• Re: SHOOT 'EM DOWN! Putin Hopes To Travel Overseas To Meet Trump Despit

    From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 8 10:33:33 2025
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    alleged involvement in the abduction of children from Ukraine during the

    Indeed, several dozen childred were evacuated further
    from the combat zone for their safety (I can guess,
    those kept in orphanages located in the area, those who
    for some reason turned to be without adult relatives
    or legal fiduciaries).

    Claiming it was an abduction is incorrect.

    The court, headquartered in The Hague, Netherlands,

    Hence this court is rather a bunch of clowns.

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 8 13:55:42 2025
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    Dmitry Krivitsky, <news:[email protected]>
    On 8/8/2025 3:33 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

    alleged involvement in the abduction of children from Ukraine during the

    Indeed, several dozen childred were evacuated further from the combat
    zone for their safety (I can guess, those kept in orphanages located in

    https://tinyurl.com/mryfew8n

    <https://www.rbc.ru/politics/02/06/2025/683da77e9a79476804172427>

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  • From Dmitry Krivitsky@21:1/5 to Oleg Smirnov on Fri Aug 8 06:46:13 2025
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    XPost: alt.home.repair

    On 8/8/2025 3:33 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
    alleged involvement in the abduction of children from Ukraine during the

    Indeed, several dozen childred were evacuated further from the combat
    zone for their safety (I can guess, those kept in orphanages located in

    https://tinyurl.com/mryfew8n
    https://tinyurl.com/33vt8wtb

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  • From Gary King@21:1/5 to Dmitry Krivitsky on Fri Aug 8 13:27:52 2025
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    XPost: alt.home.repair

    Dmitry Krivitsky wrote:

    On 8/8/2025 3:33 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
    alleged involvement in the abduction of children from Ukraine during the

    Indeed, several dozen childred were evacuated further from the combat
    zone for their safety (I can guess, those kept in orphanages located in

    https://tinyurl.com/mryfew8n
    https://tinyurl.com/33vt8wtb




    We need to get Pete Kegbreth to click on Russian provided links on Usenet because it always ends well.

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 8 16:58:14 2025
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    XPost: alt.home.repair

    Dmitry Krivitsky, <news:[email protected]>
    On 8/8/2025 9:27 AM, Gary King wrote:
    Dmitry Krivitsky wrote:

    We need to get Pete Kegbreth to click on Russian provided links on Usenet
    because it always ends well.

    Did you just call me a Russian?

    Пендосы же, они же тупые.

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  • From Dmitry Krivitsky@21:1/5 to Gary King on Fri Aug 8 09:37:44 2025
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    XPost: alt.home.repair

    On 8/8/2025 9:27 AM, Gary King wrote:
    Dmitry Krivitsky wrote:
    On 8/8/2025 3:33 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
    alleged involvement in the abduction of children from Ukraine during the >>>
    Indeed, several dozen childred were evacuated further from the combat
    zone for their safety (I can guess, those kept in orphanages located in

    https://tinyurl.com/mryfew8n
    https://tinyurl.com/33vt8wtb

    We need to get Pete Kegbreth to click on Russian provided links on Usenet because it always ends well.

    Did you just call me a Russian?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Dmitry Krivitsky on Fri Aug 8 10:00:50 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    Dmitry Krivitsky wrote:
    On 8/8/2025 3:33 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
    alleged involvement in the abduction of children from Ukraine during the

    Indeed, several dozen childred were evacuated further from the combat
    zone for their safety (I can guess, those kept in orphanages located in

    https://tinyurl.com/mryfew8n
    https://tinyurl.com/33vt8wtb


    Russia could do something outrageous like not dropping bombs on children.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    Thank goodness my iron lung is working again! /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Dmitry Krivitsky on Fri Aug 8 10:02:05 2025
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    XPost: alt.home.repair

    Dmitry Krivitsky wrote:
    On 8/8/2025 9:27 AM, Gary King wrote:
    Dmitry Krivitsky wrote:
    On 8/8/2025 3:33 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
    alleged involvement in the abduction of children from Ukraine
    during the

    Indeed, several dozen childred were evacuated further from the combat
    zone for their safety (I can guess, those kept in orphanages located in >>>
    https://tinyurl.com/mryfew8n
    https://tinyurl.com/33vt8wtb

    We need to get Pete Kegbreth to click on Russian provided links on Usenet
    because it always ends well.

    Did you just call me a Russian?


    Was that Ukrainian wikipedia?

