Adam,

So I've been communicating with Anim.

I think EasyNews needs to restart their server - Anim's last post to RAT
that we can see is from Aug. 20, but he's saying he's been posting the
whole time since then. That probably means that his posts are getting to
the EasyNews server, but they aren't being propagated from EasyNews.

Do you know anyone over at EasyNews you can contact to see if they can
make sure their server is fine and doesn't need to be restarted so
messages start propagating again?

Danke.

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Ian J. Ball <[email protected]d> wrote:

Adam,

So I've been communicating with Anim.

I think EasyNews needs to restart their server - Anim's last post to RAT
that we can see is from Aug. 20, but he's saying he's been posting the
whole time since then. That probably means that his posts are getting to
the EasyNews server, but they aren't being propagated from EasyNews.

Do you know anyone over at EasyNews you can contact to see if they can
make sure their server is fine and doesn't need to be restarted so
messages start propagating again?

Danke.

I've had no correspondence with them, sorry,

The best way to handle this is posting to eternal-september.support
since a number of News administrators read it and follow issues raised
in it.

It would help greatly if anim gave you a list of Message-IDs after
August 20 and then we could figure out why they aren't propogating. It
doesn't have to be a complete list. I'd post the list to that newsgroup.

Either you or he could send me something in email.

If they show up on Usenet elsewhere, then we know that Easynews is still peering. A peer beteen news.eternal-september.org and Easynews may be down,
if they don't peer directly.

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On 8/28/25 10:28 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

The best way to handle this is posting to eternal-september.support
since a number of News administrators read it and follow issues raised
in it.

It would help greatly if anim gave you a list of Message-IDs after
August 20 and then we could figure out why they aren't propogating. It doesn't have to be a complete list. I'd post the list to that newsgroup.

Either you or he could send me something in email.

If they show up on Usenet elsewhere, then we know that Easynews is still peering. A peer beteen news.eternal-september.org and Easynews may be down, if they don't peer directly.

Anim sent me his log here it is:

This is my entire log because I can’t tell if it’s oldest to newest or newest to oldest

