On Sun, 21 Jul 2024 13:23:56 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (James
Nicoll) wrote:

The Lost Continent by C. J. Cutliffe Hyne

Phorenice rose from peasant's daughter to empress. Now she wants to
be a god. Deucalion might save Phorenice and Atlantis from Phorenice's
folly with the power of love... but Deucalion has fallen for another
woman.

https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/set-sail

Of course, Edgar Rice Burroughs also wrote a book with the same title. (Although it also had "Beyond Thirty" as an alternative title.)

That story celebrated isolationism on the part of the U.S. as the
appropriate response to World War I, and was highly offensive to
Canadians as well as to British readers, although readers in those
groups usually could just ignore the offensive elements to read an
exciting adventure story.

As for the Cutliffe-Hyne book, it seems as though it could have been
improved by turning it into a cautionary tale explaining how
modern-day Britain could save itself from sinking into the sea by
adopting a more egalitarian social order - rather than leaving the
inequities of Atlantean society as merely an unquestioned part of the background.

John Savard

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The Lost Continent by C. J. Cutliffe Hyne

Phorenice rose from peasant's daughter to empress. Now she wants to
be a god. Deucalion might save Phorenice and Atlantis from Phorenice's
folly with the power of love... but Deucalion has fallen for another
woman.

https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/set-sail
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On Sun, 21 Jul 2024 07:50:41 -0600, John Savard
<[email protected]d> wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jul 2024 13:23:56 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (James
Nicoll) wrote:

The Lost Continent by C. J. Cutliffe Hyne

Phorenice rose from peasant's daughter to empress. Now she wants to
be a god. Deucalion might save Phorenice and Atlantis from Phorenice's >>folly with the power of love... but Deucalion has fallen for another
woman.

https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/set-sail

Of course, Edgar Rice Burroughs also wrote a book with the same title. >(Although it also had "Beyond Thirty" as an alternative title.)

That story celebrated isolationism on the part of the U.S. as the
appropriate response to World War I, and was highly offensive to
Canadians as well as to British readers, although readers in those
groups usually could just ignore the offensive elements to read an
exciting adventure story.

I enjoyed it.

As for the Cutliffe-Hyne book, it seems as though it could have been
improved by turning it into a cautionary tale explaining how
modern-day Britain could save itself from sinking into the sea by
adopting a more egalitarian social order - rather than leaving the
inequities of Atlantean society as merely an unquestioned part of the >background.

Wells might have, had he thought of it. But perhaps Cutliffe-Hyne was
too much a part of the existing social order (existing in 1900 in
Britain) for that to be anything he would consider.
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Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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In article <v7j25c$64b$[email protected]>,
[email protected] (James Nicoll) wrote:

The Lost Continent by C. J. Cutliffe Hyne

Phorenice rose from peasant's daughter to empress. Now she wants to
be a god. Deucalion might save Phorenice and Atlantis from Phorenice's
folly with the power of love... but Deucalion has fallen for another
woman.

https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/set-sail

I believe I have read this (albeit 50 years ago), but I remember little
about it (for example, I recognize the cover).

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Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_. �-----------------------------------------------------
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In article <[email protected]>,
John Savard <[email protected]d> wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jul 2024 13:23:56 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (James
Nicoll) wrote:

The Lost Continent by C. J. Cutliffe Hyne

Phorenice rose from peasant's daughter to empress. Now she wants to
be a god. Deucalion might save Phorenice and Atlantis from Phorenice's >folly with the power of love... but Deucalion has fallen for another
woman.

https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/set-sail

Of course, Edgar Rice Burroughs also wrote a book with the same title. (Although it also had "Beyond Thirty" as an alternative title.)

I believe _Beyond Thirty_ was renamed _The Lost Continent_ by Donald
Wollheim when Ace printed the paperback edition in the 1960s.

--
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Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_. -------------------------------------------------------
Robert Woodward [email protected]

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In article <[email protected]>,
Paul S Person <[email protected]d> wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jul 2024 07:50:41 -0600, John Savard ><[email protected]d> wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jul 2024 13:23:56 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (James
Nicoll) wrote:

The Lost Continent by C. J. Cutliffe Hyne

Phorenice rose from peasant's daughter to empress. Now she wants to
be a god. Deucalion might save Phorenice and Atlantis from Phorenice's >>>folly with the power of love... but Deucalion has fallen for another >>>woman.

https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/set-sail

Of course, Edgar Rice Burroughs also wrote a book with the same title. >>(Although it also had "Beyond Thirty" as an alternative title.)

That story celebrated isolationism on the part of the U.S. as the >>appropriate response to World War I, and was highly offensive to
Canadians as well as to British readers, although readers in those
groups usually could just ignore the offensive elements to read an
exciting adventure story.

I enjoyed it.

As for the Cutliffe-Hyne book, it seems as though it could have been >>improved by turning it into a cautionary tale explaining how
modern-day Britain could save itself from sinking into the sea by
adopting a more egalitarian social order - rather than leaving the >>inequities of Atlantean society as merely an unquestioned part of the >>background.

