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  • Hawk V-Lite 16 Anamorphics?

    From cinemad@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 13 21:44:31 2017
    Does anybody know about this system? Apparently it uses Super 16 with 1.33 Anamorphics to create a Scope shaped image. they were used in Theeb(2014) which is vaguely reminiscent of Lawrence of Arabia(1962)

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Sep 14 13:15:58 2017
    In article <[email protected]>,
    cinemad <[email protected]> wrote:
    Does anybody know about this system? Apparently it uses Super 16 with 1.33 Anamorphics to create a Scope shaped image. they were used in Theeb(2014) which is vaguely reminiscent of Lawrence of Arabia(1962)

    They are straight standard PL-mount anamorphics.

    You can put them on your 35mm camera, on your 16mm camera, or on a Super 16 camera, just like with the old Cooke or B&L lenses. They are prime lenses, with the anamorphic element built into the prime, so you are changing everything out when you switch lenses.

    If you were to use them on Super-16 full frame, you would get a 1:2.49 ratio without cropping, which would blow up nicely to 35mm scope.

    If you were to use them (or any other 1.5x anamorphic) on regular 16mm full frame, you'd get a 1:1.99 ratio which would blow up to 35mm scope with a little cropping on top and bottom.

    It's a reasonable approach to use 35mm-designed anamorphics on a 16mm or super-16 camera as long as you don't mind being forced to use long lenses.
    I think the widest Hawk you can buy is 28mm which is pretty wide in 35mm
    but longer than a "normal" lens in 16mm. Using anamorphic adaptors on a
    lens designed for 16mm use gives you a wider range of usable focal lengths
    and the ability to get an actual wide lens.

    It's still hard to beat the Hawks for speed, though.... most of them are T2.2. --scott
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  • From cinemad@21:1/5 to Scott Dorsey on Mon Sep 25 23:22:53 2017
    On Friday, September 15, 2017 at 3:15:59 AM UTC+10, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>,
    cinemad <[email protected]> wrote:
    Does anybody know about this system? Apparently it uses Super 16 with 1.33 Anamorphics to create a Scope shaped image. they were used in Theeb(2014) which is vaguely reminiscent of Lawrence of Arabia(1962)

    They are straight standard PL-mount anamorphics.

    You can put them on your 35mm camera, on your 16mm camera, or on a Super 16 camera, just like with the old Cooke or B&L lenses. They are prime lenses, with the anamorphic element built into the prime, so you are changing everything out when you switch lenses.

    If you were to use them on Super-16 full frame, you would get a 1:2.49 ratio without cropping, which would blow up nicely to 35mm scope.

    If you were to use them (or any other 1.5x anamorphic) on regular 16mm full frame, you'd get a 1:1.99 ratio which would blow up to 35mm scope with a little
    cropping on top and bottom.

    It's a reasonable approach to use 35mm-designed anamorphics on a 16mm or super-16 camera as long as you don't mind being forced to use long lenses.
    I think the widest Hawk you can buy is 28mm which is pretty wide in 35mm
    but longer than a "normal" lens in 16mm. Using anamorphic adaptors on a
    lens designed for 16mm use gives you a wider range of usable focal lengths and the ability to get an actual wide lens.

    It's still hard to beat the Hawks for speed, though.... most of them are T2.2.
    --scott

    I have found a brochure online that states there are also 14mm, 18mm and 24mm lenses AS WELL AS THE 28MM. All are T1.5 What is the anamorphic compression of these lenses?
    I've heard 2:1, 1.33:1 and you state 1.5:1

    Thanks,
    Peter




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