• Re: Using artificial intelligence as a poetry tool

    From HarryLime@21:1/5 to W.Dockery on Mon Feb 24 14:15:17 2025
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.poetry

    On Mon, 24 Feb 2025 9:06:35 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

    On Sun, 23 Feb 2025 20:23:29 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:

    On Sun, 23 Feb 2025 0:36:41 +0000, NancyGene wrote:

    On Sun, 23 Feb 2025 0:28:07 +0000, Will Dockery wrote:

    I know Nancy Gene uses artificial intelligence for writing poetry as
    well, which seems unethical in a way.

    Will Dockery, what is the proof for your statement that we "use(s)
    artificial intelligence for writing poetry..."

    Okay, I am sure I saw some posts where you were experiencing with
    artificial intelligence some time ago, back in the Google Groups era.


    I thought you were going to turn of spellcheck, Donkey.

    A few years ago, NancyGene and I conducted some experiments with Bard in
    this group. We wanted to see whether AI had advanced to the point that
    it could write poetry as well as humans. We did not claim credit for
    the poems, but attributed them to Bard.


    Here's one you posted to aapc in 2020, NastyGoon:

    <quote>
    "Get AI help with your poetry writing"

    "Google's 'Verse by Verse' AI can help you write in the style of famous
    poets"
    https://sites.research.google/versebyverse/

    We put in the first stanza of Michael Pendragon's new poem "Yet Pumpkins
    Linger" and used the site's suggestions for the lines:

    Michael Pendragon’s “Yet Pumpkins Linger”
    Composed in “Verse by Verse”
    Inspired by Edgar Allan Poe

    November's chill crept in upon a cloud
    Born of a dark and love within the sky:
    But waft her in her sepulchre there again
    Kept her sad Present in a one by bed.
    Sometimes as a spell in the dream she wore,
    Leaving her very soul within a dream.
    </q>
    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/9lY_yinHCFg/m/UC10PrIRBAAJ

    Exactly. It is clearly attributed to Bard.


    Granted, I see the value in artificial intelligence for getting
    perspective and a means to "polish up" a work in progress, but it just
    isn't really my cup of tea

    And so it goes.

    It isn't anyone's cup of tea, Donkey -- which is why neither NancyGene
    or I use it to compose our poetry.

    And, as noted to George, when AI reaches the level where it can write
    great poetry, I would applaud its poetry as such. I might even consider publishing a book of AI generated poetry. But I would certainly
    attribute it to AI -- since AI would be the one that actually composed
    it.

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