


    You must count Arthur Scargill as a best friend SP!


    I don’t have any friends. :-(

    Everyone around here is your friend, myself included!


    (Just like you.)

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  • From Hornplayer9599@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sun May 4 17:30:16 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    On 5/3/2025 08:06, Blueshirt wrote:
    "Lucky Day" is this season's Doctor-lite episode and without the
    Doctor around it becomes a chapter in the "Adventures of Ruby
    Sunday"... which basically means, it's companion soap opera
    time; Ruby gets a boyfriend (Conrad), her Mum(s) and Gran are
    happy for her and all is looking rosy as the two of them head
    off for a weekend away in the country. Conrad even carries
    Ruby's bag for her when they get off the bus. A nice looking guy
    and a gentleman too. What could possibly go wrong?


    [SPOILERS]


    Yes, we all knew that Conrad was going to be a bit of a
    bastard... Poor Ruby. As if being an ex-companion of the Doctor
    wasn't traumatic enough for her whilst she tries to adapt back
    to a normal life in London without the Doctor, now she goes and
    falls for a hot guy that was only faking his interest in her.
    Ain't life a bitch baby?! The moral of the story is, beware of
    toxic masculinity... it'll only lead you astray!

    Oh, and beware of fake news too... we all know about that one
    don't we? So never believe what they tell you. It's all a
    conspiracy! #DemandTheTruth

    "Lucky day" was almost an epilogue to last season by using Ruby
    and not the current companion, as well as being a [kind of]
    prequel setting up "The War Between the Land and the Sea" (Also
    being co-written by Peter McTighe, who wrote this episode.) as
    the UNIT crew - Kate Stewart, Col Ibrahim and Shirley-Anne, will
    be featuring in that. I'm sure the line about Mel being away in
    Sydney to deal with "something in the harbour" was there for a
    reason too...

    I'm not even sure why we still get Doctor-lite episodes when
    "Doctor Who" seasons only have eight episodes now... it seems a
    bit of a waste to sideline the Doctor once a season now. It
    might have worked with "Blink" but that was part of a thirteen
    episode season. Now, eight episodes - usually seven stories -
    just isn't enough of a season to minimise the Doctor's role, IMO.

    Some minor points of note; Conrad knows of Belinda Chandra, the
    Doctor DIDN'T cry in this episode, Mrs Flood refers to herself
    as The Governor, and with her big bunch of keys is probably
    going to let Conrad out of jail... so it's possible the cad will
    be back later in the season. (I'd have just let the alien eat
    him, but that might have been a bit much for the BBC... "Doctor
    Who" is a family friendly show after all.)

    Well, the Doctor wasn't in the episode long enough to cry...if he did,
    it would make crying even worthless than it is now. I did like Conrad
    getting his arm bitten off (looks like they got it back on), and the
    fact that the Doctor lives in his head rent free.



    Overall "Lucky Day" was a good enough story once it got going,
    but in "Doctor Who" I want to see the Doctor and his actions
    drive the story... the tail shouldn't wag the dog. So I say,
    less social commentary, more Doctor!!!

    Yes, when shows inject "modern" aspects of life it causes the episode to
    have a short shelf life. As opposed to stories that could occur at any
    time, and are "timeless".



    So my rating for "Lucky Day" is 6/10...

    5/10 here...just "meh".


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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon May 5 00:52:27 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <ZTRRP.198937$[email protected]>,
    Hornplayer9599 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 5/3/2025 08:06, Blueshirt wrote:
    "Lucky Day" is this season's Doctor-lite episode and without the
    Doctor around it becomes a chapter in the "Adventures of Ruby
    Sunday"... which basically means, it's companion soap opera
    time; Ruby gets a boyfriend (Conrad), her Mum(s) and Gran are
    happy for her and all is looking rosy as the two of them head
    off for a weekend away in the country. Conrad even carries
    Ruby's bag for her when they get off the bus. A nice looking guy
    and a gentleman too. What could possibly go wrong?


    [SPOILERS]


    Yes, we all knew that Conrad was going to be a bit of a
    bastard... Poor Ruby. As if being an ex-companion of the Doctor
    wasn't traumatic enough for her whilst she tries to adapt back
    to a normal life in London without the Doctor, now she goes and
    falls for a hot guy that was only faking his interest in her.
    Ain't life a bitch baby?! The moral of the story is, beware of
    toxic masculinity... it'll only lead you astray!

    Oh, and beware of fake news too... we all know about that one
    don't we? So never believe what they tell you. It's all a
    conspiracy! #DemandTheTruth

    "Lucky day" was almost an epilogue to last season by using Ruby
    and not the current companion, as well as being a [kind of]
    prequel setting up "The War Between the Land and the Sea" (Also
    being co-written by Peter McTighe, who wrote this episode.) as
    the UNIT crew - Kate Stewart, Col Ibrahim and Shirley-Anne, will
    be featuring in that. I'm sure the line about Mel being away in
    Sydney to deal with "something in the harbour" was there for a
    reason too...

    I'm not even sure why we still get Doctor-lite episodes when
    "Doctor Who" seasons only have eight episodes now... it seems a
    bit of a waste to sideline the Doctor once a season now. It
    might have worked with "Blink" but that was part of a thirteen
    episode season. Now, eight episodes - usually seven stories -
    just isn't enough of a season to minimise the Doctor's role, IMO.

    Some minor points of note; Conrad knows of Belinda Chandra, the
    Doctor DIDN'T cry in this episode, Mrs Flood refers to herself
    as The Governor, and with her big bunch of keys is probably
    going to let Conrad out of jail... so it's possible the cad will
    be back later in the season. (I'd have just let the alien eat
    him, but that might have been a bit much for the BBC... "Doctor
    Who" is a family friendly show after all.)

    Well, the Doctor wasn't in the episode long enough to cry...if he did,
    it would make crying even worthless than it is now. I did like Conrad >getting his arm bitten off (looks like they got it back on), and the
    fact that the Doctor lives in his head rent free.



    Overall "Lucky Day" was a good enough story once it got going,
    but in "Doctor Who" I want to see the Doctor and his actions
    drive the story... the tail shouldn't wag the dog. So I say,
    less social commentary, more Doctor!!!

    Yes, when shows inject "modern" aspects of life it causes the episode to
    have a short shelf life. As opposed to stories that could occur at any
    time, and are "timeless".



    So my rating for "Lucky Day" is 6/10...

    5/10 here...just "meh".


    14+5 -> 19 / 5 -> 3.8

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon May 5 00:51:49 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <vv8n87$2t7gr$[email protected]>,
    solar penguin <[email protected]> wrote:

    The asswipe attempted to attack me:
    ^^^^^^^<-Paedophile talker noted.

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Andy Leighton <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sun, 4 May 2025 12:21:51 -0000 (UTC),
    The Doctor <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <vv7cf7$1mhco$[email protected]>,
    solar penguin <[email protected]> wrote:

    The social commentary has dated badly in the year or so
    since the script was first written.

