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    From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to Lynn McGuire on Tue Oct 8 13:56:48 2024
    On 10/8/24 11:51, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    “Did Hurricane Milton Have Help in Suddenly Becoming One of the Most Powerful Storms in History?”

    https://thelibertydaily.com/did-hurricane-milton-have-help-suddenly- becoming-one/

    OK, I have heard it all now.  Apparently the USA government has a storm enhancer machine using lasers and has used it to accelerate hurricanes
    Helene and Milton from a Cat 1 to a Cat 5 and targeted red areas to
    suppress the votes in the upcoming presidential election.

    Lynn

    /snark on
    Well it is those Jewish space lasers that are heating up the
    Gulf of Mexico when they are not setting the unraked forests around
    the USA on fire ...
    /snark off.

    They credit the government with all the evil in our lives
    but none of the good as Trump and QAnon have given them the word
    and who could ever doubt, Don Old Fart.

    Besides Thou, i and those invidious Democrats...

    bliss

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  • From Jay E. Morris@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 9 17:41:25 2024
    On 10/9/2024 2:55 PM, D wrote:


    On Wed, 9 Oct 2024, William Hyde wrote:

    D wrote:


    On Tue, 8 Oct 2024, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    “Did Hurricane Milton Have Help in Suddenly Becoming One of the Most >>>> Powerful Storms in History?”
    https://thelibertydaily.com/did-hurricane-milton-have-help-suddenly-
    becoming-one/
    OK, I have heard it all now.  Apparently the USA government has a
    storm enhancer machine using lasers and has used it to accelerate
    hurricanes Helene and Milton from a Cat 1 to a Cat 5 and targeted
    red areas to suppress the votes in the upcoming presidential election. >>>>
    Lynn


    Yep... just wait until Friedman arrives! You've seen nothing yet!

    Friedman's already been here. Used to advertise his fantasy novel,
    which I have not read.

    William Hyde


    Really? The son of Milton?

    Yes, David. Sometimes calling out his name three times causes him to
    appear.

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to Paul S Person on Wed Oct 9 22:50:23 2024
    On 10/9/24 08:54, Paul S Person wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Oct 2024 13:51:19 -0500, Lynn McGuire
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    “Did Hurricane Milton Have Help in Suddenly Becoming One of the Most
    Powerful Storms in History?”

    https://thelibertydaily.com/did-hurricane-milton-have-help-suddenly-becoming-one/

    OK, I have heard it all now. Apparently the USA government has a storm
    enhancer machine using lasers and has used it to accelerate hurricanes
    Helene and Milton from a Cat 1 to a Cat 5 and targeted red areas to
    suppress the votes in the upcoming presidential election.

    Republicans know they are going to lose, and are now in "make excuses beforehand" mode.

    Note that /I/ do not know they will lose. I only hope they will. Big
    time.

    Then maybe they can grow some cajones and dump Trump, MAGA, Tea Party,
    and Reagan. And the Representatives from QAnon.

    I also wish the Dems would dump Hillary and Bernie and all of Bernie's friends, particularly the Representatives from Hamas.

    No represenative from HAMAS but some of the Representatives are Americans of Palestinian and Lebanese Heritage and they elected by
    Americans of similar backgrounds and people who sympathize with those
    of such backgrounds. They are outraged at the mass slaugth of innocents
    as the IDF thrashes about to keep the criminal Netanyahu in power by
    trying to kill all the members of the Terrorist outfits they are
    engaged with Mr.Netanyahu who was facing criminal prosecution before
    he and his right wing government flubbed the intellligence from the
    border watchers.

    Not HAMAS at all just people concerned about their relatives
    in the old countries.

    Of course that is just my own opinion of what is going on and
    it may be true that #45 Liar-In-Chief was chosen by the God of Israel
    to bring the USA back from Jesus worship to JVH worship during which
    owning to his Ineptitude he will bring on the Final War and everyone
    of good faith will be taken away by the Christ in the rapture.
    Either could be true but I prefer my opinion.

    bliss - reads a lot, maybe too much.

