Her entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all students were
told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead of the usual >school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a British flag.
She was an A student but found herself punished for her choice of
clothing - along with other students - and her parents were called to
pick her up early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes]
Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very agitated as >well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they promised to >reconsider how the event was run the next year. I'll believe that when I
see it!
Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:
Rhino, can I please point out that you are discussing a video and
therefore this is on topic discussion? There's no reason to tag this off topic.
Her entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all students were
told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead of the usual
school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a British flag.
She was an A student but found herself punished for her choice of
clothing - along with other students - and her parents were called to
pick her up early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes]
She's such a sweet child. How can any teacher wish to punish her?
This is such a sad story. The girl actually liked school and was
thriving. I hope she learned her lesson but I have no idea what it might
be.
Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very agitated as
well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they promised to
reconsider how the event was run the next year. I'll believe that when I
see it!
A lawsuit needs to be filed against the school administration banning
them from every being within 50 feet of a child.
Her entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all students were
told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead of the usual school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a British flag.
She was an A student but found herself punished for her choice of
clothing - along with other students - and her parents were called to
pick her up early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes]
Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very agitated as well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they promised to reconsider how the event was run the next year. I'll believe that when I
see it!
Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:
Her entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all students were
told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead of the usual
school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a British flag.
She was an A student but found herself punished for her choice of
clothing - along with other students - and her parents were called to
pick her up early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes]
Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very agitated as
well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they promised to
reconsider how the event was run the next year. I'll believe that when I
see it!
I’ve seen that and it wasn’t clear to me if maybe she got punished under a
flag rule. When I was her age, it was illegal to wear clothing made from
the American flag.
Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:
Her entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all students were
told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead of the usual
school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a British flag.
She was an A student but found herself punished for her choice of
clothing - along with other students - and her parents were called to
pick her up early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes]
Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very agitated as
well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they promised to
reconsider how the event was run the next year. I'll believe that when I
see it!
I’ve seen that and it wasn’t clear to me if maybe she got punished under a
flag rule. When I was her age, it was illegal to wear clothing made from
the American flag.
Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:
Her entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all students were
told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead of the usual
school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a British flag.
She was an A student but found herself punished for her choice of
clothing - along with other students - and her parents were called to
pick her up early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes]
Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very agitated as
well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they promised to
reconsider how the event was run the next year. I'll believe that when I
see it!
I’ve seen that and it wasn’t clear to me if maybe she got punished under a
flag rule. When I was her age, it was illegal to wear clothing made from
the American flag.
Her entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all students were
told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead of the usual school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a British flag.
She was an A student but found herself punished for her choice of
clothing - along with other students - and her parents were called to
pick her up early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes]
Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very agitated as well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they promised to reconsider how the event was run the next year. I'll believe that when I
see it!
On 2025-07-16 10:02 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:There's no information in the video that suggests that it is illegal to
Her entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all students were
told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead of the usual >>> school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a British flag. >>> She was an A student but found herself punished for her choice of
clothing - along with other students - and her parents were called to
pick her up early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes]
Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very agitated as >>> well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they promised to >>> reconsider how the event was run the next year. I'll believe that when I >>> see it!
I’ve seen that and it wasn’t clear to me if maybe she got punished under a
flag rule. When I was her age, it was illegal to wear clothing made from
the American flag.
wear clothing containing the British flag. If it is, there are millions
of T-shirts that are in violation of that law. I've seen plenty of
T-shirts celebrating one British band or another over the years that
featured a British flag worn proudly by fans of the band in question.
On 7/16/2025 10:02 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:
Her entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all students were
told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead of the usual >>> school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a British flag. >>> She was an A student but found herself punished for her choice of
clothing - along with other students - and her parents were called to
pick her up early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes]
Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very agitated as >>> well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they promised to >>> reconsider how the event was run the next year. I'll believe that when I >>> see it!
I’ve seen that and it wasn’t clear to me if maybe she got punished under a
flag rule. When I was her age, it was illegal to wear clothing made from
the American flag.
In today's (and yesterday's, and the day before's...) political climate,
it's also possible that she was brandishing an anti-diversity sentiment.
On Jul 16, 2025 at 7:48:38 PM PDT, "Rhino" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-07-16 10:02 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:There's no information in the video that suggests that it is illegal to
Her entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all students were
told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead of the usual >>>> school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a British flag. >>>> She was an A student but found herself punished for her choice of
clothing - along with other students - and her parents were called to
pick her up early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes]
Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very agitated as >>>> well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they promised to >>>> reconsider how the event was run the next year. I'll believe that when I >>>> see it!
I’ve seen that and it wasn’t clear to me if maybe she got punished under a
flag rule. When I was her age, it was illegal to wear clothing made from >>> the American flag.
wear clothing containing the British flag. If it is, there are millions
of T-shirts that are in violation of that law. I've seen plenty of
T-shirts celebrating one British band or another over the years that
featured a British flag worn proudly by fans of the band in question.
Speaking of bands and politics, I just saw this today:
https://ibb.co/j9VVvXpn
The Steve Miller Band has canceled all dates for its 2025 North American tour due to the general trend of climate change-induced weather disasters:
"The combination of extreme heat, unpredictable flooding, tornadoes, hurricanes, and massive forest fires make these risks for you, our audience, the band, and the crew unacceptable."
So basically the band has effectively played their last concert and retired because there's never going to be day in the future where storms and wildfires
don't exist, even if 'climate change' was somehow solved.'
But it's not a cult...
On Jul 16, 2025 at 7:39:40 PM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/16/2025 10:02 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:
Her entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all students were >>>> told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead of the usual >>>> school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a British flag. >>>> She was an A student but found herself punished for her choice of
clothing - along with other students - and her parents were called to >>>> pick her up early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes]
Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very agitated as >>>> well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they promised to >>>> reconsider how the event was run the next year. I'll believe that when I >>>> see it!
I’ve seen that and it wasn’t clear to me if maybe she got punished under a
flag rule. When I was her age, it was illegal to wear clothing made from >>> the American flag.
In today's (and yesterday's, and the day before's...) political climate,
it's also possible that she was brandishing an anti-diversity sentiment.
Which in a country with a 1st Amendment and a robust protection of free speech
can and should never be grounds for discipline. People, even school children, are allowed to have an opinion on issues of public concern that are contrary to those of the strutting martinets who run the school.
(Yes, I know this was England and they don't have a 1st Amendment, though they
do claim to value free speech in theory, even if less and less in practice as time goes on.)
On 7/16/2025 10:02 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:
Her entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all students were
told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead of the usual
school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a British flag. >>> She was an A student but found herself punished for her choice of
clothing - along with other students - and her parents were called to
pick her up early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes]
Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very agitated as >>> well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they promised to >>> reconsider how the event was run the next year. I'll believe that when I >>> see it!
I’ve seen that and it wasn’t clear to me if maybe she got punished
under a
flag rule. When I was her age, it was illegal to wear clothing made from
the American flag.
In today's (and yesterday's, and the day before's...) political climate,
it's also possible that she was brandishing an anti-diversity sentiment.
Even if she wasn't, I'd guess someone assumed she was.
On 2025-07-17 02:02:00 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:
Her entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all students were
told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead of the usual
school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a British flag. >>> She was an A student but found herself punished for her choice of
clothing - along with other students - and her parents were called to
pick her up early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes]
Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very agitated as >>> well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they promised to >>> reconsider how the event was run the next year. I'll believe that when I >>> see it!
I’ve seen that and it wasn’t clear to me if maybe she got punished
under a
flag rule. When I was her age, it was illegal to wear clothing made from
the American flag.
No such rule in the UK. The Spice Girls' Ginger Spice has famously worn
a Union Jack dress (two or three different ones) on a few occasions.
Even Union Jack underwear is easily buyable in UK shops.
Reportedly the school also sent home other pupils who had St George's
and Welsh flags. Apparently it is not Politically Correct to display
your country's flag because it might upset some idiot.
BUT the school in the news story above has now been forced to apologise
to the girl and her family (and presumably the other students) and is "reviewing their policies and strentghening staff training". <https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/school-apologises-after-girl-12- punished-for-wearing-union-jack-dress-to-culture-day/ar-AA1IEv8L>
On Jul 16, 2025 at 7:48:38 PM PDT, "Rhino" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-07-16 10:02 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:There's no information in the video that suggests that it is illegal to
Her entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all students were >>>> told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead of the usual >>>> school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a British flag. >>>> She was an A student but found herself punished for her choice of
clothing - along with other students - and her parents were called to >>>> pick her up early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes]
Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very agitated as >>>> well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they promised to >>>> reconsider how the event was run the next year. I'll believe that when I >>>> see it!
I’ve seen that and it wasn’t clear to me if maybe she got punished under a
flag rule. When I was her age, it was illegal to wear clothing made from >>> the American flag.
wear clothing containing the British flag. If it is, there are millions
of T-shirts that are in violation of that law. I've seen plenty of
T-shirts celebrating one British band or another over the years that
featured a British flag worn proudly by fans of the band in question.
Speaking of bands and politics, I just saw this today:
https://ibb.co/j9VVvXpn
The Steve Miller Band has canceled all dates for its 2025 North American tour due to the general trend of climate change-induced weather disasters:
"The combination of extreme heat, unpredictable flooding, tornadoes, hurricanes, and massive forest fires make these risks for you, our audience, the band, and the crew unacceptable."
So basically the band has effectively played their last concert and retired because there's never going to be day in the future where storms and wildfires
don't exist, even if 'climate change' was somehow solved.'
But it's not a cult...
On 7/17/2025 1:18 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 16, 2025 at 7:39:40 PM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote: >>
On 7/16/2025 10:02 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:Which in a country with a 1st Amendment and a robust protection of free
Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:
Her entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all students were >>>>> told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead of the usual
school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a British flag.
She was an A student but found herself punished for her choice of >>>>> clothing - along with other students - and her parents were called to >>>>> pick her up early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes]
Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very agitated as
well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they promised to
reconsider how the event was run the next year. I'll believe that when I
see it!
I’ve seen that and it wasn’t clear to me if maybe she got punished under a
flag rule. When I was her age, it was illegal to wear clothing made from
the American flag.
In today's (and yesterday's, and the day before's...) political climate, >>> it's also possible that she was brandishing an anti-diversity sentiment. >>
speech
can and should never be grounds for discipline. People, even school
children,
are allowed to have an opinion on issues of public concern that are contrary
to those of the strutting martinets who run the school.
(Yes, I know this was England and they don't have a 1st Amendment, though >> they
do claim to value free speech in theory, even if less and less in practice >> as
time goes on.)
Yes, but I continue to hope for a difference between speech to inform
and speech to injure.
On 2025-07-16 10:39 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/16/2025 10:02 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:Did you actually watch the fucking video? They show what she wore and it shouldn't have been "problematic" to anyone unless they had a hate on
Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:
Her entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all students were
told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead of the usual >>>> school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a British
flag.
She was an A student but found herself punished for her choice of
clothing - along with other students - and her parents were called to
pick her up early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes]
Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very
agitated as
well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they
promised to
reconsider how the event was run the next year. I'll believe that
when I
see it!
I’ve seen that and it wasn’t clear to me if maybe she got punished
under a
flag rule. When I was her age, it was illegal to wear clothing made from >>> the American flag.
