I hast succomed to streaming. I feel so dirty.

I've been watching Freevee now that it's going away at the end of
August. They have all 7 seasons of Bosch. I'm going to try to watch all
of it.

I've been enjoying Titus Welliver's low key performance. J. Edgar (Jamie Hector) is a good character and they've made him a good detective. Crate
and Barrel are also good detectives, especially with the paperwork.

The show has plenty of cliches but avoids the one with the bad boss. Amy Aquino, whom I remember from ER, is one of the boys.

Lance Reddick's Irvin Irving is even more ambitious than Cedric Daniels but
not quite as smart.

Really cracked me up that the very distinctive looking character actor
Barry Shabaka Henley was brought in to play a retired RHD detective in
Season 3. I remember his old show from two decades ago fondly.

Madison Lintz as Harry's daughter, also Madison, has a nice rapor with
her father. Season 2 was weaker than the other two seasons.

Four more to go.

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On 2025-07-27 9:03 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

I hast succomed to streaming. I feel so dirty.

I've been watching Freevee now that it's going away at the end of
August. They have all 7 seasons of Bosch. I'm going to try to watch all
of it.

I've been enjoying Titus Welliver's low key performance. J. Edgar (Jamie Hector) is a good character and they've made him a good detective. Crate
and Barrel are also good detectives, especially with the paperwork.

The show has plenty of cliches but avoids the one with the bad boss. Amy Aquino, whom I remember from ER, is one of the boys.

Lance Reddick's Irvin Irving is even more ambitious than Cedric Daniels but not quite as smart.

Really cracked me up that the very distinctive looking character actor
Barry Shabaka Henley was brought in to play a retired RHD detective in
Season 3. I remember his old show from two decades ago fondly.

Madison Lintz as Harry's daughter, also Madison, has a nice rapor with
her father. Season 2 was weaker than the other two seasons.

Four more to go.

Don't forget Bosch: Legacy which ran three more seasons. And Bosch also
puts in a few appearances in the new series Ballard. (Crate and Barrel
also make a cameo in Ballard as does Honey Chandler and Bosch's
operative Mo.)

--
Rhino

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Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:

Don't forget Bosch: Legacy which ran three more seasons. And Bosch also
puts in a few appearances in the new series Ballard. (Crate and Barrel
also make a cameo in Ballard as does Honey Chandler and Bosch's
operative Mo.)

These shows aren't on Freevee so I'm not under deadline to watch.

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On 2025-07-27 9:42 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:

Don't forget Bosch: Legacy which ran three more seasons. And Bosch also
puts in a few appearances in the new series Ballard. (Crate and Barrel
also make a cameo in Ballard as does Honey Chandler and Bosch's
operative Mo.)

These shows aren't on Freevee so I'm not under deadline to watch.

True enough. I just mention the other shows so that if you want the
complete Bosch experience, you know you have to go further than just the
seven seasons of Bosch.

There are also quite a number of Bosch novels by Michael Connelly if you
want to get into those. They were the inspiration for the original
series. I should mention that the novels sometimes kill off characters
that weren't killed off in Bosch or Bosch: Legacy. (I'm thinking of
Honey Chandler in particular.)

--
Rhino

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Adam H. Kerman <[email protected]> wrote:

I hast succomed to streaming. I feel so dirty.

I've been watching Freevee now that it's going away at the end of
August. They have all 7 seasons of Bosch. I'm going to try to watch all
of it.

I've been enjoying Titus Welliver's low key performance. J. Edgar (Jamie Hector) is a good character and they've made him a good detective. Crate
and Barrel are also good detectives, especially with the paperwork.

The show has plenty of cliches but avoids the one with the bad boss. Amy Aquino, whom I remember from ER, is one of the boys.

Lance Reddick's Irvin Irving is even more ambitious than Cedric Daniels but not quite as smart.

Really cracked me up that the very distinctive looking character actor
Barry Shabaka Henley was brought in to play a retired RHD detective in
Season 3. I remember his old show from two decades ago fondly.

Madison Lintz as Harry's daughter, also Madison, has a nice rapor with
her father. Season 2 was weaker than the other two seasons.

Four more to go.