    --
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  • From Dmitry Krivitsky@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Fri Aug 8 20:32:21 2025
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    XPost: alt.home.repair

    On 8/8/2025 1:02 PM, chine.bleu wrote:
    Dmitry Krivitsky wrote:
    On 8/8/2025 9:27 AM, Gary King wrote:
    Dmitry Krivitsky wrote:
    On 8/8/2025 3:33 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
    alleged involvement in the abduction of children from Ukraine
    during the

    Indeed, several dozen childred were evacuated further from the combat >>>>> zone for their safety (I can guess, those kept in orphanages
    located in

    https://tinyurl.com/mryfew8n
    https://tinyurl.com/33vt8wtb

    We need to get Pete Kegbreth to click on Russian provided links on
    Usenet
    because it always ends well.

    Did you just call me a Russian?

    Was that Ukrainian wikipedia?

    The first link was Russian Wikipedia, the second link was Ukrainian
    Wikipedia.

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 10 12:02:39 2025
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    XPost: alt.home.repair

    Dmitry Krivitsky, <news:[email protected]>
    On 8/8/2025 1:02 PM, chine.bleu wrote:

    We need to get Pete Kegbreth to click on Russian provided links on
    Usenet
    because it always ends well.

    Did you just call me a Russian?

    Was that Ukrainian wikipedia?

    The first link was Russian Wikipedia, the second link was Ukrainian Wikipedia.

    Саундз эбаут райт (Russian first).

    <https://t.me/stranaua/206038>

    ### публикует переписку нардепов от "Слуги народа" в разгар
    скандала с НАБУ .. Примечательно, что многие депутаты в ней
    говорят на русском языке, даже ярые сторонники украинизации ..

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  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Aug 10 12:29:24 2025
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    XPost: alt.home.repair

    On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 10:00:50 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <1075ag4$r1l8$[email protected]> wrote:

    Dmitry Krivitsky wrote:
    On 8/8/2025 3:33 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
    alleged involvement in the abduction of children from Ukraine during the >>>
    Indeed, several dozen childred were evacuated further from the combat
    zone for their safety (I can guess, those kept in orphanages located in

    https://tinyurl.com/mryfew8n
    https://tinyurl.com/33vt8wtb


    Russia could do something outrageous like not dropping bombs on children.

    How?

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    National Socialist American Workers Party
    (NSAWP) formally known as the Democrat Party

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

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  • From Samuel Spade@21:1/5 to Attila on Sun Aug 10 16:05:45 2025
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    XPost: alt.home.repair

    Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 10:00:50 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <1075ag4$r1l8$[email protected]> wrote:

    Dmitry Krivitsky wrote:
    On 8/8/2025 3:33 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
    alleged involvement in the abduction of children from Ukraine during the >>>
    Indeed, several dozen childred were evacuated further from the combat
    zone for their safety (I can guess, those kept in orphanages located in >>
    https://tinyurl.com/mryfew8n
    https://tinyurl.com/33vt8wtb


    Russia could do something outrageous like not dropping bombs on children.

    How?


    Look at Siri. Do you see her dropping bombs on children?

    Try it. I bet you can not bomb kids too. Even for a few minutes.

    Now ask Putin nicely, and see if he can do the same.

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 11 10:00:05 2025
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    XPost: alt.home.repair

    Attila, <news:[email protected]>
    On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 16:05:45 -0700, Samuel Spade

    Now ask Putin nicely, and see if he can do the same.

    War has always involved civilians, and this involvement is
    including a greater and greater number of them. When the
    enemy hides within the civilian population it is not
    possible to completely eliminate non-targets. Also when the
    civilian population supports the enemy that support must be
    discouraged.

    If one learns reliable statistics, it's possible to notice
    that collateral damage from the Russian military strikes
    against the Kiev regime is very low, for exampe, much lower
    than compared to collateral damage from the U.S.' military
    operations in the Middle East.

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 11 09:51:18 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    Samuel Spade, <news:[email protected]>
    Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 10:00:50 -0700, "chine.bleu"

    Russia could do something outrageous like not dropping bombs on
    children.

    How?


    Look at Siri. Do you see her dropping bombs on children?

    Try it. I bet you can not bomb kids too. Even for a few minutes.

    She is an equinal, not everyone can become one.

    Now ask Putin nicely, and see if he can do the same.

    The 2014 violent anti-democratic coup in Kiev was evil.

    You sorry ##wits must recognize it before lamenting about bombs etc.

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  • From Attila@21:1/5 to 769i9kl1kf8gr3qtaqfltinb5i6c19h6nc@ on Mon Aug 11 02:30:58 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 16:05:45 -0700, Samuel Spade
    <[email protected]d> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 10:00:50 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1075ag4$r1l8$[email protected]> wrote:

    Dmitry Krivitsky wrote:
    On 8/8/2025 3:33 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
    alleged involvement in the abduction of children from Ukraine during the

    Indeed, several dozen childred were evacuated further from the combat
    zone for their safety (I can guess, those kept in orphanages located in >> >>
    https://tinyurl.com/mryfew8n
    https://tinyurl.com/33vt8wtb


    Russia could do something outrageous like not dropping bombs on children. >>
    How?