Appreciate the help by the way
--

NewsTap Log

09:33:02 Server #0: news.easynews.com
09:33:03 S0: 200 news.easynews.com Welcome!
09:33:03 C0: AUTHINFO USER anim8rfsk
09:33:03 S0: 381 PASS required
09:33:03 C0: AUTHINFO PASS ********************
09:33:03 S0: 281 Welcome To Easynews. Account failure issues please see https://account.easynews.com (Posting Allowed)
09:33:03 C0: MODE READER
09:33:03 S0: 200 news.easynews.com Welcome! (Posting Allowed)
09:33:03 C0: GROUP rec.arts.tv
09:33:03 S0: 211 3094055 2 3094056 rec.arts.tv
09:33:03 C0: ARTICLE 3093934
09:33:03 S0: 220 3093934 <[email protected]>
09:33:03 C0: ARTICLE 3093935
09:33:04 S0: 220 3093935 <[email protected]>
09:33:04 C0: ARTICLE 3093936
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09:33:04 C0: ARTICLE 3093937
09:33:04 S0: 220 3093937 <[email protected]>
09:33:04 C0: ARTICLE 3093938
09:33:04 S0: 220 3093938 <[email protected]>
09:33:04 C0: ARTICLE 3093939
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09:33:04 C0: ARTICLE 3093940
09:33:04 S0: 220 3093940 <[email protected]>
09:33:04 C0: ARTICLE 3093941
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09:33:04 C0: ARTICLE 3093942
09:33:04 S0: 220 3093942 <[email protected]>
09:33:04 C0: ARTICLE 3093943
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09:33:05 C0: ARTICLE 3093944
09:33:05 S0: 220 3093944 <[email protected]>
09:33:05 C0: ARTICLE 3093945
09:33:05 S0: 220 3093945 <[email protected]>
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09:33:08 C0: ARTICLE 3093970
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09:33:10 S0: 220 3093981 <108om03$13fs5$[email protected]>
09:33:10 C0: ARTICLE 3093982
09:33:10 S0: 220 3093982 <[email protected]>
09:33:10 C0: ARTICLE 3093983
09:33:10 S0: 220 3093983 <108oub2$15h1p$[email protected]>
09:33:10 C0: ARTICLE 3093984
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09:33:11 S0: 220 3093987 <[email protected]>
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09:33:12 C0: ARTICLE 3093994
09:33:12 S0: 220 3093994 <[email protected]>
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09:33:12 S0: 220 3093995 <108pjib$1bgl$[email protected]>
09:33:12 C0: ARTICLE 3093996
09:33:12 S0: 220 3093996 <[email protected]>
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09:33:12 S0: 220 3093997 <[email protected]>
09:33:12 C0: ARTICLE 3093998
09:33:12 S0: 220 3093998 <[email protected]>
09:33:12 C0: ARTICLE 3093999
09:33:12 S0: 220 3093999 <[email protected]>
09:33:12 C0: ARTICLE 3094000
09:33:12 S0: 220 3094000 <[email protected]>
09:33:12 C0: ARTICLE 3094001
09:33:13 S0: 220 3094001 <[email protected]>
09:33:13 C0: ARTICLE 3094002
09:33:13 S0: 220 3094002 <[email protected]>
09:33:13 C0: ARTICLE 3094003
09:33:13 S0: 220 3094003 <[email protected]>
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09:33:13 S0: 220 3094004 <[email protected]>
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09:33:13 S0: 220 3094005 <[email protected]>
09:33:13 C0: ARTICLE 3094006
09:33:13 S0: 220 3094006 <[email protected]>
09:33:13 C0: ARTICLE 3094007
09:33:13 S0: 220 3094007 <[email protected]>
09:33:13 C0: ARTICLE 3094008
09:33:13 S0: 220 3094008 <[email protected]>
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09:33:14 S0: 220 3094009 <[email protected]>
09:33:14 C0: ARTICLE 3094010
09:33:14 S0: 220 3094010 <[email protected]>
09:33:14 C0: ARTICLE 3094011
09:33:14 S0: 220 3094011 <[email protected]>
09:33:14 C0: ARTICLE 3094012
09:33:14 S0: 220 3094012 <[email protected]>
09:33:14 C0: ARTICLE 3094013
09:33:14 S0: 220 3094013 <[email protected]>
09:33:14 C0: ARTICLE 3094014
09:33:14 S0: 220 3094014 <[email protected]>
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09:33:14 S0: 220 3094015 <[email protected]>
09:33:14 C0: ARTICLE 3094016
09:33:14 S0: 220 3094016 <[email protected]>
09:33:14 C0: ARTICLE 3094017
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09:33:15 S0: 220 3094018 <[email protected]>
09:33:15 C0: ARTICLE 3094019
09:33:15 S0: 220 3094019 <[email protected]>
09:33:15 C0: ARTICLE 3094020
09:33:15 S0: 220 3094020 <[email protected]>
09:33:15 C0: ARTICLE 3094021
09:33:15 S0: 220 3094021 <[email protected]>
09:33:15 C0: ARTICLE 3094022
09:33:15 S0: 220 3094022 <[email protected]>
09:33:15 C0: ARTICLE 3094023
09:33:15 S0: 220 3094023 <[email protected]>
09:33:15 C0: ARTICLE 3094024
09:33:15 S0: 220 3094024 <[email protected]>
09:33:15 C0: ARTICLE 3094025
09:33:16 S0: 220 3094025 <108pn2b$1jec$[email protected]>
09:33:16 C0: ARTICLE 3094026
09:33:16 S0: 220 3094026 <108prun$ph1$[email protected]>
09:33:16 C0: ARTICLE 3094027
09:33:16 S0: 220 3094027 <108pt4g$1f00r$[email protected]>
09:33:16 C0: ARTICLE 3094028
09:33:16 S0: 220 3094028 <[email protected]>
09:33:16 C0: ARTICLE 3094029