The girlfriend was a police advisor on the show for its entire run, particularly for the actresses playing the female cops.

They recreated the Hollywood Division detective bureau with incredible accuracy. I conducted many an interview in there and I'd be hard pressed to distinguish the real place from the set they built.

Notice it wasn't like most cop shows whose police stations look like NASA Mission Control with LED screens everywhere and touchscreens and holograms.

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BTR1701 <[email protected]d> wrote:

The girlfriend was a police advisor on the show for its entire run, >particularly for the actresses playing the female cops.

Oh cool.

They recreated the Hollywood Division detective bureau with incredible >accuracy. I conducted many an interview in there and I'd be hard pressed to >distinguish the real place from the set they built.

Notice it wasn't like most cop shows whose police stations look like NASA >Mission Control with LED screens everywhere and touchscreens and holograms.

There's uncited trivia at IMDb claiming that it is the police precinct,
they just filmed in there when there were few detectives on shift.

I find it hard to believe that, even in Hollywood, you can just produce
a tv show inside a working police station house.

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On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 05:22:36 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
<[email protected]> wrote:

BTR1701 <[email protected]d> wrote:

The girlfriend was a police advisor on the show for its entire run, >>particularly for the actresses playing the female cops.

Oh cool.

They recreated the Hollywood Division detective bureau with incredible >>accuracy. I conducted many an interview in there and I'd be hard pressed to >>distinguish the real place from the set they built.

Notice it wasn't like most cop shows whose police stations look like NASA >>Mission Control with LED screens everywhere and touchscreens and holograms.

There's uncited trivia at IMDb claiming that it is the police precinct,
they just filmed in there when there were few detectives on shift.

I find it hard to believe that, even in Hollywood, you can just produce
a tv show inside a working police station house.

If for nothing else, just the lighting has to be a hassle. Unless you
are going for a truly real life look I don't see how it could be done
in a working police station.

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On 7/27/2025 11:49 PM, shawn wrote:

On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 05:22:36 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
<[email protected]> wrote:

BTR1701 <[email protected]d> wrote:

The girlfriend was a police advisor on the show for its entire run,
particularly for the actresses playing the female cops.

Oh cool.

They recreated the Hollywood Division detective bureau with incredible
accuracy. I conducted many an interview in there and I'd be hard pressed to >>> distinguish the real place from the set they built.

Notice it wasn't like most cop shows whose police stations look like NASA >>> Mission Control with LED screens everywhere and touchscreens and holograms. >>

There's uncited trivia at IMDb claiming that it is the police precinct,
they just filmed in there when there were few detectives on shift.

I find it hard to believe that, even in Hollywood, you can just produce
a tv show inside a working police station house.

If for nothing else, just the lighting has to be a hassle. Unless you
are going for a truly real life look I don't see how it could be done
in a working police station.

Extra lighting?

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On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 08:04:58 -0700, suzeeq <[email protected]> wrote:

On 7/27/2025 11:49 PM, shawn wrote:

On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 05:22:36 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
<[email protected]> wrote:

BTR1701 <[email protected]d> wrote:

The girlfriend was a police advisor on the show for its entire run,
particularly for the actresses playing the female cops.

Oh cool.

They recreated the Hollywood Division detective bureau with incredible >>>> accuracy. I conducted many an interview in there and I'd be hard pressed to
distinguish the real place from the set they built.

Notice it wasn't like most cop shows whose police stations look like NASA >>>> Mission Control with LED screens everywhere and touchscreens and holograms.

There's uncited trivia at IMDb claiming that it is the police precinct,
they just filmed in there when there were few detectives on shift.

I find it hard to believe that, even in Hollywood, you can just produce
a tv show inside a working police station house.

If for nothing else, just the lighting has to be a hassle. Unless you
are going for a truly real life look I don't see how it could be done
in a working police station.

Extra lighting?

Yes, in a real life setting the lighting is often too dark for the
look the director is going for. So, even in a police station I would
expect them to want more lighting that can be easily moved around.
Something no police station is going to have or want since it would
just get in the way of the job.

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On 2025-07-28 1:22 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

BTR1701 <[email protected]d> wrote:

The girlfriend was a police advisor on the show for its entire run,
particularly for the actresses playing the female cops.

