• Re: "Thora's Sacrifice (Perry Rhodan #70)" by Kurt Brand

    From Ted Nolan @21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Aug 24 19:11:44 2024
    In article <vadaav$1ggik$[email protected]>,
    Lynn McGuire <[email protected]> wrote:
    "Thora's Sacrifice (Perry Rhodan #70)" by Kurt Brand
    https://www.amazon.com/Thoras-Sacrifice-Perry-Rhodan-70/dp/B000LV97UM/

    Book number seventy of a series of one hundred and thirty-six space
    opera books in English. The original German books, actually pamphlets, >number in the thousands. The English books started with two translated >German stories per book translated by Wendayne Ackerman and transitioned
    to one story per book with the sixth book. And then they transition
    back to two stories in book #109/110. The Ace publisher dropped out at
    #118, so Forrest and Wendayne Ackerman published books #119 to #136 in >pamphlets before stopping in 1978. The German books were written from
    1961 to present time, having sold two billion copies and even recently
    been rebooted again. I read the well printed and well bound book
    published by Ace in 1975 that I had to be very careful with due to age.
    I bought an almost complete box of Perry Rhodans a decade or two ago on
    ebay that I am finally getting to since I lost my original Perry Rhodans
    in The Great Flood of 1989. In fact, I now own book #1 to book #106,
    plus the Atlan books, and some of the Lemuria books.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perry_Rhodan

    BTW, this is actually book number 78 of the German pamphlets written in
    1963. There is a very good explanation of the plot in German on the >Perrypedia German website of all of the PR books. There is automatic
    Google translation available for English, Spanish, Dutch, Japanese,
    French, and Portuguese.
    https://www.perrypedia.de/wiki/Thoras_Opfergang

    In this alternate universe, USSF Major Perry Rhodan and his three fellow >astronauts blasted off in a three stage rocket to the Moon in their
    1971. The first stage of the rocket was chemical, the second and third >stages were nuclear. After crashing on the Moon due to a strange radio >interference, they discover a massive crashed alien spaceship with an
    aged male scientist (Khrest), a female commander (Thora), and a crew of
    500. It has been over seventy years since then and the Solar Empire has >flourished with tens of millions of people and many spaceships
    headquartered in the Gobi desert, the city of Terrania. Perry Rhodan
    has been elected by the people of Earth to be the World Administrator
    and keep them from being taken over by the robot administrator of Arkon.

    Thora the Arkonide, now Thora Rhodan and mother of their child, is dying
    of old age. Perry was given immortality by the Immortal several decades
    ago but, the Immortal refused to give Arkonides Khrest and Thora
    immortality since they were a dying race. Perry Rhodan has General >Deringhouse take Thora with him on the Burma, a 100 meter (100 yards) >diameter spaceship, to the Arkon star system to negotiate with the Robot >Regent of Arkon for more star ships to fight the Druufs with. But the
    Robot Regent does not want to negotiate.

    Two observations:
    1. Forrest Ackerman should have put two or three of the translated
    stories in each book. Having two stories in the first five books worked
    out well. Just having one story in the book is too short and would
    never allow the translated books to catch up to the German originals.
    2. Anyone liking Perry Rhodan and wanting a more up to date story should
    read the totally awesome "Mutineer's Moon" Dahak series of three books
    by David Weber.
    https://www.amazon.com/Mutineers-Moon-Dahak-David-Weber/dp/0671720856/

    My rating: 5 out of 5 stars
    Amazon rating: 5 out of 5 stars (1 reviews)