    Look at Siri. Do you see her dropping bombs on children?

    Try it. I bet you can not bomb kids too. Even for a few minutes.

    Now ask Putin nicely, and see if he can do the same.

    War has always involved civilians, and this involvement is
    including a greater and greater number of them. When the
    enemy hides within the civilian population it is not
    possible to completely eliminate non-targets. Also when the
    civilian population supports the enemy that support must be
    discouraged.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    National Socialist American Workers Party
    (NSAWP) formally known as the Democrat Party

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Aug 11 03:20:03 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 10:00:05 +0300, "Oleg Smirnov"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <107c4e2$2clh9$[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila, <news:[email protected]>
    On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 16:05:45 -0700, Samuel Spade

    Now ask Putin nicely, and see if he can do the same.

    War has always involved civilians, and this involvement is
    including a greater and greater number of them. When the
    enemy hides within the civilian population it is not
    possible to completely eliminate non-targets. Also when the
    civilian population supports the enemy that support must be
    discouraged.

    If one learns reliable statistics, it's possible to notice
    that collateral damage from the Russian military strikes
    against the Kiev regime is very low, for exampe, much lower
    than compared to collateral damage from the U.S.' military
    operations in the Middle East.

    More targets hide in the civilian population in the Middle
    East. It is a cultural thing - dying for their god
    automatically means they go to their heaven. That goes for
    civilians too.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    National Socialist American Workers Party
    (NSAWP) formally known as the Democrat Party

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From j. boasberg@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 11 09:45:32 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    On 10 Aug 2025, Attila <[email protected]> posted some news:[email protected]:

    On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 16:05:45 -0700, Samuel Spade
    <[email protected]d> in alt.atheism with message-id ><[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 10:00:50 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1075ag4$r1l8$[email protected]> wrote:

    Dmitry Krivitsky wrote:
    On 8/8/2025 3:33 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
    alleged involvement in the abduction of children from Ukraine
    during the

    Indeed, several dozen childred were evacuated further from the
    combat zone for their safety (I can guess, those kept in
    orphanages located in

    https://tinyurl.com/mryfew8n
    https://tinyurl.com/33vt8wtb


    Russia could do something outrageous like not dropping bombs on
    children.

    How?


    Look at Siri. Do you see her dropping bombs on children?

    Try it. I bet you can not bomb kids too. Even for a few minutes.

    Now ask Putin nicely, and see if he can do the same.

    War has always involved civilians, and this involvement is
    including a greater and greater number of them. When the
    enemy hides within the civilian population it is not
    possible to completely eliminate non-targets. Also when the
    civilian population supports the enemy that support must be
    discouraged.

    Ukraine started this entire mess by inviting the NATO camel's nose into
    the tent. Bush, Obama and John McCain added fuel to the flames by
    publicly supporting it. Russia had to object for the sake of national sovereignty. The USA would too under the same circumstances.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Samuel Spade@21:1/5 to Oleg Smirnov on Mon Aug 11 08:08:20 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    Oleg Smirnov wrote:
    Samuel Spade, <news:[email protected]>
    Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 10:00:50 -0700, "chine.bleu"

    Russia could do something outrageous like not dropping bombs on
    children.

    How?


    Look at Siri. Do you see her dropping bombs on children?

    Try it. I bet you can not bomb kids too. Even for a few minutes.

    She is an equinal, not everyone can become one.


    Most people don't want to be a horse, comrade.

    Now ask Putin nicely, and see if he can do the same.

    The 2014 violent anti-democratic coup in Kiev was evil.

    You sorry ##wits must recognize it before lamenting about bombs etc.


    LOL. Lay off the vodka, Smirnov.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Samuel Spade@21:1/5 to Attila on Mon Aug 11 08:03:03 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 16:05:45 -0700, Samuel Spade
    <[email protected]d> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 10:00:50 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1075ag4$r1l8$[email protected]> wrote:

    Dmitry Krivitsky wrote:
    On 8/8/2025 3:33 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
    alleged involvement in the abduction of children from Ukraine during the

    Indeed, several dozen childred were evacuated further from the combat >> >>> zone for their safety (I can guess, those kept in orphanages located in

    https://tinyurl.com/mryfew8n
    https://tinyurl.com/33vt8wtb


    Russia could do something outrageous like not dropping bombs on children. >>
    How?


