• PPP: Haunted Houses / Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

    From George J. Dance@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 31 12:47:23 2022
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    Penny's Poetry Blog's poem for Hallowe'en
    Haunted Houses, by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
    -
    All houses wherein men have lived and died
    Are haunted houses. Through the open doors
    The harmless phantoms on their errands glide,
    With feet that make no sound upon the floors,
    [...] https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/10/ppb-haunted-houses-henry-wadsworth.html

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  • From George J. Dance@21:1/5 to George J. Dance on Mon Oct 31 13:23:07 2022
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    On 2022-10-31 12:47 p.m., George J. Dance wrote:
    Penny's Poetry Blog's poem for Hallowe'en
    Haunted Houses, by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
    -
    All houses wherein men have lived and died
        Are haunted houses. Through the open doors
    The harmless phantoms on their errands glide,
        With feet that make no sound upon the floors,
    [...] https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/10/ppb-haunted-houses-henry-wadsworth.html


    On 2022-10-31 12:47 p.m., George J. Dance wrote:
    Penny's Poetry Blog's poem for Hallowe'en
    Haunted Houses, by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
    -
    All houses wherein men have lived and died
    Are haunted houses. Through the open doors
    The harmless phantoms on their errands glide,
    With feet that make no sound upon the floors,
    [...]

    https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/10/ppb-haunted-houses-henry-wadsworth.html

    I saw an earlier request, on an earlier PPB post, that asked me to
    include some original commentary with these poem. (That was made on
    aapc, for the benefit of RAP readers). So let's do that here.

    Does the past exist, other than subjectively (as individual memories)? Obviously, past reality effects present reality. It's reality that I
    live in a home that was built; it's reality that someone built it; and
    it's a matter of fact (fact being a detail of reality) who those people
    were, how they built it, what jobs each of them did, what they ate on
    the job, who made their lunches, their \family statuses, their
    religions, and on and on ... By the same token, those who lived in those
    houses were similarly real.

    However, those people's present reality is that they're not here, not
    working on my home or living in it. So the easy answer is, no, these
    other people living in my home do not exist. It's correct to say that
    they did exist (in the past), but not that they do exist (in the present).

    But that answer is not based simply on reality, but on how we normally conceptualize reality, as divided into past (what we're aware of, but
    can't alter), future (what we can alter, and are not aware of), and
    present (the shifting boundary between the other two states).

    On the other hand, there are some who do not accept that distinction,
    and believe that past, present, and future exist simultaneously. For
    those, it would follow that these past residents of the house are here now.

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  • From General-Zod@21:1/5 to Will Dockery on Tue Nov 8 22:39:02 2022
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    Will Dockery wrote:

    On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 12:45:30 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 12:31:25 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
    On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 1:23:10 PM UTC-4, George J. Dance wrote:

    Penny's Poetry Blog's poem for Hallowe'en
    Haunted Houses, by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
    -
    All houses wherein men have lived and died
    Are haunted houses. Through the open doors
    The harmless phantoms on their errands glide,
    With feet that make no sound upon the floors,
    [...]
    https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/10/ppb-haunted-houses-henry-wadsworth.html

    On 2022-10-31 12:47 p.m., George J. Dance wrote:
    Penny's Poetry Blog's poem for Hallowe'en
    Haunted Houses, by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
    -
    All houses wherein men have lived and died
    Are haunted houses. Through the open doors
    The harmless phantoms on their errands glide,
    With feet that make no sound upon the floors,
    [...]

    https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/10/ppb-haunted-houses-henry-wadsworth.html

    I saw an earlier request, on an earlier PPB post, that asked me to
    include some original commentary with these poem. (That was made on
    aapc, for the benefit of RAP readers). So let's do that here.

    Does the past exist, other than subjectively (as individual memories)?
    Obviously, past reality effects present reality. It's reality that I
    live in a home that was built; it's reality that someone built it; and
    it's a matter of fact (fact being a detail of reality) who those people
    were, how they built it, what jobs each of them did, what they ate on
    the job, who made their lunches, their family statuses, their
    religions, and on and on ... By the same token, those who lived in those
    houses were similarly real.

    However, those people's present reality is that they're not here, not
    working on my home or living in it. So the easy answer is, no, these
    other people living in my home do not exist. It's correct to say that
    they did exist (in the past), but not that they do exist (in the present).

    But that answer is not based simply on reality, but on how we normally
    conceptualize reality, as divided into past (what we're aware of, but
    can't alter), future (what we can alter, and are not aware of), and
    present (the shifting boundary between the other two states).

    On the other hand, there are some who do not accept that distinction,
    and believe that past, present, and future exist simultaneously. For
    those, it would follow that these past residents of the house are here now.
    Outstanding read, G.D.
    Shut up, Todd.
    Says Michael Pendragon, as he slings his monkey shit, as usual.
    George Dance opened a discussion on the subjective nature of reality -- specifically citing my own beliefs regarding the illusion of time. I provided an equally in-depth response.

    If Todd had contributed anything of value to the discussion, his response would have been met with a different response.

    Generic slurpages, otoh, are not conducive to literary discussion, and are not welcome here (at least, not by me).

    Your trolling is equally unwelcome... and, unfortunately, expected.,
    As is your use of the stale "Todd" one-liner, little monkey

    HTH and HAND.
    *PLONK*

    Good riddance to Michael Pendragon, shit spewing little monkey.

    Yep, ///skip and ignore/// is a blessing for us all...!

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