09:33:16 S0: 220 3094029 <[email protected]>
09:33:16 C0: ARTICLE 3094030
09:33:16 S0: 220 3094030 <[email protected]>
09:33:16 C0: ARTICLE 3094031
09:33:16 S0: 220 3094031 <[email protected]>
09:33:16 C0: ARTICLE 3094032
09:33:17 S0: 220 3094032 <[email protected]>
09:33:17 C0: ARTICLE 3094033
09:33:17 S0: 220 3094033 <[email protected]>
09:33:17 C0: ARTICLE 3094034
09:33:17 S0: 220 3094034 <[email protected]>
09:33:17 C0: ARTICLE 3094035
09:33:17 S0: 220 3094035 <[email protected]>
09:33:17 C0: ARTICLE 3094036
09:33:17 S0: 220 3094036 <[email protected]>
09:33:17 C0: ARTICLE 3094037
09:33:17 S0: 220 3094037 <[email protected]>
09:33:17 C0: ARTICLE 3094038
09:33:17 S0: 220 3094038 <[email protected]>
09:33:17 C0: ARTICLE 3094039
09:33:17 S0: 220 3094039 <[email protected]>
09:33:17 C0: ARTICLE 3094040
09:33:18 S0: 220 3094040 <[email protected]>
09:33:18 C0: ARTICLE 3094041
09:33:18 S0: 220 3094041 <[email protected]>
09:33:18 C0: ARTICLE 3094042
09:33:18 S0: 220 3094042 <[email protected]>
09:33:18 C0: ARTICLE 3094043
09:33:18 S0: 220 3094043 <[email protected]>
09:33:18 C0: ARTICLE 3094044
09:33:18 S0: 220 3094044 <[email protected]>
09:33:18 C0: ARTICLE 3094045
09:33:18 S0: 220 3094045 <[email protected]>
09:33:18 C0: ARTICLE 3094046
09:33:18 S0: 220 3094046 <[email protected]>
09:33:18 C0: ARTICLE 3094047
09:33:18 S0: 220 3094047 <[email protected]>
09:33:18 C0: ARTICLE 3094048
09:33:19 S0: 220 3094048 <[email protected]>
09:33:19 C0: ARTICLE 3094049
09:33:19 S0: 220 3094049 <[email protected]>
09:33:19 C0: ARTICLE 3094050
09:33:19 S0: 220 3094050 <[email protected]>
09:33:19 C0: ARTICLE 3094051
09:33:19 S0: 220 3094051 <[email protected]>
09:33:19 C0: ARTICLE 3094052
09:33:19 S0: 220 3094052 <[email protected]>
09:33:19 C0: ARTICLE 3094053
09:33:19 S0: 220 3094053 <[email protected]>
09:33:19 C0: ARTICLE 3094054
09:33:19 S0: 220 3094054 <[email protected]>
09:33:19 C0: ARTICLE 3094055
09:33:19 S0: 220 3094055 <[email protected]>
09:33:20 C0: ARTICLE 3094056
09:33:20 S0: 220 3094056 <108q0ah$1f9tr$[email protected]>
09:33:45 Server #0: news.easynews.com
09:33:45 S0: 200 news.easynews.com Welcome!
09:33:45 C0: AUTHINFO USER anim8rfsk
09:33:45 S0: 381 PASS required
09:33:45 C0: AUTHINFO PASS ********************
09:33:45 S0: 281 Welcome To Easynews. Account failure issues please see https://account.easynews.com (Posting Allowed)
09:33:45 C0: MODE READER
09:33:45 S0: 200 news.easynews.com Welcome! (Posting Allowed)
09:33:45 C0: GROUP rec.arts.tv
09:33:45 S0: 211 3094055 2 3094056 rec.arts.tv
09:52:56 Server #0: news.easynews.com
09:52:56 S0: 200 news.easynews.com Welcome!
09:52:56 C0: AUTHINFO USER anim8rfsk
09:52:56 S0: 381 PASS required
09:52:56 C0: AUTHINFO PASS ********************
09:52:56 S0: 281 Welcome To Easynews. Account failure issues please see https://account.easynews.com (Posting Allowed)
09:52:56 C0: MODE READER
09:52:56 S0: 200 news.easynews.com Welcome! (Posting Allowed)
09:52:56 C0: GROUP rec.arts.tv
09:52:56 S0: 211 3094055 2 3094056 rec.arts.tv
09:52:56 C0: POST
09:52:56 S0: 340 Send Article to be Posted
09:52:57 S0: 240 Article Posted
09:52:57 C0: GROUP rec.arts.tv
09:52:57 S0: 211 3094056 2 3094057 rec.arts.tv
09:52:57 C0: POST
09:52:57 S0: 340 Send Article to be Posted
09:52:58 S0: 240 Article Posted
09:52:58 C0: GROUP rec.arts.tv
09:52:58 S0: 211 3094057 2 3094058 rec.arts.tv
09:52:58 C0: POST
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09:52:59 C0: GROUP rec.arts.tv
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09:52:59 C0: POST
09:52:59 S0: 340 Send Article to be Posted
09:53:00 S0: 240 Article Posted
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09:53:01 S0: 220 3094058 <[email protected]> 09:53:01 C0: ARTICLE 3094059
09:53:01 S0: 220 3094059 <[email protected]> 09:53:01 C0: ARTICLE 3094060
09:53:01 S0: 220 3094060 <[email protected]> 09:58:07 Server #0: news.easynews.com
09:58:07 S0: 200 news.easynews.com Welcome!
09:58:07 C0: AUTHINFO USER anim8rfsk
09:58:07 S0: 381 PASS required
09:58:07 C0: AUTHINFO PASS ********************
09:58:07 S0: 281 Welcome To Easynews. Account failure issues please see https://account.easynews.com (Posting Allowed)
09:58:07 C0: MODE READER
09:58:07 S0: 200 news.easynews.com Welcome! (Posting Allowed)
09:58:07 C0: GROUP rec.arts.tv
09:58:07 S0: 211 3094060 2 3094061 rec.arts.tv
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10:40:28 C0: AUTHINFO USER anim8rfsk
10:40:28 S0: 381 PASS required
10:40:28 C0: AUTHINFO PASS ********************
10:40:28 S0: 281 Welcome To Easynews. Account failure issues please see https://account.easynews.com (Posting Allowed)
10:40:28 C0: MODE READER
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On 8/28/25 10:28 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