    When you look at what ICE is now doing in the USA, this isn’t
    the time to tell viewers that anyone warning of the fascist
    overreach of government agencies is actually a delusional,
    lying crackpot!

    Are you a Communist in disguise SP?

    WTF are you (a supposed Liberal) doing stanning Trumpian
    policies wrt ICE (and probably more)?


    That is SP not me!


    Liar! I’m not fanboying over Trump. Just the opposite.


    Neither am I!


    --
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  • From Andy Leighton@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Mon May 5 08:34:36 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    On Sun, 4 May 2025 18:33:25 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Andy Leighton <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sun, 4 May 2025 12:21:51 -0000 (UTC),
    The Doctor <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <vv7cf7$1mhco$[email protected]>,
    solar penguin <[email protected]> wrote:
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:


    Overall "Lucky Day" was a good enough story once it got going,
    but in "Doctor Who" I want to see the Doctor and his actions
    drive the story... the tail shouldn't wag the dog. So I say,
    less social commentary, more Doctor!!!


    The social commentary has dated badly in the year or so
    since the script was first written.

    When you look at what ICE is now doing in the USA, this isn’t
    the time to tell viewers that anyone warning of the fascist
    overreach of government agencies is actually a delusional,
    lying crackpot!

    Are you a Communist in disguise SP?

    WTF are you (a supposed Liberal) doing stanning Trumpian
    policies wrt ICE (and probably more)?

    That is SP not me!

    No SP was quite clearly against what ICE is doing, quite clearly
    against fascist overreach of government.

    You then attacked him by calling him a Communist. Which kind
    of indicates that you did not like his message. Which to be
    absolutely clear (as you are hard of reading) is now is exactly
    the time to be warning (at the very least) of the fascist
    tendencies among us and in particular in government.

    --
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    "We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!"
    - Douglas Adams

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  • From Daniel70@21:1/5 to Andy Leighton on Mon May 5 21:10:59 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    On 5/05/2025 6:34 pm, Andy Leighton wrote:
    On Sun, 4 May 2025 18:33:25 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>, Andy Leighton
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sun, 4 May 2025 12:21:51 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <vv7cf7$1mhco$[email protected]>, solar penguin
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:

    Overall "Lucky Day" was a good enough story once it got
    going, but in "Doctor Who" I want to see the Doctor and his
    actions drive the story... the tail shouldn't wag the dog.
    So I say, less social commentary, more Doctor!!!

    The social commentary has dated badly in the year or so since
    the script was first written.

    When you look at what ICE is now doing in the USA, this
    isn’t the time to tell viewers that anyone warning of the
    fascist overreach of government agencies is actually a
    delusional, lying crackpot!

    Are you a Communist in disguise SP?

    WTF are you (a supposed Liberal) doing stanning Trumpian policies
    wrt ICE (and probably more)?

    That is SP not me!

    No SP was quite clearly against what ICE is doing, quite clearly
    against fascist overreach of government.

    You then attacked him by calling him a Communist.

    But Binky would have no idea what a Communist is. He would be hard
    pressed to explain what a Liberal is .... and Binky claims to BE a Liberal!!

    Which kind of indicates that you did not like his message.

    Or it just gave Binky a chance to POST .... to post anything!!

    Which to be absolutely clear (as you are hard of reading) is now is
    exactly the time to be warning (at the very least) of the fascist
    tendencies among us and in particular in government.

    I'm guessing that "amoung us" is a reference to the wider world "us"
    rather than just this little group of us's. ;-P
    --
    Daniel70

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  • From Daniel70@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Mon May 5 21:14:54 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    On 4/05/2025 9:18 pm, Blueshirt wrote:

    <Snip>

    Yeah, you watch a TV series and there's always a couple in a
    happy relationship... then when they start making plans for the
    future you know... BANG... one of them dies.

    WHAT?? You mean we're NOT all gunna die together??
    --
    Daniel70

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  • From Daniel70@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 5 21:20:34 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    On 5/05/2025 8:30 am, Hornplayer9599 wrote:

    <Snip>

    Well, the Doctor wasn't in the episode long enough to cry...if he did,
    it would make crying even worthless than it is now.  I did like Conrad getting his arm bitten off (looks like they got it back on), and the
    fact that the Doctor lives in his head rent free.

    WHAT?? Is "Doctor Who" now trying to imitate MY Lifetime after losing my
    arm??
    --
    Daniel70

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  • From Andy Leighton@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon May 5 13:51:46 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    On Mon, 5 May 2025 21:10:59 +1000,
    Daniel70 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 5/05/2025 6:34 pm, Andy Leighton wrote:
    On Sun, 4 May 2025 18:33:25 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>, Andy Leighton
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sun, 4 May 2025 12:21:51 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <vv7cf7$1mhco$[email protected]>, solar penguin
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:

    Overall "Lucky Day" was a good enough story once it got
    going, but in "Doctor Who" I want to see the Doctor and his
    actions drive the story... the tail shouldn't wag the dog.
    So I say, less social commentary, more Doctor!!!

    The social commentary has dated badly in the year or so since
    the script was first written.

    When you look at what ICE is now doing in the USA, this
    isn’t the time to tell viewers that anyone warning of the
    fascist overreach of government agencies is actually a
    delusional, lying crackpot!

    Are you a Communist in disguise SP?

    WTF are you (a supposed Liberal) doing stanning Trumpian policies
    wrt ICE (and probably more)?

    That is SP not me!

    No SP was quite clearly against what ICE is doing, quite clearly
    against fascist overreach of government.

    You then attacked him by calling him a Communist.

    But Binky would have no idea what a Communist is. He would be hard
    pressed to explain what a Liberal is .... and Binky claims to BE a Liberal!!

    Which kind of indicates that you did not like his message.

    Or it just gave Binky a chance to POST .... to post anything!!

    Which to be absolutely clear (as you are hard of reading) is now is
    exactly the time to be warning (at the very least) of the fascist
    tendencies among us and in particular in government.

    I'm guessing that "amoung us" is a reference to the wider world "us"
    rather than just this little group of us's. ;-P

    Well there are a number of so-called alt-right DW commentators
    (some of whom have been mentioned on here). Who hated Jodie for
    being a woman, who hate Ncuti for being black and gay, who hate
    non-white actors in prominent roles in the show, who hate disabled
    actors in prominent roles in the show, who hated DW being trans-
    inclusive. Who just constantly drip negativity about the show.
    If they hate it that much why don't they just fucking turn the
    TV off and go and do something more interesting instead.

