• What Did You Watch? 2025-08-07 (Thursday)

    From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 8 04:30:41 2025
    After an arduous workout and continuing cable oujtage, I watched:

    Nothing.

    What did you watch?

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Fri Aug 8 06:25:26 2025
    Ubiquitous <[email protected]> wrote:
    After an arduous workout and continuing cable oujtage, I watched:

    Nothing.

    What did you watch?

    Hey, thanks for asking!

    I have sporadic cable connection these days and I’m using it to empty off
    the DVR. I’m down to 3%!

    I had a lot of movies from TCM and some various specialty stuff.

    The Last of Sheila. From TCM, I deleted it because I have a copy elsewhere.

    The single greatest episode of Fantasy Island ever made with Maren Jensen
    as Annette Funicello’s super hot to trot ventriloquist’s dummy come to life who has sex with Annette’s boyfriend, knowing that Annette can feel everything that happens. I’m not entirely sure what Annette is complaining about.

    The Colossus of Rhodes, from TCM, sword and sandals that just was boring,
    and I dumped it halfway through

    The Last Voyage, from TCM. Precursor to The Poseidon Adventure. These guys
    got an actual ocean liner that was going to be scuttled and scuttled it themselves for the movie where everybody runs around in a homemade low rent Titanic episode. The big problem here is Robert Stack, who I like in the
    right thing, but is way too wooden to be the star of something like this.
    Also his daughter is played by this horrid little girl who they’ve got
    doing a cross between Shirley Temple and little orphan Annie. I looked to
    see if she had been in anything else and she quit acting and became a
    stripper and died young.

    Hercules, Sampson, and Ulysses. A bunch of Italian muscle men running
    around being dubbed in English.

    Mystery Island 2 Electric Boogaloo (this time it’s personal). This was boring and hard to follow and so low energy, it was painful. I don’t think Simmons (or was she Fitz?) ever raised her arms once. All these people just stand there like they’ve been half deflated reading lines that vary from baffling to laughable; in a couple weeks we get mystery island three!

    Quo Vadis. A great cast about the advent of Christianity as Nero Burns
    Rome. Another one of these historical movies where once you realize that nothing like this ever happened it makes it harder to get through.

    Julius Caesar. An absolutely amazing cast in a Shakespeare adaptation where everybody is talking in a way nobody ever talked, and it makes it really
    hard to slog through it.




    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

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  • From Ian J. Ball@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Fri Aug 8 06:59:55 2025
    On 8/8/25 1:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:

    What did you watch?

    My morning is booked. I'll probably have to do a second-half-of-week
    catch-up tomorrow.

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Aug 8 13:04:24 2025
    [email protected] wrote:
    Ubiquitous <[email protected]> wrote:

    After an arduous workout and continuing cable oujtage, I watched:

    Nothing.

    What did you watch?

    Hey, thanks for asking!

    The single greatest episode of Fantasy Island ever made with Maren Jensen
    as Annette Funicello's super hot-to-trot ventriloquist's dummy come to life >who has sex with Annette's boyfriend, knowing that Annette can feel >everything that happens. I'm not entirely sure what Annette is complaining >about.

    Hey, it's her fantasy, but I expect there was a twist, like her dummy doing anal sex or some extreme S&M sex.

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Fri Aug 8 20:27:09 2025
    Ubiquitous <[email protected]> wrote:
    [email protected] wrote:
    Ubiquitous <[email protected]> wrote:

    After an arduous workout and continuing cable oujtage, I watched:

    Nothing.

    What did you watch?

    Hey, thanks for asking!

    The single greatest episode of Fantasy Island ever made with Maren Jensen
    as Annette Funicello's super hot-to-trot ventriloquist's dummy come to life >> who has sex with Annette's boyfriend, knowing that Annette can feel
    everything that happens. I'm not entirely sure what Annette is complaining >> about.

    Hey, it's her fantasy, but I expect there was a twist, like her dummy doing anal sex or some extreme S&M sex.

    No, Annette was just jealous so they killed Maren Jensen and Annette went
    back to her cheating boyfriend. There’s just no way to make that sound like
    a happy ending.


    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Aug 9 03:38:13 2025
    [email protected] wrote:
    Ubiquitous <[email protected]> wrote:
    [email protected] wrote:
    Ubiquitous <[email protected]> wrote:

    After an arduous workout and continuing cable oujtage, I watched:

    Nothing.

    What did you watch?

    Hey, thanks for asking!

    The single greatest episode of Fantasy Island ever made with Maren Jensen >>> as Annette Funicello's super hot-to-trot ventriloquist's dummy come to
    life who has sex with Annette's boyfriend, knowing that Annette can feel >>> everything that happens. I'm not entirely sure what Annette is
    complaining about.