It would help greatly if anim gave you a list of Message-IDs after
August 20 and then we could figure out why they aren't propogating. It doesn't have to be a complete list. I'd post the list to that newsgroup.

Either you or he could send me something in email.

If they show up on Usenet elsewhere, then we know that Easynews is still peering. A peer beteen news.eternal-september.org and Easynews may be down, if they don't peer directly.

Anim also sent me the header to his first post to the "Ping Anim" thread:


Here is a header from my first reply to the pinging ANIM thread

Re: Ping Anim
anim8rfsk <[email protected]d>
Aug 26, 2025 at 2:51 PM
Bytes: 3136
Cancel-Lock: sha1:PqjgbZ/Gg7gEEbGNCr9Nd3nvkE4=
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2025 14:51:05 -0700
From: anim8rfsk <[email protected]d>
Lines: 60
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Organization: Easynews - www.easynews.com
Path: not-for-mail
References: <108kn9g$2f8rc$[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Ping Anim
User-Agent: NewsTap/5.6.1 (iPhone/iPod Touch)
X-Complaints-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers
otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly. X-Complaints-To: [email protected]
X-Received-Bytes: 3269

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On 2025-08-28 1:12 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:

Adam,

So I've been communicating with Anim.

I think EasyNews needs to restart their server - Anim's last post to RAT
that we can see is from Aug. 20, but he's saying he's been posting the
whole time since then. That probably means that his posts are getting to
the EasyNews server, but they aren't being propagated from EasyNews.

Do you know anyone over at EasyNews you can contact to see if they can
make sure their server is fine and doesn't need to be restarted so
messages start propagating again?

Danke.

I'm glad to see that Anim is still well and his silence is due only to technical difficulties.

--
Rhino

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On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 10:12:06 -0700, "Ian J. Ball" <[email protected]d>
wrote:

Adam,

So I've been communicating with Anim.

I think EasyNews needs to restart their server - Anim's last post to RAT
that we can see is from Aug. 20, but he's saying he's been posting the
whole time since then. That probably means that his posts are getting to
the EasyNews server, but they aren't being propagated from EasyNews.

Do you know anyone over at EasyNews you can contact to see if they can
make sure their server is fine and doesn't need to be restarted so
messages start propagating again?

Danke.

Glad to see he is still doing well or well enough.

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On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 14:42:27 -0400, shawn
<[email protected]> wrote:

On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 10:12:06 -0700, "Ian J. Ball" <[email protected]d>
wrote:

Adam,

So I've been communicating with Anim.

I think EasyNews needs to restart their server - Anim's last post to RAT >>that we can see is from Aug. 20, but he's saying he's been posting the >>whole time since then. That probably means that his posts are getting to >>the EasyNews server, but they aren't being propagated from EasyNews.

Do you know anyone over at EasyNews you can contact to see if they can
make sure their server is fine and doesn't need to be restarted so
messages start propagating again?

Danke.

Glad to see he is still doing well or well enough.

Okay, this test shows that Easynews is working. I just posted through
Easynews and retrieved the message from Eternal-September. So I don't
know why Anim's posts aren't making it out into the world but it
doesn't seem to be a problem in Easynews. At least not one that I can
see.

