• Re: "Elon Musk is aiming for SpaceX's Starship to reach Mars very soon"

    From Ahasuerus@21:1/5 to Lynn McGuire on Mon Sep 9 16:24:54 2024
    On 9/9/2024 4:09 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    "Elon Musk is aiming for SpaceX's Starship to reach Mars very soon"
       https://www.chron.com/culture/article/spacex-land-on-mars-19752466.php

    “The SpaceX CEO said the rocket will land on Mars in two years.”

    “There's only a certain window every two years when Earth and Mars are lined up and a journey to the Red Planet is efficient, and Elon Musk is trying to send Starship out when that happens in 2026.”

    Bold.  Unmanned of course.

    Tickets will be going on sale fairly soon for the second trip.  I
    suspect that it will be one way.

    I suppose it's also possible to miss Mars by an inch, fly around it and
    return to Earth. It worked when flying to the Moon (at least for the
    Baltimore Gun Club), so surely it will work with Mars...

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  • From Ahasuerus@21:1/5 to Lynn McGuire on Mon Sep 9 17:46:47 2024
    On 9/9/2024 5:00 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 9/9/2024 3:24 PM, Ahasuerus wrote:
    On 9/9/2024 4:09 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    "Elon Musk is aiming for SpaceX's Starship to reach Mars very soon"
        https://www.chron.com/culture/article/spacex-land-on-
    mars-19752466.php

    “The SpaceX CEO said the rocket will land on Mars in two years.”

    “There's only a certain window every two years when Earth and Mars
    are lined up and a journey to the Red Planet is efficient, and Elon
    Musk is trying to send Starship out when that happens in 2026.”

    Bold.  Unmanned of course.

    Tickets will be going on sale fairly soon for the second trip.  I
    suspect that it will be one way.

    I suppose it's also possible to miss Mars by an inch, fly around it
    and return to Earth. It worked when flying to the Moon (at least for
    the Baltimore Gun Club), so surely it will work with Mars...

    Got food for the return trip and a place to put human waste ?  Oxygen
    and a way to get rid of the excess CO2 ?

    I am sure Baltimore Gun Club members will be happy to offer suggestions. (Hopefully they won't make the same kind of math mistake that they made
    in the third volume of the series.)

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Lynn McGuire on Mon Sep 9 18:34:33 2024
    On 9/9/2024 2:00 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 9/9/2024 3:24 PM, Ahasuerus wrote:
    On 9/9/2024 4:09 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    "Elon Musk is aiming for SpaceX's Starship to reach Mars very soon"
        https://www.chron.com/culture/article/spacex-land-on-
    mars-19752466.php

    “The SpaceX CEO said the rocket will land on Mars in two years.”

    “There's only a certain window every two years when Earth and Mars
    are lined up and a journey to the Red Planet is efficient, and Elon
    Musk is trying to send Starship out when that happens in 2026.”

    Bold.  Unmanned of course.

    Tickets will be going on sale fairly soon for the second trip.  I
    suspect that it will be one way.

    I suppose it's also possible to miss Mars by an inch, fly around it
    and return to Earth. It worked when flying to the Moon (at least for
    the Baltimore Gun Club), so surely it will work with Mars...

    Got food for the return trip and a place to put human waste ?  Oxygen
    and a way to get rid of the excess CO2 ?

    How were they going to handle that once they landed on Mars?

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From Mad Hamish@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Sep 10 13:50:10 2024
    On Mon, 9 Sep 2024 20:59:51 -0500, Lynn McGuire
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 9/9/2024 8:34 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 9/9/2024 2:00 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 9/9/2024 3:24 PM, Ahasuerus wrote:
    On 9/9/2024 4:09 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    "Elon Musk is aiming for SpaceX's Starship to reach Mars very soon"
    ��� https://www.chron.com/culture/article/spacex-land-on-
    mars-19752466.php

    �The SpaceX CEO said the rocket will land on Mars in two years.�

    �There's only a certain window every two years when Earth and Mars
    are lined up and a journey to the Red Planet is efficient, and Elon
    Musk is trying to send Starship out when that happens in 2026.�

    Bold.� Unmanned of course.

    Tickets will be going on sale fairly soon for the second trip.� I
    suspect that it will be one way.

    I suppose it's also possible to miss Mars by an inch, fly around it
    and return to Earth. It worked when flying to the Moon (at least for
    the Baltimore Gun Club), so surely it will work with Mars...

    Got food for the return trip and a place to put human waste ?� Oxygen
    and a way to get rid of the excess CO2 ?

    How were they going to handle that once they landed on Mars?

    Going there, I assume that they have a plan. Coming back, I doubt it.
    These type of trips tend to be one way.

    I don't think we're in any position to make a colony on Mars that can
    sustain itself for long enough for other people to get there

    Just refueling the Starship
    will be incredibly difficult at best. I would guess some sort of CO2 +
    H2O -> CH4 + O2 reactor.

    I have no idea what was on the Mayflower coming back to Europe but it
    was not people other than the remaining crew who survived the winter.

    Yes, but America was a place where you could grow/gather/hunt for food
    and didn't need to produce oxygen

    and Columbus, Cook etc would probably be better comparisons

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  • From Ahasuerus@21:1/5 to Michael F. Stemper on Tue Sep 10 10:52:24 2024
    On 9/10/2024 8:50 AM, Michael F. Stemper wrote:
    On 09/09/2024 16.46, Ahasuerus wrote:
    On 9/9/2024 5:00 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 9/9/2024 3:24 PM, Ahasuerus wrote:

    I suppose it's also possible to miss Mars by an inch, fly around it
    and return to Earth. It worked when flying to the Moon (at least for
    the Baltimore Gun Club), so surely it will work with Mars...

    Got food for the return trip and a place to put human waste ?  Oxygen
    and a way to get rid of the excess CO2 ?

    I am sure Baltimore Gun Club members will be happy to offer
    suggestions. (Hopefully they won't make the same kind of math mistake
    that they made in the third volume of the series.)

    I never realized that there was a third.

    You are not missing much. Like a number of other "late Verne" works,
    it's dark and bitter. The math error is implausible in the extreme.

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