• Nebula finalists 2011

    From James Nicoll@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 25 14:52:36 2024
    2011! Revolutions across the Middle signal the inevitable rise of democracy, the American space shuttle makes its final landing, and some really quite fuck-awful SF won awards in this, the annus horriblis of speculative
    fiction.

    Which 2011 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?

    Blackout / All Clear by Connie Willis
    Echo by Jack McDevitt
    Shades of Milk and Honey by Mary Robinette Kowal
    The Hundred Thousand Kingdoms by N. K. Jemisin
    The Native Star by M. K. Hobson
    Who Fears Death by Nnedi Okorafor

    I have read all of them. The Willis would be the worst piece on this
    list if not for another work.

    Which 2011 Nebula Finalist Novellas Have You Read?

    The Lady Who Plucked Red Flowers Beneath the Queen's Window by Rachel Swirsky Ghosts Doing the Orange Dance by Paul Park
    Iron Shoes by J. Kathleen Cheney
    The Alchemist by Paolo Bacigalupi
    The Lifecycle of Software Objects by Ted Chiang
    The Sultan of the Clouds by Geoffrey A. Landis

    Only the Swirsky, the Park, and the Chiang.


    Which 2011 Nebula Finalist Novelettes Have You Read?

    That Leviathan, Whom Thou Hast Made by Eric James Stone
    Map of Seventeen by Christopher Barzak
    Pishaach by Shweta Narayan
    Plus or Minus by James Patrick Kelly
    Stone Wall Truth by Caroline M. Yoachim
    The Fortuitous Meeting of Gerard Van Oost and Oludara by Christopher Kastensmidt
    The Jaguar House, in Shadow by Aliette de Bodard

    Only the Stone and the de Bodard. The Stone is the space whale rape
    story and I am inclined to name it the worst on this list... except Blackout/All Clear is so very long...


    Which 2011 Nebula Finalist Short Stories Have You Read?
    How Interesting: A Tiny Man by Harlan Ellison
    Ponies by Kij Johnson
    Arvies by Adam-Troy Castro
    Conditional Love by Felicity Shoulders
    Ghosts of New York by Jennifer Pelland
    I'm Alive, I Love You, I'll See You in Reno by Vylar Kaftan
    The Green Book by Amal El-Mohtar

    I have read only the Johnson and the El-Mohtar.
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  • From Robert Woodward@21:1/5 to James Nicoll on Mon Nov 25 10:13:38 2024
    In article <vi22vk$oac$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] (James Nicoll) wrote:

    2011! Revolutions across the Middle signal the inevitable rise of democracy, the American space shuttle makes its final landing, and some really quite fuck-awful SF won awards in this, the annus horriblis of speculative
    fiction.

    Which 2011 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?

    Blackout / All Clear by Connie Willis
    Echo by Jack McDevitt
    Shades of Milk and Honey by Mary Robinette Kowal
    The Hundred Thousand Kingdoms by N. K. Jemisin
    The Native Star by M. K. Hobson
    Who Fears Death by Nnedi Okorafor

    I have read all of them. The Willis would be the worst piece on this
    list if not for another work.


    None. BTW, what is your opinion of the other 5?

    Which 2011 Nebula Finalist Novellas Have You Read?

    The Lady Who Plucked Red Flowers Beneath the Queen's Window by Rachel Swirsky Ghosts Doing the Orange Dance by Paul Park
    Iron Shoes by J. Kathleen Cheney
    The Alchemist by Paolo Bacigalupi
    The Lifecycle of Software Objects by Ted Chiang
    The Sultan of the Clouds by Geoffrey A. Landis

    Only the Swirsky, the Park, and the Chiang.


    Only the Landis


    Which 2011 Nebula Finalist Novelettes Have You Read?

    That Leviathan, Whom Thou Hast Made by Eric James Stone
    Map of Seventeen by Christopher Barzak
    Pishaach by Shweta Narayan
    Plus or Minus by James Patrick Kelly
    Stone Wall Truth by Caroline M. Yoachim
    The Fortuitous Meeting of Gerard Van Oost and Oludara by Christopher Kastensmidt
    The Jaguar House, in Shadow by Aliette de Bodard

    Only the Stone and the de Bodard. The Stone is the space whale rape
    story and I am inclined to name it the worst on this list... except Blackout/All Clear is so very long...


