• Can CHATGPT or Google Gemini write Sci-fi

    From The Doctor@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 4 23:58:00 2024
    A question for discussion.
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  • From Chris Buckley@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Sat Oct 5 02:13:40 2024
    On 2024-10-04, The Doctor <[email protected]> wrote:
    A question for discussion.

    It's bee happening for a couple of years already. Why should it stop now that the AI is better?

    NY Times 2/23/2023
    And now, it seems, it's happening in real life. The editors of three
    science fiction magazines — Clarkesworld, The Magazine of Fantasy &
    Science Fiction, and Asimov's Science Fiction — said this week that
    they had been flooded by submissions of works of fiction generated
    by A.I. chatbots.

    Chris

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  • From Charles Packer@21:1/5 to Chris Buckley on Sat Oct 5 07:57:05 2024
    On 5 Oct 2024 02:13:40 GMT, Chris Buckley wrote:

    On 2024-10-04, The Doctor <[email protected]> wrote:
    A question for discussion.

    It's bee happening for a couple of years already. Why should it stop now
    that the AI is better?

    NY Times 2/23/2023
    And now, it seems, it's happening in real life. The editors of three
    science fiction magazines — Clarkesworld, The Magazine of Fantasy &
    Science Fiction, and Asimov's Science Fiction — said this week that
    they had been flooded by submissions of works of fiction generated by
    A.I. chatbots.

    Chris

    A tandem question might be posed: has human-written SF declined in quality precipitously since the start of the 21st century?

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Oct 5 14:20:20 2024
    In article <pan$a9c6$2a65d985$982c89a0$[email protected]>,
    Charles Packer <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 5 Oct 2024 02:13:40 GMT, Chris Buckley wrote:

    On 2024-10-04, The Doctor <[email protected]> wrote:
    A question for discussion.

    It's bee happening for a couple of years already. Why should it stop now
    that the AI is better?

    NY Times 2/23/2023
    And now, it seems, it's happening in real life. The editors of three
    science fiction magazines — Clarkesworld, The Magazine of Fantasy &
    Science Fiction, and Asimov's Science Fiction — said this week that
    they had been flooded by submissions of works of fiction generated by
    A.I. chatbots.

    Chris

    A tandem question might be posed: has human-written SF declined in quality >precipitously since the start of the 21st century?

    We are close to 25% into the Century.
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  • From Ahasuerus@21:1/5 to Chris Buckley on Sat Oct 5 11:36:30 2024
    On 10/4/2024 10:13 PM, Chris Buckley wrote:
    On 2024-10-04, The Doctor <[email protected]> wrote:
    A question for discussion.

    It's bee happening for a couple of years already. Why should it stop
    now that the AI is better?>
    NY Times 2/23/2023
    And now, it seems, it's happening in real life. The editors of three
    science fiction magazines — Clarkesworld, The Magazine of Fantasy &
    Science Fiction, and Asimov's Science Fiction — said this week that
    they had been flooded by submissions of works of fiction generated
    by A.I. chatbots.

    According to Neil Clarke's (the editor of _Clarkesworld_) post on
    February 15, 2023 (https://neil-clarke.com/a-concerning-trend/):

    I’m not going to detail how I know these stories are “AI” spam or outline any of the data I have collected from these submissions.
    There are some very obvious patterns [snip]

    I guess we could rephrase the original question: "Can CHATGPT or Google
    Gemini write SF that is not obviously AI-generated? And if they can't do
    it now, what about 1-3-5-10 years from now?" As Clarke wrote in his post:

    the technology is only going to get better, so detection will become
    more challenging

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 5 10:00:08 2024
    On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 11:36:30 -0400, Ahasuerus <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 10/4/2024 10:13 PM, Chris Buckley wrote:
    On 2024-10-04, The Doctor <[email protected]> wrote:
    A question for discussion.

    It's bee happening for a couple of years already. Why should it stop
    now that the AI is better?>
    NY Times 2/23/2023
    And now, it seems, it's happening in real life. The editors of three
    science fiction magazines � Clarkesworld, The Magazine of Fantasy &
    Science Fiction, and Asimov's Science Fiction � said this week that
    they had been flooded by submissions of works of fiction generated
    by A.I. chatbots.

    According to Neil Clarke's (the editor of _Clarkesworld_) post on
    February 15, 2023 (https://neil-clarke.com/a-concerning-trend/):

    I�m not going to detail how I know these stories are �AI� spam or
    outline any of the data I have collected from these submissions.
    There are some very obvious patterns [snip]

    I guess we could rephrase the original question: "Can CHATGPT or Google >Gemini write SF that is not obviously AI-generated? And if they can't do
    it now, what about 1-3-5-10 years from now?" As Clarke wrote in his post:

    the technology is only going to get better, so detection will become
    more challenging

    I believe there is work being done on that -- that is, leaving
    clues/marks that something is generated by AI.

    Of course, the only effect if this is doable and accepted at all will
    be two classes of AI: those that conform (and, if appropriate, are
    legal) and those that don't (and, if appropriate, are illegal).
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