    Hey, it's her fantasy, but I expect there was a twist, like her dummy
    doing anal sex or some extreme S&M sex.

    No, Annette was just jealous so they killed Maren Jensen and Annette went >back to her cheating boyfriend. There's just no way to make that sound like
    a happy ending.

    Yikes!

    --
    Democrats and the liberal media hate President Trump more than they
    love this country.

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Aug 9 03:40:35 2025
    [email protected] wrote:
    Ubiquitous wrote:

    After an arduous workout and continuing cable oujtage, I watched:

    Nothing.

    The cable outage blows, but are you getting more accomplished at least?

    One would think, but not withn intermittant Internet. Comcast is sending someone over and charging me $100.

    --
    Not a joke! Don;t jump!

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  • From shawn@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Aug 9 10:54:26 2025
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 06:17:35 -0700, Melissa Hollingsworth <[email protected]> wrote:

    Verily, in article <[email protected]>, did >[email protected] deliver unto us this message:

    [email protected] wrote:
    Ubiquitous wrote:

    After an arduous workout and continuing cable oujtage, I watched:

    Nothing.

    The cable outage blows, but are you getting more accomplished at least?

    One would think, but not withn intermittant Internet. Comcast is sending
    someone over and charging me $100.

    They shouldn't be charging you to fix service they're supposed to
    provide. What's up with that?

    They always want to charge in case the problem isn't with their plant.
    That said even if it is in their plant they will try to charge you
    unless you fight back. Unless it is clearly a plant issue the CSRs
    tend to assume the problem is with the user's equipment, hence the
    charge.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to Melissa Hollingsworth on Sat Aug 9 09:06:24 2025
    Melissa Hollingsworth <[email protected]> wrote:
    Verily, in article <[email protected]>, did [email protected] deliver unto us this message:

    [email protected] wrote:
    Ubiquitous wrote:

    After an arduous workout and continuing cable oujtage, I watched:

    Nothing.

    The cable outage blows, but are you getting more accomplished at least?

    One would think, but not withn intermittant Internet. Comcast is sending
    someone over and charging me $100.

    They shouldn't be charging you to fix service they're supposed to
    provide. What's up with that?

    Cox refuses to send somebody out without charging me $75 despite the fact
    that I pay $10 a month to get free service calls.



    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Aug 9 16:55:38 2025
    On Aug 9, 2025 at 8:09:24 AM PDT, "Melissa Hollingsworth" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Verily, in article <[email protected]>, did [email protected] deliver unto us this message:

    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 06:17:35 -0700, Melissa Hollingsworth
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Verily, in article <[email protected]>, did
    [email protected] deliver unto us this message:

    [email protected] wrote:
    Ubiquitous wrote:

    After an arduous workout and continuing cable oujtage, I watched:

    Nothing.

    The cable outage blows, but are you getting more accomplished at least? >> >>
    One would think, but not withn intermittant Internet. Comcast is sending >> >> someone over and charging me $100.

    They shouldn't be charging you to fix service they're supposed to
    provide. What's up with that?

    They always want to charge in case the problem isn't with their plant.
    That said even if it is in their plant they will try to charge you
    unless you fight back. Unless it is clearly a plant issue the CSRs
    tend to assume the problem is with the user's equipment, hence the
    charge.

    That's terrible. Seems like every interaction these days has to be
    approached as a potential fight.

    Anytime I have to contact customer support about anything tech related, I tell them up front that I've already rebooted the software and the computer, and unplugged everything for 30 seconds because those are the things they're programmed to make you do because they always assume the problem is on your end. Half the time they make me do it all again because they don't believe I actually did it.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Aug 9 17:06:21 2025
    Melissa Hollingsworth <[email protected]> wrote:
    Verily, in article <[email protected]>, did >[email protected] deliver unto us this message:

    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 06:17:35 -0700, Melissa Hollingsworth
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Verily, in article <[email protected]>, did
    [email protected] deliver unto us this message:

    [email protected] wrote:
    Ubiquitous wrote:

    After an arduous workout and continuing cable oujtage, I watched:

    Nothing.

    The cable outage blows, but are you getting more accomplished at least? >> >>
    One would think, but not withn intermittant Internet. Comcast is sending >> >> someone over and charging me $100.

    They shouldn't be charging you to fix service they're supposed to
    provide. What's up with that?

    They always want to charge in case the problem isn't with their plant.
    That said even if it is in their plant they will try to charge you
    unless you fight back. Unless it is clearly a plant issue the CSRs
    tend to assume the problem is with the user's equipment, hence the
    charge.