    --
    Andy Leighton => [email protected]
    "We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!"
    - Douglas Adams

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon May 5 15:32:07 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Andy Leighton <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sun, 4 May 2025 18:33:25 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor ><[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Andy Leighton <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sun, 4 May 2025 12:21:51 -0000 (UTC),
    The Doctor <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <vv7cf7$1mhco$[email protected]>,
    solar penguin <[email protected]> wrote:
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:


    Overall "Lucky Day" was a good enough story once it got going,
    but in "Doctor Who" I want to see the Doctor and his actions
    drive the story... the tail shouldn't wag the dog. So I say,
    less social commentary, more Doctor!!!


    The social commentary has dated badly in the year or so
    since the script was first written.

    When you look at what ICE is now doing in the USA, this isn’t
    the time to tell viewers that anyone warning of the fascist
    overreach of government agencies is actually a delusional,
    lying crackpot!

    Are you a Communist in disguise SP?

    WTF are you (a supposed Liberal) doing stanning Trumpian
    policies wrt ICE (and probably more)?

    That is SP not me!

    No SP was quite clearly against what ICE is doing, quite clearly
    against fascist overreach of government.

    You then attacked him by calling him a Communist. Which kind
    of indicates that you did not like his message. Which to be
    absolutely clear (as you are hard of reading) is now is exactly
    the time to be warning (at the very least) of the fascist
    tendencies among us and in particular in government.


    I reject Socialism and conservatism. Donald Trump is now the poster-boy
    for republicanism worldwide?

    My question to SP is that he is acting like a communist.

    --
    Andy Leighton => [email protected]
    "We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!"
    - Douglas Adams


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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon May 5 15:34:01 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <vva6c6$bjb8$[email protected]>,
    Daniel70 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 5/05/2025 6:34 pm, Andy Leighton wrote:
    On Sun, 4 May 2025 18:33:25 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>, Andy Leighton
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sun, 4 May 2025 12:21:51 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <vv7cf7$1mhco$[email protected]>, solar penguin
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:

    Overall "Lucky Day" was a good enough story once it got
    going, but in "Doctor Who" I want to see the Doctor and his
    actions drive the story... the tail shouldn't wag the dog.
    So I say, less social commentary, more Doctor!!!

    The social commentary has dated badly in the year or so since
    the script was first written.

    When you look at what ICE is now doing in the USA, this
    isn’t the time to tell viewers that anyone warning of the
    fascist overreach of government agencies is actually a
    delusional, lying crackpot!

    Are you a Communist in disguise SP?

    WTF are you (a supposed Liberal) doing stanning Trumpian policies
    wrt ICE (and probably more)?

    That is SP not me!

    No SP was quite clearly against what ICE is doing, quite clearly
    against fascist overreach of government.

    You then attacked him by calling him a Communist.

    But Binky would have no idea what a Communist is. He would be hard
    ^^^^^<-Paedophile talker noted
    pressed to explain what a Liberal is .... and Binky claims to BE a Liberal!! ^^^^^<-Paedophile talker noted

    Which kind of indicates that you did not like his message.

    Or it just gave Binky a chance to POST .... to post anything!!
    ^^^^^<-Paedophile talker noted

    Which to be absolutely clear (as you are hard of reading) is now is
    exactly the time to be warning (at the very least) of the fascist
    tendencies among us and in particular in government.

    I'm guessing that "amoung us" is a reference to the wider world "us"
    rather than just this little group of us's. ;-P

    WEll given that Trump is the poster boy for republicanism worldwide ...

    --
    Daniel70


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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon May 5 15:43:33 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <vva6u2$bjb8$[email protected]>,
    Daniel70 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 5/05/2025 8:30 am, Hornplayer9599 wrote:

    <Snip>

    Well, the Doctor wasn't in the episode long enough to cry...if he did,
    it would make crying even worthless than it is now.  I did like Conrad
    getting his arm bitten off (looks like they got it back on), and the
    fact that the Doctor lives in his head rent free.

    WHAT?? Is "Doctor Who" now trying to imitate MY Lifetime after losing my >arm??
    --
    Daniel70

    Touche.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon May 5 15:46:53 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Andy Leighton <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Mon, 5 May 2025 21:10:59 +1000,
    Daniel70 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 5/05/2025 6:34 pm, Andy Leighton wrote:
    On Sun, 4 May 2025 18:33:25 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>, Andy Leighton
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sun, 4 May 2025 12:21:51 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <vv7cf7$1mhco$[email protected]>, solar penguin
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:

    Overall "Lucky Day" was a good enough story once it got
    going, but in "Doctor Who" I want to see the Doctor and his
    actions drive the story... the tail shouldn't wag the dog.
    So I say, less social commentary, more Doctor!!!

    The social commentary has dated badly in the year or so since
    the script was first written.

    When you look at what ICE is now doing in the USA, this
    isn’t the time to tell viewers that anyone warning of the
    fascist overreach of government agencies is actually a
    delusional, lying crackpot!

    Are you a Communist in disguise SP?

    WTF are you (a supposed Liberal) doing stanning Trumpian policies
    wrt ICE (and probably more)?

    That is SP not me!

    No SP was quite clearly against what ICE is doing, quite clearly
    against fascist overreach of government.

    You then attacked him by calling him a Communist.

    But Binky would have no idea what a Communist is. He would be hard
    ^^^^^<-Peadophile talekr noted
    pressed to explain what a Liberal is .... and Binky claims to BE a Liberal!!
    ^^^^^<-Peadophile talekr noted >>
    Which kind of indicates that you did not like his message.

    Or it just gave Binky a chance to POST .... to post anything!!
    ^^^^^<-Peadophile talekr noted

    Which to be absolutely clear (as you are hard of reading) is now is
    exactly the time to be warning (at the very least) of the fascist
    tendencies among us and in particular in government.

    I'm guessing that "amoung us" is a reference to the wider world "us"
    rather than just this little group of us's. ;-P

    Well there are a number of so-called alt-right DW commentators
    (some of whom have been mentioned on here). Who hated Jodie for
    being a woman, who hate Ncuti for being black and gay, who hate
    non-white actors in prominent roles in the show, who hate disabled
    actors in prominent roles in the show, who hated DW being trans-
    inclusive. Who just constantly drip negativity about the show.
    If they hate it that much why don't they just f*king turn the
    TV off and go and do something more interesting instead.


    I would keep Gatwa but get a new showrunner. B
    rand new not attached to RTD gang!

    --
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    - Douglas Adams


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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Andy Leighton on Mon May 5 21:02:49 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    Andy Leighton wrote:


    Well there are a number of so-called alt-right DW commentators
    (some of whom have been mentioned on here). Who hated Jodie
    for being a woman, who hate Ncuti for being black and gay, who
    hate non-white actors in prominent roles in the show, who hate
    disabled actors in prominent roles in the show, who hated DW
    being trans- inclusive. Who just constantly drip negativity
    about the show.

    "Commentators" is the correct definition as they are certainly
    not fans.

    If they hate it that much why don't they just fucking
    turn the TV off and go and do something more interesting
    instead.

