May 16, when the TV season ends normally, due to the challenging
competitive environment of late night television, and not at all, cross
our hearts, to facilitate approval of our Skydance merger, just as that
$16 million was not a bribe even if we thought the lawsuit was completely without merit...
Late Night with Stephen Colbert is coming to an end.
Maybe sooner if he needs to escape to Canada to avoid being deported to Eswatini.
John Savard
May 16, when the TV season ends normally, due to the challenging
competitive environment of late night television, and not at all, cross
our hearts, to facilitate approval of our Skydance merger, just as that
$16 million was not a bribe even if we thought the lawsuit was completely without merit...
Late Night with Stephen Colbert is coming to an end.
Maybe sooner if he needs to escape to Canada to avoid being deported to Eswatini.
John Savard
Broadcasting
Colbert has a very attentive audience and the Canadian
System will be happy to put him to work if this is not a very bad joke.
Maybe Canada can strike though the soft underbelly of the Mid-West to
take over the largest polluting government ever. Maybe they can pull the
UN in to put down a governmentt that insists on going back to the days
of coal.
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 22:16:01 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
Broadcasting
Colbert has a very attentive audience and the Canadian
System will be happy to put him to work if this is not a very bad joke.
Maybe Canada can strike though the soft underbelly of the Mid-West to
take over the largest polluting government ever. Maybe they can pull the
UN in to put down a governmentt that insists on going back to the days
of coal.
I like to point out the ambiguous symbolism of Canada moving
its American embassy to its present location at the foot of
Capitol Hill where is flanked on three sides by U.S. federal
buildings. Has Canada been enveloped by the U.S., as if to
suggest 51st state? Or has Canada infiltrated our system,
perhaps with sleeper cells in our media, universities and other
institutions?
In article<pan$cdd24$66b82393$b6500f68$[email protected]>,
Charles Packer <[email protected]> wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 22:16:01 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
Colbert has a very attentive audience and the CanadianBroadcasting
System will be happy to put him to work if this is not a very bad joke. Maybe Canada can strike though the soft underbelly of the Mid-West to take over the largest polluting government ever. Maybe they can pull the UN in to put down a governmentt that insists on going back to the days
of coal.
I like to point out the ambiguous symbolism of Canada moving
its American embassy to its present location at the foot of
Capitol Hill where is flanked on three sides by U.S. federal
buildings. Has Canada been enveloped by the U.S., as if to
suggest 51st state? Or has Canada infiltrated our system,
perhaps with sleeper cells in our media, universities and other institutions?
Like you guys will have universities in a year's time.
May 16, when the TV season ends normally, due to the challenging
competitive environment of late night television, and not at all, cross
our hearts, to facilitate approval of our Skydance merger, just as that
$16 million was not a bribe even if we thought the lawsuit was completely without merit...
Late Night with Stephen Colbert is coming to an end.
Maybe sooner if he needs to escape to Canada to avoid being deported to Eswatini.
John Savard
On Jul 19, 2025, James Nicoll wrote
(in article <105g6s7$m9c$[email protected]>):
In article<pan$cdd24$66b82393$b6500f68$[email protected]>,
Charles Packer <[email protected]> wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 22:16:01 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
Broadcasting
Colbert has a very attentive audience and the Canadian
System will be happy to put him to work if this is not a very bad joke. >> > > Maybe Canada can strike though the soft underbelly of the Mid-West to
take over the largest polluting government ever. Maybe they can pull the >> > > UN in to put down a governmentt that insists on going back to the days >> > > of coal.
I like to point out the ambiguous symbolism of Canada moving
its American embassy to its present location at the foot of
Capitol Hill where is flanked on three sides by U.S. federal
buildings. Has Canada been enveloped by the U.S., as if to
suggest 51st state? Or has Canada infiltrated our system,
perhaps with sleeper cells in our media, universities and other
institutions?
Like you guys will have universities in a year's time.
Hmmp. No universities means no college feetball. If you thought that the >Epstein screaming was loud, wait untilthe word about no college feetball >arrives in MAGALand. Especially Texas. The Orange One would be First Against >The Wall come the inevitable revolution; second would be any lawmakers who >dared to support him. Recall that feetball is a religion in SECLand, and >college feetball has more worshipers than pro. (and college feetball pays >better, too.)