    That's terrible. Seems like every interaction these days has to be
    approached as a potential fight.

    Have you met cable?

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  • From shawn@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 9 14:02:51 2025
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 09:06:24 -0700, anim8rfsk <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Melissa Hollingsworth <[email protected]> wrote:
    Verily, in article <[email protected]>, did
    [email protected] deliver unto us this message:

    [email protected] wrote:
    Ubiquitous wrote:

    After an arduous workout and continuing cable oujtage, I watched:

    Nothing.

    The cable outage blows, but are you getting more accomplished at least? >>>
    One would think, but not withn intermittant Internet. Comcast is sending >>> someone over and charging me $100.

    They shouldn't be charging you to fix service they're supposed to
    provide. What's up with that?

    Cox refuses to send somebody out without charging me $75 despite the fact >that I pay $10 a month to get free service calls.

    That's the craziest thing I've heard. I mean, yes it is free money for
    the company but then you have to wonder just what are you paying that
    $10 for and why do you keep paying it?

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Melissa Hollingsworth on Sat Aug 9 11:08:40 2025
    On 8/9/2025 8:09 AM, Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:
    Verily, in article <[email protected]>, did [email protected] deliver unto us this message:

    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 06:17:35 -0700, Melissa Hollingsworth
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Verily, in article <[email protected]>, did
    [email protected] deliver unto us this message:

    [email protected] wrote:
    Ubiquitous wrote:

    After an arduous workout and continuing cable oujtage, I watched:

    Nothing.

    The cable outage blows, but are you getting more accomplished at least? >>>>
    One would think, but not withn intermittant Internet. Comcast is sending >>>> someone over and charging me $100.

    They shouldn't be charging you to fix service they're supposed to
    provide. What's up with that?

    They always want to charge in case the problem isn't with their plant.
    That said even if it is in their plant they will try to charge you
    unless you fight back. Unless it is clearly a plant issue the CSRs
    tend to assume the problem is with the user's equipment, hence the
    charge.

    That's terrible. Seems like every interaction these days has to be
    approached as a potential fight.

    Welcome to unfettered capitalism.

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Sat Aug 9 18:31:19 2025
    Dimensional Traveler <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 8/9/2025 8:09 AM, Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:
    did [email protected] deliver unto us this message:

    . . .

    They always want to charge in case the problem isn't with their plant. >>>That said even if it is in their plant they will try to charge you
    unless you fight back. Unless it is clearly a plant issue the CSRs
    tend to assume the problem is with the user's equipment, hence the >>>charge.

    That's terrible. Seems like every interaction these days has to be >>approached as a potential fight.

    Welcome to unfettered capitalism.

    D.T., you throw terms like capitalist and capitalism around like
    epithets, which is no different than the term liberal being treated like
    a label of contempt that must be disrespected.

    Capitalism is an economic system in which the means of production are
    privately owned. It is a neutral term. That's all it means.

    Of course it's fettered. People are free to contract and enter into
    business transactions having reasonable expectations of both parties
    performing the contract. If one party fails to perform, that's a breech
    of contract and is enforceable in court or arbitration.

    Fraud, misrepresentation, bad customer service are separate acts that
    are not capitalism and obviously can occur in other economic systems.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Aug 9 18:37:40 2025
    Melissa Hollingsworth <[email protected]> wrote:
    Verily, in article <1077v6d$1dbll$[email protected]>, did [email protected] >deliver unto us this message:

    Melissa Hollingsworth <[email protected]> wrote:
    Verily, in article <[email protected]>, did
    [email protected] deliver unto us this message:

    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 06:17:35 -0700, Melissa Hollingsworth
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Verily, in article <[email protected]>, did >> >> >[email protected] deliver unto us this message:

    [email protected] wrote:
    Ubiquitous wrote:

    After an arduous workout and continuing cable oujtage, I watched: >> >> >> >>
    Nothing.

    The cable outage blows, but are you getting more accomplished at least?

    One would think, but not withn intermittant Internet. Comcast is >sending
    someone over and charging me $100.

    They shouldn't be charging you to fix service they're supposed to
    provide. What's up with that?

    They always want to charge in case the problem isn't with their plant.
    That said even if it is in their plant they will try to charge you
    unless you fight back. Unless it is clearly a plant issue the CSRs
    tend to assume the problem is with the user's equipment, hence the
    charge.

    That's terrible. Seems like every interaction these days has to be
    approached as a potential fight.

    Have you met cable?

    I haven't had cable TV in years. I rely on streaming.

