• Docotr Who S15/S2 - Ep1: The Robot Revolution

    From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 12 20:18:48 2025
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    Well, here we are at long last...a new season of Doctor Who on
    the TV.

    My first impressions of "The Robot Revolution" were quite good
    all things considering. I found it an interesting episode that
    certainly isn't as bad as some people make it out to be. We are
    all different so it's fair enough if some people didn't like it,
    but for me it wasn't that bad at all. In fact, I thought it was
    a fun romp. "The Robot Revolution" won't go down as a great
    Doctor Who episode mind you, but it had its good moments.

    I've always said that Ncuti Gatwa makes a good 15th Doctor and
    despite some dodgy dialogue I thought he put in a good
    performance in this episode. The new companion Belinda came
    across very well too, she certainly wasn't in awe of the Doctor
    like some companions have been... in fact, she was quite a no
    nonsense type of girl. "I am not one of your adventures" being
    one of my favourite quotes from this episode. ("Am I Six?" when
    the Doctor said "Timey-Wimey" being another.) With the right
    material the 15th Doctor and Belinda could become a really good
    team... if short lived.

    The complaint around a lot of modern Doctor Who episodes being
    rushed could be repeated here too as the pace of this episode
    was very quick and I assume some stuff was left in the editing
    room... stuff with a bit more explanation to some things
    especially! Belinda's question "Is this your TARDIS" stood out
    too, so either the Doctor telling her about the TARDIS was cut
    or there are bigger things at play with Belinda and it's all
    part of her arc.

    Mrs Flood's brief appearance at the start and her 'fourth wall'
    breaking comment is clearly foreshadowing something big later on
    too.. as her comment was meaningless in regards to this episode.
    I'm still in the 'she is the Rani' camp. (Rani is an anagram of
    rain - too much rain and you get a flood... Seems simple enough,
    right? But as we know RTD likes his misdirections and
    double-bluffs!)

    So, not a bad start to this new season and a definite
    improvement on last year's opener...

    Overall I'd give "The Robot Revolution" a 6/10 rating.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sat Apr 12 20:22:50 2025
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    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    Well, here we are at long last...a new season of Doctor Who on
    the TV.

    My first impressions of "The Robot Revolution" were quite good
    all things considering. I found it an interesting episode that
    certainly isn't as bad as some people make it out to be. We are
    all different so it's fair enough if some people didn't like it,
    but for me it wasn't that bad at all. In fact, I thought it was
    a fun romp. "The Robot Revolution" won't go down as a great
    Doctor Who episode mind you, but it had its good moments.

    I've always said that Ncuti Gatwa makes a good 15th Doctor and
    despite some dodgy dialogue I thought he put in a good
    performance in this episode. The new companion Belinda came
    across very well too, she certainly wasn't in awe of the Doctor
    like some companions have been... in fact, she was quite a no
    nonsense type of girl. "I am not one of your adventures" being
    one of my favourite quotes from this episode. ("Am I Six?" when
    the Doctor said "Timey-Wimey" being another.) With the right
    material the 15th Doctor and Belinda could become a really good
    team... if short lived.

    The complaint around a lot of modern Doctor Who episodes being
    rushed could be repeated here too as the pace of this episode
    was very quick and I assume some stuff was left in the editing
    room... stuff with a bit more explanation to some things
    especially! Belinda's question "Is this your TARDIS" stood out
    too, so either the Doctor telling her about the TARDIS was cut
    or there are bigger things at play with Belinda and it's all
    part of her arc.

    Mrs Flood's brief appearance at the start and her 'fourth wall'
    breaking comment is clearly foreshadowing something big later on
    too.. as her comment was meaningless in regards to this episode.
    I'm still in the 'she is the Rani' camp. (Rani is an anagram of
    rain - too much rain and you get a flood... Seems simple enough,
    right? But as we know RTD likes his misdirections and
    double-bluffs!)

    So, not a bad start to this new season and a definite
    improvement on last year's opener...

    Overall I'd give "The Robot Revolution" a 6/10 rating.

    1 + 6 + 5 all divided by 3 is 4 .
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  • From The True Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sun Apr 13 00:42:21 2025
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    On 12/04/2025 21:18, Blueshirt wrote:
    Well, here we are at long last...a new season of Doctor Who on
    the TV.

    My first impressions of "The Robot Revolution" were quite good
    all things considering. I found it an interesting episode that
    certainly isn't as bad as some people make it out to be. We are
    all different so it's fair enough if some people didn't like it,
    but for me it wasn't that bad at all. In fact, I thought it was
    a fun romp. "The Robot Revolution" won't go down as a great
    Doctor Who episode mind you, but it had its good moments.


    It was an example of lazy writing used by a woke pervert in order to
    create a false woke narrative attacking men and masculinity in order to
    make society childish and effeminate so that he can prey on children.

    Where were the strong positive male role models to follow? Every
    representation of a man was childish and negative.

    I've always said that Ncuti Gatwa makes a good 15th Doctor and

    No he doesn't. The cross dressing pervert that wants to entice
    vulnerable children by wearing women's clothing can't even consistently
    say his lines in the same accent. It keeps changing every other line.

    despite some dodgy dialogue I thought he put in a good
    performance in this episode. The new companion Belinda came

    He's shit in every episode and that's why the show has lost 4/5 of it's audience. People don't want to watch his gay mincing around. He's a
    mentally sick pervert that cries like a little baby girl in every single episode. Is that the example you want your children to follow?

    across very well too, she certainly wasn't in awe of the Doctor
    like some companions have been... in fact, she was quite a no
    nonsense type of girl. "I am not one of your adventures" being
    one of my favourite quotes from this episode. ("Am I Six?" when
    the Doctor said "Timey-Wimey" being another.) With the right
    material the 15th Doctor and Belinda could become a really good
    team... if short lived.

    No they wouldn't. She's a man hating Mary Sue that learned absolutely
    nothing in this story.


    The complaint around a lot of modern Doctor Who episodes being
    rushed could be repeated here too as the pace of this episode
    was very quick and I assume some stuff was left in the editing
    room... stuff with a bit more explanation to some things

    The problem isn't the editing. The problem is the lazy and sloppy writing.

    All that the pervert RTD cares about is how to insert his hypocritical,
    sick, degenerate woke message. He even said that himself. He doesn't
    care about good writing. He thinks it's good only if it contains the
    message.

    especially! Belinda's question "Is this your TARDIS" stood out
    too, so either the Doctor telling her about the TARDIS was cut
    or there are bigger things at play with Belinda and it's all
    part of her arc.

    She's the Rani. They kept calling her Queen (Rani) all the time and
    people in the future look like her as if she regenerated back into an
    old body.


    Mrs Flood's brief appearance at the start and her 'fourth wall'
    breaking comment is clearly foreshadowing something big later on
    too.. as her comment was meaningless in regards to this episode.
    I'm still in the 'she is the Rani' camp. (Rani is an anagram of

    They can both be the Rani. She knows what's going to happen because
    she's been there as Queen Belinda.

    rain - too much rain and you get a flood... Seems simple enough,
    right? But as we know RTD likes his misdirections and
    double-bluffs!)