Oh cool.

They recreated the Hollywood Division detective bureau with incredible
accuracy. I conducted many an interview in there and I'd be hard pressed to >> distinguish the real place from the set they built.

Notice it wasn't like most cop shows whose police stations look like NASA
Mission Control with LED screens everywhere and touchscreens and holograms.

There's uncited trivia at IMDb claiming that it is the police precinct,
they just filmed in there when there were few detectives on shift.

I find it hard to believe that, even in Hollywood, you can just produce
a tv show inside a working police station house.

I'm sure I saw a claim that they used the real station house for the
first season or two but it became too difficult after that so they built
a new set that was a clone of the actual station house for the remaining seasons. I have no idea if that is true.

--
Rhino

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On 27 Jul 2025, Rhino <[email protected]> wrote in
rec.arts.tv:

Don't forget Bosch: Legacy which ran three more seasons. And Bosch
also puts in a few appearances in the new series Ballard. (Crate
and Barrel also make a cameo in Ballard as does Honey Chandler and
Bosch's operative Mo.)

I love the Bosch books. I found the first Bosch series to be quite entertaining. I dislike Bosch Legacy. It seemed like it was made on a shoestring budget, the stories were dull, they got rid of some of my
favorite characters (to trim the budget, I assume) and they
concentrated way too much on his daughter, who I think is played by a
bad and unappealing actress.

I'll give Ballard a chance one of these days.

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On Jul 27, 2025 at 10:22:36 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <[email protected]>
wrote:

BTR1701 <[email protected]d> wrote:

The girlfriend was a police advisor on the show for its entire run,
particularly for the actresses playing the female cops.

Oh cool.

They recreated the Hollywood Division detective bureau with incredible
accuracy. I conducted many an interview in there and I'd be hard pressed to >> distinguish the real place from the set they built.

Notice it wasn't like most cop shows whose police stations look like NASA
Mission Control with LED screens everywhere and touchscreens and holograms.

There's uncited trivia at IMDb claiming that it is the police precinct,
they just filmed in there when there were few detectives on shift.

I find it hard to believe that, even in Hollywood, you can just produce
a tv show inside a working police station house.

No, that's completely wrong. The producers were given some time on a weekend
to go in and photograph the place from every angle, take measurements, etc. Then they recreated it down to the last detail on a soundstage.

There is no time when an entire film crew operating in their midst wouldn't seriously impede their ability to conduct business.

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BTR1701 <[email protected]> wrote:

Jul 27, 2025 at 10:22:36 PM PDT, Adam H. Kerman <[email protected]>:

BTR1701 <[email protected]d> wrote:

The girlfriend was a police advisor on the show for its entire run, >>>particularly for the actresses playing the female cops.

Oh cool.

They recreated the Hollywood Division detective bureau with incredible >>>accuracy. I conducted many an interview in there and I'd be hard pressed to >>>distinguish the real place from the set they built.

Notice it wasn't like most cop shows whose police stations look like NASA >>>Mission Control with LED screens everywhere and touchscreens and holograms.

There's uncited trivia at IMDb claiming that it is the police precinct, >>they just filmed in there when there were few detectives on shift.

I find it hard to believe that, even in Hollywood, you can just produce
a tv show inside a working police station house.

No, that's completely wrong. The producers were given some time on a weekend >to go in and photograph the place from every angle, take measurements, etc. >Then they recreated it down to the last detail on a soundstage.

That sounds reasonable.

There is no time when an entire film crew operating in their midst wouldn't >seriously impede their ability to conduct business.

They must have sent a sample of Nick Yemana's coffee for analysis to
accurately recreate the chemical content for proper police station
coffee.

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Adam H. Kerman <[email protected]> wrote:

I hast succomed to streaming. I feel so dirty.

I've been watching Freevee now that it's going away at the end of
August. They have all 7 seasons of Bosch. I'm going to try to watch all
of it.

I've been enjoying Titus Welliver's low key performance. J. Edgar (Jamie >Hector) is a good character and they've made him a good detective. Crate
and Barrel are also good detectives, especially with the paperwork.