In today's (and yesterday's, and the day before's...) political
climate, it's also possible that she was brandishing an anti-diversity
sentiment. Even if she wasn't, I'd guess someone assumed she was.
for the UK. Leo also read the speech which she had planned to give which totally embraced diversity and all the other cultures represented at the school. Anyone who found some kind of racism in either is completely demented.
On Jul 17, 2025 at 8:14:18 AM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/17/2025 1:18 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 16, 2025 at 7:39:40 PM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>
On 7/16/2025 10:02 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:Which in a country with a 1st Amendment and a robust protection of free >>> speech
Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:
Her entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all students were >>>>>> told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead of the usual
school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a British flag.
She was an A student but found herself punished for her choice of >>>>>> clothing - along with other students - and her parents were called to
pick her up early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes]
Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very agitated as
well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they promised to
reconsider how the event was run the next year. I'll believe that when I
see it!
I’ve seen that and it wasn’t clear to me if maybe she got punished under a
flag rule. When I was her age, it was illegal to wear clothing made from
the American flag.
In today's (and yesterday's, and the day before's...) political climate, >>>> it's also possible that she was brandishing an anti-diversity sentiment. >>>
can and should never be grounds for discipline. People, even school
children,
are allowed to have an opinion on issues of public concern that are contrary
to those of the strutting martinets who run the school.
(Yes, I know this was England and they don't have a 1st Amendment, though >>> they
do claim to value free speech in theory, even if less and less in practice
as
time goes on.)
Yes, but I continue to hope for a difference between speech to inform
and speech to injure.
And the distinction between the two will be left to the aforementioned martinets to determine, yes?
This is such a sad story. The girl actually liked school and was
thriving. I hope she learned her lesson but I have no idea what it might
be.
Her entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all students were
told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead of the usual >school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a British flag.
She was an A student but found herself punished for her choice of
clothing - along with other students - and her parents were called to
pick her up early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes]
Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very agitated as >well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they promised to >reconsider how the event was run the next year. I'll believe that when I
see it!
(Yes, I know this was England and they don't have a 1st Amendment, though they >do claim to value free speech in theory, even if less and less in practice as >time goes on.)
I’ve seen that and it wasn’t clear to me if maybe she got punished under a >flag rule. When I was her age, it was illegal to wear clothing made from
the American flag.
Did you actually watch the fucking video? They show what she wore and it >shouldn't have been "problematic" to anyone unless they had a hate on
for the UK. Leo also read the speech which she had planned to give which >totally embraced diversity and all the other cultures represented at the >school. Anyone who found some kind of racism in either is completely >demented.
After reconsideration, I'm sure they'll conclude that where they went wrong >was not making it clear from the start that the event doesn't include white >people and/or British history or culture. Next year's flyer will be sure to >make that explicit, with instructions to the white kids to just wear their >normal school uniforms while everyone else dresses up.
Her entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all students were >>>>> told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead of the usual >>>>> school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a British flag.
She was an A student but found herself punished for her choice of
clothing - along with other students - and her parents were called to >>>>> pick her up early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes]
Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very agitated as
well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they promised to
reconsider how the event was run the next year. I'll believe that when I
see it!
Of course, wearing clothing that featured the *English* flag is a whole >different kettle of fish! The flag that we see all the time representing
the UK is an amalgamation of the flags of England, Scotland and Wales
when they were separate countries (that sometimes went to war with one >another) but when they settled all those disputes (more or less) and
merged into the same country, the flag was a merger of the flags of
England, Scotland and Wales. Flying the old flag of England - the St.
George flag - is "problematic" in the UK these days. "Progressives" see
it as representing a coarse nationalism steeped in racism.
I don't know if it is actually illegal to fly the English flag but I
would expect AT LEAST to be soundly scorned by neighbours and passersby
if you do.
Hmm, just out of curiousity, I did another image search for T-shirts
with the *English* flag and got this:
https://www.google.ca/search?q=t-shirts+containing+flag+of+england&udm=2
Thu, 17 Jul 2025 05:18:46 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <[email protected]>:
(Yes, I know this was England and they don't have a 1st Amendment,
though they do claim to value free speech in theory, even if less and
less in practice as time goes on.)
The problem in the UK (and Canada) is not so much "free speech" but
rather whether or not a particular type of speech is OK depending on
what group the observer thinks you belong to.
On the other hand, at least 2 Jewish Canadian MPs are fighting to have
Canada Immigration deny Bob Vylan an entry visa after his UK "Death
deth to the IDF" rant in Britain. (I happen to agree with them as it's
not legal in Canada to call for the death of another person)
On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 23:56:31 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
<[email protected]> wrote:
This is such a sad story. The girl actually liked school and was
thriving. I hope she learned her lesson but I have no idea what it might
be.
The trouble is in the UK the "lesson" is more and more becoming that
there's one rule for immigrants (especially Muslim immigrants) and
native Brits.
And god help the Brit who insists on a difference between properly
landed immigrants and those who just take a boat from France without
legal entrnace to Britain.
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 12:08:45 -0400, Rhino
<[email protected]> wrote:
Her entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all students were >>>>>> told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead of the usual
school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a British flag.
She was an A student but found herself punished for her choice of >>>>>> clothing - along with other students - and her parents were called to >>>>>> pick her up early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes]
Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very agitated as
well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they promised to
reconsider how the event was run the next year. I'll believe that when I
see it!
And if the school had said "you can't wear a flag that way!" you
wouldn't have heard that story - but they didn't and claimed it was anti-everybody NOT born in the UK - and that DID make it a news story.
I saw the picture of her and thought she wore it quite well - and
wasn't at all making it a parody (or a slur against those not British
born) as some have claimed.
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 05:13:51 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <[email protected]>
wrote:
After reconsideration, I'm sure they'll conclude that where they went wrong >> was not making it clear from the start that the event doesn't include white >> people and/or British history or culture. Next year's flyer will be sure to >> make that explicit, with instructions to the white kids to just wear their >> normal school uniforms while everyone else dresses up.What are you saying? That white folks or native Brits don't have a
culture?
On Jul 16, 2025 at 3:33:02 PM PDT, "Rhino" <[email protected]> wrote:
Her entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all students were
told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead of the usual
school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a British flag.
She was an A student but found herself punished for her choice of
clothing - along with other students - and her parents were called to
pick her up early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes]
Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very agitated as
well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they promised to
reconsider how the event was run the next year. I'll believe that when I
see it!
Oh, I'm sure they are truly reconsidering how the event will be run in the future. This time around, the flyer with the instructions for the event said to come dressed in a manner expressing your nationality or family heritage, and didn't exclude white native-born British nationality and heritage.
After reconsideration, I'm sure they'll conclude that where they went wrong was not making it clear from the start that the event doesn't include white people and/or British history or culture. Next year's flyer will be sure to make that explicit, with instructions to the white kids to just wear their normal school uniforms while everyone else dresses up.
On 7/17/2025 1:13 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 16, 2025 at 3:33:02 PM PDT, "Rhino" <[email protected]> >> wrote:
Her entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all students were
told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead of the usual >>> school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a British flag. >>> She was an A student but found herself punished for her choice of
clothing - along with other students - and her parents were called to
pick her up early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes]
Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very agitated as >>> well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they promised to >>> reconsider how the event was run the next year. I'll believe that when I >>> see it!
Oh, I'm sure they are truly reconsidering how the event will be run in the >> future. This time around, the flyer with the instructions for the event said
to come dressed in a manner expressing your nationality or family heritage, >> and didn't exclude white native-born British nationality and heritage.
After reconsideration, I'm sure they'll conclude that where they went wrong >> was not making it clear from the start that the event doesn't include white >> people and/or British history or culture. Next year's flyer will be sure to >> make that explicit, with instructions to the white kids to just wear their >> normal school uniforms while everyone else dresses up.
Or... they could say that, since everyone at the school is daily
surrounded by British culture, the event is meant to showcase a variety
of others.
On Jul 18, 2025 at 1:42:19 PM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/17/2025 1:13 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 16, 2025 at 3:33:02 PM PDT, "Rhino" <[email protected]>
wrote:
Her entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all students were
told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead of the usual >>>> school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a British flag. >>>> She was an A student but found herself punished for her choice of
clothing - along with other students - and her parents were called to >>>> pick her up early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes]
Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very agitated as >>>> well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they promised to >>>> reconsider how the event was run the next year. I'll believe that when I >>>> see it!
Oh, I'm sure they are truly reconsidering how the event will be run in the >>> future. This time around, the flyer with the instructions for the event said
to come dressed in a manner expressing your nationality or family heritage,
and didn't exclude white native-born British nationality and heritage.
After reconsideration, I'm sure they'll conclude that where they went wrong
was not making it clear from the start that the event doesn't include white
people and/or British history or culture. Next year's flyer will be sure to
make that explicit, with instructions to the white kids to just wear their >>> normal school uniforms while everyone else dresses up.
Or... they could say that, since everyone at the school is daily
surrounded by British culture, the event is meant to showcase a variety
of others.
You'd make a wonderful school administrator.
On Jul 18, 2025 at 1:42:19 PM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/17/2025 1:13 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 16, 2025 at 3:33:02 PM PDT, "Rhino" <[email protected]>
wrote:
Her entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all students were >>>> told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead of the usual >>>> school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a British flag. >>>> She was an A student but found herself punished for her choice of
clothing - along with other students - and her parents were called to >>>> pick her up early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes]
Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very agitated as >>>> well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they promised to >>>> reconsider how the event was run the next year. I'll believe that when I >>>> see it!
Oh, I'm sure they are truly reconsidering how the event will be run in the
future. This time around, the flyer with the instructions for the event said
to come dressed in a manner expressing your nationality or family heritage,
and didn't exclude white native-born British nationality and heritage. >>>
After reconsideration, I'm sure they'll conclude that where they went wrong
was not making it clear from the start that the event doesn't include white
people and/or British history or culture. Next year's flyer will be sure to
make that explicit, with instructions to the white kids to just wear their
normal school uniforms while everyone else dresses up.
Or... they could say that, since everyone at the school is daily
surrounded by British culture, the event is meant to showcase a variety
of others.
You'd make a wonderful school administrator.
BTR1701 <[email protected]> wrote:
On Jul 18, 2025 at 1:42:19 PM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/17/2025 1:13 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 16, 2025 at 3:33:02 PM PDT, "Rhino" <[email protected]>
wrote:
Her entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all students were >>>>> told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead of the usual >>>>> school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a British flag.
She was an A student but found herself punished for her choice of
clothing - along with other students - and her parents were called to >>>>> pick her up early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes]
Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very agitated as
well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they promised to
reconsider how the event was run the next year. I'll believe that when I
see it!
Oh, I'm sure they are truly reconsidering how the event will be run in the
future. This time around, the flyer with the instructions for the event said
to come dressed in a manner expressing your nationality or family heritage,
and didn't exclude white native-born British nationality and heritage. >>>>
After reconsideration, I'm sure they'll conclude that where they went wrong
was not making it clear from the start that the event doesn't include white
people and/or British history or culture. Next year's flyer will be sure to
make that explicit, with instructions to the white kids to just wear their
normal school uniforms while everyone else dresses up.
Or... they could say that, since everyone at the school is daily
surrounded by British culture, the event is meant to showcase a variety
of others.
You'd make a wonderful school administrator.
Oh! That's mean.