    Except Rani means Queen not rain.

    So, not a bad start to this new season and a definite
    improvement on last year's opener...

    Overall I'd give "The Robot Revolution" a 6/10 rating.
    It was woke garbage attacking false woke negative stereotypes of men
    therefore it deserves not more than a 1 our of 10.
    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
    stands for." -William Shatner

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to [email protected]_SPAM on Sat Apr 12 23:46:19 2025
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    In article <vtetot$1j4i2$[email protected]>,
    The True Doctor <[email protected]_SPAM> wrote:
    On 12/04/2025 21:18, Blueshirt wrote:
    Well, here we are at long last...a new season of Doctor Who on
    the TV.

    My first impressions of "The Robot Revolution" were quite good
    all things considering. I found it an interesting episode that
    certainly isn't as bad as some people make it out to be. We are
    all different so it's fair enough if some people didn't like it,
    but for me it wasn't that bad at all. In fact, I thought it was
    a fun romp. "The Robot Revolution" won't go down as a great
    Doctor Who episode mind you, but it had its good moments.


    It was an example of lazy writing used by a woke pervert in order to
    create a false woke narrative attacking men and masculinity in order to
    make society childish and effeminate so that he can prey on children.

    Where were the strong positive male role models to follow? Every >representation of a man was childish and negative.

    I've always said that Ncuti Gatwa makes a good 15th Doctor and

    No he doesn't. The cross dressing pervert that wants to entice
    vulnerable children by wearing women's clothing can't even consistently
    say his lines in the same accent. It keeps changing every other line.

    despite some dodgy dialogue I thought he put in a good
    performance in this episode. The new companion Belinda came

    He's shit in every episode and that's why the show has lost 4/5 of it's >audience. People don't want to watch his gay mincing around. He's a
    mentally sick pervert that cries like a little baby girl in every single >episode. Is that the example you want your children to follow?

    across very well too, she certainly wasn't in awe of the Doctor
    like some companions have been... in fact, she was quite a no
    nonsense type of girl. "I am not one of your adventures" being
    one of my favourite quotes from this episode. ("Am I Six?" when
    the Doctor said "Timey-Wimey" being another.) With the right
    material the 15th Doctor and Belinda could become a really good
    team... if short lived.

    No they wouldn't. She's a man hating Mary Sue that learned absolutely
    nothing in this story.


    The complaint around a lot of modern Doctor Who episodes being
    rushed could be repeated here too as the pace of this episode
    was very quick and I assume some stuff was left in the editing
    room... stuff with a bit more explanation to some things

    The problem isn't the editing. The problem is the lazy and sloppy writing.

    All that the pervert RTD cares about is how to insert his hypocritical,
    sick, degenerate woke message. He even said that himself. He doesn't
    care about good writing. He thinks it's good only if it contains the
    message.

    especially! Belinda's question "Is this your TARDIS" stood out
    too, so either the Doctor telling her about the TARDIS was cut
    or there are bigger things at play with Belinda and it's all
    part of her arc.

    She's the Rani. They kept calling her Queen (Rani) all the time and
    people in the future look like her as if she regenerated back into an
    old body.


    Mrs Flood's brief appearance at the start and her 'fourth wall'
    breaking comment is clearly foreshadowing something big later on
    too.. as her comment was meaningless in regards to this episode.
    I'm still in the 'she is the Rani' camp. (Rani is an anagram of

    They can both be the Rani. She knows what's going to happen because
    she's been there as Queen Belinda.

    rain - too much rain and you get a flood... Seems simple enough,
    right? But as we know RTD likes his misdirections and
    double-bluffs!)

    Except Rani means Queen not rain.

    So, not a bad start to this new season and a definite
    improvement on last year's opener...

    Overall I'd give "The Robot Revolution" a 6/10 rating.
    It was woke garbage attacking false woke negative stereotypes of men >therefore it deserves not more than a 1 our of 10.

    And Indian Girl looks like she hates men.

    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." -William Shatner


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  • From Theory11@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Sun Apr 13 06:47:36 2025
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    On Sat, 12 Apr 2025 20:22:50 +0000, The Doctor wrote:

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    Well, here we are at long last...a new season of Doctor Who on
    the TV.

    My first impressions of "The Robot Revolution" were quite good
    all things considering. I found it an interesting episode that
    certainly isn't as bad as some people make it out to be. We are
    all different so it's fair enough if some people didn't like it,
    but for me it wasn't that bad at all. In fact, I thought it was
    a fun romp. "The Robot Revolution" won't go down as a great
    Doctor Who episode mind you, but it had its good moments.

    I've always said that Ncuti Gatwa makes a good 15th Doctor and
    despite some dodgy dialogue I thought he put in a good
    performance in this episode. The new companion Belinda came
    across very well too, she certainly wasn't in awe of the Doctor
    like some companions have been... in fact, she was quite a no
    nonsense type of girl. "I am not one of your adventures" being
    one of my favourite quotes from this episode. ("Am I Six?" when
    the Doctor said "Timey-Wimey" being another.) With the right
    material the 15th Doctor and Belinda could become a really good
    team... if short lived.

    The complaint around a lot of modern Doctor Who episodes being
    rushed could be repeated here too as the pace of this episode
    was very quick and I assume some stuff was left in the editing
    room... stuff with a bit more explanation to some things
    especially! Belinda's question "Is this your TARDIS" stood out
    too, so either the Doctor telling her about the TARDIS was cut
    or there are bigger things at play with Belinda and it's all
    part of her arc.

    Mrs Flood's brief appearance at the start and her 'fourth wall'
    breaking comment is clearly foreshadowing something big later on
    too.. as her comment was meaningless in regards to this episode.
    I'm still in the 'she is the Rani' camp. (Rani is an anagram of
    rain - too much rain and you get a flood... Seems simple enough,
    right? But as we know RTD likes his misdirections and
    double-bluffs!)

    So, not a bad start to this new season and a definite
    improvement on last year's opener...

    Overall I'd give "The Robot Revolution" a 6/10 rating.

    1 + 6 + 5 all divided by 3 is 4 .

    Four out of ten sounds about right. I never bothered giving a rating,
    had I done so it would have been around the 4/10 mark.

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The True Doctor on Sun Apr 13 08:49:27 2025
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    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 12/04/2025 21:18, Blueshirt wrote:

    Belinda's question "Is this your TARDIS" stood out
    too, so either the Doctor telling her about the TARDIS
    was cut or there are bigger things at play with Belinda and
    it's all part of her arc.

    She's the Rani. They kept calling her Queen (Rani) all the
    time and people in the future look like her as if she
    regenerated back into an old body.

    I wonder if she was Isaac Newton in another incarnation then
    and she has been the one playing around with time, the
    universes... and mavity?!

    Same colour after all!

    Mrs Flood's brief appearance at the start and her 'fourth
    wall' breaking comment is clearly foreshadowing something
    big later on too.. as her comment was meaningless in regards
    to this episode. I'm still in the 'she is the Rani' camp.
    (Rani is an anagram of rain - too much rain and you get a
    flood... Seems simple enough, right?)