Just spin college football off.
Maybe sooner if he needs to escape to Canada to avoid being deported to >Eswatini.
I like to point out the ambiguous symbolism of Canada moving
its American embassy to its present location at the foot of
Capitol Hill where is flanked on three sides by U.S. federal
buildings. Has Canada been enveloped by the U.S., as if to
suggest 51st state? Or has Canada infiltrated our system,
perhaps with sleeper cells in our media, universities and other
institutions?
Hmmp. No universities means no college feetball. If you thought that the >Epstein screaming was loud, wait untilthe word about no college feetball >arrives in MAGALand. Especially Texas. The Orange One would be First Against >The Wall come the inevitable revolution; second would be any lawmakers who >dared to support him. Recall that feetball is a religion in SECLand, and >college feetball has more worshipers than pro. (and college feetball pays >better, too.)
On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 07:47:13 -0000 (UTC), Charles Packer <[email protected]> wrote:
I like to point out the ambiguous symbolism of Canada moving its
American embassy to its present location at the foot of Capitol Hill
where is flanked on three sides by U.S. federal buildings. Has Canada
been enveloped by the U.S., as if to suggest 51st state? Or has Canada >>infiltrated our system, perhaps with sleeper cells in our media, >>universities and other institutions?
Then how would you describe the location of the Canadian High
Commission? (the states of the former British Empire have "High
Commissions" for other Commonwealth countries and Embassies for
everybody else)
I.e. on the NW corner of Trafalgar square with big signs up telling
Canadians NOT to come in except on official business. (Several of
Canada's provinces also have their own offices in London - BC's is about
a mile W of Trafalgar Square near Picadilly Circus and goes back 100+
years (judging by the date on a statue built into the side of the
building - though most of the provincial offices are about facilitating tourism and trade)
The looseness of the Canadian federation is a surprise to me. But it's
not a surprise that I didn't know about it until now.
American journalism is deficient in explicating the varieties of parliamentary democracy.
Guess I'm behind the times - I had never heard of that country till
Trump mentioned it the other day - so I Googled and found they had
changed their name some 20 years ago.
Smothering Free Speech is not beautiful in my very humble opinion.
On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 20:26:36 -0700, The Horny Goat wrote:
Guess I'm behind the times - I had never heard of that country till
Trump mentioned it the other day - so I Googled and found they had
changed their name some 20 years ago.
I'm in the same boat as you; I, too, had to Google to learn that Eswatini
was Swaziland with a new name, just like Burkina Faso is Upper Volta with
a new name.
On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 11:32:59 -0000 (UTC), John Savard ><[email protected]d> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 20:26:36 -0700, The Horny Goat wrote:Eswatini
Guess I'm behind the times - I had never heard of that country till
Trump mentioned it the other day - so I Googled and found they had
changed their name some 20 years ago.
I'm in the same boat as you; I, too, had to Google to learn that =
was Swaziland with a new name, just like Burkina Faso is Upper Volta =with
a new name.
I experienced that long ago, when I assigned a report on "Northern and >"Southern Rhodesia" and found that the names had ... changed.
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 22:16:01 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
Smothering Free Speech is not beautiful in my very humble opinion.
Nor in mine. I was merely referring to Trump's budget bill to indicate
that I felt Trump had a hand in it.
John Savard
Much of Europe has changed in the last 150 years, particularly
in east Europe. Prussia, Austria-Hungary, Sardinia, Two Sicilies, Dalmatia, >et alia only exist in memory and history books.
On 7/22/25 04:24, John Savard wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 22:16:01 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
Smothering Free Speech is not beautiful in my very humble opinion. >>Nor in mine. I was merely referring to Trump's budget bill to indicate
that I felt Trump had a hand in it.
John Savard
CBS is owned by Paramount which wants to merge with Skydance. They need the approval of a part of the Trump administration so Trump hates Colbert
who sees and reports him clearly. So the give up the best late show on TV in order to please the orange orgre and that is their financial bind.
bliss
On 7/22/25 20:16, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
That is a pretty idiotic and biased view of it.
On 7/22/25 04:24, John Savard wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 22:16:01 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
Smothering Free Speech is not beautiful in my very humble opinion. >>>Nor in mine. I was merely referring to Trump's budget bill to indicate
that I felt Trump had a hand in it.