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On 8/28/2025 11:36 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

I see the stuff you sent. Not sure what I understand from the logs, but
that Message-ID in the other followup should be helpful.

I'll work on this later.

In the meantime if anyone else is an Easynews user, let us know if you
see any of his articles subsequent to the 20th and post a followup. That would make it obvious that it's missing from eternal-september,

Also, suzeeq uses solani (which I've never been able to create an
account on) and can tell us if they received those articles after the
20th.

I checked the old read posts. Nada past 8/20, and maybe even earlier.

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On 8/28/2025 11:36 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

I see the stuff you sent. Not sure what I understand from the logs, but
that Message-ID in the other followup should be helpful.

I'll work on this later.

In the meantime if anyone else is an Easynews user, let us know if you
see any of his articles subsequent to the 20th and post a followup. That would make it obvious that it's missing from eternal-september,

Also, suzeeq uses solani (which I've never been able to create an
account on) and can tell us if they received those articles after the
20th.

I don't think I have seen anything from him since 8/20.

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On 8/28/25 11:44 AM, shawn wrote:

On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 14:42:27 -0400, shawn
<[email protected]> wrote:

On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 10:12:06 -0700, "Ian J. Ball" <[email protected]d>
wrote:

Adam,

So I've been communicating with Anim.

I think EasyNews needs to restart their server - Anim's last post to RAT >>> that we can see is from Aug. 20, but he's saying he's been posting the
whole time since then. That probably means that his posts are getting to >>> the EasyNews server, but they aren't being propagated from EasyNews.

Do you know anyone over at EasyNews you can contact to see if they can
make sure their server is fine and doesn't need to be restarted so
messages start propagating again?

Danke.

Glad to see he is still doing well or well enough.

Okay, this test shows that Easynews is working. I just posted through Easynews and retrieved the message from Eternal-September. So I don't
know why Anim's posts aren't making it out into the world but it
doesn't seem to be a problem in Easynews. At least not one that I can
see.

I'll let him know. He's using NewsTap (for iOS) which could be the
issue. But I am of no real help with NewsTap support - I need a usenet
app that works on a laptop/desktop.

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On 8/28/25 11:51 AM, suzeeq wrote:

On 8/28/2025 11:36 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

I see the stuff you sent. Not sure what I understand from the logs, but
that Message-ID in the other followup should be helpful.

I'll work on this later.

In the meantime if anyone else is an Easynews user, let us know if you
see any of his articles subsequent to the 20th and post a followup. That
would make it obvious that it's missing from eternal-september,

Also, suzeeq uses solani (which I've never been able to create an
account on) and can tell us if they received those articles after the
20th.

I don't think I have seen anything from him since 8/20.

It's weird that shawn seems to be able to post fine from EasyNews, but
none of Anim's posts have shown up for a week.

I'm at a loss to explain this, esp. because Anim's posts look to have
valid message ID's.

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On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 11:57:41 -0700, "Ian J. Ball" <[email protected]d>
wrote:

On 8/28/25 11:51 AM, suzeeq wrote:

On 8/28/2025 11:36 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

I see the stuff you sent. Not sure what I understand from the logs, but
that Message-ID in the other followup should be helpful.

I'll work on this later.

In the meantime if anyone else is an Easynews user, let us know if you
see any of his articles subsequent to the 20th and post a followup. That >>> would make it obvious that it's missing from eternal-september,

Also, suzeeq uses solani (which I've never been able to create an
account on) and can tell us if they received those articles after the
20th.

I don't think I have seen anything from him since 8/20.

It's weird that shawn seems to be able to post fine from EasyNews, but
none of Anim's posts have shown up for a week.

I'm at a loss to explain this, esp. because Anim's posts look to have
valid message ID's.

The only thing that stood out to me while glancing through his logs
was that he is using some special characters in different parts of the
header like the date. That may be fine, but it stood out as odd to
have special character after the date.

Like Ian I have no experience with Newstap so no idea what might
cause Easynews to apparently accept the post and then junk it. It
suggests to me that his posts are somehow getting filtered out by the
EN servers.

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Ian J. Ball <[email protected]d> wrote:

On 8/28/25 11:44 AM, shawn wrote:

On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 14:42:27 -0400, shawn
<[email protected]> wrote:

On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 10:12:06 -0700, "Ian J. Ball" <[email protected]d>
wrote:

Adam,

So I've been communicating with Anim.