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to Scott Dorsey on Wed Oct 9 22:56:21 2024
    On 10/9/24 18:30, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    Lynn McGuire <[email protected]> wrote:
    “Did Hurricane Milton Have Help in Suddenly Becoming One of the Most
    Powerful Storms in History?”

    https://thelibertydaily.com/did-hurricane-milton-have-help-suddenly-becoming-one/

    OK, I have heard it all now. Apparently the USA government has a storm
    enhancer machine using lasers and has used it to accelerate hurricanes
    Helene and Milton from a Cat 1 to a Cat 5 and targeted red areas to
    suppress the votes in the upcoming presidential election.

    It's not the USA government, it's Sony Pictures, and it's not red areas,
    it's the Vatican.
    --scott

    When I was much younger the Hearst Newspapers frequently published claims that the Russians or the Communist Chinese had
    learned to control the weather. They also worried about an impending
    ice age or any other matter than might rouse the sleeping
    mass man into buying more newspapers, "lest doom creep upon them
    unknowing".
    Hearst also though made public the results of scientific
    investigation which foretold long droughts in California's past
    and in our future.

    bliss

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to Cryptoengineer on Thu Oct 10 14:50:41 2024
    On 10/10/24 11:27, Cryptoengineer wrote:
    On 10/10/2024 12:05 PM, James Nicoll wrote:
    In article <ve8ims$35ihc$[email protected]>,
    Cryptoengineer  <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 10/10/2024 1:56 AM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
    On 10/9/24 18:30, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    Lynn McGuire  <[email protected]> wrote:
    “Did Hurricane Milton Have Help in Suddenly Becoming One of the Most >>>>>> Powerful Storms in History?”
    https://thelibertydaily.com/did-hurricane-milton-have-help-suddenly- >>>>>> becoming-one/

    OK, I have heard it all now.  Apparently the USA government has a >>>>>> storm
    enhancer machine using lasers and has used it to accelerate
    hurricanes
    Helene and Milton from a Cat 1 to a Cat 5 and targeted red areas to >>>>>> suppress the votes in the upcoming presidential election.

    It's not the USA government, it's Sony Pictures, and it's not red
    areas,
    it's the Vatican.
    --scott

          When I was much younger the Hearst Newspapers frequently
    published
    claims that the Russians or the Communist Chinese had
    learned to control the weather. They also worried about an impending
    ice age or any other matter than might rouse the sleeping
    mass man into buying more newspapers, "lest doom creep upon them
    unknowing".
          Hearst also though made public the results of scientific
    investigation which foretold long droughts in California's past
    and in our future.

    If "the Joos" could control the weather, Israel would be a much
    greener place.

    If a nation secretly gained the ability to control the weather,
    then we might notice that nation NOT having droughts, hurricanes,
    and blizzards.

    The absence of such good weather leads me to believe no one does.

    Interesting trivia: Santa Catarina Island (also known as the Magic
    Island) has only ever been hit with one hurricane in all of recorded
    history. Just as well, as I sat out a tropical storm there and that
    was pretty terrifying.

    That is Santa Catalina Island commemorated in song and story
    "Just 26 miles across the sea' but the Western Pacific sees few
    hurricanes because we do not really have the Gulf of Mexico at
    hand. We do have tropical storms and monsoons down Mexico way
    but we also have atmospheric rivers to dump on all of Califonia.
    Catalina is a capitalist vacation paradise. Poor folks should
    stay away. It is a very controlled community on the island.


    (Ontario is almost as lucky but sometimes hurricanes don't quite get used
    up on Americans)

    I wonder how long it would take to discover steering bad weather away
    has undesirable secondary effects along the lines of what happens if
    you stop all forest fires long enough for deep piles of kindling to
    pile up.

    That last is an interesting question. One difference is that forest
    fires are linked to the fuel load; after a fire, that area is unlikely
    to burn again for a long time. Its a negative feedback loop, and creates
    a semi-regular periodicity to fires, if humans don't interfere. Plants
    and animals can adapt to that.

    Hurricanes aren't sensitive to a 'has this area had a hurricane lately?' test. We're seeing this in Florida right now. They hit a give area
    pretty randomly - a hundred year gap might be followed by a two week
    one.