    Look at Siri. Do you see her dropping bombs on children?

    Try it. I bet you can not bomb kids too. Even for a few minutes.

    Now ask Putin nicely, and see if he can do the same.

    War has always involved civilians, and this involvement is
    including a greater and greater number of them. When the
    enemy hides within the civilian population it is not
    possible to completely eliminate non-targets. Also when the
    civilian population supports the enemy that support must be
    discouraged.

    How many children do you think Putin should kill in order to accomplish
    his objective?

    You don't think anyone should do anything but watch, right? After all,
    it's not our fight.

    The Russian MO in Syria was to lightly bomb civilian areas, then wait
    for the "white helmets", the first responders, to arrive, then return
    for the serious bombing. Was that just more unfortunate but unavoidable collateral damage?

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Samuel Spade on Mon Aug 11 10:40:39 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.atheism, alt.home.repair

    Samuel Spade wrote:
    How many children do you think Putin should kill in order to accomplish
    his objective?

    <https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/16/europe/ukraine-mariupol-bombing-theater-intl>

    New satellite images from Maxar Technologies
    show that on Monday, the word "children" was
    spelled out in Russian in two areas outside
    the theater that was bombed on Wednesday.

    You don't think anyone should do anything but watch, right? After all,
    it's not our fight.

    The Russian MO in Syria was to lightly bomb civilian areas, then wait
    for the "white helmets", the first responders, to arrive, then return
    for the serious bombing. Was that just more unfortunate but unavoidable collateral damage?

    It is called terror bombing. It is violence against noncombatants to get
    them to rise up and overthrow the enemy government.

    Germany tried it against UK. US and UK tried it against Germany and
    Japan. Then southeast Asia.

    It has never worked.

    Putin is punishing anyone who does not worship him. Like idjt.

    Putin and idjt really think that Russia 'wins' Ukraine, it will be
    peace. It will instead be the beginning of a Ukrainian Underground.
    Violence will continue.

    --
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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 12 02:49:25 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    Samuel Spade, <news:[email protected]>
    Oleg Smirnov wrote:

    Look at Siri. Do you see her dropping bombs on children?

    Try it. I bet you can not bomb kids too. Even for a few minutes.

    She is an equinal, not everyone can become one.

    Most people don't want to be a horse, comrade.

    As if she had a choice ..

    Now ask Putin nicely, and see if he can do the same.

    The 2014 violent anti-democratic coup in Kiev was evil.

    You sorry ##wits must recognize it before lamenting about bombs etc.

    LOL. Lay off the vodka, Smirnov.

    Your cultist kind is now losing
    both domestically and globally
    for a reason.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to 1v0k9k5k8ij55rkksn6bmfr3lthql8l8v8@ on Tue Aug 12 05:32:44 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 08:03:03 -0700, Samuel Spade
    <[email protected]d> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 16:05:45 -0700, Samuel Spade
    <[email protected]d> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 10:00:50 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1075ag4$r1l8$[email protected]> wrote:

    Dmitry Krivitsky wrote:
    On 8/8/2025 3:33 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
    alleged involvement in the abduction of children from Ukraine during the

    Indeed, several dozen childred were evacuated further from the combat >> >> >>> zone for their safety (I can guess, those kept in orphanages located in

    https://tinyurl.com/mryfew8n
    https://tinyurl.com/33vt8wtb


    Russia could do something outrageous like not dropping bombs on children.

    How?


    Look at Siri. Do you see her dropping bombs on children?

    Try it. I bet you can not bomb kids too. Even for a few minutes.

    Now ask Putin nicely, and see if he can do the same.

    War has always involved civilians, and this involvement is
    including a greater and greater number of them. When the
    enemy hides within the civilian population it is not
    possible to completely eliminate non-targets. Also when the
    civilian population supports the enemy that support must be
    discouraged.

    How many children do you think Putin should kill in order to accomplish
    his objective?

    Children are seldom targeted in a war unless they are armed.


    You don't think anyone should do anything but watch, right? After all,
    it's not our fight.

    There are civilian casualties in every war. Attacking the
    will to fight has been used as a target since before WW I.


    The Russian MO in Syria was to lightly bomb civilian areas, then wait
    for the "white helmets", the first responders, to arrive, then return
    for the serious bombing. Was that just more unfortunate but unavoidable >collateral damage?

    War has rules?