    They can both be the Rani. She knows what's going to happen
    because she's been there as Queen Belinda.

    Mrs Flood could be Susan then. <shrugs>

    But as we know RTD likes his misdirections and
    double-bluffs!)

    Except Rani means Queen not rain.

    And? My guess is as good as yours. RTD likes to misdirect as we
    have already seen.

    Plus, we won't have to wade through your rants about an Indian
    Rani if it turns out that Mrs Flood was Susan or A.N.Other Time
    Lord...

    So, not a bad start to this new season and a definite
    improvement on last year's opener...

    Overall I'd give "The Robot Revolution" a 6/10 rating.

    It was woke garbage attacking false woke negative stereotypes
    of men therefore it deserves not more than a 1 our of 10.

    Still, a 1/10 rating from you is not bad either.

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Sun Apr 13 08:53:21 2025
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    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <vtetot$1j4i2$[email protected]>,
    The True Doctor <[email protected]_SPAM> wrote:
    On 12/04/2025 21:18, Blueshirt wrote:

    So, not a bad start to this new season and a definite
    improvement on last year's opener...

    Overall I'd give "The Robot Revolution" a 6/10 rating.

    It was woke garbage attacking false woke negative
    stereotypes of men therefore it deserves not more than a 1
    our of 10.

    And Indian Girl looks like she hates men.

    Because you are such a great judge of women just by looking at
    them aren't you Dave?

    <Rose Noble - hint hint!>

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  • From The True Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sun Apr 13 10:03:08 2025
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    On 13/04/2025 09:53, Blueshirt wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <vtetot$1j4i2$[email protected]>,
    The True Doctor <[email protected]_SPAM> wrote:
    On 12/04/2025 21:18, Blueshirt wrote:

    So, not a bad start to this new season and a definite
    improvement on last year's opener...

    Overall I'd give "The Robot Revolution" a 6/10 rating.

    It was woke garbage attacking false woke negative
    stereotypes of men therefore it deserves not more than a 1
    our of 10.

    And Indian Girl looks like she hates men.

    Because you are such a great judge of women just by looking at
    them aren't you Dave?


    Except for that fact that he's right. She's a brainwashed misandrist of
    very low intelligence. Someone with intelligence would not have accepted
    a proposal to get engaged or even taken part in a relationship with a
    man she barely even knows and has no common views or interests with.

    <Rose Noble - hint hint!>
    Jason Noble was a misandristic bigot too.
    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
    stands for." -William Shatner

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The True Doctor on Sun Apr 13 09:10:32 2025
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    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 13/04/2025 09:53, Blueshirt wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    And Indian Girl looks like she hates men.

    Because you are such a great judge of women just by looking
    at them aren't you Dave?

    Except for that fact that he's right.

    Please don't do that this early on a Sunday morning!

    She's a brainwashed misandrist of very low intelligence.

    I thought she was The Rani?

    Someone with intelligence would not have accepted a proposal
    to get engaged or even taken part in a relationship with a man
    she barely even knows and has no common views or interests
    with.

    Well... is she is The Rani then it's all an act then, isn't it?

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  • From John Hall@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Apr 13 10:59:42 2025
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    In message <[email protected]>, Blueshirt <[email protected]> writes
    Well, here we are at long last...a new season of Doctor Who on
    the TV.

    My first impressions of "The Robot Revolution" were quite good
    all things considering. I found it an interesting episode that
    certainly isn't as bad as some people make it out to be. We are
    all different so it's fair enough if some people didn't like it,
    but for me it wasn't that bad at all. In fact, I thought it was
    a fun romp. "The Robot Revolution" won't go down as a great
    Doctor Who episode mind you, but it had its good moments.

    Agreed. It was bonkers of course but very entertainingly so. One big
    plus point was that it didn't end with a speech by the Doctor preaching
    to the audience, as has happened far too often in recent seasons. A good
    story should result in the moral - if any - being apparent to the viewer
    rather than needing to shove it down their throat.


    I've always said that Ncuti Gatwa makes a good 15th Doctor and
    despite some dodgy dialogue I thought he put in a good
    performance in this episode. The new companion Belinda came
    across very well too, she certainly wasn't in awe of the Doctor
    like some companions have been... in fact, she was quite a no
    nonsense type of girl. "I am not one of your adventures" being
    one of my favourite quotes from this episode. ("Am I Six?" when
    the Doctor said "Timey-Wimey" being another.) With the right
    material the 15th Doctor and Belinda could become a really good
    team... if short lived.

    I agree again. I was impressed by the actress's performance.

    <snip>


    So, not a bad start to this new season and a definite
    improvement on last year's opener...

    Overall I'd give "The Robot Revolution" a 6/10 rating.

    Perhaps I'm in a generous mood, but I'd give it 7.
    --
    John Hall
    "I look upon it, that he who does not mind his belly,
    will hardly mind anything else."
    Dr Samuel Johnson (1709-84)

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to John Hall on Sun Apr 13 10:07:58 2025
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    John Hall wrote:

    In message <[email protected]>, Blueshirt <[email protected]> writes

    So, not a bad start to this new season and a definite
    improvement on last year's opener...

    Overall I'd give "The Robot Revolution" a 6/10 rating.

    Perhaps I'm in a generous mood, but I'd give it 7.

    I thought about a 7 but I was a bit over excited last year with
    some ratings early on which after repeat viewings needed to be
    adjusted, so I went with the conservative option to start off
    this season.

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  • From Daniel70@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Sun Apr 13 21:34:16 2025
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    On 13/04/2025 6:22 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    Well, here we are at long last...a new season of Doctor Who on
    the TV.

    <Snip>

    Mrs Flood's brief appearance at the start and her 'fourth wall'
    breaking comment is clearly foreshadowing something big later on
    too.. as her comment was meaningless in regards to this episode.
    I'm still in the 'she is the Rani' camp. (Rani is an anagram of
    rain - too much rain and you get a flood... Seems simple enough,
    right? But as we know RTD likes his misdirections and
    double-bluffs!)

    So, not a bad start to this new season and a definite
    improvement on last year's opener...

    Overall I'd give "The Robot Revolution" a 6/10 rating.

    1 + 6 + 5 all divided by 3 is 4 .

    What about the two 7/10 ratings that YOU, Binky, gave the Episode??

    1 + 6 + 5 + 7 + 7 = 26 divided by 5 is 5.2!!
    --
    Daniel70

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Apr 13 11:48:02 2025
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    In article <[email protected]>,
    Theory11 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Apr 2025 20:22:50 +0000, The Doctor wrote:

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    Well, here we are at long last...a new season of Doctor Who on
    the TV.

    My first impressions of "The Robot Revolution" were quite good
    all things considering. I found it an interesting episode that
    certainly isn't as bad as some people make it out to be. We are
    all different so it's fair enough if some people didn't like it,
    but for me it wasn't that bad at all. In fact, I thought it was
    a fun romp. "The Robot Revolution" won't go down as a great
    Doctor Who episode mind you, but it had its good moments.