    How do you receive internet?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to shawn on Sat Aug 9 11:43:06 2025
    shawn <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 09:06:24 -0700, anim8rfsk <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Melissa Hollingsworth <[email protected]> wrote:
    Verily, in article <[email protected]>, did
    [email protected] deliver unto us this message:

    [email protected] wrote:
    Ubiquitous wrote:

    After an arduous workout and continuing cable oujtage, I watched:

    Nothing.

    The cable outage blows, but are you getting more accomplished at least? >>>>
    One would think, but not withn intermittant Internet. Comcast is sending >>>> someone over and charging me $100.

    They shouldn't be charging you to fix service they're supposed to
    provide. What's up with that?

    Cox refuses to send somebody out without charging me $75 despite the fact
    that I pay $10 a month to get free service calls.

    That's the craziest thing I've heard. I mean, yes it is free money for
    the company but then you have to wonder just what are you paying that
    $10 for and why do you keep paying it?


    Because they won’t let you cancel it

    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Aug 9 18:52:50 2025
    shawn <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 11:43:06 -0700, anim8rfsk <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    shawn <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 09:06:24 -0700, anim8rfsk <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Melissa Hollingsworth <[email protected]> wrote:
    Verily, in article <[email protected]>, did >>>>> [email protected] deliver unto us this message:

    [email protected] wrote:
    Ubiquitous wrote:

    After an arduous workout and continuing cable oujtage, I watched: >>>>>>>>
    Nothing.

    The cable outage blows, but are you getting more accomplished at least? >>>>>>
    One would think, but not withn intermittant Internet. Comcast is sending >>>>>> someone over and charging me $100.

    They shouldn't be charging you to fix service they're supposed to
    provide. What's up with that?

    Cox refuses to send somebody out without charging me $75 despite the fact >>>> that I pay $10 a month to get free service calls.

    That's the craziest thing I've heard. I mean, yes it is free money for
    the company but then you have to wonder just what are you paying that
    $10 for and why do you keep paying it?


    Because they won’t let you cancel it

    There is nothing you shouldn't be able to cancel if it is an extra
    service.

    Have you met cable?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From shawn@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 9 14:45:12 2025
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 11:43:06 -0700, anim8rfsk <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    shawn <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 09:06:24 -0700, anim8rfsk <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Melissa Hollingsworth <[email protected]> wrote:
    Verily, in article <[email protected]>, did >>>> [email protected] deliver unto us this message:

    [email protected] wrote:
    Ubiquitous wrote:

    After an arduous workout and continuing cable oujtage, I watched: >>>>>>>
    Nothing.

    The cable outage blows, but are you getting more accomplished at least? >>>>>
    One would think, but not withn intermittant Internet. Comcast is sending >>>>> someone over and charging me $100.

    They shouldn't be charging you to fix service they're supposed to
    provide. What's up with that?

    Cox refuses to send somebody out without charging me $75 despite the fact >>> that I pay $10 a month to get free service calls.

    That's the craziest thing I've heard. I mean, yes it is free money for
    the company but then you have to wonder just what are you paying that
    $10 for and why do you keep paying it?


    Because they won’t let you cancel it

    There is nothing you shouldn't be able to cancel if it is an extra
    service.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Melissa Hollingsworth on Sat Aug 9 20:27:37 2025
    Melissa Hollingsworth <[email protected]> wrote:
    did [email protected] deliver unto us this message:
    Melissa Hollingsworth <[email protected]> wrote:
    [email protected] deliver unto us this message:

    Have you met cable?

    I haven't had cable TV in years. I rely on streaming.

    How do you receive internet?

    I have cable Internet, but nothing has gone wrong with it in yonks. I
    guess we have good providers in the Pacific Northwest.

    No cable subscriber has ever had a good experience dealing with the call center.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Sat Aug 9 20:41:30 2025
    On Aug 9, 2025 at 1:27:37 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Melissa Hollingsworth <[email protected]> wrote:
    did [email protected] deliver unto us this message:
    Melissa Hollingsworth <[email protected]> wrote:
    [email protected] deliver unto us this message:

    Have you met cable?

    I haven't had cable TV in years. I rely on streaming.

    How do you receive internet?

    I have cable Internet, but nothing has gone wrong with it in yonks. I
    guess we have good providers in the Pacific Northwest.

    No cable subscriber has ever had a good experience dealing with the call center.