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 05:13:51 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <[email protected]>
wrote:
After reconsideration, I'm sure they'll conclude that where they went wrong >> was not making it clear from the start that the event doesn't include white >> people and/or British history or culture. Next year's flyer will be sure to >> make that explicit, with instructions to the white kids to just wear their >> normal school uniforms while everyone else dresses up.
What are you saying? That white folks or native Brits don't have a
culture?
Because when I heard the interview with the school that seemed to be
exactly what they were claiming. To which I say "Bollocks!"
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 12:08:45 -0400, Rhino
<[email protected]> wrote:
Her entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all students were >>>>>> told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead of the usual >>>>>> school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a British >>>>>> flag. She was an A student but found herself punished for her choice of >>>>>> clothing - along with other students - and her parents were called to >>>>>> pick her up early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes]
Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very agitated >>>>>> as well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they
promised to reconsider how the event was run the next year. I'll
believe that when I see it!
And if the school had said "you can't wear a flag that way!" you
wouldn't have heard that story - but they didn't and claimed it was anti-everybody NOT born in the UK - and that DID make it a news story.
I saw the picture of her and thought she wore it quite well - and
wasn't at all making it a parody (or a slur against those not British
born) as some have claimed.
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 12:00:16 -0400, Rhino
<[email protected]> wrote:
Did you actually watch the fucking video? They show what she wore and it
shouldn't have been "problematic" to anyone unless they had a hate on
for the UK. Leo also read the speech which she had planned to give which
totally embraced diversity and all the other cultures represented at the
school. Anyone who found some kind of racism in either is completely
demented.
Or more likely a political axe to grind.
On 2025-07-18 09:36:03 +0000, The Horny Goat said:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 12:08:45 -0400, Rhino
<[email protected]> wrote:
Her entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all students were >>>>>>> told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead of the usual
school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a British >>>>>>> flag. She was an A student but found herself punished for her choice of
clothing - along with other students - and her parents were called to >>>>>>> pick her up early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes]
Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very agitated >>>>>>> as well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they >>>>>>> promised to reconsider how the event was run the next year. I'll >>>>>>> believe that when I see it!
And if the school had said "you can't wear a flag that way!" you
wouldn't have heard that story - but they didn't and claimed it was
anti-everybody NOT born in the UK - and that DID make it a news story.
I saw the picture of her and thought she wore it quite well - and
wasn't at all making it a parody (or a slur against those not British
born) as some have claimed.
Not really a problem of being a slur or a parody, but simply that flags themselves are seen by a small number of Politically Correct nutters as having bad symbolism.
For the UK's flag, they stupidly see a sign of the oppression native
people in various countries that the British Empire controlled
centuries ago. Similarly, in America the Confederate flag is stupidly
seen by small number of loud-mouthed nutters as being a symbol of
slavery, so forcing it to be removed from various places, including
replicas of the "Dukes of Hazard" General Lee car (no doubt they also
whined on about the naming of that car).
There are also people who complain about countries like New Zealand and Australia having the Union Jack in the corner of their flag, and trying
to get the flags changed (at one point wasting huge amounts of
tax-payer money on a stupid referendum vote in New Zealand, which
resulted unsurprisingly in NOT changing the flag, but still fools keep
trying to push for a change). Then of course there is the complete
opposite, where the Hawaiian flag has a Union Jack in the corner
depsite now being part of the United States.
On Jul 18, 2025 at 2:17:56 AM PDT, "The Horny Goat" <[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 23:56:31 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
<[email protected]> wrote:
This is such a sad story. The girl actually liked school and was
thriving. I hope she learned her lesson but I have no idea what it might >>> be.
The trouble is in the UK the "lesson" is more and more becoming that
there's one rule for immigrants (especially Muslim immigrants) and
native Brits.
And god help the Brit who insists on a difference between properly
landed immigrants and those who just take a boat from France without
legal entrnace to Britain.
Douglas Murray pointed out that you're damned if you do and damned if you >don't with these things. If the girl shows up dressed honoring her own >culture, she's a white supremacist. If she shows up dressed as another >culture, she'd be condemned for cultural appropriation.
On Jul 18, 2025 at 8:42:18 PM PDT, "Your Name" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-07-18 09:36:03 +0000, The Horny Goat said:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 12:08:45 -0400, Rhino
<[email protected]> wrote:
Her entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all students were >>>>>>>> told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead of the usual
school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a British >>>>>>>> flag. She was an A student but found herself punished for her choice of
clothing - along with other students - and her parents were called to
pick her up early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes]
Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very agitated
as well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they >>>>>>>> promised to reconsider how the event was run the next year. I'll >>>>>>>> believe that when I see it!
And if the school had said "you can't wear a flag that way!" you
wouldn't have heard that story - but they didn't and claimed it was
anti-everybody NOT born in the UK - and that DID make it a news story. >>>
I saw the picture of her and thought she wore it quite well - and
wasn't at all making it a parody (or a slur against those not British
born) as some have claimed.
Not really a problem of being a slur or a parody, but simply that flags
themselves are seen by a small number of Politically Correct nutters as
having bad symbolism.
For the UK's flag, they stupidly see a sign of the oppression native
people in various countries that the British Empire controlled
centuries ago. Similarly, in America the Confederate flag is stupidly
seen by small number of loud-mouthed nutters as being a symbol of
slavery, so forcing it to be removed from various places, including
replicas of the "Dukes of Hazard" General Lee car (no doubt they also
whined on about the naming of that car).
They not only removed it from replicas of the General Lee, they removed it from the *actual* General Lee.
If you take the VIP studio tour at Warner Bros., one of the stops is a display
of various picture cars used in movies and TV shows over the years-- everything from the many incarnations of the Batmobile, to the Scooby Doo Mystery Machine and Austin Powers' Mini Cooper. They also have one of the original DUKES OF HAZZARD General Lees on display,** but with no Confederate flag on the roof, which prompted another guy on the tour to doubt its authenticity. The tour guide told us that he'd been officially instructed to tell people that it was never actually there (even though you can still see hints of it beneath the orange paint) but that the real reason is that studio bowed to political correctness when some guests claimed to be offended by it and decided to rewrite that bit of TV history.
(**There were actually dozens of General Lees used in the show, most of which were destroyed in the various stunts. The one in the museum is the 'hero' car that was kept pristine for closeups.)
So to all those like FPP who claimed they weren't about sanitizing history and
that such things like the Confederate flag are fine if confined to a museums, here's an example of how even museums are pressured to (and cave to) political
correctness.
I'm surprised that even in re-runs of the show itself, they haven't CGI-d- the
flag off the car's roof (or even worse, replaced it with a rainbow flag).
There are also people who complain about countries like New Zealand and
Australia having the Union Jack in the corner of their flag, and trying
to get the flags changed (at one point wasting huge amounts of
tax-payer money on a stupid referendum vote in New Zealand, which
resulted unsurprisingly in NOT changing the flag, but still fools keep
trying to push for a change). Then of course there is the complete
opposite, where the Hawaiian flag has a Union Jack in the corner
depsite now being part of the United States.
A couple of years ago Minnesota decided to change its state flag for the first
time since it was admitted as a state.
Here's the old flag:
https://ibb.co/bjPhytNB
Here's the new flag:
https://ibb.co/nNtkJCwg
A lot of people have remarked how similar the new flag is to the flag of Somalia:
https://ibb.co/k2jVGLZ7
...and how coincidental that is considering how large the Somali immigrant population is in Minnesota and how Ilhan Omar (the congressional representative for Somalia) is nominally from Minnesota.
On Jul 18, 2025 at 2:38:39 AM PDT, "The Horny Goat" <[email protected]> wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 05:13:51 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <[email protected]>
wrote:
After reconsideration, I'm sure they'll conclude that where they went wrong >>> was not making it clear from the start that the event doesn't include white >>> people and/or British history or culture. Next year's flyer will be sure to >>> make that explicit, with instructions to the white kids to just wear their >>> normal school uniforms while everyone else dresses up.What are you saying? That white folks or native Brits don't have a
culture?
No, I'm saying that the 'progressive' leftists running the school want to pretend that Britain doesn't have a culture or at least not one worth celebrating.
On 7/19/2025 2:39 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 18, 2025 at 8:42:18 PM PDT, "Your Name" <[email protected]>
wrote:
On 2025-07-18 09:36:03 +0000, The Horny Goat said:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 12:08:45 -0400, Rhino
<[email protected]> wrote:
And if the school had said "you can't wear a flag that way!" youHer entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all
students were
told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead of >>>>>>>>> the usual
school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a >>>>>>>>> British
flag. She was an A student but found herself punished for her >>>>>>>>> choice of
clothing - along with other students - and her parents were >>>>>>>>> called to
pick her up early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes]
Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very >>>>>>>>> agitated
as well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they >>>>>>>>> promised to reconsider how the event was run the next year. I'll >>>>>>>>> believe that when I see it!
wouldn't have heard that story - but they didn't and claimed it was >>>> anti-everybody NOT born in the UK - and that DID make it a news
story.
I saw the picture of her and thought she wore it quite well - and
wasn't at all making it a parody (or a slur against those not British >>>> born) as some have claimed.
Not really a problem of being a slur or a parody, but simply that flags
themselves are seen by a small number of Politically Correct nutters as
having bad symbolism.
For the UK's flag, they stupidly see a sign of the oppression native
people in various countries that the British Empire controlled
centuries ago. Similarly, in America the Confederate flag is stupidly
seen by small number of loud-mouthed nutters as being a symbol of
slavery, so forcing it to be removed from various places, including
replicas of the "Dukes of Hazard" General Lee car (no doubt they also
whined on about the naming of that car).
They not only removed it from replicas of the General Lee, they
removed it
from the *actual* General Lee.
If you take the VIP studio tour at Warner Bros., one of the stops is a
display
of various picture cars used in movies and TV shows over the years--
everything from the many incarnations of the Batmobile, to the Scooby Doo
Mystery Machine and Austin Powers' Mini Cooper. They also have one of the
original DUKES OF HAZZARD General Lees on display,** but with no
Confederate
flag on the roof, which prompted another guy on the tour to doubt its
authenticity. The tour guide told us that he'd been officially
instructed to
tell people that it was never actually there (even though you can
still see
hints of it beneath the orange paint) but that the real reason is that
studio
bowed to political correctness when some guests claimed to be offended
by it
and decided to rewrite that bit of TV history.
(**There were actually dozens of General Lees used in the show, most
of which
were destroyed in the various stunts. The one in the museum is the
'hero' car
that was kept pristine for closeups.)
So to all those like FPP who claimed they weren't about sanitizing
history and
that such things like the Confederate flag are fine if confined to a
museums,
here's an example of how even museums are pressured to (and cave to)
political
correctness.
I'm surprised that even in re-runs of the show itself, they haven't
CGI-d- the
flag off the car's roof (or even worse, replaced it with a rainbow flag).
There are also people who complain about countries like New Zealand and
Australia having the Union Jack in the corner of their flag, and trying
to get the flags changed (at one point wasting huge amounts of
tax-payer money on a stupid referendum vote in New Zealand, which
resulted unsurprisingly in NOT changing the flag, but still fools keep
trying to push for a change). Then of course there is the complete
opposite, where the Hawaiian flag has a Union Jack in the corner
depsite now being part of the United States.
A couple of years ago Minnesota decided to change its state flag for
the first
time since it was admitted as a state.