    Wasn't there a kids TV show titled something like that? (Minus
    the F word obviously.)

    I can't get my head around people who continually watch a TV
    show they claim not to like. It just doesn't make any sense.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Mon May 5 23:21:24 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    Andy Leighton wrote:


    Well there are a number of so-called alt-right DW commentators
    (some of whom have been mentioned on here). Who hated Jodie
    for being a woman, who hate Ncuti for being black and gay, who
    hate non-white actors in prominent roles in the show, who hate
    disabled actors in prominent roles in the show, who hated DW
    being trans- inclusive. Who just constantly drip negativity
    about the show.

    "Commentators" is the correct definition as they are certainly
    not fans.

    If they hate it that much why don't they just fucking
    turn the TV off and go and do something more interesting
    instead.

    Wasn't there a kids TV show titled something like that? (Minus
    the F word obviously.)

    I can't get my head around people who continually watch a TV
    show they claim not to like. It just doesn't make any sense.


    It is caleld nostalgia.
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  • From Andy Leighton@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Tue May 6 08:42:23 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    On Mon, 5 May 2025 23:21:24 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    Andy Leighton wrote:

    If they hate it that much why don't they just fucking
    turn the TV off and go and do something more interesting
    instead.

    Wasn't there a kids TV show titled something like that? (Minus
    the F word obviously.)

    "Why Don't You?" But that used "less boring" not "more interesting".

    I can't get my head around people who continually watch a TV
    show they claim not to like. It just doesn't make any sense.

    It is caleld nostalgia.

    No it isn't.

    Nostalgia would be luxriating in the past highlights of Doctor Who,
    watching old stories and listening to those BF audios that do try
    and capture that feel.

    Subjecting yourself to something you obviously hate and then
    consistently be negative about it, and keep harping on about
    needing to retcon something that happened years ago is the very
    opposite of nostalgia. It does not engender the warm fuzzy
    feelings that one associates with nostalgia.

    --
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    "We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!"
    - Douglas Adams

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  • From Daniel70@21:1/5 to Andy Leighton on Tue May 6 20:48:01 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    On 6/05/2025 6:42 pm, Andy Leighton wrote:
    On Mon, 5 May 2025 23:21:24 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    Andy Leighton wrote:

    If they hate it that much why don't they just fucking
    turn the TV off and go and do something more interesting
    instead.

    Wasn't there a kids TV show titled something like that? (Minus
    the F word obviously.)

    "Why Don't You?" But that used "less boring" not "more interesting".

    I can't get my head around people who continually watch a TV
    show they claim not to like. It just doesn't make any sense.

    It is caleld nostalgia.

    No it isn't.

    Nostalgia would be luxriating in the past highlights of Doctor Who,
    watching old stories and listening to those BF audios that do try
    and capture that feel.

    Subjecting yourself to something you obviously hate and then
    consistently be negative about it, and keep harping on about
    needing to retcon something that happened years ago is the very
    opposite of nostalgia. It does not engender the warm fuzzy
    feelings that one associates with nostalgia.

    Oh, well done, Andy, for making it to the last word in Binky's post. I'm
    still trying to figure out what Binky's third word was!! ;-P
    --
    Daniel70

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  • From Daniel70@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Tue May 6 20:58:39 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    On 6/05/2025 1:32 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Andy Leighton <[email protected]> wrote:

    <Snip>

    No SP was quite clearly against what ICE is doing, quite clearly
    against fascist overreach of government.

    You then attacked him by calling him a Communist. Which kind
    of indicates that you did not like his message. Which to be
    absolutely clear (as you are hard of reading) is now is exactly
    the time to be warning (at the very least) of the fascist
    tendencies among us and in particular in government.

    I reject Socialism and conservatism. Donald Trump is now the poster-boy
    for republicanism worldwide?

    My question to SP is that he is acting like a communist.

    YOUR failure to manage The King's English comes to the fore, once again, Binky!!

    First YOU, Binky, state YOU, Binky, are asking a question (My *question*
    to SP ...) then YOU, Binky, make a statement (... that he is acting like
    a communist) and finish it off without a Question Mark (?), Binky.

    Any wonder the Poms kick YOU out, Binky!!
    --
    Daniel70

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  • From Daniel70@21:1/5 to Andy Leighton on Tue May 6 20:33:29 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    On 5/05/2025 11:51 pm, Andy Leighton wrote:
    On Mon, 5 May 2025 21:10:59 +1000,
    Daniel70 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 5/05/2025 6:34 pm, Andy Leighton wrote:
    On Sun, 4 May 2025 18:33:25 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>, Andy Leighton
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sun, 4 May 2025 12:21:51 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <vv7cf7$1mhco$[email protected]>, solar penguin
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:

    Overall "Lucky Day" was a good enough story once it got
    going, but in "Doctor Who" I want to see the Doctor and his
    actions drive the story... the tail shouldn't wag the dog.
    So I say, less social commentary, more Doctor!!!

    The social commentary has dated badly in the year or so since
    the script was first written.

    When you look at what ICE is now doing in the USA, this
    isn’t the time to tell viewers that anyone warning of the
    fascist overreach of government agencies is actually a
    delusional, lying crackpot!

    Are you a Communist in disguise SP?

    WTF are you (a supposed Liberal) doing stanning Trumpian policies
    wrt ICE (and probably more)?

    That is SP not me!

    No SP was quite clearly against what ICE is doing, quite clearly
    against fascist overreach of government.

    You then attacked him by calling him a Communist.

    But Binky would have no idea what a Communist is. He would be hard
    pressed to explain what a Liberal is .... and Binky claims to BE a Liberal!! >>
    Which kind of indicates that you did not like his message.

    Or it just gave Binky a chance to POST .... to post anything!!

    Which to be absolutely clear (as you are hard of reading) is now is
    exactly the time to be warning (at the very least) of the fascist
    tendencies among us and in particular in government.

    I'm guessing that "amoung us" is a reference to the wider world "us"
    rather than just this little group of us's. ;-P

    Well there are a number of so-called alt-right DW commentators
    (some of whom have been mentioned on here). Who hated Jodie for
    being a woman, who hate Ncuti for being black and gay, who hate
    non-white actors in prominent roles in the show, who hate disabled
    actors in prominent roles in the show, who hated DW being trans-
    inclusive. Who just constantly drip negativity about the show.
    If they hate it that much why don't they just fucking turn the
    TV off and go and do something more interesting instead.

    .... or, even, just CHANGE THE CHANNEL!!

    Now-a-days there are plenty of options!!
    --
    Daniel70

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  • From Daniel70@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Tue May 6 21:01:31 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    On 6/05/2025 1:34 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <vva6jf$bjb8$[email protected]>,
    Daniel70 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 4/05/2025 9:18 pm, Blueshirt wrote:

    <Snip>

    Yeah, you watch a TV series and there's always a couple in a
    happy relationship... then when they start making plans for the
    future you know... BANG... one of them dies.