    An oldie but a goodie and always deserves a repost:

    The First Honest Cable Company


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ilMx7k7mso&pp=ygUUaG9uZXN0IGNhYmxlIGNvbXBhbnk%3D


    They also did one for net neutrality:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JucFpDhuF98&pp=ygUUaG9uZXN0IGNhYmxlIGNvbXBhbnk%3D


    SOUTH PARK did a good bit on the local cable company, too


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbHqUNl8YFk&pp=ygUUaG9uZXN0IGNhYmxlIGNvbXBhbnk%3D

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Sat Aug 9 15:04:55 2025
    On 8/9/2025 11:31 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 8/9/2025 8:09 AM, Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:
    did [email protected] deliver unto us this message:

    . . .

    They always want to charge in case the problem isn't with their plant. >>>> That said even if it is in their plant they will try to charge you
    unless you fight back. Unless it is clearly a plant issue the CSRs
    tend to assume the problem is with the user's equipment, hence the
    charge.

    That's terrible. Seems like every interaction these days has to be
    approached as a potential fight.

    Welcome to unfettered capitalism.

    D.T., you throw terms like capitalist and capitalism around like
    epithets, which is no different than the term liberal being treated like
    a label of contempt that must be disrespected.

    Capitalism is an economic system in which the means of production are privately owned. It is a neutral term. That's all it means.

    Of course it's fettered. People are free to contract and enter into
    business transactions having reasonable expectations of both parties performing the contract. If one party fails to perform, that's a breech
    of contract and is enforceable in court or arbitration.

    Except in the US it is becoming less and less enforceable because the
    laws to enforce it are being stripped away.


    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Sat Aug 9 23:06:03 2025
    Dimensional Traveler <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 8/9/2025 11:31 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 8/9/2025 8:09 AM, Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:
    did [email protected] deliver unto us this message:

    . . .

    They always want to charge in case the problem isn't with their plant. >>>>>That said even if it is in their plant they will try to charge you >>>>>unless you fight back. Unless it is clearly a plant issue the CSRs >>>>>tend to assume the problem is with the user's equipment, hence the >>>>>charge.

    That's terrible. Seems like every interaction these days has to be >>>>approached as a potential fight.

    Welcome to unfettered capitalism.

    D.T., you throw terms like capitalist and capitalism around like
    epithets, which is no different than the term liberal being treated like
    a label of contempt that must be disrespected.

    Capitalism is an economic system in which the means of production are >>privately owned. It is a neutral term. That's all it means.

    Of course it's fettered. People are free to contract and enter into >>business transactions having reasonable expectations of both parties >>performing the contract. If one party fails to perform, that's a breech
    of contract and is enforceable in court or arbitration.

    Except in the US it is becoming less and less enforceable because the
    laws to enforce it are being stripped away.

    It turns out, with arbitration, you can choose your own and don't have
    to go with the company's.

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  • From shawn@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Aug 9 19:15:08 2025
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 18:52:50 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    shawn <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 11:43:06 -0700, anim8rfsk <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    shawn <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 09:06:24 -0700, anim8rfsk <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Melissa Hollingsworth <[email protected]> wrote:
    Verily, in article <[email protected]>, did >>>>>> [email protected] deliver unto us this message:

    [email protected] wrote:
    Ubiquitous wrote:

    After an arduous workout and continuing cable oujtage, I watched: >>>>>>>>>
    Nothing.

    The cable outage blows, but are you getting more accomplished at least?

    One would think, but not withn intermittant Internet. Comcast is sending
    someone over and charging me $100.

    They shouldn't be charging you to fix service they're supposed to
    provide. What's up with that?

    Cox refuses to send somebody out without charging me $75 despite the fact >>>>> that I pay $10 a month to get free service calls.

    That's the craziest thing I've heard. I mean, yes it is free money for >>>> the company but then you have to wonder just what are you paying that
    $10 for and why do you keep paying it?


    Because they won’t let you cancel it

    There is nothing you shouldn't be able to cancel if it is an extra
    service.

    Have you met cable?

    Oh I understand. I'm just saying how it SHOULD work. Seems like you
    might be able to talk to your local public utility commission.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Aug 9 23:57:15 2025
    BTR1701 <[email protected]> wrote:

    An oldie but a goodie and always deserves a repost:

    The First Honest Cable Company

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ilMx7k7mso&pp=ygUUaG9uZXN0IGNhYmxlIGNvbXBhbnk%3D

    They also did one for net neutrality:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JucFpDhuF98&pp=ygUUaG9uZXN0IGNhYmxlIGNvbXBhbnk%3D

    "We want more money."