    I've always said that Ncuti Gatwa makes a good 15th Doctor and
    despite some dodgy dialogue I thought he put in a good
    performance in this episode. The new companion Belinda came
    across very well too, she certainly wasn't in awe of the Doctor
    like some companions have been... in fact, she was quite a no
    nonsense type of girl. "I am not one of your adventures" being
    one of my favourite quotes from this episode. ("Am I Six?" when
    the Doctor said "Timey-Wimey" being another.) With the right
    material the 15th Doctor and Belinda could become a really good
    team... if short lived.

    The complaint around a lot of modern Doctor Who episodes being
    rushed could be repeated here too as the pace of this episode
    was very quick and I assume some stuff was left in the editing
    room... stuff with a bit more explanation to some things
    especially! Belinda's question "Is this your TARDIS" stood out
    too, so either the Doctor telling her about the TARDIS was cut
    or there are bigger things at play with Belinda and it's all
    part of her arc.

    Mrs Flood's brief appearance at the start and her 'fourth wall'
    breaking comment is clearly foreshadowing something big later on
    too.. as her comment was meaningless in regards to this episode.
    I'm still in the 'she is the Rani' camp. (Rani is an anagram of
    rain - too much rain and you get a flood... Seems simple enough,
    right? But as we know RTD likes his misdirections and
    double-bluffs!)

    So, not a bad start to this new season and a definite
    improvement on last year's opener...

    Overall I'd give "The Robot Revolution" a 6/10 rating.

    1 + 6 + 5 all divided by 3 is 4 .

    Four out of ten sounds about right. I never bothered giving a rating,
    had I done so it would have been around the 4/10 mark.

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    So 1 + 6 + 5 +4 all divided by 4 then!
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sun Apr 13 11:56:27 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 12/04/2025 21:18, Blueshirt wrote:

    Belinda's question "Is this your TARDIS" stood out
    too, so either the Doctor telling her about the TARDIS
    was cut or there are bigger things at play with Belinda and
    it's all part of her arc.

    She's the Rani. They kept calling her Queen (Rani) all the
    time and people in the future look like her as if she
    regenerated back into an old body.

    I wonder if she was Isaac Newton in another incarnation then
    and she has been the one playing around with time, the
    universes... and mavity?!

    Same colour after all!

    Mrs Flood's brief appearance at the start and her 'fourth
    wall' breaking comment is clearly foreshadowing something
    big later on too.. as her comment was meaningless in regards
    to this episode. I'm still in the 'she is the Rani' camp.
    (Rani is an anagram of rain - too much rain and you get a
    flood... Seems simple enough, right?)

    They can both be the Rani. She knows what's going to happen
    because she's been there as Queen Belinda.

    Mrs Flood could be Susan then. <shrugs>

    But as we know RTD likes his misdirections and
    double-bluffs!)

    Except Rani means Queen not rain.

    And? My guess is as good as yours. RTD likes to misdirect as we
    have already seen.

    Plus, we won't have to wade through your rants about an Indian
    Rani if it turns out that Mrs Flood was Susan or A.N.Other Time
    Lord...

    So, not a bad start to this new season and a definite
    improvement on last year's opener...

    Overall I'd give "The Robot Revolution" a 6/10 rating.

    It was woke garbage attacking false woke negative stereotypes
    of men therefore it deserves not more than a 1 our of 10.

    Still, a 1/10 rating from you is not bad either.


    Well only the AIs are it a 7/10 !
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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Sun Apr 13 12:27:11 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <vtg7fj$2qfsk$[email protected]>,
    Daniel70 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 13/04/2025 6:22 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:

    Overall I'd give "The Robot Revolution" a 6/10 rating.

    1 + 6 + 5 all divided by 3 is 4 .

    What about the two 7/10 ratings that YOU, Binky, gave the
    Episode??

    1 + 6 + 5 + 7 + 7 = 26 divided by 5 is 5.2!!

    AL reviews not counted yet.

    Well done Dave... I love a bit of topical humour! :-)

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  • From The True Doctor@21:1/5 to John Hall on Sun Apr 13 23:40:14 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    On 13/04/2025 10:59, John Hall wrote:
    In message <[email protected]>, Blueshirt <[email protected]> writes
    Well, here we are at long last...a new season of Doctor Who on the
    TV.

    My first impressions of "The Robot Revolution" were quite good all
    things considering. I found it an interesting episode that
    certainly isn't as bad as some people make it out to be. We are
    all different so it's fair enough if some people didn't like it,
    but for me it wasn't that bad at all. In fact, I thought it was a
    fun romp. "The Robot Revolution" won't go down as a great Doctor
    Who episode mind you, but it had its good moments.

    Agreed. It was bonkers of course but very entertainingly so. One
    big plus point was that it didn't end with a speech by the Doctor
    preaching to the audience, as has happened far too often in recent
    seasons. A good story should result in the moral - if any - being
    apparent to the viewer rather than needing to shove it down their
    throat.


    And the moral of the story was what? Incels are bad? Geeks are all
    incels and therefore bad? Doctor Who fans are geeks and therefore incels
    and therefore bad? Heterosexuals abuse women and are therefore all bad?

    How about this instead. Russell T Davies is a sick disgusting sexual
    predator and he is transposing his degeneracy to the audience and
    blaming them for his inadequacies instead of coming to terms with his
    sickening lusts and desires and belief that people are nothing more than
    meat to give him pleasure for his insatiable lusts.

    This pervert in his writing demonstrates that he does not understand
    meaningful relationships that are based on mutual trust and common
    interests, desires, and family valuse. Instead of characterising incels
    as lust driven sexual predators such himself, which is what they are,
    this pervert characterises them as shy geeks that are afraid to talk to
    women, by creating false woke derogatory stereotypes of heterosexual
    men. It's not shy geeks that mistreat and abuse people they are in a relationship with, and try to coerce and control them and hold them
    hostage in toxic relationships, it's sexual predators like RTD himself,
    that constantly try to chat others up with disgusting language and will
    not desist when told to leave the other person alone. The pervert
    Russell T Davis and people like him are the true incels.

    It's clear the sick disgusting piece of shit has never been in a
    relationship with a women because if he had he'd know exactly the type
    of man that they don't to talk to them. It's people like himself.

    This homosexual bigot that says only gay actors should play roles
    because only they can understand what it is to be gay should take his
    own advice. He isn't heterosexual so he should be allowed to even
    attempt to write about heterosexual relationships because being gay he
    doesn't understand a single thing about them.


    I've always said that Ncuti Gatwa makes a good 15th Doctor and
    despite some dodgy dialogue I thought he put in a good performance
    in this episode. The new companion Belinda came across very well
    too, she certainly wasn't in awe of the Doctor like some
    companions have been... in fact, she was quite a no nonsense type
    of girl. "I am not one of your adventures" being one of my
    favourite quotes from this episode. ("Am I Six?" when the Doctor
    said "Timey-Wimey" being another.) With the right material the
    15th Doctor and Belinda could become a really good team... if
    short lived.