    WHAT?? You mean we're NOT all gunna die together??

    What was the the last live episode of DW you watched?

    Seems as EVERY modern 'episode of DW' was RECORDED, Binky, I doubt any
    of us has seen a LIVE episode of DW, Binky!!
    --
    Daniel70

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Tue May 6 13:09:11 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    Andy Leighton wrote:

    If they hate it that much why don't they just fucking
    turn the TV off and go and do something more interesting
    instead.

    Wasn't there a kids TV show titled something like that?
    (Minus the F word obviously.)

    I can't get my head around people who continually watch a TV
    show they claim not to like. It just doesn't make any sense.

    It is caleld nostalgia.

    Continually watching a TV show that you don't like is called
    nostalgia?

    I call it a stupid waste of a person's time. Life is too short.

    Don't like it? Switch off. Simples.

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 6 13:16:09 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 5/05/2025 11:51 pm, Andy Leighton wrote:


    Well there are a number of so-called alt-right DW
    commentators (some of whom have been mentioned on here).
    Who hated Jodie for being a woman, who hate Ncuti for being
    black and gay, who hate non-white actors in prominent roles
    in the show, who hate disabled actors in prominent roles in
    the show, who hated DW being trans- inclusive. Who just
    constantly drip negativity about the show. If they hate it
    that much why don't they just fucking turn the TV off and go
    and do something more interesting instead.

    .... or, even, just CHANGE THE CHANNEL!!

    Too easy, obviously.

    Some people like subjecting themself to pain and misery... it
    gives them something to complain about.

    Now-a-days there are plenty of options!!

    Too many. Which is why TV shows nowadays need to be more about
    telling a good story and keeping people engaged. If people get
    bored halfway through a show, they'll just switch over to
    something else, and if people really dislike a specific show,
    they won't watch it again.

    Viewer ratings are down everywhere because people have too many
    options and they can dip-in and dip-out of TV shows to find
    something that interests them.

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to solar penguin on Tue May 6 13:32:54 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    solar penguin wrote:


    Daniel70 <[email protected]> wrote:

    Seems as EVERY modern 'episode of DW' was RECORDED, Binky, I
    doubt any of us has seen a LIVE episode of DW, Binky!!

    I’ve seen live episodes of DW. Or at least been in the
    audience for live recording of a Big Finish audio. Does that
    count?

    That achievement is the stuff of legends...

    Well done! ;-)

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  • From Daniel70@21:1/5 to solar penguin on Wed May 7 00:03:48 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    On 6/05/2025 10:05 pm, solar penguin wrote:
    Daniel70 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 6/05/2025 1:34 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <vva6jf$bjb8$[email protected]>,
    Daniel70 <[email protected]> wrote:

    What was the the last live episode of DW you watched?

    Seems as EVERY modern 'episode of DW' was RECORDED, Binky, I doubt any
    of us has seen a LIVE episode of DW, Binky!!

    I’ve seen live episodes of DW. Or at least been in the audience for
    live recording of a Big Finish audio. Does that count?

    Close .... but no cookie!!
    --
    Daniel70

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  • From Daniel70@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Wed May 7 00:02:27 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    On 6/05/2025 11:16 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:
    On 5/05/2025 11:51 pm, Andy Leighton wrote:

    Well there are a number of so-called alt-right DW commentators
    (some of whom have been mentioned on here). Who hated Jodie for
    being a woman, who hate Ncuti for being black and gay, who hate
    non-white actors in prominent roles in the show, who hate
    disabled actors in prominent roles in the show, who hated DW
    being trans- inclusive. Who just constantly drip negativity about
    the show. If they hate it that much why don't they just fucking
    turn the TV off and go and do something more interesting
    instead.

    .... or, even, just CHANGE THE CHANNEL!!

    Too easy, obviously.

    Some people like subjecting themself to pain and misery

    Ah!! So might you be suggesting that Aggy and Binky are masochists??
    That could explain a lot.

    ... it gives them something to complain about.

    Now-a-days there are plenty of options!!

    Too many. Which is why TV shows nowadays need to be more about
    telling a good story and keeping people engaged. If people get bored
    halfway through a show, they'll just switch over to something else,

    .... if they had half a brain!! .... between them.

    and if people really dislike a specific show, they won't watch it
    again.

    Viewer ratings are down everywhere because people have too many
    options and they can dip-in and dip-out of TV shows to find something
    that interests them.

    Yeap.
    --
    Daniel70

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue May 6 14:08:11 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <vvchbe$2i7lm$[email protected]>,
    solar penguin <[email protected]> wrote:

    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:

    Andy Leighton wrote:


    If they hate it that much why don't they just f*king
    turn the TV off and go and do something more interesting
    instead.

    Wasn't there a kids TV show titled something like that? (Minus
    the F word obviously.)


    Yeah. The young RTD was the junior deputy assistant teaboy for
    it. Or something like that.

    Which show?


    --
    solar penguin


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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue May 6 14:08:53 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Andy Leighton <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Mon, 5 May 2025 23:21:24 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor ><[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    Andy Leighton wrote:

    If they hate it that much why don't they just fucking
    turn the TV off and go and do something more interesting
    instead.

    Wasn't there a kids TV show titled something like that? (Minus
    the F word obviously.)

    "Why Don't You?" But that used "less boring" not "more interesting".

    I can't get my head around people who continually watch a TV
    show they claim not to like. It just doesn't make any sense.

    It is caleld nostalgia.

    No it isn't.

    Nostalgia would be luxriating in the past highlights of Doctor Who,
    watching old stories and listening to those BF audios that do try
    and capture that feel.

    Subjecting yourself to something you obviously hate and then
    consistently be negative about it, and keep harping on about
    needing to retcon something that happened years ago is the very
    opposite of nostalgia. It does not engender the warm fuzzy
    feelings that one associates with nostalgia.


    So what world would you choose?

    --
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    "We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!"
    - Douglas Adams


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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue May 6 14:10:16 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <vvcpd1$2p608$[email protected]>,
    Daniel70 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 6/05/2025 6:42 pm, Andy Leighton wrote:
    On Mon, 5 May 2025 23:21:24 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor ><[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    Andy Leighton wrote:

    If they hate it that much why don't they just fucking
    turn the TV off and go and do something more interesting
    instead.

    Wasn't there a kids TV show titled something like that? (Minus
    the F word obviously.)

    "Why Don't You?" But that used "less boring" not "more interesting".

    I can't get my head around people who continually watch a TV
    show they claim not to like. It just doesn't make any sense.

    It is caleld nostalgia.

    No it isn't.

    Nostalgia would be luxriating in the past highlights of Doctor Who,
    watching old stories and listening to those BF audios that do try
    and capture that feel.