I think EasyNews needs to restart their server - Anim's last post to RAT >>>> that we can see is from Aug. 20, but he's saying he's been posting the >>>> whole time since then. That probably means that his posts are getting to >>>> the EasyNews server, but they aren't being propagated from EasyNews.

Do you know anyone over at EasyNews you can contact to see if they can >>>> make sure their server is fine and doesn't need to be restarted so
messages start propagating again?

Danke.

Glad to see he is still doing well or well enough.

Okay, this test shows that Easynews is working. I just posted through
Easynews and retrieved the message from Eternal-September. So I don't
know why Anim's posts aren't making it out into the world but it
doesn't seem to be a problem in Easynews. At least not one that I can
see.

I'll let him know. He's using NewsTap (for iOS) which could be the
issue. But I am of no real help with NewsTap support - I need a usenet
app that works on a laptop/desktop.

This response is via NewsTap and GigaNews. Let's see if it shows up.

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On Aug 28, 2025 at 11:36:35 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <[email protected]>
wrote:

I see the stuff you sent. Not sure what I understand from the logs, but
that Message-ID in the other followup should be helpful.

I'll work on this later.

In the meantime if anyone else is an Easynews user, let us know if you
see any of his articles subsequent to the 20th and post a followup. That would make it obvious that it's missing from eternal-september,

Also, suzeeq uses solani (which I've never been able to create an
account on) and can tell us if they received those articles after the
20th.

I just loaded new messages in RAT on my iPhone using NewsTap newsreader and GigaNews as the news server and these two posts from Anim8r showed up from August 28th:

https://ibb.co/bMYbxRN4
https://ibb.co/nMcLJJMk

Those are the only two I could find since August 20th.

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I see the stuff you sent. Not sure what I understand from the logs, but
that Message-ID in the other followup should be helpful.

I'll work on this later.

In the meantime if anyone else is an Easynews user, let us know if you
see any of his articles subsequent to the 20th and post a followup. That
would make it obvious that it's missing from eternal-september,

Also, suzeeq uses solani (which I've never been able to create an
account on) and can tell us if they received those articles after the
20th.

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On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 19:10:26 +0000, BTR1701 <[email protected]d>
wrote:

Ian J. Ball <[email protected]d> wrote:

On 8/28/25 11:44 AM, shawn wrote:

On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 14:42:27 -0400, shawn
<[email protected]> wrote:

On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 10:12:06 -0700, "Ian J. Ball" <[email protected]d> >>>> wrote:

Adam,

So I've been communicating with Anim.

I think EasyNews needs to restart their server - Anim's last post to RAT >>>>> that we can see is from Aug. 20, but he's saying he's been posting the >>>>> whole time since then. That probably means that his posts are getting to >>>>> the EasyNews server, but they aren't being propagated from EasyNews. >>>>>
Do you know anyone over at EasyNews you can contact to see if they can >>>>> make sure their server is fine and doesn't need to be restarted so
messages start propagating again?

Danke.

Glad to see he is still doing well or well enough.

Okay, this test shows that Easynews is working. I just posted through
Easynews and retrieved the message from Eternal-September. So I don't
know why Anim's posts aren't making it out into the world but it
doesn't seem to be a problem in Easynews. At least not one that I can
see.

I'll let him know. He's using NewsTap (for iOS) which could be the
issue. But I am of no real help with NewsTap support - I need a usenet
app that works on a laptop/desktop.

This response is via NewsTap and GigaNews. Let's see if it shows up.

That made it thru with no issues.

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On 8/28/25 12:12 PM, shawn wrote:

On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 11:57:41 -0700, "Ian J. Ball" <[email protected]d>
wrote:

On 8/28/25 11:51 AM, suzeeq wrote:

On 8/28/2025 11:36 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

I see the stuff you sent. Not sure what I understand from the logs, but >>>> that Message-ID in the other followup should be helpful.

I'll work on this later.

In the meantime if anyone else is an Easynews user, let us know if you >>>> see any of his articles subsequent to the 20th and post a followup. That >>>> would make it obvious that it's missing from eternal-september,

Also, suzeeq uses solani (which I've never been able to create an
account on) and can tell us if they received those articles after the
20th.

I don't think I have seen anything from him since 8/20.

It's weird that shawn seems to be able to post fine from EasyNews, but
none of Anim's posts have shown up for a week.

I'm at a loss to explain this, esp. because Anim's posts look to have
valid message ID's.