    Lynn


    I think this and the Thomas Cardiff arc are where I really started notcing
    that the series wasn't written with American expectations in mind.
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  • From Ted Nolan @21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Aug 24 19:37:20 2024
    In article <vadc1p$1ggik$[email protected]>,
    Lynn McGuire <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 8/24/2024 2:11 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <vadaav$1ggik$[email protected]>,
    Lynn McGuire <[email protected]> wrote:
    "Thora's Sacrifice (Perry Rhodan #70)" by Kurt Brand
    https://www.amazon.com/Thoras-Sacrifice-Perry-Rhodan-70/dp/B000LV97UM/ >>>
    Book number seventy of a series of one hundred and thirty-six space
    opera books in English. The original German books, actually pamphlets,
    number in the thousands. The English books started with two translated
    German stories per book translated by Wendayne Ackerman and transitioned >>> to one story per book with the sixth book. And then they transition
    back to two stories in book #109/110. The Ace publisher dropped out at
    #118, so Forrest and Wendayne Ackerman published books #119 to #136 in
    pamphlets before stopping in 1978. The German books were written from
    1961 to present time, having sold two billion copies and even recently
    been rebooted again. I read the well printed and well bound book
    published by Ace in 1975 that I had to be very careful with due to age.
    I bought an almost complete box of Perry Rhodans a decade or two ago on
    ebay that I am finally getting to since I lost my original Perry Rhodans >>> in The Great Flood of 1989. In fact, I now own book #1 to book #106,
    plus the Atlan books, and some of the Lemuria books.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perry_Rhodan

    BTW, this is actually book number 78 of the German pamphlets written in
    1963. There is a very good explanation of the plot in German on the
    Perrypedia German website of all of the PR books. There is automatic
    Google translation available for English, Spanish, Dutch, Japanese,
    French, and Portuguese.
    https://www.perrypedia.de/wiki/Thoras_Opfergang

    In this alternate universe, USSF Major Perry Rhodan and his three fellow >>> astronauts blasted off in a three stage rocket to the Moon in their
    1971. The first stage of the rocket was chemical, the second and third
    stages were nuclear. After crashing on the Moon due to a strange radio
    interference, they discover a massive crashed alien spaceship with an
    aged male scientist (Khrest), a female commander (Thora), and a crew of
    500. It has been over seventy years since then and the Solar Empire has >>> flourished with tens of millions of people and many spaceships
    headquartered in the Gobi desert, the city of Terrania. Perry Rhodan
    has been elected by the people of Earth to be the World Administrator
    and keep them from being taken over by the robot administrator of Arkon. >>>
    Thora the Arkonide, now Thora Rhodan and mother of their child, is dying >>> of old age. Perry was given immortality by the Immortal several decades >>> ago but, the Immortal refused to give Arkonides Khrest and Thora
    immortality since they were a dying race. Perry Rhodan has General
    Deringhouse take Thora with him on the Burma, a 100 meter (100 yards)
    diameter spaceship, to the Arkon star system to negotiate with the Robot >>> Regent of Arkon for more star ships to fight the Druufs with. But the
    Robot Regent does not want to negotiate.

    Two observations:
    1. Forrest Ackerman should have put two or three of the translated
    stories in each book. Having two stories in the first five books worked >>> out well. Just having one story in the book is too short and would
    never allow the translated books to catch up to the German originals.
    2. Anyone liking Perry Rhodan and wanting a more up to date story should >>> read the totally awesome "Mutineer's Moon" Dahak series of three books
    by David Weber.
    https://www.amazon.com/Mutineers-Moon-Dahak-David-Weber/dp/0671720856/ >>>
    My rating: 5 out of 5 stars
    Amazon rating: 5 out of 5 stars (1 reviews)

    Lynn


    I think this and the Thomas Cardiff arc are where I really started notcing >> that the series wasn't written with American expectations in mind.

    Do you mean where everything is not a success ?

    Yup, there are definitely tragedies in the Perry Rhodan series.