    Subjecting yourself to something you obviously hate and then
    consistently be negative about it, and keep harping on about
    needing to retcon something that happened years ago is the very
    opposite of nostalgia. It does not engender the warm fuzzy
    feelings that one associates with nostalgia.

    Oh, well done, Andy, for making it to the last word in Binky's post. I'm
    ^^^^^<-Paedophile talker noted

    still trying to figure out what Binky's third word was!! ;-P
    ^^^^^<-Paedophile talker noted
    --
    Daniel70


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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue May 6 14:09:16 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <vvcoho$2nprf$[email protected]>,
    Daniel70 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 5/05/2025 11:51 pm, Andy Leighton wrote:
    On Mon, 5 May 2025 21:10:59 +1000,
    Daniel70 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 5/05/2025 6:34 pm, Andy Leighton wrote:
    On Sun, 4 May 2025 18:33:25 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>, Andy Leighton
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sun, 4 May 2025 12:21:51 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <vv7cf7$1mhco$[email protected]>, solar penguin
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:

    Overall "Lucky Day" was a good enough story once it got
    going, but in "Doctor Who" I want to see the Doctor and his
    actions drive the story... the tail shouldn't wag the dog.
    So I say, less social commentary, more Doctor!!!

    The social commentary has dated badly in the year or so since
    the script was first written.

    When you look at what ICE is now doing in the USA, this
    isn’t the time to tell viewers that anyone warning of the
    fascist overreach of government agencies is actually a
    delusional, lying crackpot!

    Are you a Communist in disguise SP?

    WTF are you (a supposed Liberal) doing stanning Trumpian policies
    wrt ICE (and probably more)?

    That is SP not me!

    No SP was quite clearly against what ICE is doing, quite clearly
    against fascist overreach of government.

    You then attacked him by calling him a Communist.

    But Binky would have no idea what a Communist is. He would be hard
    pressed to explain what a Liberal is .... and Binky claims to BE a Liberal!!

    Which kind of indicates that you did not like his message.

    Or it just gave Binky a chance to POST .... to post anything!!

    Which to be absolutely clear (as you are hard of reading) is now is
    exactly the time to be warning (at the very least) of the fascist
    tendencies among us and in particular in government.

    I'm guessing that "amoung us" is a reference to the wider world "us"
    rather than just this little group of us's. ;-P

    Well there are a number of so-called alt-right DW commentators
    (some of whom have been mentioned on here). Who hated Jodie for
    being a woman, who hate Ncuti for being black and gay, who hate
    non-white actors in prominent roles in the show, who hate disabled
    actors in prominent roles in the show, who hated DW being trans-
    inclusive. Who just constantly drip negativity about the show.
    If they hate it that much why don't they just fucking turn the
    TV off and go and do something more interesting instead.

    .... or, even, just CHANGE THE CHANNEL!!

    Now-a-days there are plenty of options!!

    Pending on the option.

    --
    Daniel70


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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue May 6 14:11:14 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <vvcq11$2po4c$[email protected]>,
    Daniel70 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 6/05/2025 1:32 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Andy Leighton <[email protected]> wrote:

    <Snip>

    No SP was quite clearly against what ICE is doing, quite clearly
    against fascist overreach of government.

    You then attacked him by calling him a Communist. Which kind
    of indicates that you did not like his message. Which to be
    absolutely clear (as you are hard of reading) is now is exactly
    the time to be warning (at the very least) of the fascist
    tendencies among us and in particular in government.

    I reject Socialism and conservatism. Donald Trump is now the poster-boy
    for republicanism worldwide?

    My question to SP is that he is acting like a communist.

    YOUR failure to manage The King's English comes to the fore, once again, >Binky!!
    ^^^^^<-Paedophile talker noted


    vvvvv<-Paedophile talker noted
    First YOU, Binky, state YOU, Binky, are asking a question (My *question*
    ^^^^^<-Paedophile talker noted
    to SP ...) then YOU, Binky, make a statement (... that he is acting like
    ^^^^^<-Paedophile talker noted
    a communist) and finish it off without a Question Mark (?), Binky.
    ^^^^^<-Paedophile talker noted

    Any wonder the Poms kick YOU out, Binky!!
    --
    Daniel70


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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue May 6 14:12:14 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <vvctu7$2tb07$[email protected]>,
    solar penguin <[email protected]> wrote:

    Daniel70 <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/05/2025 1:34 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <vva6jf$bjb8$[email protected]>,
    Daniel70 <[email protected]> wrote:

    What was the the last live episode of DW you watched?

    Seems as EVERY modern 'episode of DW' was RECORDED, Binky, I doubt any
    ^^^^^<-Paedophile talker noted
    of us has seen a LIVE episode of DW, Binky!!
    ^^^^^<-Paedophile talker noted

    I’ve seen live episodes of DW. Or at least been in the audience for
    live recording of a Big Finish audio. Does that count?

    Yes!


    --
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Tue May 6 14:12:38 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    Andy Leighton wrote:

    If they hate it that much why don't they just fucking
    turn the TV off and go and do something more interesting
    instead.

    Wasn't there a kids TV show titled something like that?
    (Minus the F word obviously.)

    I can't get my head around people who continually watch a TV
    show they claim not to like. It just doesn't make any sense.

    It is caleld nostalgia.

    Continually watching a TV show that you don't like is called
    nostalgia?

    I call it a stupid waste of a person's time. Life is too short.

    Don't like it? Switch off. Simples.

    Or go for cancel culture.
    --
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Tue May 6 14:13:39 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    solar penguin wrote:


    Daniel70 <[email protected]> wrote:

    Seems as EVERY modern 'episode of DW' was RECORDED, Binky, I
    doubt any of us has seen a LIVE episode of DW, Binky!!

    I’ve seen live episodes of DW. Or at least been in the
    audience for live recording of a Big Finish audio. Does that
    count?

    That achievement is the stuff of legends...

    Well done! ;-)

    Cheers!
    --
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue May 6 14:14:29 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <vvd4s3$33aek$[email protected]>,
    Daniel70 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 6/05/2025 10:05 pm, solar penguin wrote:
    Daniel70 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 6/05/2025 1:34 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <vva6jf$bjb8$[email protected]>,
    Daniel70 <[email protected]> wrote:

    What was the the last live episode of DW you watched?

    Seems as EVERY modern 'episode of DW' was RECORDED, Binky, I doubt any
    ^^^^^<-Paedophile talker noted
    of us has seen a LIVE episode of DW, Binky!!
    ^^^^^<-Paedophile talker noted

    I’ve seen live episodes of DW. Or at least been in the audience for
    live recording of a Big Finish audio. Does that count?

    Close .... but no cookie!!
    --
    Daniel70


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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Tue May 6 19:26:03 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    solar penguin wrote:


    Daniel70 <[email protected]> wrote:

    Seems as EVERY modern 'episode of DW' was RECORDED,
    Binky, I doubt any of us has seen a LIVE episode of DW,
    Binky!!