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    National Socialist American Workers Party
    (NSAWP) formally known as the Democrat Party

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Attila on Tue Aug 12 13:17:42 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.atheism, alt.home.repair

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 08:03:03 -0700, Samuel Spade
    <[email protected]d> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 16:05:45 -0700, Samuel Spade
    <[email protected]d> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 10:00:50 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1075ag4$r1l8$[email protected]> wrote:

    Dmitry Krivitsky wrote:
    On 8/8/2025 3:33 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
    alleged involvement in the abduction of children from
    Ukraine during the

    Indeed, several dozen childred were evacuated further from
    the combat zone for their safety (I can guess, those kept in
    orphanages located in

    https://tinyurl.com/mryfew8n
    https://tinyurl.com/33vt8wtb


    Russia could do something outrageous like not dropping bombs on
    children.

    How?


    Look at Siri. Do you see her dropping bombs on children?

    Try it. I bet you can not bomb kids too. Even for a few minutes.

    Now ask Putin nicely, and see if he can do the same.

    War has always involved civilians, and this involvement is
    including a greater and greater number of them. When the
    enemy hides within the civilian population it is not
    possible to completely eliminate non-targets. Also when the
    civilian population supports the enemy that support must be
    discouraged.

    How many children do you think Putin should kill in order to
    accomplish his objective?

    Children are seldom targeted in a war unless they are armed.


    You don't think anyone should do anything but watch, right? After all,
    it's not our fight.

    There are civilian casualties in every war. Attacking the
    will to fight has been used as a target since before WW I.


    The Russian MO in Syria was to lightly bomb civilian areas, then wait
    for the "white helmets", the first responders, to arrive, then return
    for the serious bombing. Was that just more unfortunate but
    unavoidable collateral damage?

    War has rules?


    Ever hear of war crimes?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Aug 12 13:02:07 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.atheism, alt.home.repair

    On Tue, 12 Aug 2025 13:17:42 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 08:03:03 -0700, Samuel Spade
    <[email protected]d> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 16:05:45 -0700, Samuel Spade
    <[email protected]d> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 10:00:50 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1075ag4$r1l8$[email protected]> wrote:

    Dmitry Krivitsky wrote:
    On 8/8/2025 3:33 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
    alleged involvement in the abduction of children from
    Ukraine during the

    Indeed, several dozen childred were evacuated further from
    the combat zone for their safety (I can guess, those kept in
    orphanages located in

    https://tinyurl.com/mryfew8n
    https://tinyurl.com/33vt8wtb


    Russia could do something outrageous like not dropping bombs on
    children.

    How?


    Look at Siri. Do you see her dropping bombs on children?

    Try it. I bet you can not bomb kids too. Even for a few minutes.

    Now ask Putin nicely, and see if he can do the same.

    War has always involved civilians, and this involvement is
    including a greater and greater number of them. When the
    enemy hides within the civilian population it is not
    possible to completely eliminate non-targets. Also when the
    civilian population supports the enemy that support must be
    discouraged.

    How many children do you think Putin should kill in order to
    accomplish his objective?

    Children are seldom targeted in a war unless they are armed.


    You don't think anyone should do anything but watch, right? After all, >>>it's not our fight.

    There are civilian casualties in every war. Attacking the
    will to fight has been used as a target since before WW I.


    The Russian MO in Syria was to lightly bomb civilian areas, then wait
    for the "white helmets", the first responders, to arrive, then return
    for the serious bombing. Was that just more unfortunate but
    unavoidable collateral damage?

    War has rules?


    Ever hear of war crimes?


    Sure. It's what the victor says the loser did.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    National Socialist American Workers Party
    (NSAWP) formally known as the Democrat Party

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Attila on Tue Aug 12 18:14:12 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.atheism, alt.home.repair

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Tue, 12 Aug 2025 13:17:42 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 08:03:03 -0700, Samuel Spade
    <[email protected]d> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 16:05:45 -0700, Samuel Spade
    <[email protected]d> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 10:00:50 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1075ag4$r1l8$[email protected]> wrote:

    Dmitry Krivitsky wrote:
    On 8/8/2025 3:33 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
    alleged involvement in the abduction of children from
    Ukraine during the

    Indeed, several dozen childred were evacuated further from
    the combat zone for their safety (I can guess, those kept in
    orphanages located in

    https://tinyurl.com/mryfew8n
    https://tinyurl.com/33vt8wtb


    Russia could do something outrageous like not dropping bombs on
    children.

    How?


    Look at Siri. Do you see her dropping bombs on children?

    Try it. I bet you can not bomb kids too. Even for a few minutes.

    Now ask Putin nicely, and see if he can do the same.

    War has always involved civilians, and this involvement is
    including a greater and greater number of them. When the
    enemy hides within the civilian population it is not
    possible to completely eliminate non-targets. Also when the
    civilian population supports the enemy that support must be
    discouraged.