The only thing that stood out to me while glancing through his logs
was that he is using some special characters in different parts of the
header like the date. That may be fine, but it stood out as odd to
have special character after the date.

Like Ian I have no experience with Newstap so no idea what might
cause Easynews to apparently accept the post and then junk it. It
suggests to me that his posts are somehow getting filtered out by the
EN servers.

I hadn't considered that Anim's posts are getting out, but getting
filtered out by ES.

But I feel like it's not just ES readers who don't see his posts since
08/20.

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On 8/28/25 10:28 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

Ian J. Ball <[email protected]d> wrote:

Adam,

So I've been communicating with Anim.

I think EasyNews needs to restart their server - Anim's last post to RAT
that we can see is from Aug. 20, but he's saying he's been posting the
whole time since then. That probably means that his posts are getting to
the EasyNews server, but they aren't being propagated from EasyNews.

Do you know anyone over at EasyNews you can contact to see if they can
make sure their server is fine and doesn't need to be restarted so
messages start propagating again?

Danke.

I've had no correspondence with them, sorry,

The best way to handle this is posting to eternal-september.support
since a number of News administrators read it and follow issues raised
in it.

It would help greatly if anim gave you a list of Message-IDs after
August 20 and then we could figure out why they aren't propogating. It doesn't have to be a complete list. I'd post the list to that newsgroup.

Anim thanks you Adam - he realized something was up after you made him
look through the logs. O:)

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On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 18:36:35 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
<[email protected]> wrote:

I see the stuff you sent. Not sure what I understand from the logs, but
that Message-ID in the other followup should be helpful.

I'll work on this later.

In the meantime if anyone else is an Easynews user, let us know if you
see any of his articles subsequent to the 20th and post a followup. That >would make it obvious that it's missing from eternal-september,

Also, suzeeq uses solani (which I've never been able to create an
account on) and can tell us if they received those articles after the
20th.

Wish I had been home when you posted that (I was 2500 miles away
celebrating a family birthday) as I AM an EasyNews user and had
wondered.

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shawn <[email protected]> wrote:

The only thing that stood out to me while glancing through his logs
was that he is using some special characters in different parts of the
header like the date. That may be fine, but it stood out as odd to
have special character after the date.

I saw that. The special character was a non-breaking space that some applications use to keep portions of the date or time stamp on the
same line. That's not a proto article header being logged.

In the logged entry of the Date header, it's in standard syntax.

. . .

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Ian J. Ball <[email protected]d> wrote:

NewsTap Log

I read through the log. The Message-IDs are articles that he read. When
it said that Easynews accepted an article, NewsTap didn't have its
Message-ID as that's created at the server and there's nothing for the newsreader to log. I don't find anything in here to log.

09:33:02 Server #0: news.easynews.com
09:33:03 S0: 200 news.easynews.com Welcome!
09:33:03 C0: AUTHINFO USER anim8rfsk
09:33:03 S0: 381 PASS required
09:33:03 C0: AUTHINFO PASS ********************
09:33:03 S0: 281 Welcome To Easynews. Account failure issues please see >https://account.easynews.com (Posting Allowed)
09:33:03 C0: MODE READER
09:33:03 S0: 200 news.easynews.com Welcome! (Posting Allowed)
09:33:03 C0: GROUP rec.arts.tv
09:33:03 S0: 211 3094055 2 3094056 rec.arts.tv
09:33:03 C0: ARTICLE 3093934
09:33:03 S0: 220 3093934 <[email protected]>

This is an article he read. The user's newsreader was Agent, which you
can tell by the 4ax.com domain.

09:52:56 Server #0: news.easynews.com
09:52:56 S0: 200 news.easynews.com Welcome!
09:52:56 C0: AUTHINFO USER anim8rfsk
09:52:56 S0: 381 PASS required
09:52:56 C0: AUTHINFO PASS ********************
09:52:56 S0: 281 Welcome To Easynews. Account failure issues please see >https://account.easynews.com (Posting Allowed)
09:52:56 C0: MODE READER
09:52:56 S0: 200 news.easynews.com Welcome! (Posting Allowed)
09:52:56 C0: GROUP rec.arts.tv
09:52:56 S0: 211 3094055 2 3094056 rec.arts.tv
09:52:56 C0: POST
09:52:56 S0: 340 Send Article to be Posted
09:52:57 S0: 240 Article Posted
09:52:57 C0: GROUP rec.arts.tv
09:52:57 S0: 211 3094056 2 3094057 rec.arts.tv
09:52:57 C0: POST
09:52:57 S0: 340 Send Article to be Posted
09:52:58 S0: 240 Article Posted
09:52:58 C0: GROUP rec.arts.tv
09:52:58 S0: 211 3094057 2 3094058 rec.arts.tv
09:52:58 C0: POST
09:52:58 S0: 340 Send Article to be Posted
09:52:59 S0: 240 Article Posted
09:52:59 C0: GROUP rec.arts.tv
09:52:59 S0: 211 3094058 2 3094059 rec.arts.tv
09:52:59 C0: POST
09:52:59 S0: 340 Send Article to be Posted
09:53:00 S0: 240 Article Posted