    SOUTH PARK did a good bit on the local cable company, too

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbHqUNl8YFk&pp=ygUUaG9uZXN0IGNhYmxlIGNvbXBhbnk%3D

    These are wonderful.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Aug 9 23:18:33 2025
    shawn <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 18:52:50 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    shawn <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 11:43:06 -0700, anim8rfsk <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    shawn <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 09:06:24 -0700, anim8rfsk <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Melissa Hollingsworth <[email protected]> wrote:
    Verily, in article <[email protected]>, did >>>>>>> [email protected] deliver unto us this message:

    [email protected] wrote:
    Ubiquitous wrote:

    After an arduous workout and continuing cable oujtage, I watched: >>>>>>>>>>
    Nothing.

    The cable outage blows, but are you getting more accomplished at least?

    One would think, but not withn intermittant Internet. Comcast is >sending
    someone over and charging me $100.

    They shouldn't be charging you to fix service they're supposed to >>>>>>> provide. What's up with that?

    Cox refuses to send somebody out without charging me $75 despite the fact
    that I pay $10 a month to get free service calls.

    That's the craziest thing I've heard. I mean, yes it is free money for >>>>> the company but then you have to wonder just what are you paying that >>>>> $10 for and why do you keep paying it?


    Because they won’t let you cancel it

    There is nothing you shouldn't be able to cancel if it is an extra >>>service.

    Have you met cable?

    Oh I understand. I'm just saying how it SHOULD work. Seems like you
    might be able to talk to your local public utility commission.

    Cable hasn't been regulated by state PUCs since the Telecom Act of 1992.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Sun Aug 10 01:00:03 2025
    Adam H. Kerman <[email protected]> wrote:
    BTR1701 <[email protected]> wrote:

    An oldie but a goodie and always deserves a repost:

    The First Honest Cable Company

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ilMx7k7mso&pp=ygUUaG9uZXN0IGNhYmxlIGNvbXBhbnk%3D

    They also did one for net neutrality:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JucFpDhuF98&pp=ygUUaG9uZXN0IGNhYmxlIGNvbXBhbnk%3D

    "We want more money."

    SOUTH PARK did a good bit on the local cable company, too

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbHqUNl8YFk&pp=ygUUaG9uZXN0IGNhYmxlIGNvbXBhbnk%3D

    These are wonderful.

    He did this one as well.

    The First Man to be Purchased by Disney https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79R5mOBJjlE

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Sat Aug 9 20:36:02 2025
    On 8/9/2025 4:06 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 8/9/2025 11:31 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 8/9/2025 8:09 AM, Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:
    did [email protected] deliver unto us this message:

    . . .

    They always want to charge in case the problem isn't with their plant. >>>>>> That said even if it is in their plant they will try to charge you >>>>>> unless you fight back. Unless it is clearly a plant issue the CSRs >>>>>> tend to assume the problem is with the user's equipment, hence the >>>>>> charge.

    That's terrible. Seems like every interaction these days has to be
    approached as a potential fight.

    Welcome to unfettered capitalism.

    D.T., you throw terms like capitalist and capitalism around like
    epithets, which is no different than the term liberal being treated like >>> a label of contempt that must be disrespected.

    Capitalism is an economic system in which the means of production are
    privately owned. It is a neutral term. That's all it means.

    Of course it's fettered. People are free to contract and enter into
    business transactions having reasonable expectations of both parties
    performing the contract. If one party fails to perform, that's a breech
    of contract and is enforceable in court or arbitration.

    Except in the US it is becoming less and less enforceable because the
    laws to enforce it are being stripped away.

    It turns out, with arbitration, you can choose your own and don't have
    to go with the company's.

    That depends on jurisdiction and still doesn't really address the
    inherent bias of arbitrators knowing they are unlikely to get repeat
    business from a company that they rule against.

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to shawn on Sat Aug 9 23:53:56 2025
    shawn <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 11:43:06 -0700, anim8rfsk <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    shawn <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 09:06:24 -0700, anim8rfsk <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Melissa Hollingsworth <[email protected]> wrote:
    Verily, in article <[email protected]>, did >>>>> [email protected] deliver unto us this message:

    [email protected] wrote:
    Ubiquitous wrote:

    After an arduous workout and continuing cable oujtage, I watched: >>>>>>>>
    Nothing.

    The cable outage blows, but are you getting more accomplished at least? >>>>>>
    One would think, but not withn intermittant Internet. Comcast is sending >>>>>> someone over and charging me $100.

    They shouldn't be charging you to fix service they're supposed to
    provide. What's up with that?

    Cox refuses to send somebody out without charging me $75 despite the fact >>>> that I pay $10 a month to get free service calls.

    That's the craziest thing I've heard. I mean, yes it is free money for
    the company but then you have to wonder just what are you paying that
    $10 for and why do you keep paying it?


    Because they won’t let you cancel it

    There is nothing you shouldn't be able to cancel if it is an extra
    service.