    How many children do you think Putin should kill in order to
    accomplish his objective?

    Children are seldom targeted in a war unless they are armed.


    You don't think anyone should do anything but watch, right? After
    all,
    it's not our fight.

    There are civilian casualties in every war. Attacking the
    will to fight has been used as a target since before WW I.


    The Russian MO in Syria was to lightly bomb civilian areas, then wait >>>>for the "white helmets", the first responders, to arrive, then return >>>>for the serious bombing. Was that just more unfortunate but
    unavoidable collateral damage?

    War has rules?


    Ever hear of war crimes?


    Sure. It's what the victor says the loser did.



    Do you think war criminals
    were illegally prosecuted?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 12 23:15:34 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.atheism, alt.home.repair

    Mitchell Holman, <news:[email protected]>
    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in

    Ever hear of war crimes?

    Sure. It's what the victor says the loser did.

    Do you think war criminals
    were illegally prosecuted?

    In the Ukraine case, the main war criminal is Barack Obama.
    Trump may be a moron in many respects, but it's not Trump's
    fault that Obama initiated the war there. American "liberal"
    faction, the Democrats, all these filth, were/are the major
    warmongers under nice / pathetic slogans, - they initiated
    the war Atlanticism surely couldnn't win, and now Trump has
    to clean up the mistakes of them.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Aug 12 18:58:26 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.atheism, alt.home.repair

    On Tue, 12 Aug 2025 18:14:12 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >news:[email protected]:

    On Tue, 12 Aug 2025 13:17:42 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 08:03:03 -0700, Samuel Spade
    <[email protected]d> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 16:05:45 -0700, Samuel Spade
    <[email protected]d> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 10:00:50 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1075ag4$r1l8$[email protected]> wrote:

    Dmitry Krivitsky wrote:
    On 8/8/2025 3:33 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
    alleged involvement in the abduction of children from
    Ukraine during the

    Indeed, several dozen childred were evacuated further from
    the combat zone for their safety (I can guess, those kept in >>>>>> >> >>> orphanages located in

    https://tinyurl.com/mryfew8n
    https://tinyurl.com/33vt8wtb


    Russia could do something outrageous like not dropping bombs on >>>>>> >> >children.

    How?


    Look at Siri. Do you see her dropping bombs on children?

    Try it. I bet you can not bomb kids too. Even for a few minutes.

    Now ask Putin nicely, and see if he can do the same.

    War has always involved civilians, and this involvement is
    including a greater and greater number of them. When the
    enemy hides within the civilian population it is not
    possible to completely eliminate non-targets. Also when the
    civilian population supports the enemy that support must be
    discouraged.

    How many children do you think Putin should kill in order to >>>>>accomplish his objective?

    Children are seldom targeted in a war unless they are armed.


    You don't think anyone should do anything but watch, right? After
    all,
    it's not our fight.

    There are civilian casualties in every war. Attacking the
    will to fight has been used as a target since before WW I.


    The Russian MO in Syria was to lightly bomb civilian areas, then wait >>>>>for the "white helmets", the first responders, to arrive, then return >>>>>for the serious bombing. Was that just more unfortunate but >>>>>unavoidable collateral damage?

    War has rules?


    Ever hear of war crimes?


    Sure. It's what the victor says the loser did.



    Do you think war criminals
    were illegally prosecuted?



    Too broad a statement. Which war?

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    National Socialist American Workers Party
    (NSAWP) formally known as the Democrat Party

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Tue Aug 12 16:39:51 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.atheism, alt.home.repair

    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Sure. It's what the victor says the loser did.


    Do you think war criminals
    were illegally prosecuted?

    You ask of a nazi apologist?

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    Thank goodness my iron lung is working again! /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Attila on Wed Aug 13 01:45:31 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.atheism, alt.home.repair

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Tue, 12 Aug 2025 18:14:12 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>news:[email protected]:

    On Tue, 12 Aug 2025 13:17:42 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 08:03:03 -0700, Samuel Spade
    <[email protected]d> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 16:05:45 -0700, Samuel Spade
    <[email protected]d> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 10:00:50 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <1075ag4$r1l8$[email protected]> wrote:

    Dmitry Krivitsky wrote:
    On 8/8/2025 3:33 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
    alleged involvement in the abduction of children from
    Ukraine during the

    Indeed, several dozen childred were evacuated further from >>>>>>> >> >>> the combat zone for their safety (I can guess, those kept
    in
    orphanages located in

    https://tinyurl.com/mryfew8n
    https://tinyurl.com/33vt8wtb


    Russia could do something outrageous like not dropping bombs
    on
    children.

    How?


    Look at Siri. Do you see her dropping bombs on children?