    I don't know if the current ecology would drift without occasional
    random hurricanes. Perhaps its would.

    pt
    bliss

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  • From Kevrob@21:1/5 to Cryptoengineer on Fri Oct 11 09:41:30 2024
    On 10/10/2024 8:47 AM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
    On 10/9/2024 6:41 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
    On 10/9/2024 2:55 PM, D wrote:


    On Wed, 9 Oct 2024, William Hyde wrote:

    D wrote:


    On Tue, 8 Oct 2024, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    “Did Hurricane Milton Have Help in Suddenly Becoming One of the
    Most Powerful Storms in History?”
    https://thelibertydaily.com/did-hurricane-milton-have-help-
    suddenly- becoming-one/
    OK, I have heard it all now.  Apparently the USA government has a >>>>>> storm enhancer machine using lasers and has used it to accelerate
    hurricanes Helene and Milton from a Cat 1 to a Cat 5 and targeted
    red areas to suppress the votes in the upcoming presidential
    election.

    Lynn


    Yep... just wait until Friedman arrives! You've seen nothing yet!

    Friedman's already been here. Used to advertise his fantasy novel,
    which I have not read.

    William Hyde


    Really? The son of Milton?

    Yes, David. Sometimes calling out his name three times causes him  to
    appear.

    He had this weird fetish for attempting to foment flamewars among the
    other regulars here. I'm glad he's gone.

    pt

    I'm sorry he is gone, but he's on substack, and I get updates about his
    posts through my LinkedIn account. So I keep up. Not enough sfnal
    content there, though.

    __

    Kevin R


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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to Charles Packer on Sat Oct 12 10:27:21 2024
    On 10/12/24 00:58, Charles Packer wrote:
    On 11 Oct 2024 13:24:36 -0000, Scott Dorsey wrote:

    Charles Packer <[email protected]> wrote:
    A related line of thinking more congenial to SF is the following:
    What would history have been like if it had been discovered, say, during >>> World War II that control like that could have been achieved?

    Would Stalin have succeeded in converting Siberia to a warm and
    temperate land able to grow many crops? Or would he have decided to
    leave it the way it was so he had a good place to keep gulags?
    --scott

    Don't you think he would have used the capability to pester the
    West? That's always seemed to be at the top of the Russian agenda,
    according to history that I've read.

    Stalin if alive would have not wanted a warm and temperate climate anywhere but Moscow and its immediate environs. But
    Siberia is warming now and we may regret it as the warming is producing
    large sinkholes after the methane trapped ine permafrost escapses into
    our atmosphere. Some of the same is happening on other areas under laid
    by large amounts of permafrost.
    That is aside from the clathrates in the undersea which is warming as well. Humanity has made some serious and perhaps irreversible
    mistakes since the Dawn of the Industrial Revolution.
    You can call me an optimist but I think we are Doomed.

    bliss

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  • From Kevrob@21:1/5 to Bobbie Sellers on Mon Oct 14 09:44:40 2024
    On 10/12/2024 1:27 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
    On 10/12/24 00:58, Charles Packer wrote:
    On 11 Oct 2024 13:24:36 -0000, Scott Dorsey wrote:

    Charles Packer  <[email protected]> wrote:
    A related line of thinking more congenial to SF is the following:
    What would history have been like if it had been discovered, say,
    during
    World War II that control like that could have been achieved?

    Would Stalin have succeeded in converting Siberia to a warm and
    temperate land able to grow many crops?  Or would he have decided to
    leave it the way it was so he had a good place to keep gulags?
    --scott

    Don't you think he would have used the capability to pester the
    West? That's always seemed to be at the top of the Russian agenda,
    according to history that I've read.

        Stalin if alive would have not wanted a warm and temperate climate anywhere but Moscow and its immediate environs.  But
    Siberia is warming now and we may regret it as the warming is producing
    large sinkholes after the methane trapped ine permafrost escapses into
    our atmosphere. Some of the same is happening on other areas under laid
    by large amounts of permafrost.
        That is aside from the clathrates in the undersea which is warming as well. Humanity has made some serious and perhaps irreversible
    mistakes since the Dawn of the Industrial Revolution.
        You can call me an optimist but I think we are Doomed.

        bliss


    Of course we are doomed. Whether it is the heat death of the universe
    of the universe, or something more imminent, entropy wins in the end.
    I was once intrigued by a "Big Bounce" but dark matter and dark energy
    may have taken that off the board. It will be something. Doom song!

    https://youtu.be/Nw_cdqQHGA8

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    Kevin

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