Wells might have, had he thought of it. But perhaps Cutliffe-Hyne was
too much a part of the existing social order (existing in 1900 in
Britain) for that to be anything he would consider.

I don't know anything about Cutcliffe's politics but Deucalion absolutely
would reject any suggestion of social egalitarianism as improper and
likely impossible. It's as likely as Ian Paisley suggesting the
Democratic Unionist Party unite with Sinn Fein.
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Whoops. Ballantine misspelled Cutcliffe as Cutliffe and so did I.
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On Sun, 21 Jul 2024 16:55:09 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (James
Nicoll) wrote:

I don't know anything about Cutcliffe's politics but Deucalion absolutely >would reject any suggestion of social egalitarianism as improper and
likely impossible. It's as likely as Ian Paisley suggesting the
Democratic Unionist Party unite with Sinn Fein.
--

Heh heh - having seen the murals along both the Falls Road and the
Shankill Road when I was in Belfast in 2016 (we returned home the
Saturday before the Brexit referendum which was probably for the
better though my wife - who had booked our tickets - was annoyed to
had to miss the opening of the new wing of the Tait Modern on the
Friday we flew home - the referendum was the following Thursday)

If you compare the areas in Northern Ireland that voted DUP vs SF and
knew anything at all about Northern Ireland a few things would be
obvious .... though Paisley wouldn't be recommending any political
move given he died in 2014...

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On 21 Jul 2024 19:57:25 -0000, [email protected] (James Nicoll)
wrote:

Whoops. Ballantine misspelled Cutcliffe as Cutliffe and so did I.

As did I, despite Bing (and Wikipedia) having shown it correctly.
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On Sun, 21 Jul 2024 13:23:56 -0000 (UTC), James Nicoll wrote:

The Lost Continent by C. J. Cutliffe Hyne

Phorenice rose from peasant's daughter to empress. Now she wants to be a
god. Deucalion might save Phorenice and Atlantis from Phorenice's folly
with the power of love... but Deucalion has fallen for another woman.

https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/set-sail

It seems that at the same time this novel was published in the
U.S and being reviewed by many newspapers, a long article about
a theory of Atlantis was sent out to papers all over the country:

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-topeka-state-journal-atlantis- theory/151976532/

Shortened:
https://tinyurl.com/24zn3htj

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In article <pan$a4790$a0af0cca$73e010c8$[email protected]>,
Charles Packer <[email protected]> wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jul 2024 13:23:56 -0000 (UTC), James Nicoll wrote:

The Lost Continent by C. J. Cutliffe Hyne

Phorenice rose from peasant's daughter to empress. Now she wants to be a
god. Deucalion might save Phorenice and Atlantis from Phorenice's folly
with the power of love... but Deucalion has fallen for another woman.

https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/set-sail

It seems that at the same time this novel was published in the
U.S and being reviewed by many newspapers, a long article about
a theory of Atlantis was sent out to papers all over the country:

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-topeka-state-journal-atlantis- >theory/151976532/

This is completely obsolete. Swedish scientists have definitively established that the land called Atlantis is actually Ireland.

https://www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/lost-city-atlantis-ireland

This means Aquaman should have a proper brogue.
--scott
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On 25 Jul 2024 19:47:06 -0000, [email protected] (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

In article <pan$a4790$a0af0cca$73e010c8$[email protected]>,
Charles Packer <[email protected]> wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jul 2024 13:23:56 -0000 (UTC), James Nicoll wrote:

The Lost Continent by C. J. Cutliffe Hyne

Phorenice rose from peasant's daughter to empress. Now she wants to be a >>> god. Deucalion might save Phorenice and Atlantis from Phorenice's folly
with the power of love... but Deucalion has fallen for another woman.

https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/set-sail

It seems that at the same time this novel was published in the
U.S and being reviewed by many newspapers, a long article about
a theory of Atlantis was sent out to papers all over the country:

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-topeka-state-journal-atlantis- >>theory/151976532/

This is completely obsolete. Swedish scientists have definitively established >that the land called Atlantis is actually Ireland.

https://www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/lost-city-atlantis-ireland

I notice it completely ignores the fact that Atlantis /sank into the
sea and was never seen again/. When last I checked, Ireland was still
above water.

Well, I suppose it does deal with it by attributing it to a tsunami.
But that still doesn't explain the lack of sinking.

Sane people believe Plato was talking about the island of Thera, near
Crete, which vanished when its volcano blew its top around 1600 BC.
Since this was 1100 years or so before Plato was around, a certain
amount of embellishment/conflation with other events is likely.

Other equally-sane people, of course, believe he made the whole thing
up.

Nutters, OTOH, ....

This means Aquaman should have a proper brogue.

That might make the live-action version a bit easier to take.

Or at least more pleasant to listen to. Provided "brogue" here refers
to an Irish accent that includes the lilt.

Well, unless you were referring to the Irish shoe, of course.

(I was hoping to refer to a song I know exists about a lighthouse
keeper and a member of a rock-and-roll band but trying to find it on
Bing is amazingly unproductive. Every time I see the live-action
Aquaman trailer I recall the line of the song I remember.)
--
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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