• (ReacTor) Five Utterly Convincing Reasons We Must Conquer Space!

    From James Nicoll@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 11 14:06:37 2024
    Five Utterly Convincing Reasons We Must Conquer Space!

    Ignore the economists, astronomers, and other naysayers--the time for
    action is now!

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  • From John Savard@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 11 21:10:31 2024
    On 11 Jul 2024 14:06:37 -0000, [email protected] (James Nicoll)
    wrote:

    Five Utterly Convincing Reasons We Must Conquer Space!

    Ignore the economists, astronomers, and other naysayers--the time for
    action is now!

    https://reactormag.com/five-utterly-convincing-reasons-we-must-conquer-space/

    I find your arguments cogent and well-reasoned. That does not mean,
    however, that I find myself fully convinced by them.

    Of course, though, everyone here knows that the _real_ reason we must
    have domed colonies on Mars is the same reason why we must develop
    flying cars! If people fail to see the necessity of this, they just
    don't get it, and there's no use in trying to argue with them.

    When it comes to the arguments you did present, though, I do find your
    take on "Abundant Lunar Helium-3" and "Boundless Mineral Wealth"
    completely convincing. Lunar Helium-3 may someday be useful in
    powering ships to travel to other star systems, and thus shouldn't be squandered on generating electricity on Earth even when we do acquire
    the ability to use it.

    As for "The Menace from the Sun" and "Andromeda", I am not 100%
    convinced by your debunking of these as reasons; I am only 99.99%
    convinced.

    The part I find unconvincing is summed up in your sentence "Humans
    have far more in common with Hallucigenia than whatever will call
    Earth home by the time Andromeda arrives."

    I expect the human race to face the question of survival with a
    sufficiently determined effort to ensure success, so that even at that
    far distant time, humans won't be replaced by more-evolved lizards or more-evolved beetles or even more-evolved New World monkeys.

    However, it may be pointed out that the way evolution works in the
    real world is that new changes spread in small, isolated populations.
    So even if _humans_ evolve, then not once, but multiple times, the
    great mass of the human race will _still_ end up being replaced by the descendants of a small group of upstarts who have been the
    beneficiaries of some evolutionary advancement.

    However, we have already developed a technology known as CRISPR which
    shows how we can deal with this. When it comes to evolution, we are
    now in a position to adopt the policy of No Child Left Behind.

    Of course, though, _that_ also requires caution, because a new
    evolutionary innovation which _seems_ promising might prove ultimately
    fatal, so before we make a new innovation universal, we have to study
    it thoroughly.

    Given the long time scale, though, these reasons aren't arguments for increasing spending on space exploration to any noticeable extent. All
    we must do is keep civilization from collapsing until we are ready to
    make an effort to expand into space, even if it takes millions of
    years to get ready.

    My most serious objections, therefore, are to the argument "Nuclear
    War and Other Planetary-Scale Calamities".

    Being on Mars, if one has had sufficient time to prepare, puts one at
    a great advantage, compared to people on Earth, in setting up a
    missile defense system to keep out Russian bombs or astronauts. It's
    so far away that incoming missiles have a long way to go.

    That Mars is even less hospitable than the Earth would be after a
    nuclear war is also a weaker argument than you take it to be. The
    problem with being on Earth is that you don't _only_ have the
    environment to contend with. You have the surviving soldiers of the
    other side, who may be making a determined effort to scour the Earth
    of every vestige of freedom.

    Even something as simple as an asteroid impact presents the issue that
    we can't predict just _where_ and _how_ an asteroid will strike, and
    so confidence that our technological civilization can be preserved in
    such an event is not really attainable.

    So establishing colonies on Mars, relatively soon, is a valid measure
    to reduce risk.

    John Savard

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  • From John Savard@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Jul 11 21:33:11 2024
    On Thu, 11 Jul 2024 21:10:31 -0600, John Savard
    <[email protected]d> wrote:

    However, it may be pointed out that the way evolution works in the
    real world is that new changes spread in small, isolated populations.
    So even if _humans_ evolve, then not once, but multiple times, the
    great mass of the human race will _still_ end up being replaced by the >descendants of a small group of upstarts who have been the
    beneficiaries of some evolutionary advancement.

    However, we have already developed a technology known as CRISPR which
    shows how we can deal with this. When it comes to evolution, we are
    now in a position to adopt the policy of No Child Left Behind.

    Of course, though, _that_ also requires caution, because a new
    evolutionary innovation which _seems_ promising might prove ultimately
    fatal, so before we make a new innovation universal, we have to study
    it thoroughly.

    This argument can be made clearer by using examples that may be
    familiar to some here.

    Don't think X-Men; think Inhumans.

    That is, instead of following the ultimately self-destructive lead of
    the ordinary humans in the world of the X-Men, who have been fooled by demagogic politicians into persecuting mutants, follow the example of
    the Inhumans, who have decided on a strategy that embraces progress
    and innovation.

    John Savard

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  • From David Duffy@21:1/5 to James Nicoll on Fri Jul 12 07:20:01 2024
    James Nicoll <[email protected]> wrote:
    Five Utterly Convincing Reasons We Must Conquer Space!

    Ignore the economists, astronomers, and other naysayers--the time for
    action is now!

    https://reactormag.com/five-utterly-convincing-reasons-we-must-conquer-space/

    "Particularly annoying economists would muse about what happened when the Spanish poured..."

    which is why we need cartels!

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to Duffy on Fri Jul 12 08:55:28 2024
    On Fri, 12 Jul 2024 07:20:01 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (David
    Duffy) wrote:

    James Nicoll <[email protected]> wrote:
    Five Utterly Convincing Reasons We Must Conquer Space!

    Ignore the economists, astronomers, and other naysayers--the time for
    action is now!

    https://reactormag.com/five-utterly-convincing-reasons-we-must-conquer-space/

    "Particularly annoying economists would muse about what happened when the Spanish poured..."

    which is why we need cartels!

    What happened was proof-positive that the Gold Standard does not
    prevent inflation.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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