Here's the old flag:
https://ibb.co/bjPhytNB
Here's the new flag:
https://ibb.co/nNtkJCwg
A lot of people have remarked how similar the new flag is to the flag of
Somalia:
https://ibb.co/k2jVGLZ7
...and how coincidental that is considering how large the Somali
immigrant
population is in Minnesota and how Ilhan Omar (the congressional
representative for Somalia) is nominally from Minnesota.
Today, the closest verbalization of flag-flying is: "Proud To Be A...",
where the thing one's proud to be was neither earned nor even avoidable.
On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 18:33:02 -0400, Rhino
<[email protected]> wrote:
Her entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all students were
told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead of the usual
school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a British flag.
She was an A student but found herself punished for her choice of
clothing - along with other students - and her parents were called to
pick her up early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes]
Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very agitated as
well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they promised to
reconsider how the event was run the next year. I'll believe that when I
see it!
Yeah I heard about that one too and it seemed to me yet another
example of "Two Tier".
I'd love to have my daughter's opinion on this (she lives in southern England) but she'd probably think I was making politics and she
disagrees with almost all my political opinions.
She >IS< very pleased to live in one of the two electoral districts
(Rhino - I'd normally just say "ridings" but that would confuse
everyone but you and me) in the UK that has a Green party MP.
On 7/17/2025 1:13 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 16, 2025 at 3:33:02 PM PDT, "Rhino"
<[email protected]>
wrote:
Her entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all students were
told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead of the usual
school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a British flag. >>> She was an A student but found herself punished for her choice of
clothing - along with other students - and her parents were called to
pick her up early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes]
Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very agitated as >>> well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they promised to >>> reconsider how the event was run the next year. I'll believe that when I >>> see it!
Oh, I'm sure they are truly reconsidering how the event will be run in
the
future. This time around, the flyer with the instructions for the
event said
to come dressed in a manner expressing your nationality or family
heritage,
and didn't exclude white native-born British nationality and heritage.
After reconsideration, I'm sure they'll conclude that where they went
wrong
was not making it clear from the start that the event doesn't include
white
people and/or British history or culture. Next year's flyer will be
sure to
make that explicit, with instructions to the white kids to just wear
their
normal school uniforms while everyone else dresses up.
Or... they could say that, since everyone at the school is daily
surrounded by British culture, the event is meant to showcase a variety
of others.
On Jul 18, 2025 at 8:42:18 PM PDT, "Your Name" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-07-18 09:36:03 +0000, The Horny Goat said:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 12:08:45 -0400, Rhino
<[email protected]> wrote:
Her entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all students were >>>>>>>> told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead of the usual
school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a British >>>>>>>> flag. She was an A student but found herself punished for her choice of
clothing - along with other students - and her parents were called to >>>>>>>> pick her up early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes]
Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very agitated >>>>>>>> as well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they >>>>>>>> promised to reconsider how the event was run the next year. I'll >>>>>>>> believe that when I see it!
And if the school had said "you can't wear a flag that way!" you
wouldn't have heard that story - but they didn't and claimed it was
anti-everybody NOT born in the UK - and that DID make it a news story.
I saw the picture of her and thought she wore it quite well - and
wasn't at all making it a parody (or a slur against those not British
born) as some have claimed.
Not really a problem of being a slur or a parody, but simply that flags
themselves are seen by a small number of Politically Correct nutters as
having bad symbolism.
For the UK's flag, they stupidly see a sign of the oppression native
people in various countries that the British Empire controlled
centuries ago. Similarly, in America the Confederate flag is stupidly
seen by small number of loud-mouthed nutters as being a symbol of
slavery, so forcing it to be removed from various places, including
replicas of the "Dukes of Hazard" General Lee car (no doubt they also
whined on about the naming of that car).
They not only removed it from replicas of the General Lee, they removed it from the *actual* General Lee.
If you take the VIP studio tour at Warner Bros., one of the stops is a display
of various picture cars used in movies and TV shows over the years-- everything from the many incarnations of the Batmobile, to the Scooby Doo Mystery Machine and Austin Powers' Mini Cooper. They also have one of the original DUKES OF HAZZARD General Lees on display,** but with no Confederate flag on the roof, which prompted another guy on the tour to doubt its authenticity. The tour guide told us that he'd been officially instructed to tell people that it was never actually there (even though you can still see hints of it beneath the orange paint) but that the real reason is that studio bowed to political correctness when some guests claimed to be offended by it and decided to rewrite that bit of TV history.
(**There were actually dozens of General Lees used in the show, most of which were destroyed in the various stunts. The one in the museum is the 'hero' car that was kept pristine for closeups.)
So to all those like FPP who claimed they weren't about sanitizing history and
that such things like the Confederate flag are fine if confined to a museums, here's an example of how even museums are pressured to (and cave to) political
correctness.
I'm surprised that even in re-runs of the show itself, they haven't CGI-d- the
flag off the car's roof (or even worse, replaced it with a rainbow flag).
There are also people who complain about countries like New Zealand and
Australia having the Union Jack in the corner of their flag, and trying
to get the flags changed (at one point wasting huge amounts of
tax-payer money on a stupid referendum vote in New Zealand, which
resulted unsurprisingly in NOT changing the flag, but still fools keep
trying to push for a change). Then of course there is the complete
opposite, where the Hawaiian flag has a Union Jack in the corner
depsite now being part of the United States.
A couple of years ago Minnesota decided to change its state flag for the first
time since it was admitted as a state.
Here's the old flag:
https://ibb.co/bjPhytNB
Here's the new flag:
https://ibb.co/nNtkJCwg
A lot of people have remarked how similar the new flag is to the flag of Somalia:
https://ibb.co/k2jVGLZ7
...and how coincidental that is considering how large the Somali immigrant population is in Minnesota and how Ilhan Omar (the congressional representative for Somalia) is nominally from Minnesota.
On Jul 18, 2025 at 2:17:56 AM PDT, "The Horny Goat" <[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 23:56:31 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
<[email protected]> wrote:
This is such a sad story. The girl actually liked school and was
thriving. I hope she learned her lesson but I have no idea what it might >>> be.
The trouble is in the UK the "lesson" is more and more becoming that
there's one rule for immigrants (especially Muslim immigrants) andE
native Brits.
And god help the Brit who insists on a difference between properly
landed immigrants and those who just take a boat from France without
legal entrnace to Britain.
Douglas Murray pointed out that you're damned if you do and damned if you don't with these things. If the girl shows up dressed honoring her own culture, she's a white supremacist. If she shows up dressed as another culture, she'd be condemned for cultural appropriation.
On 7/19/2025 2:39 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 18, 2025 at 8:42:18 PM PDT, "Your Name" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-07-18 09:36:03 +0000, The Horny Goat said:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 12:08:45 -0400, Rhino
<[email protected]> wrote:
Her entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all students were >>>>>>>>> told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead of the usual
school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a British >>>>>>>>> flag. She was an A student but found herself punished for her choice of
clothing - along with other students - and her parents were called to
pick her up early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes]
Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very agitated
as well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they >>>>>>>>> promised to reconsider how the event was run the next year. I'll >>>>>>>>> believe that when I see it!
And if the school had said "you can't wear a flag that way!" you
wouldn't have heard that story - but they didn't and claimed it was
anti-everybody NOT born in the UK - and that DID make it a news story. >>>>
I saw the picture of her and thought she wore it quite well - and
wasn't at all making it a parody (or a slur against those not British >>>> born) as some have claimed.
Not really a problem of being a slur or a parody, but simply that flags >>> themselves are seen by a small number of Politically Correct nutters as >>> having bad symbolism.
For the UK's flag, they stupidly see a sign of the oppression native
people in various countries that the British Empire controlled
centuries ago. Similarly, in America the Confederate flag is stupidly
seen by small number of loud-mouthed nutters as being a symbol of
slavery, so forcing it to be removed from various places, including
replicas of the "Dukes of Hazard" General Lee car (no doubt they also
whined on about the naming of that car).
They not only removed it from replicas of the General Lee, they removed it >> from the *actual* General Lee.
If you take the VIP studio tour at Warner Bros., one of the stops is a
display
of various picture cars used in movies and TV shows over the years--
everything from the many incarnations of the Batmobile, to the Scooby Doo >> Mystery Machine and Austin Powers' Mini Cooper. They also have one of the >> original DUKES OF HAZZARD General Lees on display,** but with no Confederate
flag on the roof, which prompted another guy on the tour to doubt its
authenticity. The tour guide told us that he'd been officially instructed to
tell people that it was never actually there (even though you can still see >> hints of it beneath the orange paint) but that the real reason is that
studio
bowed to political correctness when some guests claimed to be offended by it
and decided to rewrite that bit of TV history.
(**There were actually dozens of General Lees used in the show, most of
which
were destroyed in the various stunts. The one in the museum is the 'hero' >> car
that was kept pristine for closeups.)
So to all those like FPP who claimed they weren't about sanitizing history >> and
that such things like the Confederate flag are fine if confined to a
museums,
here's an example of how even museums are pressured to (and cave to)
political
correctness.
I'm surprised that even in re-runs of the show itself, they haven't CGI-d- >> the
flag off the car's roof (or even worse, replaced it with a rainbow flag).
They did:
<https://southinpopculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/11403081_10204903151883828_3598410428185521451_n1.jpg>
;-)
There are also people who complain about countries like New Zealand and >>> Australia having the Union Jack in the corner of their flag, and trying >>> to get the flags changed (at one point wasting huge amounts of
tax-payer money on a stupid referendum vote in New Zealand, which
resulted unsurprisingly in NOT changing the flag, but still fools keep
trying to push for a change). Then of course there is the complete
opposite, where the Hawaiian flag has a Union Jack in the corner
depsite now being part of the United States.
A couple of years ago Minnesota decided to change its state flag for the
first
time since it was admitted as a state.
Here's the old flag:
https://ibb.co/bjPhytNB
Here's the new flag:
https://ibb.co/nNtkJCwg
A lot of people have remarked how similar the new flag is to the flag of
Somalia:
https://ibb.co/k2jVGLZ7
...and how coincidental that is considering how large the Somali immigrant >> population is in Minnesota and how Ilhan Omar (the congressional
representative for Somalia) is nominally from Minnesota.
They've had competitions here to design a new New Zealand flag, usually
the same old rubbish of a silver fern, a kiwi (the bird, no the
kiwifruit), or various versions of a koru (a Maori sylished version of
a curled fern frond).
On 2025-07-19 12:27 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/19/2025 2:39 AM, BTR1701 wrote:Once again, you interject an observation that is not on topic or even comprehensible to normal people. I don't know where you come up with
On Jul 18, 2025 at 8:42:18 PM PDT, "Your Name" <[email protected]>
wrote:
On 2025-07-18 09:36:03 +0000, The Horny Goat said:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 12:08:45 -0400, Rhino
<[email protected]> wrote:
And if the school had said "you can't wear a flag that way!" youHer entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all
students were
told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead >>>>>>>>>> of the usual
school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a >>>>>>>>>> British
flag. She was an A student but found herself punished for >>>>>>>>>> her choice of
clothing - along with other students - and her parents were >>>>>>>>>> called to
pick her up early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes] >>>>>>>>>> Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very >>>>>>>>>> agitated
as well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they >>>>>>>>>> promised to reconsider how the event was run the next year. >>>>>>>>>> I'll
believe that when I see it!
wouldn't have heard that story - but they didn't and claimed it was >>>>> anti-everybody NOT born in the UK - and that DID make it a news
story.