    I must have read the Stone (because it was in Analog), but I don't
    remember anything about it.


    Which 2011 Nebula Finalist Short Stories Have You Read?
    How Interesting: A Tiny Man by Harlan Ellison
    Ponies by Kij Johnson
    Arvies by Adam-Troy Castro
    Conditional Love by Felicity Shoulders
    Ghosts of New York by Jennifer Pelland
    I'm Alive, I Love You, I'll See You in Reno by Vylar Kaftan
    The Green Book by Amal El-Mohtar

    I have read only the Johnson and the El-Mohtar.

    None.

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  • From James Nicoll@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Nov 25 20:19:21 2024
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Robert Woodward <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <vi22vk$oac$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] (James Nicoll) wrote:

    2011! Revolutions across the Middle signal the inevitable rise of democracy, >> the American space shuttle makes its final landing, and some really quite
    fuck-awful SF won awards in this, the annus horriblis of speculative
    fiction.

    Which 2011 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?

    Blackout / All Clear by Connie Willis
    Echo by Jack McDevitt
    Shades of Milk and Honey by Mary Robinette Kowal
    The Hundred Thousand Kingdoms by N. K. Jemisin
    The Native Star by M. K. Hobson
    Who Fears Death by Nnedi Okorafor

    I have read all of them. The Willis would be the worst piece on this
    list if not for another work.

    None. BTW, what is your opinion of the other 5?

    McDevitt is basically mac and cheese. Nothing revelatory but you
    know what you are getting. Like the Kowal but I was surprised magic
    didn't have a larger effect on the setting. Like the Jemisin so much
    I nominated it for a Hugo, forgetting that because I read an arc, it
    would not be eligible for another year. Don't remember much about
    the Hobson or for that matter the Okorafor.
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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to Lynn McGuire on Mon Nov 25 14:51:51 2024
    On 11/25/24 14:35, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 11/25/2024 8:52 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
    2011! Revolutions across the Middle signal the inevitable rise of
    democracy,
    the American space shuttle makes its final landing, and some really quite
    fuck-awful SF won awards in this, the annus horriblis of speculative
    fiction.

    Which 2011 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?

    Blackout / All Clear by Connie Willis
    Echo by Jack McDevitt
    Shades of Milk and Honey by Mary Robinette Kowal
    The Hundred Thousand Kingdoms by N. K. Jemisin
    The Native Star by M. K. Hobson
    Who Fears Death by Nnedi Okorafor

    I have read all of them. The Willis would be the worst piece on this
    list if not for another work
    ...

    I have read "Blackout" and "Echo".

    Lynn

    And your opinion of those works?


    bliss

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to Lynn McGuire on Mon Nov 25 17:04:30 2024
    On 11/25/24 16:44, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 11/25/2024 4:35 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 11/25/2024 8:52 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
    2011! Revolutions across the Middle signal the inevitable rise of
    democracy,
    the American space shuttle makes its final landing, and some really
    quite
    fuck-awful SF won awards in this, the annus horriblis of speculative
    fiction.

    Which 2011 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?

    Blackout / All Clear by Connie Willis
    Echo by Jack McDevitt
    Shades of Milk and Honey by Mary Robinette Kowal
    The Hundred Thousand Kingdoms by N. K. Jemisin
    The Native Star by M. K. Hobson
    Who Fears Death by Nnedi Okorafor

    I have read all of them. The Willis would be the worst piece on this
    list if not for another work
    ...

    I have read "Blackout" and "Echo".

    Lynn

    Both quite good.  "Blackout" is about people traveling back in time to
    WWII and the risks thereof.  "Echo" is another chapter in the Alex
    Benedict story of looking for alien artifacts in a post diaspora time
    where space travel via high FTL space ships is quite common.

    Lynn

    I am quite sure that I too have read the "Blackout" story
    and yes I too found it interesting.

    bliss

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