    Try it. I bet you can not bomb kids too. Even for a few minutes. >>>>>>> >
    Now ask Putin nicely, and see if he can do the same.

    War has always involved civilians, and this involvement is
    including a greater and greater number of them. When the
    enemy hides within the civilian population it is not
    possible to completely eliminate non-targets. Also when the
    civilian population supports the enemy that support must be
    discouraged.

    How many children do you think Putin should kill in order to >>>>>>accomplish his objective?

    Children are seldom targeted in a war unless they are armed.


    You don't think anyone should do anything but watch, right? After
    all,
    it's not our fight.

    There are civilian casualties in every war. Attacking the
    will to fight has been used as a target since before WW I.


    The Russian MO in Syria was to lightly bomb civilian areas, then
    wait
    for the "white helmets", the first responders, to arrive, then
    return
    for the serious bombing. Was that just more unfortunate but >>>>>>unavoidable collateral damage?

    War has rules?


    Ever hear of war crimes?


    Sure. It's what the victor says the loser did.



    Do you think war criminals
    were illegally prosecuted?



    Too broad a statement. Which war?



    Nurumberg war trials.

    Japanese war trials.

    Bosnian war trial.

    Chennai war trial.


    Take your pick.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Aug 13 06:31:28 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.atheism, alt.home.repair

    On Wed, 13 Aug 2025 01:45:31 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Do you think war criminals
    were illegally prosecuted?



    Too broad a statement. Which war?



    Nurumberg war trials.

    Nuremberg is interesting. After the war the allies wanted
    the top German officials prosecuted but there was a problem
    - no existing law applies. Those involved wanted a legal
    process and not to simply shoot the losers because they
    lost. After a lot of behind the scenes consultation new
    laws were passed creating "Crimes Against Humanity" and the
    Axis powers were tried under these newly crafted laws that
    did not exist until after the war was over.


    Japanese war trials.

    Bosnian war trial.

    Chennai war trial.


    Take your pick.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    National Socialist American Workers Party
    (NSAWP) formally known as the Democrat Party

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Attila on Wed Aug 13 12:55:38 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.atheism, alt.home.repair

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Wed, 13 Aug 2025 01:45:31 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Do you think war criminals
    were illegally prosecuted?



    Too broad a statement. Which war?



    Nurumberg war trials.

    Nuremberg is interesting. After the war the allies wanted
    the top German officials prosecuted but there was a problem
    - no existing law applies. Those involved wanted a legal
    process and not to simply shoot the losers because they
    lost. After a lot of behind the scenes consultation new
    laws were passed creating "Crimes Against Humanity" and the
    Axis powers were tried under these newly crafted laws that
    did not exist until after the war was over.



    So, do you think war criminals
    were illegally prosecuted?



    Japanese war trials.

    Bosnian war trial.

    Chennai war trial.


    Take your pick.


    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Aug 13 09:44:58 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.atheism, alt.home.repair

    On Wed, 13 Aug 2025 12:55:38 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >news:[email protected]:

    On Wed, 13 Aug 2025 01:45:31 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Do you think war criminals
    were illegally prosecuted?



    Too broad a statement. Which war?



    Nurumberg war trials.

    Nuremberg is interesting. After the war the allies wanted
    the top German officials prosecuted but there was a problem
    - no existing law applies. Those involved wanted a legal
    process and not to simply shoot the losers because they
    lost. After a lot of behind the scenes consultation new
    laws were passed creating "Crimes Against Humanity" and the
    Axis powers were tried under these newly crafted laws that
    did not exist until after the war was over.



    So, do you think war criminals
    were illegally prosecuted?

    That question is still raised from time to time. Was it
    legal to try someone under laws defined and established
    after the acts that were the basis for the charges and
    trials?

    Ex post facto laws, which retroactively change the legal
    consequences of actions, are prohibited by the U.S.
    Constitution. Specifically, Article I, Section 9, Clause 3
    prohibits the federal government, and Article I, Section 10,
    prohibits states from enacting them. These clauses prevent
    laws from being applied to actions taken before the law's
    passage, ensuring predictability and fairness in the legal
    system.

    It would appear such laws were specifically banned in the US
    Constitution. I do not know the rationale used to try the
    defendants in Nuremberg.




    Japanese war trials.

    Bosnian war trial.

    Chennai war trial.


    Take your pick.


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  • From Al Feldhauser@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 13 07:14:46 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.atheism, alt.home.repair

    On 8/13/2025 6:44 AM, "Attila," 84+ year old geriatric lying Nazi shitbag and rapist, lied:
    On Wed, 13 Aug 2025 12:55:38 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Wed, 13 Aug 2025 01:45:31 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Do you think war criminals
    were illegally prosecuted?