    I agree again. I was impressed by the actress's performance.


    She came across as a man hating bigot.

    Why was she involved in a relationship with this Alen person in the
    first place when they have no common interests and as is demonstrated
    know virtually nothing about each other? She hates astronomy and he
    loves it. Why would she accept a proposal of marriage with a man like
    that that she doesn't even understand? It yet another example of the
    depravity of the homosexual bigot Russell T Davies's own degenerate mind
    which doesn't believe in love but in sexual desire. A heterosexual woman
    would not accept a proposal from a man she barely knows but a homosexual
    man obviously would, because that's what Davies is portraying.

    Why is the pervert allowed to write stories for heterosexual audiences
    when his sick depraved mind which characterises shy geeks as incels
    doesn't understand heterosexuality and heterosexual relationship? He
    shouldn't be writing for mainstream television at all if he really
    believes in his own hypocritical statements.

    <snip>


    So, not a bad start to this new season and a definite improvement
    on last year's opener...

    Overall I'd give "The Robot Revolution" a 6/10 rating.

    Perhaps I'm in a generous mood, but I'd give it 7.
    For what?
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  • From Mickmane@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Apr 14 02:30:00 2025
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    On 14.04.25, Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:

    Well, here we are at long last...a new season of Doctor Who on
    the TV.

    My first impressions of "The Robot Revolution" were quite good
    all things considering. I found it an interesting episode that
    certainly isn't as bad as some people make it out to be.

    Anyone made it out to be bad?

    I like it! Apart from Sasha getting killed, and the crying bit. He's
    supposed to be the recovered one...

    In fact, I thought it was a fun romp. "The Robot Revolution" won't
    go down as a great Doctor Who episode mind you, but it had its good
    moments.

    Fancy, weird, crazy. Not much running, but overall good!

    I've always said that Ncuti Gatwa makes a good 15th Doctor and
    despite some dodgy dialogue I thought he put in a good
    performance in this episode. The new companion Belinda came
    across very well too, she certainly wasn't in awe of the Doctor
    like some companions have been...

    Yes!

    in fact, she was quite a no nonsense type of girl. "I am not one
    of your adventures" being one of my favourite quotes from this
    episode.

    Yes!

    ("Am I Six?" when the Doctor said "Timey-Wimey" being another.) With
    the right material the 15th Doctor and Belinda could become a really
    good team... if short lived.

    And, the Doctor and the Nurse. Sounds good to me.

    The complaint around a lot of modern Doctor Who episodes being
    rushed could be repeated here too as the pace of this episode
    was very quick and I assume some stuff was left in the editing
    room... stuff with a bit more explanation to some things
    especially!

    Hah. The whole time fracture thing, and how it was resolved... What!?

    Oh, never mind, it's fun. :)

    Belinda's question "Is this your TARDIS" stood out too, so either the
    Doctor telling her about the TARDIS was cut or there are bigger things
    at play with Belinda and it's all part of her arc.

    I was just thinking he must have told her off-screen.

    Mrs Flood's brief appearance at the start and her 'fourth wall'
    breaking comment is clearly foreshadowing something big later on
    too.. as her comment was meaningless in regards to this episode.

    Yeah. Back to who's Mrs Flood theories.

    I'm still in the 'she is the Rani' camp. (Rani is an anagram of
    rain - too much rain and you get a flood... Seems simple enough,
    right? But as we know RTD likes his misdirections and
    double-bluffs!)

    Hm, could be the Rani, but the bit with rain doesn't ring true.

    So, not a bad start to this new season and a definite
    improvement on last year's opener...

    What, Space Babies? I like Space Babies!

    Overall I'd give "The Robot Revolution" a 6/10 rating.

    Oh, at least 8/10 from me, let's see how the rest goes before I make up
    my mind for good.

    --

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Mickmane on Mon Apr 14 04:19:52 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <Gzrd2nYqczB@ATH>, Mickmane <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 14.04.25, Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:

    Well, here we are at long last...a new season of Doctor Who on
    the TV.

    My first impressions of "The Robot Revolution" were quite good
    all things considering. I found it an interesting episode that
    certainly isn't as bad as some people make it out to be.

    Anyone made it out to be bad?

    I like it! Apart from Sasha getting killed, and the crying bit. He's
    supposed to be the recovered one...

    In fact, I thought it was a fun romp. "The Robot Revolution" won't
    go down as a great Doctor Who episode mind you, but it had its good
    moments.

    Fancy, weird, crazy. Not much running, but overall good!

    I've always said that Ncuti Gatwa makes a good 15th Doctor and
    despite some dodgy dialogue I thought he put in a good
    performance in this episode. The new companion Belinda came
    across very well too, she certainly wasn't in awe of the Doctor
    like some companions have been...

    Yes!

    in fact, she was quite a no nonsense type of girl. "I am not one
    of your adventures" being one of my favourite quotes from this
    episode.

    Yes!

    ("Am I Six?" when the Doctor said "Timey-Wimey" being another.) With
    the right material the 15th Doctor and Belinda could become a really
    good team... if short lived.

    And, the Doctor and the Nurse. Sounds good to me.

    The complaint around a lot of modern Doctor Who episodes being
    rushed could be repeated here too as the pace of this episode
    was very quick and I assume some stuff was left in the editing
    room... stuff with a bit more explanation to some things
    especially!

    Hah. The whole time fracture thing, and how it was resolved... What!?

    Oh, never mind, it's fun. :)

    Belinda's question "Is this your TARDIS" stood out too, so either the
    Doctor telling her about the TARDIS was cut or there are bigger things
    at play with Belinda and it's all part of her arc.

    I was just thinking he must have told her off-screen.

    Mrs Flood's brief appearance at the start and her 'fourth wall'
    breaking comment is clearly foreshadowing something big later on
    too.. as her comment was meaningless in regards to this episode.

    Yeah. Back to who's Mrs Flood theories.

    I'm still in the 'she is the Rani' camp. (Rani is an anagram of
    rain - too much rain and you get a flood... Seems simple enough,
    right? But as we know RTD likes his misdirections and
    double-bluffs!)

    Hm, could be the Rani, but the bit with rain doesn't ring true.

    So, not a bad start to this new season and a definite
    improvement on last year's opener...

    What, Space Babies? I like Space Babies!


    Some peoples' tastes!

    Overall I'd give "The Robot Revolution" a 6/10 rating.

    Oh, at least 8/10 from me, let's see how the rest goes before I make up
    my mind for good.


    4.2 * 5 is 21

    +8 is 29

    /6

    is 4.83333333
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  • From The True Doctor@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Mon Apr 14 07:45:45 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    On 13/04/2025 12:59, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <vtfukd$2fem9$[email protected]>,
    The True Doctor <[email protected]_SPAM> wrote:
    On 13/04/2025 09:53, Blueshirt wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <vtetot$1j4i2$[email protected]>,
    The True Doctor <[email protected]_SPAM> wrote:
    On 12/04/2025 21:18, Blueshirt wrote:

    So, not a bad start to this new season and a definite
    improvement on last year's opener...