John Savard
CBS is owned by Paramount which wants to merge with Skydance. They >> need the approval of a part of the Trump administration so Trump hates
Colbert
who sees and reports him clearly. So the give up the best late show
on TV
in order to please the orange orgre and that is their financial bind.
bliss
How about
Don’t Publicly Rip the Boss When You’re Losing the Company Money
23 hours ago
By Dan Mclaughlin
The Gutfeld show is much more watched and less expensive to produce.
The Gutfeld show is much more watched and less expensive to produce.
I really don't give a damn about your favorite show. I doubt that
person has
a West Coast outlet.
Colbert is in his last year and took the May ending to heart and is
letting loose
on the Network, the owning company and other involved parties.
On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 09:36:42 -0700, Bobbie Sellers <[email protected]> wrote:
Contracts start and contracts end. Except for the ones that end withThe Gutfeld show is much more watched and less expensive to produce.
I really don't give a damn about your favorite show. I doubt that
person has
a West Coast outlet.
Colbert is in his last year and took the May ending to heart and is
letting loose
on the Network, the owning company and other involved parties.
the host's death (few - mercifully) they ALL end eventually.
\Why is this news?
On 7/25/25 16:56, The Horny Goat wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 09:36:42 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
<[email protected]> wrote:
Contracts start and contracts end. Except for the ones that end withThe Gutfeld show is much more watched and less expensive to produce.
I really don't give a damn about your favorite show. I doubt that
person has
a West Coast outlet.
Colbert is in his last year and took the May ending to heart and is
letting loose
on the Network, the owning company and other involved parties.
the host's death (few - mercifully) they ALL end eventually.
\Why is this news?
Because CBS is ownned by Paramount which wants to be bought
by a company called Skydance and needs the Trump's mal-administration
to approve of the sale so the thought is that getting rid of Colbert, a >severe critic of the Trump, was thought to help with that approval.
However Colbert leaving is 10 months away during which time he will
be free to express his opinion freely as he did last night featureing the >South Park episode which depicts puny Trump trying to get Satan to
give him sex. Satan of course is not in the mood.
Paul S Person wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 18:56:24 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/25/25 16:56, The Horny Goat wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 09:36:42 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
<[email protected]> wrote:
Contracts start and contracts end. Except for the ones that end withThe Gutfeld show is much more watched and less expensive to produce. >>>>>I really don't give a damn about your favorite show. I doubt that >>>>> person has
a West Coast outlet.
Colbert is in his last year and took the May ending to heart and is >>>>> letting loose
on the Network, the owning company and other involved parties.
the host's death (few - mercifully) they ALL end eventually.
\Why is this news?
Because CBS is ownned by Paramount which wants to be bought
by a company called Skydance and needs the Trump's mal-administration
to approve of the sale so the thought is that getting rid of Colbert, a
severe critic of the Trump, was thought to help with that approval.
However Colbert leaving is 10 months away during which time he will
be free to express his opinion freely as he did last night featureing the >>> South Park episode which depicts puny Trump trying to get Satan to
give him sex. Satan of course is not in the mood.
You do realize that letting the contract run to conclusion contradicts
the idea that they are "bribing" the Orange Taco.
It does not.
If they were actually doing this to please The Donald, they would have
cancelled the show -- immediately.
If the aim was to please him, it seems to have been done. He says he is >very pleased.
Kind of like a certain TV show in the late 60s ... which was cancelled
in the middle of the show (the broadcast was cut off) for adapting
_Marat/Sade_ (or at least the title) and applied it to Tricky Dicky,
at that time President of the USA.
Colbert has a better contract. If they cut the show at the cost of
paying him millions, the bribe would be too obvious.
On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 15:02:02 -0400, William Hyde
<[email protected]> wrote:
Paul S Person wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 18:56:24 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/25/25 16:56, The Horny Goat wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 09:36:42 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
<[email protected]> wrote:
Contracts start and contracts end. Except for the ones that end with >>>>> the host's death (few - mercifully) they ALL end eventually.The Gutfeld show is much more watched and less expensive to produce. >>>>>>I really don't give a damn about your favorite show. I doubt that >>>>>> person has
a West Coast outlet.
Colbert is in his last year and took the May ending to heart and is >>>>>> letting loose
on the Network, the owning company and other involved parties.
