On Sun, 7 Jul 2024 13:07:27 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
<[email protected]> wrote:

On 7/7/2024 8:50 AM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:

In article <v6e7sq$c57s$[email protected]>,
Michael F. Stemper <[email protected]> wrote:

On 06/07/2024 15.54, Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 7/6/2024 1:54 AM, The Horny Goat wrote:

On Wed, 26 Jun 2024 12:34:40 -0400, Tony Nance <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote:

Two more that I think fit come from two different Wells:
- I don't think the protagonist of Wells' The War of the Worlds has a name.
- I don't think Wells' Murderbot has acquired a name yet (besides
"Murderbot")- at least not one they accept.

Speaking of HG Wells, the protagonist of The Time Machine (which I
decided after all these years I should finally read it - and completed >>>>> it this morning) definitely doesn't.

The Time Machine's Protagonist's name is H. G. Wells.� The Time Traveler. >>>

In what chapter is The Time Traveller referred to as "H. G. Wells"?

Here is the text:
<https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/35/pg35-images.html>

I believe it happens in this chapter:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_After_Time_(1979_film)

That's not the book though. NEVER assume anything at all in a movie
based on a book has anything to do with the original book.

For that matter the George Pal movie did this first: the Traveller is
referred to as "George" by his companions, and the machine's control
panel states that it was manufactured by "H. George Wells".

As far as the original is concerned it explicitly avoids giving his
name, as here in Chapter 2:
'"Where�s ---?" said I, naming our host.'

--
Jerry Brown

A cat may look at a king
(but probably won't bother)

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Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 6/26/2024 11:34 AM, Tony Nance wrote:

On 6/26/24 10:08 AM, James Nicoll wrote:

Five SFF Works Featuring Nameless Protagonists

What's in a name?

https://reactormag.com/five-sff-works-featuring-nameless-protagonists/

Oh spiffy - very interesting essay - thanks.

Of the very few that came to mind, one is in your essay (A Nameless Witch[1]), and one is in the comments (Zelazny's My Name is Legion).

The other definite one that came to mind is Annihilation[2] by Jeff Vandermeer.

Two more that I think fit come from two different Wells:
- I don't think the protagonist of Wells' The War of the Worlds has
a name. - I don't think Wells' Murderbot has acquired a name yet
(besides "Murderbot")- at least not one they accept.

...

Murderbot took the name of the Security Consultant Rin when it was
headed toward the mining planet where the bots went rogue on the
miners. I suspect that we will see that name again.

It used "Eden" in the second story. In Fugitive Telemetry, there was a negotiation for a "Feed ID" to use in Preservation territory, and the
matter was settled with "SecUnit". That's pretty much what all the
Preservation people called it in the novels.


Brian

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On Sun, 25 May 2025 13:47:42 +0100, Robert Carnegie
<[email protected]> wrote:

On 07/07/2024 15:14, Michael F. Stemper wrote:

On 06/07/2024 15.54, Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 7/6/2024 1:54 AM, The Horny Goat wrote:

On Wed, 26 Jun 2024 12:34:40 -0400, Tony Nance <[email protected]>
wrote:

Two more that I think fit come from two different Wells:
- I don't think the protagonist of Wells' The War of the Worlds has
a name.
- I don't think Wells' Murderbot has acquired a name yet (besides
"Murderbot")- at least not one they accept.

Speaking of HG Wells, the protagonist of The Time Machine (which I
decided after all these years I should finally read it - and completed >>>> it this morning) definitely doesn't.

The Time Machine's Protagonist's name is H. G. Wells.� The Time Traveler. >>

In what chapter is The Time Traveller referred to as "H. G. Wells"?

Here is the text:
<https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/35/pg35-images.html>

H. G. Wells is one of the fellows who has dinner
with the Time Traveller.

The narrator is most likely Hillyer, since the TT mentions seeing him
briefly in the lab just before he arrives back. This would tally with
the narrator looking into the room and glimpsing the TT's second
departure.

From the gutenberg link above:

Chapter XV "The Time Traveller�s Return"

�I saw one little thing that seemed odd to me. I think I have told you
that when I set out, before my velocity became very high, Mrs.
Watchett had walked across the room, travelling, as it seemed to me,
like a rocket. As I returned, I passed again across that minute when
she traversed the laboratory. But now her every motion appeared to be
the exact inversion of her previous ones. The door at the lower end
opened, and she glided quietly up the laboratory, back foremost, and disappeared behind the door by which she had previously entered. Just
before that I seemed to see Hillyer for a moment; but he passed like a
flash.

Chapter XVI "After the Story"

As I took hold of the handle of the door I heard an exclamation, oddly truncated at the end, and a click and a thud. A gust of air whirled
round me as I opened the door, and from within came the sound of
broken glass falling on the floor. The Time Traveller was not there. I
seemed to see a ghostly, indistinct figure sitting in a whirling mass
of black and brass for a moment�a figure so transparent that the bench
behind with its sheets of drawings was absolutely distinct; but this
phantasm vanished as I rubbed my eyes. The Time Machine had gone. Save
for a subsiding stir of dust, the further end of the laboratory was
empty. A pane of the skylight had, apparently, just been blown in.

And then writes the
story down? Does "T. T." give it all that
evening? Does he go and have his adventure
between courses?

They were two separate occasions,

I don't remember.

Oh dear, I seem to be reviving a thread from 2024.
Well, it suits the topic.

--
Jerry Brown

A cat may look at a king
(but probably won't bother)

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