The show has plenty of cliches but avoids the one with the bad boss. Amy >Aquino, whom I remember from ER, is one of the boys.

Lance Reddick's Irvin Irving is even more ambitious than Cedric Daniels but >not quite as smart.

Really cracked me up that the very distinctive looking character actor
Barry Shabaka Henley was brought in to play a retired RHD detective in
Season 3. I remember his old show from two decades ago fondly.

Madison Lintz as Harry's daughter, also Madison, has a nice rapor with
her father. Season 2 was weaker than the other two seasons.

Four more to go.

I have finished all 7 seasons of Bosch and 3 seasons of Bosch: Legacy.

There were plenty of cliched plots but the dialogue was great, so it was
quite well done. I didn't like that there were two stories in which the
bad guy was a high-ranking respected public official, and that both
Irving and Chandler ran for public office.

Huh. It turns out that Chandler was a character in just the one novel,
but a continuing character on Bosch and Bosch: Legacy. There was a
suggestion that she was given Mickey Haller's plots from the novels, but
most of her scenes have got to be newly written for tv, or taken from
other lawyer characters in the novels.

Amazon Prime has rights to the Bosch character, while Netflix has rights
to the Haller character, so the actors won't ever cross over.

I've got to make the observation that on Bosch and Bosch: Legacy,
many times, when an actor playing a recurring character was promoted to main cast, something terrible happened to the character. Wish, Bosch's ex
wife, was murdered. Chandler spent much of season 7 in a coma. Jimmy got assasinated.

They did make use of the police boss as a source of conflict for Bosch,
except for Billets. The other middle management police bosses were
flakes and duds, and in season 7, Irving turned out to be a bad guy,
planting evidence in one case he worked in the past.

I didn't like the rich man looking for his legacy in Bosch: Legacy
season 1. William Devance came out of retirement to play this role,
which I have a feeling will be his last role. I've seen that plot too
many times before. The other legacy was Maddie joining the police force. Actually some of Maddie's plots in Bosch: Legacy were more interesting
than what Bosch worked on.

Once Bosch became a private detective, he lost his constitutional
restraints and broke into a hell of a lot of homes and offices.

I hated Mo, the Penelope character. All those years, Bosch avoided the
instant technology to advance the plot but it was integral to the sequel series.

Crate and Barrel were used almost as often in the sequel series as they
were in the main series.

Surprisingly, the first episode of Ballard showed up on Freevee, so I
watched it, but the rest of the series isn't on Freevee so I'm under no deadline to watch.

Comcast stopped indexing anything on Freevee earlier in August but I
could find series by entering the app first and searching.

As Bosch had commercial breaks, the commercials weren't too bad. Later
seasons had a lot more commercials. Sometimes they actually ran
commercials between acts as opposed to at random times.

I'm all Bosched out. Now just waiting to borrow the Roku stick from the
library to watch Mickey Haller.

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Adam H. Kerman <[email protected]> wrote:

I have finished all 7 seasons of Bosch and 3 seasons of Bosch: Legacy.

Another comment

In Bosch seasons 6 and 7, there were episodes in which Maddie was working
for Chandler. Now, she's not a paralegal and hadn't yet graduated from
college; she was just between years. She had no specialized legal
training. At that point, she was thinking about going into law.

In one episode, she came up with something based on reading stacks of transcripts for a P.I. case Chandler was preparing. Her boss ignored
it, so she took it over his head to Chandler.

She was then told to "Shepardize" it.

Now, I'm familiar with this because I've had to look up case law. I've
used Shephard's Citations and Smith-Hurd from West Publishing. Now, this
was in the '80s and I was doing this for campaign opposition research,
not helping to prepare legal briefs for lawsuits. Law libraries had law
books in massive volumes, all bound in maroon bindings. West had an "on
line" citation service, massively expensive to use, requiring modems to
contact their servers. Law firms paid by the minute. This was never in a campaign's budget.

For decades, Shepard was the only comprehensive citator till West became
a serious competitor in 1980.

Shepard is now one of numerous databases law firms have access to in
their LexisNexis subscription. West isn't hasn't been an American
company since the '90s, and their reporters are no longer produced in
the United States, 'cuz anybody without knowledge can produce a useful
index, sigh.