    Overall I'd give "The Robot Revolution" a 6/10 rating.

    It was woke garbage attacking false woke negative
    stereotypes of men therefore it deserves not more than a 1
    our of 10.

    And Indian Girl looks like she hates men.

    Because you are such a great judge of women just by looking at
    them aren't you Dave?


    Except for that fact that he's right. She's a brainwashed misandrist of
    very low intelligence. Someone with intelligence would not have accepted
    a proposal to get engaged or even taken part in a relationship with a
    man she barely even knows and has no common views or interests with.

    <Rose Noble - hint hint!>
    Jason Noble was a misandristic bigot too.

    And Donna Noble?


    Her as well.

    --
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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The True Doctor on Mon Apr 14 11:08:23 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 13/04/2025 10:59, John Hall wrote:
    In message <[email protected]>, Blueshirt <[email protected]> writes:

    The new companion Belinda came across very well
    too, she certainly wasn't in awe of the Doctor
    like some companions have been... in fact, she
    was quite a no nonsense type of girl. "I am not
    one of your adventures" being one of my favourite quotes
    from this episode. ("Am I Six?" when the Doctor said
    "Timey-Wimey" being another.) With the right material the
    15th Doctor and Belinda could become a really good team...
    if short lived.

    I agree again. I was impressed by the actress's performance.

    She came across as a man hating bigot.

    If so, then she was written that way... possibly for a reason?

    You do think she is The Rani after all...

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Mickmane on Mon Apr 14 11:25:07 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    Mickmane wrote:

    On 14.04.25, Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:

    Well, here we are at long last...a new season of Doctor Who
    on the TV.

    My first impressions of "The Robot Revolution" were quite
    good all things considering. I found it an interesting
    episode that certainly isn't as bad as some people make it
    out to be.

    Anyone made it out to be bad?

    Have you been paying attention?!

    I like it! Apart from Sasha getting killed, and the crying
    bit. He's supposed to be the recovered one...

    The crying seems to annoy a lot of people.

    In fact, I thought it was a fun romp. "The Robot Revolution"
    won't go down as a great Doctor Who episode mind you, but it
    had its good moments.

    Fancy, weird, crazy. Not much running, but overall good!

    I've always said that Ncuti Gatwa makes a good 15th Doctor
    and despite some dodgy dialogue I thought he put in a good
    performance in this episode. The new companion Belinda came
    across very well too, she certainly wasn't in awe of the
    Doctor like some companions have been...

    Yes!

    in fact, she was quite a no nonsense type of girl. "I am not
    one of your adventures" being one of my favourite quotes
    from this episode.

    Yes!

    ("Am I Six?" when the Doctor said "Timey-Wimey" being
    another.) With the right material the 15th Doctor and
    Belinda could become a really good team... if short lived.

    And, the Doctor and the Nurse. Sounds good to me.

    The complaint around a lot of modern Doctor Who episodes
    being rushed could be repeated here too as the pace of this
    episode was very quick and I assume some stuff was left in
    the editing room... stuff with a bit more explanation to
    some things especially!

    Hah. The whole time fracture thing, and how it was resolved...
    What!?

    Oh, never mind, it's fun. :)

    It was fun.

    Belinda's question "Is this your TARDIS" stood out too, so
    either the Doctor telling her about the TARDIS was cut or
    there are bigger things at play with Belinda and it's all
    part of her arc.

    I was just thinking he must have told her off-screen.

    I think that's generally how RTD does business... if it's not
    part of the plot then his lack of detail can be waved away as...
    "Oh, that happened off-screen".

    Mrs Flood's brief appearance at the start and her 'fourth
    wall' breaking comment is clearly foreshadowing something
    big later on too.. as her comment was meaningless in regards
    to this episode.

    Yeah. Back to who's Mrs Flood theories.

    That's fun too, until we get let down in the season finale when
    we find out who she actually is!

    We've been here before. ;-)

    I'm still in the 'she is the Rani' camp. (Rani is an anagram
    of rain - too much rain and you get a flood... Seems simple
    enough, right? But as we know RTD likes his misdirections and double-bluffs!)

    Hm, could be the Rani, but the bit with rain doesn't ring true.

    Well... IF SHE IS the Rani I'm sure RTD's logic will be there
    was a clue in her name!

    Agamemnon thinks The Rani is Belinda.

    It'd be funny if no Rani turned up in S2 and it was Romana and
    Susan!!!

    So, not a bad start to this new season and a definite
    improvement on last year's opener...

    What, Space Babies? I like Space Babies!

    It was an awful episode to start the new Doctor's first season.
    Amusing on first viewing, cue the juvenile laughing at a "snot
    monster" but it doesn't stand up to repeat viewings as the story
    itself was very shallow... and overall as part of S1 it was the
    worst episode of the season for me.

    I'd have been impressed if a twelve year old had written it, but
    a sixty year old man trying to be hip with the youngsters? Nah.

    Overall I'd give "The Robot Revolution" a 6/10 rating.

    Oh, at least 8/10 from me, let's see how the rest goes before
    I make up my mind for good.

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Mon Apr 14 12:01:16 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <Gzrd2nYqczB@ATH>, Mickmane <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 14.04.25, Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:

    So, not a bad start to this new season and a definite
    improvement on last year's opener...

    What, Space Babies? I like Space Babies!

    Some peoples' tastes!

    We are all different Dave... variety is the spice of life.

    Overall I'd give "The Robot Revolution" a 6/10 rating.

    Oh, at least 8/10 from me, let's see how the rest goes
    before I make up my mind for good.

    4.2 * 5 is 21

    +8 is 29

    /6

    is 4.83333333

    4.8/10 seems fair enough... it puts the episode in the average
    category, which it probably is.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Mon Apr 14 14:03:24 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 13/04/2025 10:59, John Hall wrote:
    In message <[email protected]>, Blueshirt
    <[email protected]> writes:

    The new companion Belinda came across very well
    too, she certainly wasn't in awe of the Doctor
    like some companions have been... in fact, she
    was quite a no nonsense type of girl. "I am not
    one of your adventures" being one of my favourite quotes
    from this episode. ("Am I Six?" when the Doctor said
    "Timey-Wimey" being another.) With the right material the
    15th Doctor and Belinda could become a really good team...
    if short lived.

    I agree again. I was impressed by the actress's performance.

    She came across as a man hating bigot.

    If so, then she was written that way... possibly for a reason?

    You do think she is The Rani after all...

    Belinda? Not the Rani.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Mon Apr 14 14:04:14 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <Gzrd2nYqczB@ATH>, Mickmane <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 14.04.25, Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:

    So, not a bad start to this new season and a definite
    improvement on last year's opener...

    What, Space Babies? I like Space Babies!

    Some peoples' tastes!

    We are all different Dave... variety is the spice of life.

    Overall I'd give "The Robot Revolution" a 6/10 rating.

    Oh, at least 8/10 from me, let's see how the rest goes
    before I make up my mind for good.