I saw the picture of her and thought she wore it quite well - and >>>>> wasn't at all making it a parody (or a slur against those not
British
born) as some have claimed.
Not really a problem of being a slur or a parody, but simply that flags >>>> themselves are seen by a small number of Politically Correct nutters as >>>> having bad symbolism.
For the UK's flag, they stupidly see a sign of the oppression native
people in various countries that the British Empire controlled
centuries ago. Similarly, in America the Confederate flag is stupidly
seen by small number of loud-mouthed nutters as being a symbol of
slavery, so forcing it to be removed from various places, including
replicas of the "Dukes of Hazard" General Lee car (no doubt they also
whined on about the naming of that car).
They not only removed it from replicas of the General Lee, they
removed it
from the *actual* General Lee.
If you take the VIP studio tour at Warner Bros., one of the stops is
a display
of various picture cars used in movies and TV shows over the years--
everything from the many incarnations of the Batmobile, to the Scooby
Doo
Mystery Machine and Austin Powers' Mini Cooper. They also have one of
the
original DUKES OF HAZZARD General Lees on display,** but with no
Confederate
flag on the roof, which prompted another guy on the tour to doubt its
authenticity. The tour guide told us that he'd been officially
instructed to
tell people that it was never actually there (even though you can
still see
hints of it beneath the orange paint) but that the real reason is
that studio
bowed to political correctness when some guests claimed to be
offended by it
and decided to rewrite that bit of TV history.
(**There were actually dozens of General Lees used in the show, most
of which
were destroyed in the various stunts. The one in the museum is the
'hero' car
that was kept pristine for closeups.)
So to all those like FPP who claimed they weren't about sanitizing
history and
that such things like the Confederate flag are fine if confined to a
museums,
here's an example of how even museums are pressured to (and cave to)
political
correctness.
I'm surprised that even in re-runs of the show itself, they haven't
CGI-d- the
flag off the car's roof (or even worse, replaced it with a rainbow
flag).
There are also people who complain about countries like New Zealand and >>>> Australia having the Union Jack in the corner of their flag, and trying >>>> to get the flags changed (at one point wasting huge amounts of
tax-payer money on a stupid referendum vote in New Zealand, which
resulted unsurprisingly in NOT changing the flag, but still fools keep >>>> trying to push for a change). Then of course there is the complete
opposite, where the Hawaiian flag has a Union Jack in the corner
depsite now being part of the United States.
A couple of years ago Minnesota decided to change its state flag for
the first
time since it was admitted as a state.
Here's the old flag:
https://ibb.co/bjPhytNB
Here's the new flag:
https://ibb.co/nNtkJCwg
A lot of people have remarked how similar the new flag is to the flag of >>> Somalia:
https://ibb.co/k2jVGLZ7
...and how coincidental that is considering how large the Somali
immigrant
population is in Minnesota and how Ilhan Omar (the congressional
representative for Somalia) is nominally from Minnesota.
Today, the closest verbalization of flag-flying is: "Proud To Be
A...", where the thing one's proud to be was neither earned nor even
avoidable.
these. I can only assume this is some bizarre way of proving how wise
and worldly you think you are.
On 2025-07-18 4:42 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/17/2025 1:13 AM, BTR1701 wrote:So, every culture is to be celebrated EXCEPT that of the host country
On Jul 16, 2025 at 3:33:02 PM PDT, "Rhino"
<[email protected]>
wrote:
Her entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all students were
told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead of the usual >>>> school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a British
flag.
She was an A student but found herself punished for her choice of
clothing - along with other students - and her parents were called to
pick her up early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes]
Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very
agitated as
well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they
promised to
reconsider how the event was run the next year. I'll believe that
when I
see it!
Oh, I'm sure they are truly reconsidering how the event will be run
in the
future. This time around, the flyer with the instructions for the
event said
to come dressed in a manner expressing your nationality or family
heritage,
and didn't exclude white native-born British nationality and heritage.
After reconsideration, I'm sure they'll conclude that where they went
wrong
was not making it clear from the start that the event doesn't include
white
people and/or British history or culture. Next year's flyer will be
sure to
make that explicit, with instructions to the white kids to just wear
their
normal school uniforms while everyone else dresses up.
Or... they could say that, since everyone at the school is daily
surrounded by British culture, the event is meant to showcase a
variety of others.
which welcomed all the others to their country.
On 7/19/2025 6:16 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2025-07-19 12:27 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/19/2025 2:39 AM, BTR1701 wrote:Once again, you interject an observation that is not on topic or even
On Jul 18, 2025 at 8:42:18 PM PDT, "Your Name" <[email protected]> >>>> wrote:
On 2025-07-18 09:36:03 +0000, The Horny Goat said:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 12:08:45 -0400, Rhino
<[email protected]> wrote:
And if the school had said "you can't wear a flag that way!" you >>>>>> wouldn't have heard that story - but they didn't and claimed it was >>>>>> anti-everybody NOT born in the UK - and that DID make it a news >>>>>> story.Her entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all >>>>>>>>>>> students were
told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead >>>>>>>>>>> of the usual
school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a >>>>>>>>>>> British
flag. She was an A student but found herself punished for >>>>>>>>>>> her choice of
clothing - along with other students - and her parents were >>>>>>>>>>> called to
pick her up early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes] >>>>>>>>>>> Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very >>>>>>>>>>> agitated
as well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they >>>>>>>>>>> promised to reconsider how the event was run the next year. >>>>>>>>>>> I'll
believe that when I see it!
I saw the picture of her and thought she wore it quite well - and >>>>>> wasn't at all making it a parody (or a slur against those not
British
born) as some have claimed.
Not really a problem of being a slur or a parody, but simply that flags >>>>> themselves are seen by a small number of Politically Correct nutters as >>>>> having bad symbolism.
For the UK's flag, they stupidly see a sign of the oppression native >>>>> people in various countries that the British Empire controlled
centuries ago. Similarly, in America the Confederate flag is stupidly >>>>> seen by small number of loud-mouthed nutters as being a symbol of
slavery, so forcing it to be removed from various places, including >>>>> replicas of the "Dukes of Hazard" General Lee car (no doubt they also >>>>> whined on about the naming of that car).
They not only removed it from replicas of the General Lee, they
removed it
from the *actual* General Lee.
If you take the VIP studio tour at Warner Bros., one of the stops is
a display
of various picture cars used in movies and TV shows over the years--
everything from the many incarnations of the Batmobile, to the Scooby >>>> Doo
Mystery Machine and Austin Powers' Mini Cooper. They also have one of >>>> the
original DUKES OF HAZZARD General Lees on display,** but with no
Confederate
flag on the roof, which prompted another guy on the tour to doubt its >>>> authenticity. The tour guide told us that he'd been officially
instructed to
tell people that it was never actually there (even though you can
still see
hints of it beneath the orange paint) but that the real reason is
that studio
bowed to political correctness when some guests claimed to be
offended by it
and decided to rewrite that bit of TV history.
(**There were actually dozens of General Lees used in the show, most
of which
were destroyed in the various stunts. The one in the museum is the
'hero' car
that was kept pristine for closeups.)
So to all those like FPP who claimed they weren't about sanitizing
history and
that such things like the Confederate flag are fine if confined to a
museums,
here's an example of how even museums are pressured to (and cave to)
political
correctness.
I'm surprised that even in re-runs of the show itself, they haven't
CGI-d- the
flag off the car's roof (or even worse, replaced it with a rainbow
flag).
There are also people who complain about countries like New Zealand and >>>>> Australia having the Union Jack in the corner of their flag, and trying >>>>> to get the flags changed (at one point wasting huge amounts of
tax-payer money on a stupid referendum vote in New Zealand, which
resulted unsurprisingly in NOT changing the flag, but still fools keep >>>>> trying to push for a change). Then of course there is the complete
opposite, where the Hawaiian flag has a Union Jack in the corner
depsite now being part of the United States.
A couple of years ago Minnesota decided to change its state flag for
the first
time since it was admitted as a state.
Here's the old flag:
https://ibb.co/bjPhytNB
Here's the new flag:
https://ibb.co/nNtkJCwg
A lot of people have remarked how similar the new flag is to the flag of >>>> Somalia:
https://ibb.co/k2jVGLZ7
...and how coincidental that is considering how large the Somali
immigrant
population is in Minnesota and how Ilhan Omar (the congressional
representative for Somalia) is nominally from Minnesota.
Today, the closest verbalization of flag-flying is: "Proud To Be
A...", where the thing one's proud to be was neither earned nor even
avoidable.
comprehensible to normal people. I don't know where you come up with
these. I can only assume this is some bizarre way of proving how wise
and worldly you think you are.
Example: Someone who's "proud to be an American" likely had little
choice in the matter and thus has little basis for pride.
On Jul 20, 2025 at 8:08:39 AM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/19/2025 6:16 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2025-07-19 12:27 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/19/2025 2:39 AM, BTR1701 wrote:Once again, you interject an observation that is not on topic or even
On Jul 18, 2025 at 8:42:18 PM PDT, "Your Name" <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote:
On 2025-07-18 09:36:03 +0000, The Horny Goat said:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 12:08:45 -0400, Rhino
<[email protected]> wrote:
And if the school had said "you can't wear a flag that way!" you >>>>>>> wouldn't have heard that story - but they didn't and claimed it wasHer entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all >>>>>>>>>>>> students were
told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead >>>>>>>>>>>> of the usual
school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a >>>>>>>>>>>> British
flag. She was an A student but found herself punished for >>>>>>>>>>>> her choice of
clothing - along with other students - and her parents were >>>>>>>>>>>> called to
pick her up early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes] >>>>>>>>>>>> Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very >>>>>>>>>>>> agitated
as well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they
promised to reconsider how the event was run the next year. >>>>>>>>>>>> I'll
believe that when I see it!
anti-everybody NOT born in the UK - and that DID make it a news >>>>>>> story.
I saw the picture of her and thought she wore it quite well - and >>>>>>> wasn't at all making it a parody (or a slur against those not >>>>>>> British
born) as some have claimed.
Not really a problem of being a slur or a parody, but simply that flags
themselves are seen by a small number of Politically Correct nutters as
having bad symbolism.
For the UK's flag, they stupidly see a sign of the oppression native >>>>>> people in various countries that the British Empire controlled
centuries ago. Similarly, in America the Confederate flag is stupidly >>>>>> seen by small number of loud-mouthed nutters as being a symbol of >>>>>> slavery, so forcing it to be removed from various places, including >>>>>> replicas of the "Dukes of Hazard" General Lee car (no doubt they also >>>>>> whined on about the naming of that car).
They not only removed it from replicas of the General Lee, they
removed it
from the *actual* General Lee.
If you take the VIP studio tour at Warner Bros., one of the stops is >>>>> a display
of various picture cars used in movies and TV shows over the years-- >>>>> everything from the many incarnations of the Batmobile, to the Scooby >>>>> Doo
Mystery Machine and Austin Powers' Mini Cooper. They also have one of >>>>> the
original DUKES OF HAZZARD General Lees on display,** but with no
Confederate
flag on the roof, which prompted another guy on the tour to doubt its >>>>> authenticity. The tour guide told us that he'd been officially
instructed to
tell people that it was never actually there (even though you can
still see
hints of it beneath the orange paint) but that the real reason is
that studio
bowed to political correctness when some guests claimed to be
offended by it
and decided to rewrite that bit of TV history.