    I’ve seen live episodes of DW. Or at least been in the
    audience for live recording of a Big Finish audio. Does that
    count?

    That achievement is the stuff of legends...

    Well done! ;-)

    Cheers!

    No Dave, I don't think you was in London last September so the
    "well done" wasn't aimed at you!

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Tue May 6 23:22:24 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:

    I can't get my head around people who continually watch a
    TV show they claim not to like. It just doesn't make any
    sense.

    It is caleld nostalgia.

    Continually watching a TV show that you don't like is called
    nostalgia?

    I call it a stupid waste of a person's time. Life is too
    short.

    Don't like it? Switch off. Simples.

    Or go for cancel culture.

    That's what the haters are doing. They want Doctor Who cancelled
    as they don't like it. They are not happy for the people who do
    like watching Doctor Who to carry on watching it... no, it has
    to be cancelled so nobody can enjoy it.

    What's even worse... they will take perverse delight when Doctor
    Who is cancelled by the BBC and think they've achieved some sort
    of victory. And then have the cheek to call themselves Doctor
    Who fans!

    You got my point hence why I am anti-cancel culture in general.
    --
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Tue May 6 23:23:33 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    solar penguin wrote:


    Daniel70 <[email protected]> wrote:

    Seems as EVERY modern 'episode of DW' was RECORDED,
    Binky, I doubt any of us has seen a LIVE episode of DW,
    Binky!!

    I’ve seen live episodes of DW. Or at least been in the
    audience for live recording of a Big Finish audio. Does that
    count?

    That achievement is the stuff of legends...

    Well done! ;-)

    Cheers!

    No Dave, I don't think you was in London last September so the
    "well done" wasn't aimed at you!

    look again.
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  • From Mickmane@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed May 7 09:42:00 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    On 07.05.25, Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:

    [commentators watching and ranting rather than doing something else]

    Now-a-days there are plenty of options!!

    Too many. Which is why TV shows nowadays need to be more about
    telling a good story and keeping people engaged. If people get
    bored halfway through a show, they'll just switch over to
    something else, and if people really dislike a specific show,
    they won't watch it again.

    Viewer ratings are down everywhere because people have too many
    options and they can dip-in and dip-out of TV shows to find
    something that interests them.

    These days most films even have a wiki, so I can read the plot and more importantly the end, to see if I even want to watch it in the first
    place. :)

    --

    Mickmane

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Mickmane on Wed May 7 12:33:46 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    Mickmane wrote:

    On 07.05.25, Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:

    [commentators watching and ranting rather than doing something
    else]

    Now-a-days there are plenty of options!!

    Too many. Which is why TV shows nowadays need to be more
    about telling a good story and keeping people engaged. If
    people get bored halfway through a show, they'll just switch
    over to something else, and if people really dislike a
    specific show, they won't watch it again.

    Viewer ratings are down everywhere because people have too
    many options and they can dip-in and dip-out of TV shows to
    find something that interests them.

    These days most films even have a wiki, so I can read the plot
    and more importantly the end, to see if I even want to watch
    it in the first place. :)

    Different!

    Still, if you're in a rush I suppose it enables people to
    maximise their spare time... :-)

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Mickmane on Wed May 7 13:32:20 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    Mickmane wrote:

    On 05.05.25, Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    Mickmane wrote:
    On 04.05.25, Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:

    Yes, we all knew that Conrad was going to be a bit of a
    bastard...

    I didn't.

    It's TV... Nobody is THAT nice and smarmy without having some
    agenda.

    Meh. I object! If it's that predictable, it should not be used.

    Well, I am sure some people might have thought Conrad was a
    genuine bloke and that himself and Ruby would live happily ever
    after.

    I didn't!

    It's a trope! ;-)

    Lame.

    There will always be some sort of trope in an ongoing TV series.
    A seemingly good guy that is really a bad guy is fairly common.

    Oh, and beware of fake news too... we all know about that
    one don't we? So never believe what they tell you. It's
    all a conspiracy! #DemandTheTruth

    Yeah, Soap boxing, sigh. Reminded me of good old Quincy,
    where every episode was about one soap box or another.

    It's TV... There has to be a 'message' in everything!

    I object!

    A script is telling a story, there will usually be some sort of
    message. Okay, maybe sometimes it can be a bit more in your face
    these days as writers and producers think we are all stupid. But
    Doctor Who having a message is nothing new... for instance, "The
    Green Death" (from 1973) had a message in the script and it
    worked well within the story... it was not in-your-face "soap
    boxing" the way modern TV shows go about it.

    Just as there's always a twist at the end, there's always a
    message to get across.

    If it's that predictable, it's no longer a valid element of a
    story.

    Depends on what the message is and how good the actual story
    that it's wrapped up in is. It doesn't always have to be a
    political allegory... but there's usually some sort of a
    message somewhere, even if it's only subtle. Unfortunately RTD
    doesn't tend to do subtle!

    as well as being a [kind of] prequel setting up "The War
    Between the Land and the Sea"

    What? What did I miss?

    Nothing yet. Prequel means before...

    But you said something about setting up. What was there that
    set up anything?

    The spin-off show "The War Between the Land and the Sea", which
    will feature the UNIT characters featured in this episode... as
    well as the Sea Devils.

    (This has been mentioned here before.)

    Stay tuned until November/December for the answer.

    What? Why then?

    That's when "The War Between the Land and the Sea" will be
    broadcast...

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Mickmane on Wed May 7 14:41:56 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <H0QiTEtaczB@ATH>, Mickmane <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 07.05.25, Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:

    [commentators watching and ranting rather than doing something else]

    Now-a-days there are plenty of options!!

    Too many. Which is why TV shows nowadays need to be more about
    telling a good story and keeping people engaged. If people get
    bored halfway through a show, they'll just switch over to
    something else, and if people really dislike a specific show,
    they won't watch it again.

    Viewer ratings are down everywhere because people have too many
    options and they can dip-in and dip-out of TV shows to find
    something that interests them.

    These days most films even have a wiki, so I can read the plot and more >importantly the end, to see if I even want to watch it in the first
    place. :)


    Preview by wiki.

    --

    Mickmane



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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Wed May 7 14:43:38 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    Mickmane wrote:

    On 07.05.25, Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:

    [commentators watching and ranting rather than doing something
    else]

    Now-a-days there are plenty of options!!

    Too many. Which is why TV shows nowadays need to be more
    about telling a good story and keeping people engaged. If
    people get bored halfway through a show, they'll just switch
    over to something else, and if people really dislike a
    specific show, they won't watch it again.

    Viewer ratings are down everywhere because people have too
    many options and they can dip-in and dip-out of TV shows to
    find something that interests them.

    These days most films even have a wiki, so I can read the plot
    and more importantly the end, to see if I even want to watch
    it in the first place. :)

    Different!