\Why is this news?
Because CBS is ownned by Paramount which wants to be bought
by a company called Skydance and needs the Trump's mal-administration
to approve of the sale so the thought is that getting rid of Colbert, a >>>> severe critic of the Trump, was thought to help with that approval.
However Colbert leaving is 10 months away during which time he will >>>> be free to express his opinion freely as he did last night featureing the >>>> South Park episode which depicts puny Trump trying to get Satan to
give him sex. Satan of course is not in the mood.
You do realize that letting the contract run to conclusion contradicts
the idea that they are "bribing" the Orange Taco.
It does not.
If they were actually doing this to please The Donald, they would have
cancelled the show -- immediately.
If the aim was to please him, it seems to have been done. He says he is
very pleased.
Kind of like a certain TV show in the late 60s ... which was cancelled
in the middle of the show (the broadcast was cut off) for adapting
_Marat/Sade_ (or at least the title) and applied it to Tricky Dicky,
at that time President of the USA.
Colbert has a better contract. If they cut the show at the cost of
paying him millions, the bribe would be too obvious.
You are not considering an alternative scenario:
1. They cancel Colbert (eventually).
2. The merger goes through, irrevocably.
3. They de-cancel Colbert.
And that is what makes it not a bribe: it can be reversed.
Thiis "bribe" meme is a product of left wing-nuttery. Or lefty
hysteria, take your pick.
You are not considering an alternative scenario:
1. They cancel Colbert (eventually).
2. The merger goes through, irrevocably.
3. They de-cancel Colbert.
And that is what makes it not a bribe: it can be reversed.
Paul S Person wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 15:02:02 -0400, William Hyde
<[email protected]> wrote:
Paul S Person wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 18:56:24 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/25/25 16:56, The Horny Goat wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 09:36:42 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
<[email protected]> wrote:
Contracts start and contracts end. Except for the ones that end with >>>>>> the host's death (few - mercifully) they ALL end eventually.The Gutfeld show is much more watched and less expensive to produce. >>>>>>>I really don't give a damn about your favorite show. I doubt that
person has
a West Coast outlet.
Colbert is in his last year and took the May ending to heart and is
letting loose
on the Network, the owning company and other involved parties.
\Why is this news?
Because CBS is ownned by Paramount which wants to be bought
by a company called Skydance and needs the Trump's mal-administration >>>>> to approve of the sale so the thought is that getting rid of Colbert, a >>>>> severe critic of the Trump, was thought to help with that approval.
However Colbert leaving is 10 months away during which time he will >>>>> be free to express his opinion freely as he did last night featureing the
South Park episode which depicts puny Trump trying to get Satan to
give him sex. Satan of course is not in the mood.
You do realize that letting the contract run to conclusion contradicts >>>> the idea that they are "bribing" the Orange Taco.
It does not.
If they were actually doing this to please The Donald, they would have >>>> cancelled the show -- immediately.
If the aim was to please him, it seems to have been done. He says he is >>> very pleased.
Kind of like a certain TV show in the late 60s ... which was cancelled >>>> in the middle of the show (the broadcast was cut off) for adapting
_Marat/Sade_ (or at least the title) and applied it to Tricky Dicky,
at that time President of the USA.
Colbert has a better contract. If they cut the show at the cost of
paying him millions, the bribe would be too obvious.
You are not considering an alternative scenario:
1. They cancel Colbert (eventually).
2. The merger goes through, irrevocably.
3. They de-cancel Colbert.
And that is what makes it not a bribe: it can be reversed.
Bribes are, in fact, sometimes reversed or simply not paid. Depends if
the briber has the power to avoid blowback.
William Hyde
"The Supreme Court case Snyder v. United States did not legalize
bribery, but it did narrow the scope of a federal anti-bribery
statute. The 6-3 decision held that 18 U.S.C. � 666, which prohibits
bribery of state and local officials involving federal funds, does
not apply to "gratuities" (payments made after an official act). The
Court determined that the statute only covers bribes made in exchange
for official acts, not gifts or rewards given afterward"
On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 13:59:20 GMT, [email protected] (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:
<snippo, are reversed bribes still bribes?>
"The Supreme Court case Snyder v. United States did not legalize
bribery, but it did narrow the scope of a federal anti-bribery
statute. The 6-3 decision held that 18 U.S.C. � 666, which prohibits
bribery of state and local officials involving federal funds, does
not apply to "gratuities" (payments made after an official act). The
Court determined that the statute only covers bribes made in exchange
for official acts, not gifts or rewards given afterward"
This is not surprising.