    Too broad a statement. Which war?



    Nurumberg war trials.

    Nuremberg is interesting. After the war the allies wanted
    the top German officials prosecuted but there was a problem
    - no existing law applies. Those involved wanted a legal
    process and not to simply shoot the losers because they
    lost. After a lot of behind the scenes consultation new
    laws were passed creating "Crimes Against Humanity" and the
    Axis powers were tried under these newly crafted laws that
    did not exist until after the war was over.



    So, do you think war criminals
    were illegally prosecuted?

    That question is still raised from time to time. Was it
    legal to try someone under laws defined and established
    after the acts that were the basis for the charges and
    trials?

    Those laws were *not* defined after the acts were committed.

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Al Feldhauser on Wed Aug 13 09:47:16 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.atheism, alt.home.repair

    Al Feldhauser wrote:
    So, do you think war criminals
    were illegally prosecuted?

    That question is still raised from time to time. Was it
    legal to try someone under laws defined and established
    after the acts that were the basis for the charges and
    trials?

    Those laws were *not* defined after the acts were committed.

    Who thought killing six million unarmed noncombatants in occupied
    territories might be coinsiderred a tad unsportsmanlike?

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  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Aug 13 19:11:20 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.atheism, alt.home.repair

    On Wed, 13 Aug 2025 09:47:16 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <107ifim$f0d$[email protected]> wrote:

    Al Feldhauser wrote:
    So, do you think war criminals
    were illegally prosecuted?

    That question is still raised from time to time. Was it
    legal to try someone under laws defined and established
    after the acts that were the basis for the charges and
    trials?

    Those laws were *not* defined after the acts were committed.

    Who thought killing six million unarmed noncombatants in occupied
    territories might be coinsiderred a tad unsportsmanlike?

    Crimes against humanity, as a legal concept, primarily
    originated from the post-World War II International Military
    Tribunals at Nuremberg and Tokyo. These tribunals
    established the first instances of prosecuting such acts,
    which were defined as "inhuman acts" committed against a
    civilian population. While the term itself had earlier
    usage, its formal codification and prosecution in
    international law began with these post-war trials.
    Here's a more detailed breakdown:
    Early Uses:
    The term "crimes against humanity" or similar phrases
    appeared in discussions related to slavery, colonialism, and
    the Armenian genocide during the late 19th and early 20th
    centuries.
    Formal Definition and Prosecution:
    The concept was formally defined and applied in the
    Nuremberg and Tokyo Charters following World War II.
    Nuremberg and Tokyo Tribunals:
    These tribunals marked the first time individuals were
    prosecuted for crimes against humanity, alongside war crimes
    and crimes against peace.

    For a description of the events involved:

    https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/crimes-against-humanity-international-law#:~:text=In%20May%201915%20during%20World,occur%20without%20an%20existing%20statute.



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    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    National Socialist American Workers Party
    (NSAWP) formally known as the Democrat Party

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 14 06:08:19 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    Governor Swill, <news:[email protected]>
    On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 19:44:45 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 10:00:05 +0300, "Oleg Smirnov" wrote:

    If one learns reliable statistics, it's possible to notice
    that collateral damage from the Russian military strikes
    against the Kiev regime is very low, for exampe, much lower
    than compared to collateral damage from the U.S.' military
    operations in the Middle East.

    Are you admitting that all the destruction of civilians including
    schools and hospitals is due to Russian incompetence and inferior
    weapons systems?

    Because, you know, those civilian strikes are not collatoral damage.

    Poor Oleg. NOT.

    Trump said twice during a presser that he's going to Russia to meet
    with Putin. Actually they're meeting in Alaska.

    Hmm . . .

    NP: Rush - A Farewell To Kings
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    8647

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Wed Aug 13 21:04:05 2025
    XPost: alt.russian.z1, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    Governor Swill wrote:
    Children are seldom targeted in a war unless they are armed.
    Putin is targeting them. Schools, hospitals, parks, apartment blocks, shopping centers, anywhere civilians are you'll find Russian bombs
    landing.

    A theatre was used as a bomb shelter. 'children' was written on the
    ground next to it. Russia bombed it.

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Fri Aug 15 18:32:02 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.atheism, alt.home.repair

    Governor Swill wrote:
    In the Ukraine case,

    Hey, Oleg, you never answered my question.

    Do you admit that Ukraine's civilian deaths are due to either
    deliberate targeting or inferior weapons systems?


    How do Russians ever expect peace with Ukraine. Their economy is
    collapsing. Who do Russians expect to invest in bringing them back to
    the stone age?

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