    Still, if you're in a rush I suppose it enables people to
    maximise their spare time... :-)


    If maximisable.





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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Wed May 7 14:44:12 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    Mickmane wrote:

    On 05.05.25, Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    Mickmane wrote:
    On 04.05.25, Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:

    Yes, we all knew that Conrad was going to be a bit of a
    bastard...

    I didn't.

    It's TV... Nobody is THAT nice and smarmy without having some
    agenda.

    Meh. I object! If it's that predictable, it should not be used.

    Well, I am sure some people might have thought Conrad was a
    genuine bloke and that himself and Ruby would live happily ever
    after.

    I didn't!

    It's a trope! ;-)

    Lame.

    There will always be some sort of trope in an ongoing TV series.
    A seemingly good guy that is really a bad guy is fairly common.

    Oh, and beware of fake news too... we all know about that
    one don't we? So never believe what they tell you. It's
    all a conspiracy! #DemandTheTruth

    Yeah, Soap boxing, sigh. Reminded me of good old Quincy,
    where every episode was about one soap box or another.

    It's TV... There has to be a 'message' in everything!

    I object!

    A script is telling a story, there will usually be some sort of
    message. Okay, maybe sometimes it can be a bit more in your face
    these days as writers and producers think we are all stupid. But
    Doctor Who having a message is nothing new... for instance, "The
    Green Death" (from 1973) had a message in the script and it
    worked well within the story... it was not in-your-face "soap
    boxing" the way modern TV shows go about it.

    Just as there's always a twist at the end, there's always a
    message to get across.

    If it's that predictable, it's no longer a valid element of a
    story.

    Depends on what the message is and how good the actual story
    that it's wrapped up in is. It doesn't always have to be a
    political allegory... but there's usually some sort of a
    message somewhere, even if it's only subtle. Unfortunately RTD
    doesn't tend to do subtle!

    as well as being a [kind of] prequel setting up "The War
    Between the Land and the Sea"

    What? What did I miss?

    Nothing yet. Prequel means before...

    But you said something about setting up. What was there that
    set up anything?

    The spin-off show "The War Between the Land and the Sea", which
    will feature the UNIT characters featured in this episode... as
    well as the Sea Devils.

    (This has been mentioned here before.)

    Stay tuned until November/December for the answer.

    What? Why then?

    That's when "The War Between the Land and the Sea" will be
    broadcast...

    All will be revealed.
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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Thu May 8 09:32:16 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    Mickmane wrote:
    On 05.05.25, Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:

    Stay tuned until November/December for the answer.

    What? Why then?

    That's when "The War Between the Land and the Sea" will be
    broadcast...

    All will be revealed.

    Another great insight there Dave...

    I'm sure the usual suspects will complain about it once it does
    air though... the Sea Devils didn't exactly go down well on
    their last outing three years ago.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Thu May 8 10:54:52 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    Mickmane wrote:
    On 05.05.25, Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:

    Stay tuned until November/December for the answer.

    What? Why then?

    That's when "The War Between the Land and the Sea" will be
    broadcast...

    All will be revealed.

    Another great insight there Dave...

    I'm sure the usual suspects will complain about it once it does
    air though... the Sea Devils didn't exactly go down well on
    their last outing three years ago.

    given that was not really DW ...
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  • From Daniel70@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Thu May 8 23:17:28 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    On 8/05/2025 7:32 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>, Blueshirt
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    Mickmane wrote:
    On 05.05.25, Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:

    Stay tuned until November/December for the answer.

    What? Why then?

    That's when "The War Between the Land and the Sea" will be
    broadcast...

    All will be revealed.

    Another great insight there Dave...

    I'm sure the usual suspects will complain about it once it does air
    though

    And who on Earth could you be refering to there, Blueshirt??

    Let me guess ..... Umm!! Umm!!

    ... the Sea Devils didn't exactly go down well on their last outing
    three years ago.

    But that was then. This is NOW!! (living in HOPE!!)
    --
    Daniel70

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 8 15:19:53 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 8/05/2025 7:32 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>, Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:

    That's when "The War Between the Land and the Sea" will
    be broadcast...

    All will be revealed.

    Another great insight there Dave...

    I'm sure the usual suspects will complain about it once it
    does air though

    And who on Earth could you be refering to there, Blueshirt??

    Let me guess ..... Umm!! Umm!!

    To be fair, I didn't think much of "Legend of the Sea Devils"
    either... the story or the Sea Devils themselves. So it'll be
    interesting to see how they are depicted in the spin-off. (Not
    leaping around like Super Mario hopefully!)

    After the Daleks the Sea Devils were my favourite Doctor Who
    'monster'...

    ... the Sea Devils didn't exactly go down well on their last
    outing three years ago.

    But that was then. This is NOW!! (living in HOPE!!)

    We always live in hope!

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Thu May 8 23:38:11 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 8/05/2025 7:32 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>, Blueshirt
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    That's when "The War Between the Land and the Sea" will
    be broadcast...

    All will be revealed.

    Another great insight there Dave...

    I'm sure the usual suspects will complain about it once it
    does air though

    And who on Earth could you be refering to there, Blueshirt??

    Let me guess ..... Umm!! Umm!!

    To be fair, I didn't think much of "Legend of the Sea Devils"
    either... the story or the Sea Devils themselves. So it'll be
    interesting to see how they are depicted in the spin-off. (Not
    leaping around like Super Mario hopefully!)

    After the Daleks the Sea Devils were my favourite Doctor Who
    'monster'...

    Maybe a correction is in order.


    ... the Sea Devils didn't exactly go down well on their last
    outing three years ago.

    But that was then. This is NOW!! (living in HOPE!!)

    We always live in hope!



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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu May 8 23:37:45 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <vviat6$1qji3$[email protected]>,
    Daniel70 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 8/05/2025 7:32 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>, Blueshirt
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    Mickmane wrote:
    On 05.05.25, Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:

    Stay tuned until November/December for the answer.

    What? Why then?

    That's when "The War Between the Land and the Sea" will be
    broadcast...

    All will be revealed.

    Another great insight there Dave...

    I'm sure the usual suspects will complain about it once it does air
    though

    And who on Earth could you be refering to there, Blueshirt??

    Let me guess ..... Umm!! Umm!!

    ... the Sea Devils didn't exactly go down well on their last outing
    three years ago.

    But that was then. This is NOW!! (living in HOPE!!)

    Whe was the last live DW Episode you saw?

    --
    Daniel70


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  • From Daniel70@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Fri May 9 21:51:15 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    On 9/05/2025 9:37 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <vviat6$1qji3$[email protected]>,
    Daniel70 <[email protected]> wrote:

    <Snip>

    But that was then. This is NOW!! (living in HOPE!!)

    Whe was the last live DW Episode you saw?

    "Whe"??
    --
    Daniel70

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