(**There were actually dozens of General Lees used in the show, most >>>>> of which
were destroyed in the various stunts. The one in the museum is the >>>>> 'hero' car
that was kept pristine for closeups.)
So to all those like FPP who claimed they weren't about sanitizing >>>>> history and
that such things like the Confederate flag are fine if confined to a >>>>> museums,
here's an example of how even museums are pressured to (and cave to) >>>>> political
correctness.
I'm surprised that even in re-runs of the show itself, they haven't >>>>> CGI-d- the
flag off the car's roof (or even worse, replaced it with a rainbow >>>>> flag).
There are also people who complain about countries like New Zealand and
Australia having the Union Jack in the corner of their flag, and trying
to get the flags changed (at one point wasting huge amounts of
tax-payer money on a stupid referendum vote in New Zealand, which >>>>>> resulted unsurprisingly in NOT changing the flag, but still fools keep >>>>>> trying to push for a change). Then of course there is the complete >>>>>> opposite, where the Hawaiian flag has a Union Jack in the corner >>>>>> depsite now being part of the United States.
A couple of years ago Minnesota decided to change its state flag for >>>>> the first
time since it was admitted as a state.
Here's the old flag:
https://ibb.co/bjPhytNB
Here's the new flag:
https://ibb.co/nNtkJCwg
A lot of people have remarked how similar the new flag is to the flag of
Somalia:
https://ibb.co/k2jVGLZ7
...and how coincidental that is considering how large the Somali
immigrant
population is in Minnesota and how Ilhan Omar (the congressional
representative for Somalia) is nominally from Minnesota.
Today, the closest verbalization of flag-flying is: "Proud To Be
A...", where the thing one's proud to be was neither earned nor even >>>> avoidable.
comprehensible to normal people. I don't know where you come up with
these. I can only assume this is some bizarre way of proving how wise
and worldly you think you are.
Example: Someone who's "proud to be an American" likely had little
choice in the matter and thus has little basis for pride.
Of course they have a choice. No one's stopping anyone from leaving and renouncing their citizenship.
On 7/20/2025 1:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 20, 2025 at 8:08:39 AM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote: >>
On 7/19/2025 6:16 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2025-07-19 12:27 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/19/2025 2:39 AM, BTR1701 wrote:Once again, you interject an observation that is not on topic or even >>>> comprehensible to normal people. I don't know where you come up with >>>> these. I can only assume this is some bizarre way of proving how wise >>>> and worldly you think you are.
On Jul 18, 2025 at 8:42:18 PM PDT, "Your Name" <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote:
On 2025-07-18 09:36:03 +0000, The Horny Goat said:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 12:08:45 -0400, Rhino
<[email protected]> wrote:
And if the school had said "you can't wear a flag that way!" you >>>>>>>> wouldn't have heard that story - but they didn't and claimed it wasHer entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all >>>>>>>>>>>>> students were
told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead >>>>>>>>>>>>> of the usual
school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a >>>>>>>>>>>>> British
flag. She was an A student but found herself punished for >>>>>>>>>>>>> her choice of
clothing - along with other students - and her parents were >>>>>>>>>>>>> called to
pick her up early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes] >>>>>>>>>>>>> Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very
agitated
as well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they
promised to reconsider how the event was run the next year. >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll
believe that when I see it!
anti-everybody NOT born in the UK - and that DID make it a news >>>>>>>> story.
I saw the picture of her and thought she wore it quite well - and
wasn't at all making it a parody (or a slur against those not >>>>>>>> British
born) as some have claimed.
Not really a problem of being a slur or a parody, but simply that flags
themselves are seen by a small number of Politically Correct nutters as
having bad symbolism.
For the UK's flag, they stupidly see a sign of the oppression native >>>>>>> people in various countries that the British Empire controlled >>>>>>> centuries ago. Similarly, in America the Confederate flag is stupidly
seen by small number of loud-mouthed nutters as being a symbol of >>>>>>> slavery, so forcing it to be removed from various places, including >>>>>>> replicas of the "Dukes of Hazard" General Lee car (no doubt they also
whined on about the naming of that car).
They not only removed it from replicas of the General Lee, they >>>>>> removed it
from the *actual* General Lee.
If you take the VIP studio tour at Warner Bros., one of the stops is >>>>>> a display
of various picture cars used in movies and TV shows over the years-- >>>>>> everything from the many incarnations of the Batmobile, to the Scooby >>>>>> Doo
Mystery Machine and Austin Powers' Mini Cooper. They also have one of >>>>>> the
original DUKES OF HAZZARD General Lees on display,** but with no >>>>>> Confederate
flag on the roof, which prompted another guy on the tour to doubt its >>>>>> authenticity. The tour guide told us that he'd been officially
instructed to
tell people that it was never actually there (even though you can >>>>>> still see
hints of it beneath the orange paint) but that the real reason is >>>>>> that studio
bowed to political correctness when some guests claimed to be
offended by it
and decided to rewrite that bit of TV history.
(**There were actually dozens of General Lees used in the show, most >>>>>> of which
were destroyed in the various stunts. The one in the museum is the >>>>>> 'hero' car
that was kept pristine for closeups.)
So to all those like FPP who claimed they weren't about sanitizing >>>>>> history and
that such things like the Confederate flag are fine if confined to a >>>>>> museums,
here's an example of how even museums are pressured to (and cave to) >>>>>> political
correctness.
I'm surprised that even in re-runs of the show itself, they haven't >>>>>> CGI-d- the
flag off the car's roof (or even worse, replaced it with a rainbow >>>>>> flag).
There are also people who complain about countries like New Zealand and
Australia having the Union Jack in the corner of their flag, and trying
to get the flags changed (at one point wasting huge amounts of >>>>>>> tax-payer money on a stupid referendum vote in New Zealand, which >>>>>>> resulted unsurprisingly in NOT changing the flag, but still fools keep
trying to push for a change). Then of course there is the complete >>>>>>> opposite, where the Hawaiian flag has a Union Jack in the corner >>>>>>> depsite now being part of the United States.
A couple of years ago Minnesota decided to change its state flag for >>>>>> the first
time since it was admitted as a state.
Here's the old flag:
https://ibb.co/bjPhytNB
Here's the new flag:
https://ibb.co/nNtkJCwg
A lot of people have remarked how similar the new flag is to the flag of
Somalia:
https://ibb.co/k2jVGLZ7
...and how coincidental that is considering how large the Somali >>>>>> immigrant
population is in Minnesota and how Ilhan Omar (the congressional >>>>>> representative for Somalia) is nominally from Minnesota.
Today, the closest verbalization of flag-flying is: "Proud To Be
A...", where the thing one's proud to be was neither earned nor even >>>>> avoidable.
Example: Someone who's "proud to be an American" likely had little
choice in the matter and thus has little basis for pride.
Of course they have a choice. No one's stopping anyone from leaving and
renouncing their citizenship.
"...had..."
Jul 20, 2025 at 8:08:39 AM PDT, moviePig <[email protected]> wrote:
. . .
Example: Someone who's "proud to be an American" likely had little
choice in the matter and thus has little basis for pride.
Of course they have a choice. No one's stopping anyone from leaving and >renouncing their citizenship.
On Jul 20, 2025 at 11:20:16 AM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/20/2025 1:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 20, 2025 at 8:08:39 AM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>
On 7/19/2025 6:16 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2025-07-19 12:27 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/19/2025 2:39 AM, BTR1701 wrote:Once again, you interject an observation that is not on topic or even >>>>> comprehensible to normal people. I don't know where you come up with >>>>> these. I can only assume this is some bizarre way of proving how wise >>>>> and worldly you think you are.
On Jul 18, 2025 at 8:42:18 PM PDT, "Your Name" <[email protected]>
wrote:
On 2025-07-18 09:36:03 +0000, The Horny Goat said:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 12:08:45 -0400, Rhino
<[email protected]> wrote:
And if the school had said "you can't wear a flag that way!" youHer entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all >>>>>>>>>>>>>> students were
told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead
of the usual
school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a
British
flag. She was an A student but found herself punished for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> her choice of
clothing - along with other students - and her parents were
called to
pick her up early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very
agitated
as well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they
promised to reconsider how the event was run the next year.
I'll
believe that when I see it!
wouldn't have heard that story - but they didn't and claimed it was
anti-everybody NOT born in the UK - and that DID make it a news
story.
I saw the picture of her and thought she wore it quite well - and
wasn't at all making it a parody (or a slur against those not >>>>>>>>> British
born) as some have claimed.
Not really a problem of being a slur or a parody, but simply that flags
themselves are seen by a small number of Politically Correct nutters as
having bad symbolism.
For the UK's flag, they stupidly see a sign of the oppression native
people in various countries that the British Empire controlled >>>>>>>> centuries ago. Similarly, in America the Confederate flag is stupidly
seen by small number of loud-mouthed nutters as being a symbol of >>>>>>>> slavery, so forcing it to be removed from various places, including
replicas of the "Dukes of Hazard" General Lee car (no doubt they also
whined on about the naming of that car).
They not only removed it from replicas of the General Lee, they >>>>>>> removed it
from the *actual* General Lee.
If you take the VIP studio tour at Warner Bros., one of the stops is
a display
of various picture cars used in movies and TV shows over the years--
everything from the many incarnations of the Batmobile, to the Scooby
Doo
Mystery Machine and Austin Powers' Mini Cooper. They also have one of
the
original DUKES OF HAZZARD General Lees on display,** but with no >>>>>>> Confederate
flag on the roof, which prompted another guy on the tour to doubt its
authenticity. The tour guide told us that he'd been officially >>>>>>> instructed to
tell people that it was never actually there (even though you can >>>>>>> still see
hints of it beneath the orange paint) but that the real reason is >>>>>>> that studio
bowed to political correctness when some guests claimed to be >>>>>>> offended by it
and decided to rewrite that bit of TV history.
(**There were actually dozens of General Lees used in the show, most
of which
were destroyed in the various stunts. The one in the museum is the >>>>>>> 'hero' car
that was kept pristine for closeups.)
So to all those like FPP who claimed they weren't about sanitizing >>>>>>> history and
that such things like the Confederate flag are fine if confined to a
museums,
here's an example of how even museums are pressured to (and cave to)
political
correctness.
I'm surprised that even in re-runs of the show itself, they haven't >>>>>>> CGI-d- the
flag off the car's roof (or even worse, replaced it with a rainbow >>>>>>> flag).
There are also people who complain about countries like New Zealand and
Australia having the Union Jack in the corner of their flag, and trying
to get the flags changed (at one point wasting huge amounts of >>>>>>>> tax-payer money on a stupid referendum vote in New Zealand, which >>>>>>>> resulted unsurprisingly in NOT changing the flag, but still fools keep
trying to push for a change). Then of course there is the complete >>>>>>>> opposite, where the Hawaiian flag has a Union Jack in the corner >>>>>>>> depsite now being part of the United States.
A couple of years ago Minnesota decided to change its state flag for
the first
time since it was admitted as a state.
Here's the old flag:
https://ibb.co/bjPhytNB
Here's the new flag:
https://ibb.co/nNtkJCwg
A lot of people have remarked how similar the new flag is to the flag of
Somalia:
https://ibb.co/k2jVGLZ7
...and how coincidental that is considering how large the Somali >>>>>>> immigrant
population is in Minnesota and how Ilhan Omar (the congressional >>>>>>> representative for Somalia) is nominally from Minnesota.
