• Spin Cycle: Trump Met With Putin, So That Can't Be Good. No, Seriously,

    From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 18 04:30:47 2025
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    President Donald Trump met with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Alaska on Friday � in the hopes of bringing about an eventual peace agreement between Russia and Ukraine after three years of war � and the media talking heads, apparently, are having none of it.

    For those who don�t spend their Sunday mornings glued to the television � and their Sunday afternoons attempting to dig through a week�s worth of network
    and cable news media spin � The Daily Wire has compiled a short summary of
    what you may have missed.

    Of course, just 48 hours after the much-touted meeting between Trump and
    Putin, the conversations across the Sunday political talk shows were focused
    on Russia � but rather than allow Trump an ounce of grace for bringing Putin
    to the table, they poked and prodded at the whole scenario, looking for fault wherever they could find it.

    On ABC�s �This Week,� host Martha Raddatz attempted to put Secretary of State Marco Rubio on the defensive, asking him to respond to critics who claim he�d put Putin on the �world stage� by meeting him on the �red carpet� in Alaska.

    Rubio pointed out the obvious � that Trump�s critics were always going to
    find something to complain about � and then argued that Putin, after waging
    war against Ukraine for three years, was already on the world stage.

    When asked about Pres. Trump facing criticism for his warm welcome
    of Russian Pres. Putin, Sec. Rubio said, �Critics of President
    Trump are always going to find something to criticize � I will tell
    you this, Putin is already on the world stage.�
    https://t.co/lDUBzfFcsj pic.twitter.com/y2C2vrxoSG

    � This Week (@ThisWeekABC) August 17, 2025

    Raddatz then asked Rubio what concessions Trump was able to get from Putin during their face-to-face meeting, prompting the Secretary of State to tell
    her abruptly that he would not be revealing any such concessions on her show.

    �As much as everyone would love it to be a live, pay-per-view event, these discussions only work best when they are conducted privately in serious negotiations,� he said.

    When asked by @MarthaRaddatz what concessions were asked of
    Russia�s Putin, Sec. Rubio said, �As much as everyone would
    love it to be a live, pay-per-view event, these discussions
    only work best when they are conducted privately in serious
    negotiations.� https://t.co/wTfrXhFP2T pic.twitter.com/S9yNsJYnad

    � This Week (@ThisWeekABC) August 17, 2025

    Jake Sullivan, who served as National Security Adviser under former President Joe Biden, claimed that Russia was using the negotiations in order to get
    land concessions that they could not obtain on the battlefield, and suggested that Trump was blind to Putin�s efforts to use him.

    Putin, he told Raddatz, �is just trying to take us all for a ride, to keep
    this war going, keep attacking Ukraine without facing additional pressure.�

    Biden national security adviser Jake Sullivan said that he hopes
    Pres. Trump will see in hindsight that Russian Pres. Putin �is
    just trying to take us all for a ride, to keep this war going,
    keep attacking Ukraine without facing additional pressure.�
    https://t.co/BS3Y0qa5Ab pic.twitter.com/wOok5WMc38

    � This Week (@ThisWeekABC) August 17, 2025

    NPR�s Mary Louise Kelly claimed that Trump�s refusal to take questions could
    be taken as proof that the meeting was a failure, saying, �Donald Trump loves to take questions � When we saw Trump�s choosing to take no questions whatsoever, not even trying to claim a win, I think what was left unsaid was much more striking than what was said.�

    �Donald Trump loves to take questions�When we saw Trump�s choosing
    to take no questions whatsoever, not even trying to claim a win, I
    think what was left unsaid was much more striking than what was
    said,� NPR�s Mary Louise Kelly said of the Putin summit.
    https://t.co/c4WucVqaCH pic.twitter.com/QIxfdBQt9x

    � This Week (@ThisWeekABC) August 17, 2025

    Senator Chris Van Hollen (D-MD) also spoke with Raddatz about the summit, and also claimed that Trump�s gamble had failed: �There�s no sugar coating this � Donald Trump, once again, got played by Vladimir Putin. Vladimir Putin got
    the red carpet treatment on American soil. But we got no ceasefire, no
    imminent meeting between Putin and Zelenskyy.�

    �There�s no sugar coating this � Donald Trump, once again, got
    played by Vladimir Putin. Vladimir Putin got the red carpet
    treatment on American soil. But we got no ceasefire, no imminent
    meeting between Putin and Zelenskyy,� Sen. Chris Van Hollen said.
    https://t.co/UzUy5XK2Gr pic.twitter.com/yxdz9tZQ8w

    � This Week (@ThisWeekABC) August 17, 2025

    On CBS News� �Face the Nation,� the tone was very much the same. Rep. Jason Crow (D-CO) sat down with host Margaret Brennan, and he referred to the
    meeting as a �historic embarrassment.�

    �Vladimir Putin does not care about the amount of time that we�re allocating, does not care about a B-2 bomber flyover, does not care about a lineup of F-
    22 fighters rolled out, he doesn�t care about any of that,� Crow claimed, arguing that Putin would only respond to more sanctions and military defeat.

    The summit between President Trump and Russian President Vladimir
    Putin in Alaska was a �historic embarrassment� for the U.S., Rep.
    Jason Crow (D-CO) says.

    �Vladimir Putin does not care about the amount of time that we�re
    allocating, does not care about a B-2 bomber flyover,�
    pic.twitter.com/aIatCNbWQi

    � Face The Nation (@FaceTheNation) August 17, 2025

    Brennan also spoke with Fiona Hill, a Russia expert who notably testified against Trump in his first impeachment, who claimed that Trump had brought
    out the B2 stealth bombers not as a show of force but a show of deference to Putin.

    The flyover, she said, �looked much more like a show of appreciation for Vladimir Putin� than a show meant to intimidate him.

    The B-2 bomber flyover and lineup of fighter jets during Russian
    President Vladimir Putin�s arrival to Alaska �looked much more like
    a show of appreciation for Vladimir Putin� than a show of force by
    the U.S., Russian expert Fiona Hill says.

    The optics of Friday�s summit were� pic.twitter.com/yvBBKIRAOo

    � Face The Nation (@FaceTheNation) August 17, 2025

    On NBC�s �Meet the Press,� host Kristen Welker brought in Senator Chris
    Murphy (D-CT), who took much the same position as Crow and called the summit
    a �disaster� and an �embarrassment for the United States.�

    Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.) tells Meet the Press that President
    Trump�s meeting with Russian President Putin in Alaska was a
    �disaster� and an �embarrassment for the United States.�
    https://t.co/QC9TKvZ5hW pic.twitter.com/1qBng7t48y

    � Meet the Press (@MeetThePress) August 17, 2025

    Trump spent the day on Sunday alternately touting the success of the summit
    and lashing out at media for attempting to cast doubt on his efforts.

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 31 17:44:21 2025
    On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 04:30:47 -0400, Ubiquitous <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On ABC�s �This Week,� host Martha Raddatz attempted to put Secretary of State >Marco Rubio on the defensive, asking him to respond to critics who claim he�d >put Putin on the �world stage� by meeting him on the �red carpet� in Alaska.

    I think many of us would be happy to have Putin in Alaska permanently, preferably as far north as possible.

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to The Horny Goat on Sun Aug 31 21:53:47 2025
    On 2025-08-31 8:44 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 04:30:47 -0400, Ubiquitous <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On ABC’s “This Week,” host Martha Raddatz attempted to put Secretary of State
    Marco Rubio on the defensive, asking him to respond to critics who claim he’d
    put Putin on the “world stage” by meeting him on the “red carpet” in Alaska.

    I think many of us would be happy to have Putin in Alaska permanently, preferably as far north as possible.

    I've seen several videos recently where experts are saying the Russian
    economy is in dire shape; one video even asserted that the FSB and the
    military generals are in near-open warfare because Putin is going down
    and they're jockeying for position to be the next leader. If all this is
    true - and there's a lot of evidence for major economic issues - Putin
    may be gone very soon.

    I'm going to be very surprised if they just allow him to retire quietly
    and enjoy the billions he plundered from the economy. I'm expecting a
    very *sudden* end to the man.

    --
    Rhino

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