    Lynn


    Yes basically, though more particularly while bad things might happen to
    Flash Gordon, it would never be Dale dieing...
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  • From Don@21:1/5 to Lynn McGuire on Sun Aug 25 02:39:33 2024
    Lynn McGuire wrote:
    "Thora's Sacrifice (Perry Rhodan #70)" by Kurt Brand
    https://www.amazon.com/Thoras-Sacrifice-Perry-Rhodan-70/dp/B000LV97UM/

    Book number seventy of a series of one hundred and thirty-six space
    opera books in English. The original German books, actually pamphlets, number in the thousands. The English books started with two translated German stories per book translated by Wendayne Ackerman and transitioned
    to one story per book with the sixth book. And then they transition
    back to two stories in book #109/110. The Ace publisher dropped out at
    #118, so Forrest and Wendayne Ackerman published books #119 to #136 in pamphlets before stopping in 1978. The German books were written from
    1961 to present time, having sold two billion copies and even recently
    been rebooted again. I read the well printed and well bound book
    published by Ace in 1975 that I had to be very careful with due to age.
    I bought an almost complete box of Perry Rhodans a decade or two ago on
    ebay that I am finally getting to since I lost my original Perry Rhodans
    in The Great Flood of 1989. In fact, I now own book #1 to book #106,
    plus the Atlan books, and some of the Lemuria books.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perry_Rhodan

    BTW, this is actually book number 78 of the German pamphlets written in
    1963. There is a very good explanation of the plot in German on the Perrypedia German website of all of the PR books. There is automatic
    Google translation available for English, Spanish, Dutch, Japanese,
    French, and Portuguese.
    https://www.perrypedia.de/wiki/Thoras_Opfergang

    In this alternate universe, USSF Major Perry Rhodan and his three fellow astronauts blasted off in a three stage rocket to the Moon in their
    1971. The first stage of the rocket was chemical, the second and third stages were nuclear. After crashing on the Moon due to a strange radio interference, they discover a massive crashed alien spaceship with an
    aged male scientist (Khrest), a female commander (Thora), and a crew of
    500. It has been over seventy years since then and the Solar Empire has flourished with tens of millions of people and many spaceships
    headquartered in the Gobi desert, the city of Terrania. Perry Rhodan
    has been elected by the people of Earth to be the World Administrator
    and keep them from being taken over by the robot administrator of Arkon.

    Thora the Arkonide, now Thora Rhodan and mother of their child, is dying
    of old age. Perry was given immortality by the Immortal several decades
    ago but, the Immortal refused to give Arkonides Khrest and Thora
    immortality since they were a dying race. Perry Rhodan has General Deringhouse take Thora with him on the Burma, a 100 meter (100 yards)

    Thora the Arkonide, now Thora Rhodan and mother of their child, is dying
    of old age. Perry was given immortality by the Immortal several decades
    ago but, the Immortal refused to give Arkonides Khrest and Thora
    immortality since they were a dying race. Perry Rhodan has General Deringhouse take Thora with him on the Burma, a 100 meter (100 yards) diameter spaceship, to the Arkon star system to negotiate with the Robot Regent of Arkon for more star ships to fight the Druufs with. But the
    Robot Regent does not want to negotiate.

    "Enterprise Stardust" made it easy for me to dislike Thora. Her haughty high-handedness as she lorded it over four astronauts she regarded as
    little more than apes instantly made Thora unlikeable, at first.
    "Pride goeth before a fall." And fall Thora did, until she came down
    to Earth to become quite likable. Readers shared her humiliation at the
    hands of a Robot Regent who ruthlessly ruled Thora's now degenerate
    empire.
    Along the way to Thora's ultimate demise der Autor, Brand, gives her
    a sudden surge of strength - a succor to send sad readers into denial.
    Then the sledge hammer of subverted expectations slams them in the gut.
    Through it all Thora remains regal. But Rhodan's never really quite
    the same afterward, nor their child Cardif. At Thora's funeral a
    foreshadow hints at Cardif's intentions to fully indulge his Oedipus
    complex [1] and kill his father. Thus the tragedy begins and
    metastasizes.

    Note.

    [1] <https://www.academypublication.com/issues/past/jltr/vol02/06/28.pdf>

    Danke,

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