Today, the closest verbalization of flag-flying is: "Proud To Be >>>>>> A...", where the thing one's proud to be was neither earned nor even >>>>>> avoidable.
Example: Someone who's "proud to be an American" likely had little
choice in the matter and thus has little basis for pride.
Of course they have a choice. No one's stopping anyone from leaving and >>> renouncing their citizenship.
"...had..."
No one was stopping anyone from leaving and renouncing their citizenship in the past, either.
On 7/20/2025 2:21 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 20, 2025 at 11:20:16 AM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote: >>
On 7/20/2025 1:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 20, 2025 at 8:08:39 AM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>
On 7/19/2025 6:16 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2025-07-19 12:27 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/19/2025 2:39 AM, BTR1701 wrote:Once again, you interject an observation that is not on topic or even >>>>>> comprehensible to normal people. I don't know where you come up with >>>>>> these. I can only assume this is some bizarre way of proving how wise >>>>>> and worldly you think you are.
On Jul 18, 2025 at 8:42:18 PM PDT, "Your Name" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote:
On 2025-07-18 09:36:03 +0000, The Horny Goat said:
� On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 12:08:45 -0400, Rhino
� <[email protected]> wrote:
� And if the school had said "you can't wear a flag that way!" you >>>>>>>>>> � wouldn't have heard that story - but they didn't and claimed it was� Her entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> students were
� told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the usual
� school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> British
� flag. She was an A student but found herself punished for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> her choice of
� clothing - along with other students - and her parents were >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> called to
� pick her up early.
� https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> � Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agitated
� as well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they
� promised to reconsider how the event was run the next year. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll
� believe that when I see it!
� anti-everybody NOT born in the UK - and that DID make it a news >>>>>>>>>> story.
� I saw the picture of her and thought she wore it quite well - and >>>>>>>>>> � wasn't at all making it a parody (or a slur against those not >>>>>>>>>> British
� born) as some have claimed.
Not really a problem of being a slur or a parody, but simply that flags
themselves are seen by a small number of Politically Correct nutters as
having bad symbolism.
For the UK's flag, they stupidly see a sign of the oppression native >>>>>>>>> people in various countries that the British Empire controlled >>>>>>>>> centuries ago. Similarly, in America the Confederate flag is stupidly >>>>>>>>> seen by small number of loud-mouthed nutters as being a symbol of >>>>>>>>> slavery, so forcing it to be removed from various places, including >>>>>>>>> replicas of the "Dukes of Hazard" General Lee car (no doubt they also >>>>>>>>> whined on about the naming of that car).
They not only removed it from replicas of the General Lee, they >>>>>>>> removed it
from the *actual* General Lee.
If you take the VIP studio tour at Warner Bros., one of the stops is >>>>>>>> a display
of various picture cars used in movies and TV shows over the years-- >>>>>>>> everything from the many incarnations of the Batmobile, to the Scooby >>>>>>>> Doo
Mystery Machine and Austin Powers' Mini Cooper. They also have one of >>>>>>>> the
original DUKES OF HAZZARD General Lees on display,** but with no >>>>>>>> Confederate
flag on the roof, which prompted another guy on the tour to doubt its >>>>>>>> authenticity. The tour guide told us that he'd been officially >>>>>>>> instructed to
tell people that it was never actually there (even though you can >>>>>>>> still see
hints of it beneath the orange paint) but that the real reason is >>>>>>>> that studio
bowed to political correctness when some guests claimed to be
offended by it
and decided to rewrite that bit of TV history.
(**There were actually dozens of General Lees used in the show, most >>>>>>>> of which
were destroyed in the various stunts. The one in the museum is the >>>>>>>> 'hero' car
that was kept pristine for closeups.)
So to all those like FPP who claimed they weren't about sanitizing >>>>>>>> history and
that such things like the Confederate flag are fine if confined to a >>>>>>>> museums,
here's an example of how even museums are pressured to (and cave to) >>>>>>>> political
correctness.
I'm surprised that even in re-runs of the show itself, they haven't >>>>>>>> CGI-d- the
flag off the car's roof (or even worse, replaced it with a rainbow >>>>>>>> flag).
There are also people who complain about countries like New Zealand and
Australia having the Union Jack in the corner of their flag, and trying
to get the flags changed (at one point wasting huge amounts of >>>>>>>>> tax-payer money on a stupid referendum vote in New Zealand, which >>>>>>>>> resulted unsurprisingly in NOT changing the flag, but still fools keep
trying to push for a change). Then of course there is the complete >>>>>>>>> opposite, where the Hawaiian flag has a Union Jack in the corner >>>>>>>>> depsite now being part of the United States.
A couple of years ago Minnesota decided to change its state flag for >>>>>>>> the first
time since it was admitted as a state.
Here's the old flag:
https://ibb.co/bjPhytNB
Here's the new flag:
https://ibb.co/nNtkJCwg
A lot of people have remarked how similar the new flag is to the flag of
Somalia:
https://ibb.co/k2jVGLZ7
...and how coincidental that is considering how large the Somali >>>>>>>> immigrant
population is in Minnesota and how Ilhan Omar (the congressional >>>>>>>> representative for Somalia) is nominally from Minnesota.
Today, the closest verbalization of flag-flying is: "Proud To Be >>>>>>> A...", where the thing one's proud to be was neither earned nor even >>>>>>> avoidable.
Example: Someone who's "proud to be an American" likely had little
choice in the matter and thus has little basis for pride.
Of course they have a choice. No one's stopping anyone from leaving and >>>> renouncing their citizenship.
"...had..."
No one was stopping anyone from leaving and renouncing their citizenship in >> the past, either.
Says little about pride. Most live in the state where they were born.
BTR1701 <[email protected]> wrote:
Jul 20, 2025 at 8:08:39 AM PDT, moviePig <[email protected]> wrote:
. . .
Example: Someone who's "proud to be an American" likely had little
choice in the matter and thus has little basis for pride.
Of course they have a choice. No one's stopping anyone from leaving and
renouncing their citizenship.
moviePig should be living with his Russian counterpart who is proud of
his country for having invaded and started a war with Ukraine. Of
course, he has no Russian counterpart. There's no free media. The war
isn't being discussed publicly and the vast majority of Russians are
unaware of its full extent.
Having pride does not flow from having been born somewhere.
here. Perhaps they aren't so proud of the places they were born.Perhaps they haven't the luxury of affectations such as empty pride.
On 7/20/2025 4:22 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
moviePig <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/20/2025 2:21 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 20, 2025 at 11:20:16 AM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/20/2025 1:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 20, 2025 at 8:08:39 AM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/19/2025 6:16 PM, Rhino wrote:
Once again, you interject an observation that is not on topic or even >>>>>>>> comprehensible to normal people. I don't know where you come up with >>>>>>>> these. I can only assume this is some bizarre way of proving how wise >>>>>>>> and worldly you think you are.
Example: Someone who's "proud to be an American" likely had little >>>>>>> choice in the matter and thus has little basis for pride.
Of course they have a choice. No one's stopping anyone from leaving and >>>>>> renouncing their citizenship.
"...had..."
No one was stopping anyone from leaving and renouncing their citizenship in
the past, either.
Says little about pride. Most live in the state where they were born.
That doesn't mean they have no choice in the matter.
True, if I tell you at gunpoint to eat wasps, you still have a choice...
moviePig <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/20/2025 2:21 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 20, 2025 at 11:20:16 AM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>
On 7/20/2025 1:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 20, 2025 at 8:08:39 AM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>
On 7/19/2025 6:16 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2025-07-19 12:27 PM, moviePig wrote:
On 7/19/2025 2:39 AM, BTR1701 wrote:Once again, you interject an observation that is not on topic or even >>>>>>> comprehensible to normal people. I don't know where you come up with >>>>>>> these. I can only assume this is some bizarre way of proving how wise >>>>>>> and worldly you think you are.
On Jul 18, 2025 at 8:42:18 PM PDT, "Your Name" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
On 2025-07-18 09:36:03 +0000, The Horny Goat said:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 12:08:45 -0400, Rhino
<[email protected]> wrote:
And if the school had said "you can't wear a flag that way!" youHer entire school had a Cultural Diversity Day and all >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> students were
told to wear something celebrating her own culture instead >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the usual
school uniforms so she wore a dress that was essentially a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> British
flag. She was an A student but found herself punished for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> her choice of
clothing - along with other students - and her parents were
called to
pick her up early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2jV5qxE4g [8 minutes] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Her parents were not at all happy and her community was very
agitated
as well. The school gave an after-the-fact "apology" where they
promised to reconsider how the event was run the next year.
I'll
believe that when I see it!
wouldn't have heard that story - but they didn't and claimed it was
anti-everybody NOT born in the UK - and that DID make it a news >>>>>>>>>>> story.
I saw the picture of her and thought she wore it quite well - and
wasn't at all making it a parody (or a slur against those not >>>>>>>>>>> British
born) as some have claimed.
Not really a problem of being a slur or a parody, but simply that flags
themselves are seen by a small number of Politically Correct nutters as
having bad symbolism.
For the UK's flag, they stupidly see a sign of the oppression native >>>>>>>>>> people in various countries that the British Empire controlled >>>>>>>>>> centuries ago. Similarly, in America the Confederate flag is stupidly
seen by small number of loud-mouthed nutters as being a symbol of >>>>>>>>>> slavery, so forcing it to be removed from various places, including >>>>>>>>>> replicas of the "Dukes of Hazard" General Lee car (no doubt they also
whined on about the naming of that car).
They not only removed it from replicas of the General Lee, they >>>>>>>>> removed it
from the *actual* General Lee.
If you take the VIP studio tour at Warner Bros., one of the stops is >>>>>>>>> a display
of various picture cars used in movies and TV shows over the years-- >>>>>>>>> everything from the many incarnations of the Batmobile, to the Scooby >>>>>>>>> Doo
Mystery Machine and Austin Powers' Mini Cooper. They also have one of >>>>>>>>> the
original DUKES OF HAZZARD General Lees on display,** but with no >>>>>>>>> Confederate
flag on the roof, which prompted another guy on the tour to doubt its >>>>>>>>> authenticity. The tour guide told us that he'd been officially >>>>>>>>> instructed to
tell people that it was never actually there (even though you can >>>>>>>>> still see
hints of it beneath the orange paint) but that the real reason is >>>>>>>>> that studio
bowed to political correctness when some guests claimed to be >>>>>>>>> offended by it
and decided to rewrite that bit of TV history.
(**There were actually dozens of General Lees used in the show, most >>>>>>>>> of which
were destroyed in the various stunts. The one in the museum is the >>>>>>>>> 'hero' car
that was kept pristine for closeups.)
So to all those like FPP who claimed they weren't about sanitizing >>>>>>>>> history and
that such things like the Confederate flag are fine if confined to a >>>>>>>>> museums,
here's an example of how even museums are pressured to (and cave to) >>>>>>>>> political
correctness.
I'm surprised that even in re-runs of the show itself, they haven't >>>>>>>>> CGI-d- the
flag off the car's roof (or even worse, replaced it with a rainbow >>>>>>>>> flag).