At some point, the IRS presented its employees with an Ethics
statement. This was printed on light brown (OK, the color is IIRC)
paper in slightly-less-light brown type. This made it hard to read.
And I found out /why/ when I read it.
Suppose you are, in addition to and separate from, your official
position, an expert in philately (stamp collecting). You give a speech
to a group of philatelists, for which you are paid $100. Can you
accept the money?
The answer depends on what position you hold:
-- if you are a normal worker bee, say GS 9 or less, you can not: it
is an illegal bribe
-- if you are a high-ranking individual (ES [Executive Schedule], not
GS [General Schedule]) you may accept it: it is a gratuity.
On 7/17/25 18:02, John Savard wrote:
Late Night with Stephen Colbert is coming to an end.
Smothering Free Speech is not beautiful in my very humble opinion.
In article <105clah$1lcpm$[email protected]>,
Bobbie Sellers <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/17/25 18:02, John Savard wrote:
Late Night with Stephen Colbert is coming to an end.
Smothering Free Speech is not beautiful in my very humble opinion.
Is it a fact, as has been reported multiple places, that The Late Show
is losing CBS twenty million dollars a year?
If so, why is it surprising that they would decide to cut their losses?
How long must they be required to eat this yearly loss?
Does "free speech" somehow require CBS to make a twenty million dollar
a year contribution in kind to the Democratic Party? I don't see it.
In article <[email protected]>,
Paul S Person <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 13:59:20 GMT, [email protected] (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:
<snippo, are reversed bribes still bribes?>
"The Supreme Court case Snyder v. United States did not legalize
bribery, but it did narrow the scope of a federal anti-bribery
statute. The 6-3 decision held that 18 U.S.C. � 666, which prohibits
bribery of state and local officials involving federal funds, does
not apply to "gratuities" (payments made after an official act). The
Court determined that the statute only covers bribes made in exchange
for official acts, not gifts or rewards given afterward"
This is not surprising.
At some point, the IRS presented its employees with an Ethics
statement. This was printed on light brown (OK, the color is IIRC)
paper in slightly-less-light brown type. This made it hard to read.
And I found out /why/ when I read it.
Suppose you are, in addition to and separate from, your official
position, an expert in philately (stamp collecting). You give a speech
to a group of philatelists, for which you are paid $100. Can you
accept the money?
The answer depends on what position you hold:
-- if you are a normal worker bee, say GS 9 or less, you can not: it
is an illegal bribe
-- if you are a high-ranking individual (ES [Executive Schedule], not
GS [General Schedule]) you may accept it: it is a gratuity.
I wonder what the ruling would be for an IRS employee on the General >Schedule who wrote a short story (or even a novel). Could it be
submitted for publication? Could a novel be self-published?
In article<105clah$1lcpm$[email protected]>,
Bobbie Sellers <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/17/25 18:02, John Savard wrote:
Late Night with Stephen Colbert is coming to an end.
Smothering Free Speech is not beautiful in my very humble opinion.
Is it a fact, as has been reported multiple places, that The Late Show
is losing CBS twenty million dollars a year?
If so, why is it surprising that they would decide to cut their losses?
How long must they be required to eat this yearly loss?
Does "free speech" somehow require CBS to make a twenty million dollar
a year contribution in kind to the Democratic Party? I don't see it.
However Colbert leaving is 10 months away during which time he will
be free to express his opinion freely as he did last night featureing the South Park episode which depicts puny Trump trying to get Satan to
give him sex. Satan of course is not in the mood.
On Jul 25, 2025, Bobbie Sellers wrote
(in article <1061ck8$250ff$[email protected]>):
However Colbert leaving is 10 months away during which time he will
be free to express his opinion freely as he did last night featureing the
South Park episode which depicts puny Trump trying to get Satan to
give him sex. Satan of course is not in the mood.
Would you be? I mean, first you gotta peel away the diapers, unplug the catheter, pull Mike Johnson’s head out of the way... Talk about a buzzkill.
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