In another episode, Maddie told Chandler she reviewed a brief or
information or whatever was to be filed with a court and checked
citations. Chandler let her file it.

Oh, for fuck's sake. Even if she were a trained paralegal and excellent
with legal research, an attorney would have to review anything that they
would need to rely upon in court and anything that gets filed.

That annoyed me.

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On Aug 15, 2025 at 5:32:10 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <[email protected]> wrote:

Adam H. Kerman <[email protected]> wrote:

I hast succomed to streaming. I feel so dirty.

I've been watching Freevee now that it's going away at the end of
August. They have all 7 seasons of Bosch. I'm going to try to watch all
of it.

I've been enjoying Titus Welliver's low key performance. J. Edgar (Jamie
Hector) is a good character and they've made him a good detective. Crate
and Barrel are also good detectives, especially with the paperwork.

The show has plenty of cliches but avoids the one with the bad boss. Amy
Aquino, whom I remember from ER, is one of the boys.

Lance Reddick's Irvin Irving is even more ambitious than Cedric Daniels but >> not quite as smart.

Really cracked me up that the very distinctive looking character actor
Barry Shabaka Henley was brought in to play a retired RHD detective in
Season 3. I remember his old show from two decades ago fondly.

Madison Lintz as Harry's daughter, also Madison, has a nice rapor with
her father. Season 2 was weaker than the other two seasons.

Four more to go.

I have finished all 7 seasons of Bosch and 3 seasons of Bosch: Legacy.

There were plenty of cliched plots but the dialogue was great, so it was quite well done. I didn't like that there were two stories in which the
bad guy was a high-ranking respected public official, and that both
Irving and Chandler ran for public office.

That's pretty accurate for L.A. Out of 15 members of the city council, five of them are in various stages of indictment, arrest, trial, or in prison.

Huh. It turns out that Chandler was a character in just the one novel,
but a continuing character on Bosch and Bosch: Legacy. There was a
suggestion that she was given Mickey Haller's plots from the novels, but
most of her scenes have got to be newly written for tv, or taken from
other lawyer characters in the novels.

She was murdered in the books.

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BTR1701 <[email protected]> wrote:

On Aug 15, 2025 at 5:32:10 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <[email protected]> wrote:

Adam H. Kerman <[email protected]> wrote:

I hast succomed to streaming. I feel so dirty.

I've been watching Freevee now that it's going away at the end of
August. They have all 7 seasons of Bosch. I'm going to try to watch all
of it.

I've been enjoying Titus Welliver's low key performance. J. Edgar (Jamie >>> Hector) is a good character and they've made him a good detective. Crate >>> and Barrel are also good detectives, especially with the paperwork.

The show has plenty of cliches but avoids the one with the bad boss. Amy >>> Aquino, whom I remember from ER, is one of the boys.

Lance Reddick's Irvin Irving is even more ambitious than Cedric Daniels but >>> not quite as smart.

Really cracked me up that the very distinctive looking character actor
Barry Shabaka Henley was brought in to play a retired RHD detective in
Season 3. I remember his old show from two decades ago fondly.

Madison Lintz as Harry's daughter, also Madison, has a nice rapor with
her father. Season 2 was weaker than the other two seasons.

Four more to go.

I have finished all 7 seasons of Bosch and 3 seasons of Bosch: Legacy.

There were plenty of cliched plots but the dialogue was great, so it was
quite well done. I didn't like that there were two stories in which the
bad guy was a high-ranking respected public official, and that both
Irving and Chandler ran for public office.

That's pretty accurate for L.A. Out of 15 members of the city council, five of >them are in various stages of indictment, arrest, trial, or in prison.

You aren't going to reach Chicago's level of corruption at that rate. 40 aldermen have been sent to prison.

Huh. It turns out that Chandler was a character in just the one novel,
but a continuing character on Bosch and Bosch: Legacy. There was a
suggestion that she was given Mickey Haller's plots from the novels, but
most of her scenes have got to be newly written for tv, or taken from
other lawyer characters in the novels.

She was murdered in the books.

So Chandler was in more than one novel? Thanks

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