Here, the log notes a number of successfully posted articles but,
again, NewsTap has not been told what Message-IDs were assigned by the
server.

The point is that NewsTap logged that the articles were injected, not
rejected.

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Ian J. Ball <[email protected]d> wrote:

Anim also sent me the header to his first post to the "Ping Anim" thread:

Ok. I saw his followups quoting his own articles that weren't on news.eternal-september.org, the Message-ID in this entry, and a followup
from Ubi at Giganews to one of his missing articles allowing me to grab Message-IDs from the Reference header.

I posted them in an article in eternal-september.support which is read
by various News administrators. We'll see if any can find these
Message-IDs in their logs.

I'm glad it's working for him now but I'm confused as to what happened.
How did Ubi see the one article, but H.G. (an Easynews user) saw none of
his articles during the 8 days in question?

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Ian J. Ball <[email protected]d> wrote:

Anim also sent me the header to his first post to the "Ping Anim" thread:

Here is a header from my first reply to the pinging ANIM thread

Re: Ping Anim
anim8rfsk <[email protected]d>
Aug 26, 2025 at 2:51 PM
Bytes: 3136
Cancel-Lock: sha1:PqjgbZ/Gg7gEEbGNCr9Nd3nvkE4=
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2025 14:51:05 -0700
From: anim8rfsk <[email protected]d>
Lines: 60
Message-Id: <[email protected]>

As I explained in the other followup, that Message-ID is in bad syntax.
The left part ends in a ".". Most servers enforce Message-ID syntax. In
his case, Easynews created the right part only. The left part was
created by his newsreader. As there was a missing setting, the left part
wasn't completed.

That should have been rejected by Easynews with an explicit error
message instead of injecting it.

Mime-Version: 1.0
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Organization: Easynews - www.easynews.com
Path: not-for-mail
References: <108kn9g$2f8rc$[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Ping Anim
User-Agent: NewsTap/5.6.1 (iPhone/iPod Touch)
X-Complaints-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers
otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly. >X-Complaints-To: [email protected]
X-Received-Bytes: 3269

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Adam H. Kerman <[email protected]> wrote:

Ian J. Ball <[email protected]d> wrote:

Anim also sent me the header to his first post to the "Ping Anim" thread:

Ok. I saw his followups quoting his own articles that weren't on >news.eternal-september.org, the Message-ID in this entry, and a followup
from Ubi at Giganews to one of his missing articles allowing me to grab >Message-IDs from the Reference header.

I posted them in an article in eternal-september.support which is read
by various News administrators. We'll see if any can find these
Message-IDs in their logs.

I'm glad it's working for him now but I'm confused as to what happened.
How did Ubi see the one article, but H.G. (an Easynews user) saw none of
his articles during the 8 days in question?

Sigh.

I apologize. I should have spotted the issue immediately when I looked
at those Message-IDs. On Usenet, Message-ID uniqueness is critical;
syntax must be followed. If the newsreader hasn't assigned Message-ID in
the proto article, then the News server must assign it in order to
inject the article.

Since the right part of the Message-ID was news.easynews.com, I assumed incorrectly that the News server had assigned the left part as well. It
turns out it was set in the newsreader and there was a misconfiguration,

The left part of the Message-ID MUST NOT end in
a ".". In the four I found, the left part was ending in a period.

Easynews should have rejected those and provided an explicit error
message to explain the problem. Instead, it injected the articles. Most
News servers they peered with rejected the articles for nonstandard
Message-ID syntax but obviously a handful allowed nonstandard Message-ID syntax.

After missing information was put in his newsreader, his articles had
standard Message-IDs, like this one.

Message-ID:
<[email protected]>

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