    You can’t do it online anymore. You have to talk to a real person. The real person simply says no you can’t cancel it. You can’t cancel part of a service. You can’t move your service down to a lower level. Where do you go from there?

    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From shawn@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 10 03:14:42 2025
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 23:53:56 -0700, anim8rfsk <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    shawn <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 11:43:06 -0700, anim8rfsk <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    shawn <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 09:06:24 -0700, anim8rfsk <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Melissa Hollingsworth <[email protected]> wrote:
    Verily, in article <[email protected]>, did >>>>>> [email protected] deliver unto us this message:

    [email protected] wrote:
    Ubiquitous wrote:

    After an arduous workout and continuing cable oujtage, I watched: >>>>>>>>>
    Nothing.

    The cable outage blows, but are you getting more accomplished at least?

    One would think, but not withn intermittant Internet. Comcast is sending
    someone over and charging me $100.

    They shouldn't be charging you to fix service they're supposed to
    provide. What's up with that?

    Cox refuses to send somebody out without charging me $75 despite the fact >>>>> that I pay $10 a month to get free service calls.

    That's the craziest thing I've heard. I mean, yes it is free money for >>>> the company but then you have to wonder just what are you paying that
    $10 for and why do you keep paying it?


    Because they won’t let you cancel it

    There is nothing you shouldn't be able to cancel if it is an extra
    service.


    You can’t do it online anymore. You have to talk to a real person. The real >person simply says no you can’t cancel it. You can’t cancel part of a >service. You can’t move your service down to a lower level. Where do you go >from there?

    You cancel the service and start over from there.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to shawn on Sun Aug 10 08:24:11 2025
    shawn <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 23:53:56 -0700, anim8rfsk <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    shawn <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 11:43:06 -0700, anim8rfsk <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    shawn <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 09:06:24 -0700, anim8rfsk <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Melissa Hollingsworth <[email protected]> wrote:
    Verily, in article <[email protected]>, did >>>>>>> [email protected] deliver unto us this message:

    [email protected] wrote:
    Ubiquitous wrote:

    After an arduous workout and continuing cable oujtage, I watched: >>>>>>>>>>
    Nothing.

    The cable outage blows, but are you getting more accomplished at least?

    One would think, but not withn intermittant Internet. Comcast is sending
    someone over and charging me $100.

    They shouldn't be charging you to fix service they're supposed to >>>>>>> provide. What's up with that?

    Cox refuses to send somebody out without charging me $75 despite the fact
    that I pay $10 a month to get free service calls.

    That's the craziest thing I've heard. I mean, yes it is free money for >>>>> the company but then you have to wonder just what are you paying that >>>>> $10 for and why do you keep paying it?


    Because they won’t let you cancel it

    There is nothing you shouldn't be able to cancel if it is an extra
    service.


    You can’t do it online anymore. You have to talk to a real person. The real
    person simply says no you can’t cancel it. You can’t cancel part of a
    service. You can’t move your service down to a lower level. Where do you go
    from there?

    You cancel the service and start over from there.


    Exactly what I’m doing as soon as I’ve cleaned off the DVR completely.

    Unless they offer me like literally thousands of dollars which they owe me
    for years of compromised service.

    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 10 09:51:40 2025
    On 8/9/2025 11:53 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    shawn <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 11:43:06 -0700, anim8rfsk <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    shawn <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 09:06:24 -0700, anim8rfsk <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Melissa Hollingsworth <[email protected]> wrote:
    Verily, in article <[email protected]>, did >>>>>> [email protected] deliver unto us this message:

    [email protected] wrote:
    Ubiquitous wrote:

    After an arduous workout and continuing cable oujtage, I watched: >>>>>>>>>
    Nothing.

    The cable outage blows, but are you getting more accomplished at least?

    One would think, but not withn intermittant Internet. Comcast is sending
    someone over and charging me $100.

    They shouldn't be charging you to fix service they're supposed to
    provide. What's up with that?

    Cox refuses to send somebody out without charging me $75 despite the fact >>>>> that I pay $10 a month to get free service calls.

    That's the craziest thing I've heard. I mean, yes it is free money for >>>> the company but then you have to wonder just what are you paying that
    $10 for and why do you keep paying it?


    Because they won’t let you cancel it

    There is nothing you shouldn't be able to cancel if it is an extra
    service.


    You can’t do it online anymore. You have to talk to a real person. The real person simply says no you can’t cancel it. You can’t cancel part of a service. You can’t move your service down to a lower level. Where do you go from there?

    Do they consider "no service" (as in cancelled entirely) a "lower level"
    that you can't downgrade to?

