• RIP: Barry N. Malzberg

    From Christian Weisgerber@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 21 14:30:30 2024
    Wikipedia:
    Barry Nathaniel Malzberg (July 24, 1939 – December 19, 2024) was
    an American writer and editor, most often of science fiction and
    fantasy.

    I recognize the name, but I don't recall ever reading anything by
    him.

    --
    Christian "naddy" Weisgerber [email protected]

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  • From Ted Nolan @21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Dec 21 19:00:55 2024
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Christian Weisgerber <[email protected]> wrote:
    Wikipedia:
    Barry Nathaniel Malzberg (July 24, 1939 – December 19, 2024) was
    an American writer and editor, most often of science fiction and
    fantasy.

    I recognize the name, but I don't recall ever reading anything by
    him.


    Very New Wave. What I read of his I really did not like. In
    particular his "novel" _Galaxies_ was packaged (perhaps not by him)
    as a space adventure when in fact it was a meta-novel set of notes
    about writing a space adventure. 14 year old me was very non-plussed.

    None of which is a personal criticism. I'm sure he was a nice guy,
    and I enjoyed his defense of A. E. Van Vogt.

    RIP
    --
    columbiaclosings.com
    What's not in Columbia anymore..

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 21 16:35:18 2024
    On 12/21/24 11:00, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Christian Weisgerber <[email protected]> wrote:
    Wikipedia:
    Barry Nathaniel Malzberg (July 24, 1939 – December 19, 2024) was
    an American writer and editor, most often of science fiction and
    fantasy.

    I recognize the name, but I don't recall ever reading anything by
    him.


    Very New Wave. What I read of his I really did not like. In
    particular his "novel" _Galaxies_ was packaged (perhaps not by him)
    as a space adventure when in fact it was a meta-novel set of notes
    about writing a space adventure. 14 year old me was very non-plussed.

    None of which is a personal criticism. I'm sure he was a nice guy,
    and I enjoyed his defense of A. E. Van Vogt.

    RIP

    I remember reading stories under his byline years ago when i was
    much younger. I recognised the name from those readings quite a while
    back.
    bliss

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  • From Ahasuerus@21:1/5 to To quote what I on Wed Jan 8 11:17:27 2025
    On 12/21/2024 2:00 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Christian Weisgerber <[email protected]> wrote:
    Wikipedia:
    Barry Nathaniel Malzberg (July 24, 1939 – December 19, 2024) was
    an American writer and editor, most often of science fiction and
    fantasy.

    I recognize the name, but I don't recall ever reading anything by
    him.


    Very New Wave. What I read of his I really did not like. In
    particular his "novel" _Galaxies_ was packaged (perhaps not by him)
    as a space adventure when in fact it was a meta-novel set of notes
    about writing a space adventure. 14 year old me was very non-plussed.
    [snip]

    To quote what I wrote on Reddit the other day:

    Malzberg's serious fiction (unlike the fiction that he produced to
    pay the bills) mostly explored the notion that "the literature of
    technology and its effects upon man must at the heart be pessimistic",
    as he wrote in his May 1976 article "Down Here in the Dream Quarter".

    I also quoted his essay "Rage, Pain, Alienation and Other Aspects of the Writing of Science Fiction" (written in December 1975, first published
    in The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction, April 1976) which
    provides more context:

    I realized by June of 1965 that it would be impossible for me to make
    a career in what was my field of choice: as a literary writer. The
    quarterlies were impenetrable, the coteries omnipresent, the competition murderous, the stultifying control of the publishing houses' literary
    editors absolute. If I was ever going to achieve outlet as a writer of
    fiction, I saw I would have to go to the commercial markets [snip]

    Science fiction was what I chose because from the outset science
    fiction seemed to be that field in which one could sell stories of
    modest literary intention with the least amount of slanting: one could,
    if one touched the base of stricture, be paid a living wage for somewhat ambitious work [snip]

    In less than seven years I sold the aforementioned number of works,
    about two million words in all, I won a major award, I even, for a brief
    period in 1973/4 had the exhilarating experience of almost making a
    living from the writing of s-f alone. [snip]

    But if you win, you lose; my ambition had turned upon itself. I had
    beaten the system by getting out of the system, but the system wouldn't
    be beaten after all because it would not acknowledge that I existed and
    that made my work meaningless. Also I was getting knifed up pretty good
    inside s-f. Ambitious writers always do; historically the field has
    silenced or reduced to ineffectiveness its best writers. There is not a
    single American s-f writer over the age of forty-five, whose work is the
    equal of what it was a decade ago, if it even exists.

    So there I was: devil and the deep blue sea.

    Denied as a literary writer, loathed and largely isolated within s-f.
    [snip]

    But I also decided to get out. Where yet I am not sure; perhaps to
    the field of the commercial novel, perhaps into something else, perhaps
    into light manufacturing or the processing of ceramic mix. [snip]

    I want to make it clear on December 6, 1975: I love this field. My
    debt to it is incalculable. What has happened to writers like myself, Silverberg, Ballard, Disch, is not the fault of the category itself
    (which allowed us to go as far as we wanted artistically for a while) or necessarily even the audience. The fault, as in most other aspects of
    America, is in what has happened to squeeze diversity from our culture
    in the last five years. [snip]

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