• (ReacTor) Five Books About Aliens Who Are Fed Up With Humans

    From James Nicoll@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 9 14:05:14 2025
    Five Books About Aliens Who Are Fed Up With Humans

    Yelling "Get off my lawn!" on an interplanetary scale...

    https://reactormag.com/five-books-about-aliens-who-are-fed-up-with-humans/
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  • From Christian Weisgerber@21:1/5 to James Nicoll on Thu Jul 10 11:56:31 2025
    On 2025-07-09, James Nicoll <[email protected]> wrote:

    Five Books About Aliens Who Are Fed Up With Humans

    Yelling "Get off my lawn!" on an interplanetary scale... https://reactormag.com/five-books-about-aliens-who-are-fed-up-with-humans/

    In Greg Egan's _Quarantine_, the aliens have wrapped the solar
    system in an artificial event horizon, cutting it off from the rest
    of the universe. Overhead, without any fuss, the stars were going
    out.

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    Christian "naddy" Weisgerber [email protected]

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  • From Scott Lurndal@21:1/5 to Christian Weisgerber on Thu Jul 10 13:33:57 2025
    Christian Weisgerber <[email protected]> writes:
    On 2025-07-09, James Nicoll <[email protected]> wrote:

    Five Books About Aliens Who Are Fed Up With Humans

    Yelling "Get off my lawn!" on an interplanetary scale...
    https://reactormag.com/five-books-about-aliens-who-are-fed-up-with-humans/

    In Greg Egan's _Quarantine_, the aliens have wrapped the solar
    system in an artificial event horizon, cutting it off from the rest
    of the universe. Overhead, without any fuss, the stars were going
    out.

    Wasn't that the final line in Clark's story "The nine billion
    names of god"? (why nine? would have made more sense as
    the four billion names, with a unsigned 32-bit overflow :-)

    Foster's _With Friends Like These_ also had a story where aliens had quarantined the solar system...

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to Scott Lurndal on Thu Jul 10 10:47:25 2025
    Scott Lurndal <[email protected]> wrote:
    Christian Weisgerber <[email protected]> writes:
    On 2025-07-09, James Nicoll <[email protected]> wrote:

    Five Books About Aliens Who Are Fed Up With Humans

    Yelling "Get off my lawn!" on an interplanetary scale...
    https://reactormag.com/five-books-about-aliens-who-are-fed-up-with-humans/ >>
    In Greg Egan's _Quarantine_, the aliens have wrapped the solar
    system in an artificial event horizon, cutting it off from the rest
    of the universe. Overhead, without any fuss, the stars were going
    out.

    Wasn't that the final line in Clark's story "The nine billion
    names of god"? (why nine? would have made more sense as
    the four billion names, with a unsigned 32-bit overflow :-)

    It is, and it is explained in the story. The monks are using a character
    set with an unstated number of symbols, no more than three consecutive identical symbols, and from one to nine characters. I think with some combinatorics you could work out the number of symbols used (which
    required custom printer modifications).

    Devanagari has 48 characters, both vowels and consonants, and whatever set
    the monks are using it has a whole lot fewer than that.
    --scott

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    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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  • From John Savard@21:1/5 to James Nicoll on Tue Jul 15 04:41:46 2025
    On Wed, 09 Jul 2025 14:05:14 +0000, James Nicoll wrote:

    Five Books About Aliens Who Are Fed Up With Humans

    Yelling "Get off my lawn!" on an interplanetary scale...

    Yes, your reaction to "The Turning Place" is wrong. Humans matter
    in a way that other forms of life on Earth do not.

    The final two novels, in which it's humanity that is at fault,
    particularly the second-last one, do not sound interesting to
    me because of their distressingly un-Campbellian nature.

    Not that I approve of John W. Campbell's straitjacket for science
    fiction, but stories can go too far in the opposite direction.

    John Savard

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