    4.2 * 5 is 21

    +8 is 29

    /6

    is 4.83333333

    4.8/10 seems fair enough... it puts the episode in the average
    category, which it probably is.

    Slight below average.
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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to solar penguin on Tue Apr 22 09:15:50 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    solar penguin wrote:

    Blueshirt brainstormed:


    Mrs Flood's brief appearance at the start and her 'fourth
    wall' breaking comment is clearly foreshadowing something
    big later on too.. as her comment was meaningless in regards
    to this episode. I'm still in the 'she is the Rani' camp.
    (Rani is an anagram of rain - too much rain and you get a
    flood... Seems simple enough, right? But as we know RTD
    likes his misdirections and double-bluffs!)


    That kind of name-based wordplay is more Moffat’s style than
    RTD’s. (e.g. Susan Triad’s name was a red herring, Harold
    Saxon wasn’t the Meddling Monk, and there wasn’t a villain
    called Will Knockfourtimes.)

    I liked the suggestion that Mrs Flood could be one of the 'Chaos
    Gods'... or the God of the 'Chaos Gods', or something...

    Besides, Mrs Flood just doesn’t seem like a single-minded,
    amoral scientist. What’s the point of bringing an
    unrecognisable Rani back in name only? RTD’s already done that
    with Sutekh!

    I am now leaning (or over-thinking) towards Rani -> Rain = flood
    being too on the nose, even for RTD... the same with Belinda ->
    Queen = Rani... we are just falling in to RTD's trap of mischief
    making by thinking along those lines. It's just as likely she
    could be Susan or a.n.other random character from the past...

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  • From Daniel70@21:1/5 to solar penguin on Tue Apr 22 20:44:40 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    On 22/04/2025 5:44 pm, solar penguin wrote:
    Blueshirt brainstormed:

    Mrs Flood's brief appearance at the start and her 'fourth wall'
    breaking comment is clearly foreshadowing something big later on
    too.. as her comment was meaningless in regards to this episode.
    I'm still in the 'she is the Rani' camp. (Rani is an anagram of
    rain - too much rain and you get a flood... Seems simple enough,
    right? But as we know RTD likes his misdirections and
    double-bluffs!)

    That kind of name-based wordplay is more Moffat’s style than RTD’s.
    (e.g. Susan Triad’s name was a red herring, Harold Saxon wasn’t the Meddling Monk, and there wasn’t a villain called Will Knockfourtimes.)

    Besides, Mrs Flood just doesn’t seem like a single-minded, amoral scientist. What’s the point of bringing an unrecognisable Rani back in
    name only? RTD’s already done that with Sutekh!

    And didn't RTD also do that .. with The Doctor, i.e. DoctorChristopher??
    --
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Apr 22 12:26:15 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <vu7hc6$4r8i$[email protected]>,
    solar penguin <[email protected]> wrote:

    Blueshirt brainstormed:


    Mrs Flood's brief appearance at the start and her 'fourth wall'
    breaking comment is clearly foreshadowing something big later on
    too.. as her comment was meaningless in regards to this episode.
    I'm still in the 'she is the Rani' camp. (Rani is an anagram of
    rain - too much rain and you get a flood... Seems simple enough,
    right? But as we know RTD likes his misdirections and
    double-bluffs!)


    That kind of name-based wordplay is more Moffat’s style than RTD’s.
    (e.g. Susan Triad’s name was a red herring, Harold Saxon wasn’t the >Meddling Monk, and there wasn’t a villain called Will Knockfourtimes.)

    Besides, Mrs Flood just doesn’t seem like a single-minded, amoral >scientist. What’s the point of bringing an unrecognisable Rani back in
    name only? RTD’s already done that with Sutekh!


    Except that you can recognise Sutekh.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Tue Apr 22 12:26:59 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    solar penguin wrote:

    Blueshirt brainstormed:


    Mrs Flood's brief appearance at the start and her 'fourth
    wall' breaking comment is clearly foreshadowing something
    big later on too.. as her comment was meaningless in regards
    to this episode. I'm still in the 'she is the Rani' camp.
    (Rani is an anagram of rain - too much rain and you get a
    flood... Seems simple enough, right? But as we know RTD
    likes his misdirections and double-bluffs!)


    That kind of name-based wordplay is more Moffat’s style than
    RTD’s. (e.g. Susan Triad’s name was a red herring, Harold
    Saxon wasn’t the Meddling Monk, and there wasn’t a villain
    called Will Knockfourtimes.)

    I liked the suggestion that Mrs Flood could be one of the 'Chaos
    Gods'... or the God of the 'Chaos Gods', or something...

    Besides, Mrs Flood just doesn’t seem like a single-minded,
    amoral scientist. What’s the point of bringing an
    unrecognisable Rani back in name only? RTD’s already done that
    with Sutekh!

    I am now leaning (or over-thinking) towards Rani -> Rain = flood
    being too on the nose, even for RTD... the same with Belinda ->
    Queen = Rani... we are just falling in to RTD's trap of mischief
    making by thinking along those lines. It's just as likely she
    could be Susan or a.n.other random character from the past...

    Chaotic Goddess.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Apr 22 12:29:00 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <vu7ruo$dq8p$[email protected]>,
    Daniel70 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 22/04/2025 5:44 pm, solar penguin wrote:
    Blueshirt brainstormed:

    Mrs Flood's brief appearance at the start and her 'fourth wall'
    breaking comment is clearly foreshadowing something big later on
    too.. as her comment was meaningless in regards to this episode.
    I'm still in the 'she is the Rani' camp. (Rani is an anagram of
    rain - too much rain and you get a flood... Seems simple enough,
    right? But as we know RTD likes his misdirections and
    double-bluffs!)

    That kind of name-based wordplay is more Moffat’s style than RTD’s.
    (e.g. Susan Triad’s name was a red herring, Harold Saxon wasn’t the
    Meddling Monk, and there wasn’t a villain called Will Knockfourtimes.)

    Besides, Mrs Flood just doesn’t seem like a single-minded, amoral
    scientist. What’s the point of bringing an unrecognisable Rani back in
    name only? RTD’s already done that with Sutekh!

    And didn't RTD also do that .. with The Doctor, i.e. DoctorChristopher??

    The Time Lord Survivor?

    --
    Daniel70


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  • From Daniel70@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Tue Apr 22 23:45:37 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    On 22/04/2025 10:29 pm, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <vu7ruo$dq8p$[email protected]>,
    Daniel70 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 22/04/2025 5:44 pm, solar penguin wrote:
    Blueshirt brainstormed:

    Mrs Flood's brief appearance at the start and her 'fourth wall'
    breaking comment is clearly foreshadowing something big later on
    too.. as her comment was meaningless in regards to this episode.
    I'm still in the 'she is the Rani' camp. (Rani is an anagram of
    rain - too much rain and you get a flood... Seems simple enough,
    right? But as we know RTD likes his misdirections and
    double-bluffs!)

    That kind of name-based wordplay is more Moffat’s style than RTD’s.
    (e.g. Susan Triad’s name was a red herring, Harold Saxon wasn’t the
    Meddling Monk, and there wasn’t a villain called Will Knockfourtimes.)

