• Re: All-Male Species? (was Re: What Did You Watch?)

    From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Melissa Hollingsworth on Wed Aug 6 19:21:22 2025
    Melissa Hollingsworth <[email protected]> wrote:
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    [email protected] wrote:
    Melissa Hollingsworth <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>[email protected] wrote:

    THE INSIDIOUS REALITY OF STARFLEET ACADEMY'S HALF JEM'HADAR:
    Star Trek and Alex Kurtzman aren't just putting int a half Jem'Hadar into >>>>>Starfleet Academy to stir controversy of the character itself, but the >>>>>actress Gina Yashere is meant to subert culture. >>>>>https://youtu.be/RSwaTnxuvRk?si=joe_yYqXNjiWlPkM

    According to Memory Alpha, there was a line of dialogue in the Deep
    Space Nine episode "To the Death" that they are all males, but "male" is >>>a sexual characteristic. If the species cannot reproduce, then there are >>>no males.

    Yes, the writer was stupid.

    Well... they're masculine, so doesn't that make them male?

    IMO, they have traits humans categorize as masculine. The word means "of
    or relating to males" at its core, so it doesn't have much meaning out
    of a sexed context.

    I still don't agree. Human masculine characteristics -- ability to fight
    and protect to be appealing to women -- still exist for the purpose of reproduction and successfully raising children, the literal goal of
    raising children. As the Jem'Hadar cannot reproduce and do not raise
    children, their fighting ability was in service to the Dominion and was
    not a masculine characteristic.

    Besides, there are plenty of examples in the animal kingdom in which
    females may fight, especially to protect the young. Human male and
    female characterists translate poorly onto other species.

    I go back to my earlier observation that television writers are stupid.

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Aug 7 16:40:57 2025
    On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 13:00:22 -0700, Melissa Hollingsworth <[email protected]> wrote:

    Yet another odd thing about the Star Trek universe was how closely
    analogous most species are to humans. Almost all of them came in male
    and female.

    Though probably the two best known aliens of the original series were
    the Horta (definitely non-human) and the Orions (green red-hot dancing
    girls and their owners)

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Aug 8 08:28:34 2025
    Melissa Hollingsworth <[email protected]> wrote:
    Verily, in article <[email protected]>, did >[email protected] deliver unto us this message:

    On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 13:00:22 -0700, Melissa Hollingsworth
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Yet another odd thing about the Star Trek universe was how closely
    analogous most species are to humans. Almost all of them came in male
    and female.

    Though probably the two best known aliens of the original series were
    the Horta (definitely non-human) and the Orions (green red-hot dancing
    girls and their owners)

    Surely the best-known aliens were Vulcans and Klingons. Even mainstream >people knew about them.

    Surely the Mak'tar and the Thermians

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