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From shawn@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 10 14:49:58 2025
    On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 08:24:11 -0700, anim8rfsk <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    shawn <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 23:53:56 -0700, anim8rfsk <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    shawn <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 11:43:06 -0700, anim8rfsk <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    shawn <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 09:06:24 -0700, anim8rfsk <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Melissa Hollingsworth <[email protected]> wrote:
    Verily, in article <[email protected]>, did
    [email protected] deliver unto us this message:

    [email protected] wrote:
    Ubiquitous wrote:

    After an arduous workout and continuing cable oujtage, I watched: >>>>>>>>>>>
    Nothing.

    The cable outage blows, but are you getting more accomplished at least?

    One would think, but not withn intermittant Internet. Comcast is sending
    someone over and charging me $100.

    They shouldn't be charging you to fix service they're supposed to >>>>>>>> provide. What's up with that?

    Cox refuses to send somebody out without charging me $75 despite the fact
    that I pay $10 a month to get free service calls.

    That's the craziest thing I've heard. I mean, yes it is free money for >>>>>> the company but then you have to wonder just what are you paying that >>>>>> $10 for and why do you keep paying it?


    Because they won’t let you cancel it

    There is nothing you shouldn't be able to cancel if it is an extra
    service.


    You can’t do it online anymore. You have to talk to a real person. The real
    person simply says no you can’t cancel it. You can’t cancel part of a >>> service. You can’t move your service down to a lower level. Where do you go
    from there?

    You cancel the service and start over from there.


    Exactly what I’m doing as soon as I’ve cleaned off the DVR completely.

    Unless they offer me like literally thousands of dollars which they owe me >for years of compromised service.

    Don't blame you at all. The one good thing about Comcast when I had
    them was that at the end of each term of service I could call them up,
    connect to the right people whose name I can't think of right now
    (retention) and tell them I wanted to know what deals they could offer
    me to keep my business. They always gave me whatever the going deal
    was for new customers which was a good deal over the normal cost, but
    at the cost of needing to sign up for another year or two of service.
    No arguments, no need to spend hours negotiating. Did it a few times
    with no issues.

    Comcast may not be perfect but they know how much more it costs them
    to get a new customer over keeping an existing customer.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to shawn on Sun Aug 10 19:06:49 2025
    shawn <[email protected]> wrote:

    . . .

    Don't blame you at all. The one good thing about Comcast when I had
    them was that at the end of each term of service I could call them up, >connect to the right people whose name I can't think of right now
    (retention)

    Yes, that's correct.

    and tell them I wanted to know what deals they could offer
    me to keep my business. They always gave me whatever the going deal
    was for new customers which was a good deal over the normal cost, but
    at the cost of needing to sign up for another year or two of service.
    No arguments, no need to spend hours negotiating. Did it a few times
    with no issues.

    Comcast may not be perfect but they know how much more it costs them
    to get a new customer over keeping an existing customer.

    The Black Plague may be deadly, but at least Poe got a famous short
    story out of it.

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Sun Aug 10 18:08:35 2025
    Dimensional Traveler <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 8/9/2025 11:53 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    shawn <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 11:43:06 -0700, anim8rfsk <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    shawn <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 09:06:24 -0700, anim8rfsk <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Melissa Hollingsworth <[email protected]> wrote:
    Verily, in article <[email protected]>, did >>>>>>> [email protected] deliver unto us this message:

    [email protected] wrote:
    Ubiquitous wrote:

    After an arduous workout and continuing cable oujtage, I watched: >>>>>>>>>>
    Nothing.

    The cable outage blows, but are you getting more accomplished at least?

    One would think, but not withn intermittant Internet. Comcast is sending
    someone over and charging me $100.

    They shouldn't be charging you to fix service they're supposed to >>>>>>> provide. What's up with that?

    Cox refuses to send somebody out without charging me $75 despite the fact
    that I pay $10 a month to get free service calls.

    That's the craziest thing I've heard. I mean, yes it is free money for >>>>> the company but then you have to wonder just what are you paying that >>>>> $10 for and why do you keep paying it?


    Because they won’t let you cancel it

    There is nothing you shouldn't be able to cancel if it is an extra
    service.


    You can’t do it online anymore. You have to talk to a real person. The real
    person simply says no you can’t cancel it. You can’t cancel part of a
    service. You can’t move your service down to a lower level. Where do you go
    from there?

    Do they consider "no service" (as in cancelled entirely) a "lower level"
    that you can't downgrade to?

    It wouldn’t surprise me.

    When my mother died, the Arizona Republic (local Fish wrap) told me I couldn’t cancel her subscription just because she was dead. If I could’ve reached through the phone and strangled that bitch I would have.



    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

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