    Besides, Mrs Flood just doesn’t seem like a single-minded, amoral >>> scientist. What’s the point of bringing an unrecognisable Rani back in
    name only? RTD’s already done that with Sutekh!

    And didn't RTD also do that .. with The Doctor, i.e. DoctorChristopher??

    The Time Lord Survivor?

    THE WHAT??
    --
    Daniel70

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Apr 22 13:48:50 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <vu86i1$mj7e$[email protected]>,
    Daniel70 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 22/04/2025 10:29 pm, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <vu7ruo$dq8p$[email protected]>,
    Daniel70 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 22/04/2025 5:44 pm, solar penguin wrote:
    Blueshirt brainstormed:

    Mrs Flood's brief appearance at the start and her 'fourth wall'
    breaking comment is clearly foreshadowing something big later on
    too.. as her comment was meaningless in regards to this episode.
    I'm still in the 'she is the Rani' camp. (Rani is an anagram of
    rain - too much rain and you get a flood... Seems simple enough,
    right? But as we know RTD likes his misdirections and
    double-bluffs!)

    That kind of name-based wordplay is more Moffat’s style than >RTD’s.
    (e.g. Susan Triad’s name was a red herring, Harold Saxon >wasn’t the
    Meddling Monk, and there wasn’t a villain called Will >Knockfourtimes.)

    Besides, Mrs Flood just doesn’t seem like a single-minded, amoral >>>> scientist. What’s the point of bringing an unrecognisable
    Rani back in
    name only? RTD’s already done that with Sutekh!

    And didn't RTD also do that .. with The Doctor, i.e. DoctorChristopher??

    The Time Lord Survivor?

    THE WHAT??
    --
    Daniel70

    Yes?
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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 22 14:07:32 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 22/04/2025 10:29 pm, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <vu7ruo$dq8p$[email protected]>,
    Daniel70 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 22/04/2025 5:44 pm, solar penguin wrote:
    Blueshirt brainstormed:

    I'm still in the 'she is the Rani' camp. (Rani is an
    anagram of rain - too much rain and you get a flood...
    Seems simple enough, right? But as we know RTD likes
    his misdirections and double-bluffs!)

    That kind of name-based wordplay is more Moffat's
    style than RTD's. (e.g. Susan Triad's name was a
    red herring, Harold Saxon wasn't the Meddling Monk,
    and there wasn't a villain called Will Knockfourtimes.)

    Besides, Mrs Flood just doesn't seem like a
    single-minded, amoral scientist. What's the point of
    bringing an unrecognisable Rani back in name only?
    RTD's already done that with Sutekh!

    And didn't RTD also do that .. with The Doctor, i.e.
    DoctorChristopher??

    The Time Lord Survivor?

    THE WHAT??

    After the Time War, the Ninth Doctor is convinced that he is
    the only surviving Time Lord... so when you translate that to
    Yaddish... The Time Lord survivor!

    Simples!

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Tue Apr 22 22:48:19 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 22/04/2025 10:29 pm, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <vu7ruo$dq8p$[email protected]>,
    Daniel70 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 22/04/2025 5:44 pm, solar penguin wrote:
    Blueshirt brainstormed:

    I'm still in the 'she is the Rani' camp. (Rani is an
    anagram of rain - too much rain and you get a flood...
    Seems simple enough, right? But as we know RTD likes
    his misdirections and double-bluffs!)

    That kind of name-based wordplay is more Moffat's
    style than RTD's. (e.g. Susan Triad's name was a
    red herring, Harold Saxon wasn't the Meddling Monk,
    and there wasn't a villain called Will Knockfourtimes.)

    Besides, Mrs Flood just doesn't seem like a
    single-minded, amoral scientist. What's the point of
    bringing an unrecognisable Rani back in name only?
    RTD's already done that with Sutekh!

    And didn't RTD also do that .. with The Doctor, i.e.
    DoctorChristopher??

    The Time Lord Survivor?

    THE WHAT??

    After the Time War, the Ninth Doctor is convinced that he is
    the only surviving Time Lord... so when you translate that to
    Yaddish... The Time Lord survivor!

    Simples!

    Simples!!
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  • From Daniel70@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Wed Apr 23 20:03:05 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    On 23/04/2025 12:07 am, Blueshirt wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:
    On 22/04/2025 10:29 pm, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <vu7ruo$dq8p$[email protected]>,
    Daniel70 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 22/04/2025 5:44 pm, solar penguin wrote:
    Blueshirt brainstormed:

    I'm still in the 'she is the Rani' camp. (Rani is an
    anagram of rain - too much rain and you get a flood...
    Seems simple enough, right? But as we know RTD likes
    his misdirections and double-bluffs!)

    That kind of name-based wordplay is more Moffat's
    style than RTD's. (e.g. Susan Triad's name was a
    red herring, Harold Saxon wasn't the Meddling Monk,
    and there wasn't a villain called Will Knockfourtimes.)

    Besides, Mrs Flood just doesn't seem like a
    single-minded, amoral scientist. What's the point of
    bringing an unrecognisable Rani back in name only?
    RTD's already done that with Sutekh!

    And didn't RTD also do that .. with The Doctor, i.e.
    DoctorChristopher??

    The Time Lord Survivor?

    THE WHAT??

    After the Time War, the Ninth Doctor is convinced that he is
    the only surviving Time Lord... so when you translate that to
    Yaddish... The Time Lord survivor!

    Simples!

    AH!! Sorry! I forgot that last step .... The translation to Yaddniesse!!
    --
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Apr 23 13:02:51 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <vuadsm$2p97g$[email protected]>,
    Daniel70 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 23/04/2025 12:07 am, Blueshirt wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:
    On 22/04/2025 10:29 pm, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <vu7ruo$dq8p$[email protected]>,
    Daniel70 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 22/04/2025 5:44 pm, solar penguin wrote:
    Blueshirt brainstormed:

    I'm still in the 'she is the Rani' camp. (Rani is an
    anagram of rain - too much rain and you get a flood...
    Seems simple enough, right? But as we know RTD likes
    his misdirections and double-bluffs!)

    That kind of name-based wordplay is more Moffat's
    style than RTD's. (e.g. Susan Triad's name was a
    red herring, Harold Saxon wasn't the Meddling Monk,
    and there wasn't a villain called Will Knockfourtimes.)

    Besides, Mrs Flood just doesn't seem like a
    single-minded, amoral scientist. What's the point of
    bringing an unrecognisable Rani back in name only?
    RTD's already done that with Sutekh!

    And didn't RTD also do that .. with The Doctor, i.e.
    DoctorChristopher??

    The Time Lord Survivor?

    THE WHAT??

    After the Time War, the Ninth Doctor is convinced that he is
    the only surviving Time Lord... so when you translate that to
    Yaddish... The Time Lord survivor!

    Simples!

    AH!! Sorry! I forgot that last step .... The translation to Yaddniesse!!

    Still confused Dannyboy?!

    --
    Daniel70


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