There are also people who complain about countries like New Zealand and
Australia having the Union Jack in the corner of their flag, and trying
to get the flags changed (at one point wasting huge amounts of >>>>>>>>>> tax-payer money on a stupid referendum vote in New Zealand, which >>>>>>>>>> resulted unsurprisingly in NOT changing the flag, but still fools keep
trying to push for a change). Then of course there is the complete >>>>>>>>>> opposite, where the Hawaiian flag has a Union Jack in the corner >>>>>>>>>> depsite now being part of the United States.
A couple of years ago Minnesota decided to change its state flag for >>>>>>>>> the first
time since it was admitted as a state.
Here's the old flag:
https://ibb.co/bjPhytNB
Here's the new flag:
https://ibb.co/nNtkJCwg
A lot of people have remarked how similar the new flag is to the flag of
Somalia:
https://ibb.co/k2jVGLZ7
...and how coincidental that is considering how large the Somali >>>>>>>>> immigrant
population is in Minnesota and how Ilhan Omar (the congressional >>>>>>>>> representative for Somalia) is nominally from Minnesota.
Today, the closest verbalization of flag-flying is: "Proud To Be >>>>>>>> A...", where the thing one's proud to be was neither earned nor even >>>>>>>> avoidable.
Example: Someone who's "proud to be an American" likely had little >>>>>> choice in the matter and thus has little basis for pride.
Of course they have a choice. No one's stopping anyone from leaving and >>>>> renouncing their citizenship.
"...had..."
No one was stopping anyone from leaving and renouncing their citizenship in >>> the past, either.
Says little about pride. Most live in the state where they were born.
That doesn't mean they have no choice in the matter.
On Jul 20, 2025 at 1:54:01 PM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/20/2025 4:22 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
moviePig <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/20/2025 2:21 PM, BTR1701 wrote:That doesn't mean they have no choice in the matter.
On Jul 20, 2025 at 11:20:16 AM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/20/2025 1:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 20, 2025 at 8:08:39 AM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/19/2025 6:16 PM, Rhino wrote:
Once again, you interject an observation that is not on topic or even
comprehensible to normal people. I don't know where you come up with
these. I can only assume this is some bizarre way of proving how wise
and worldly you think you are.
Example: Someone who's "proud to be an American" likely had little >>>>>>>> choice in the matter and thus has little basis for pride.
Of course they have a choice. No one's stopping anyone from leaving and
renouncing their citizenship.
"...had..."
No one was stopping anyone from leaving and renouncing their citizenship in
the past, either.
Says little about pride. Most live in the state where they were born. >>>
True, if I tell you at gunpoint to eat wasps, you still have a choice...
Yes, because people are being held at gunpoint and prevented from leaving their state of birth.
Great analogy!
On 7/20/2025 5:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 20, 2025 at 1:54:01 PM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote: >>
On 7/20/2025 4:22 PM, BTR1701 wrote:Yes, because people are being held at gunpoint and prevented from leaving >> their state of birth.
moviePig <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/20/2025 2:21 PM, BTR1701 wrote:That doesn't mean they have no choice in the matter.
On Jul 20, 2025 at 11:20:16 AM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/20/2025 1:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 20, 2025 at 8:08:39 AM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/19/2025 6:16 PM, Rhino wrote:
Once again, you interject an observation that is not on topic or even
comprehensible to normal people. I don't know where you come up with
these. I can only assume this is some bizarre way of proving how wise
and worldly you think you are.
Example: Someone who's "proud to be an American" likely had little
choice in the matter and thus has little basis for pride.
Of course they have a choice. No one's stopping anyone from leaving and
renouncing their citizenship.
"...had..."
No one was stopping anyone from leaving and renouncing their
citizenship in
the past, either.
Says little about pride. Most live in the state where they were born. >>>>
True, if I tell you at gunpoint to eat wasps, you still have a choice... >>
Great analogy!
If I'd intended an analogy, "gunpoint" would refer to the enormous inconvenience and stress surrounding a change of citizenship ...
On Jul 21, 2025 at 8:54:31 AM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/20/2025 5:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 20, 2025 at 1:54:01 PM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>
On 7/20/2025 4:22 PM, BTR1701 wrote:Yes, because people are being held at gunpoint and prevented from leaving >>> their state of birth.
moviePig <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/20/2025 2:21 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 20, 2025 at 11:20:16 AM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/20/2025 1:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 20, 2025 at 8:08:39 AM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/19/2025 6:16 PM, Rhino wrote:Of course they have a choice. No one's stopping anyone from leaving and
Once again, you interject an observation that is not on topic or even
comprehensible to normal people. I don't know where you come up with
these. I can only assume this is some bizarre way of proving how wise
and worldly you think you are.
Example: Someone who's "proud to be an American" likely had little
choice in the matter and thus has little basis for pride. >>>>>>>>>
renouncing their citizenship.
"...had..."
No one was stopping anyone from leaving and renouncing their >>>>>>> citizenship in
the past, either.
Says little about pride. Most live in the state where they were born.
That doesn't mean they have no choice in the matter.
True, if I tell you at gunpoint to eat wasps, you still have a choice... >>>
Great analogy!
If I'd intended an analogy, "gunpoint" would refer to the enormous
inconvenience and stress surrounding a change of citizenship ...
So people decide to stay where they because they can't bother. Not because they're forced to.
On 7/21/2025 12:20 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 21, 2025 at 8:54:31 AM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote: >>
On 7/20/2025 5:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 20, 2025 at 1:54:01 PM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/20/2025 4:22 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
moviePig <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/20/2025 2:21 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 20, 2025 at 11:20:16 AM PDT, "moviePig"
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/20/2025 1:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 20, 2025 at 8:08:39 AM PDT, "moviePig"
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/19/2025 6:16 PM, Rhino wrote:Of course they have a choice. No one's stopping anyone from leaving and
Once again, you interject an observation that is not on topic or even
comprehensible to normal people. I don't know where you come up with
these. I can only assume this is some bizarre way of proving how wise
and worldly you think you are.
Example: Someone who's "proud to be an American" likely had little
choice in the matter and thus has little basis for pride. >>>>>>>>>>
renouncing their citizenship.
"...had..."
No one was stopping anyone from leaving and renouncing their >>>>>>>> citizenship in
the past, either.
Says little about pride. Most live in the state where they were born.
That doesn't mean they have no choice in the matter.
True, if I tell you at gunpoint to eat wasps, you still have a choice...
Yes, because people are being held at gunpoint and prevented from leaving
their state of birth.
Great analogy!
If I'd intended an analogy, "gunpoint" would refer to the enormous
inconvenience and stress surrounding a change of citizenship ...
So people decide to stay where they because they can't bother. Not because >> they're forced to.
What would it take to "force" them to?
On Jul 21, 2025 at 9:56:53 AM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/21/2025 12:20 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 21, 2025 at 8:54:31 AM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>
On 7/20/2025 5:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 20, 2025 at 1:54:01 PM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/20/2025 4:22 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
moviePig <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/20/2025 2:21 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 20, 2025 at 11:20:16 AM PDT, "moviePig"
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/20/2025 1:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 20, 2025 at 8:08:39 AM PDT, "moviePig"
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/19/2025 6:16 PM, Rhino wrote:Of course they have a choice. No one's stopping anyone from leaving and
Once again, you interject an observation that is not on topic or even
comprehensible to normal people. I don't know where you come up with
these. I can only assume this is some bizarre way of proving how wise
and worldly you think you are.
Example: Someone who's "proud to be an American" likely had little
choice in the matter and thus has little basis for pride. >>>>>>>>>>>
renouncing their citizenship.
"...had..."
No one was stopping anyone from leaving and renouncing their >>>>>>>>> citizenship in
the past, either.
Says little about pride. Most live in the state where they were born.
That doesn't mean they have no choice in the matter.
True, if I tell you at gunpoint to eat wasps, you still have a choice...
Yes, because people are being held at gunpoint and prevented from leaving
their state of birth.
Great analogy!
If I'd intended an analogy, "gunpoint" would refer to the enormous
inconvenience and stress surrounding a change of citizenship ...
So people decide to stay where they because they can't bother. Not because
they're forced to.
What would it take to "force" them to?
Um... force?
On 7/21/2025 2:31 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 21, 2025 at 9:56:53 AM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote: >>
On 7/21/2025 12:20 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 21, 2025 at 8:54:31 AM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/20/2025 5:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 20, 2025 at 1:54:01 PM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote:
On 7/20/2025 4:22 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
moviePig <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/20/2025 2:21 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 20, 2025 at 11:20:16 AM PDT, "moviePig"
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/20/2025 1:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 20, 2025 at 8:08:39 AM PDT, "moviePig"
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/19/2025 6:16 PM, Rhino wrote:Of course they have a choice. No one's stopping anyone from >>>>>>>>>>>> leaving and
Once again, you interject an observation that is not on topic or even
comprehensible to normal people. I don't know where you come up with
these. I can only assume this is some bizarre way of proving how wise
and worldly you think you are.
Example: Someone who's "proud to be an American" likely had little
choice in the matter and thus has little basis for pride. >>>>>>>>>>>>
renouncing their citizenship.
"...had..."
No one was stopping anyone from leaving and renouncing their >>>>>>>>>> citizenship in
the past, either.
Says little about pride. Most live in the state where they were born.
That doesn't mean they have no choice in the matter.
True, if I tell you at gunpoint to eat wasps, you still have a choice...
Yes, because people are being held at gunpoint and prevented from >>>>>> leaving
their state of birth.
Great analogy!
If I'd intended an analogy, "gunpoint" would refer to the enormous >>>>> inconvenience and stress surrounding a change of citizenship ...
So people decide to stay where they because they can't bother. Not because
they're forced to.
What would it take to "force" them to?
Um... force?
Such as?
On 7/21/2025 2:31 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 21, 2025 at 9:56:53 AM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> On 7/21/2025 12:20 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 21, 2025 at 8:54:31 AM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> On 7/20/2025 5:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 20, 2025 at 1:54:01 PM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/20/2025 4:22 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
moviePig <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/20/2025 2:21 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 20, 2025 at 11:20:16 AM PDT, "moviePig"
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/20/2025 1:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 20, 2025 at 8:08:39 AM PDT, "moviePig"
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/19/2025 6:16 PM, Rhino wrote:Of course they have a choice. No one's stopping anyone from leaving and
Once again, you interject an observation that is not on topic or even
comprehensible to normal people. I don't know where you come up with
these. I can only assume this is some bizarre way of proving how wise
and worldly you think you are.
Example: Someone who's "proud to be an American" likely had little
choice in the matter and thus has little basis for pride. >>>>>>>>>>>>
renouncing their citizenship.
"...had..."
No one was stopping anyone from leaving and renouncing their >>>>>>>>>> citizenship in the past, either.
Says little about pride. Most live in the state where they were born.
That doesn't mean they have no choice in the matter.
True, if I tell you at gunpoint to eat wasps, you still have a choice...
Yes, because people are being held at gunpoint and prevented from
leaving their state of birth.
Great analogy!
If I'd intended an analogy, "gunpoint" would refer to the enormous
inconvenience and stress surrounding a change of citizenship ...
So people decide to stay where they because they can't bother. Not
because they're forced to.
What would it take to "force" them to?
Um... force?
Such as?
On Jul 21, 2025 at 12:39:41 PM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/21/2025 2:31 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 21, 2025 at 9:56:53 AM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>
On 7/21/2025 12:20 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 21, 2025 at 8:54:31 AM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/20/2025 5:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:So people decide to stay where they because they can't bother. Not because
On Jul 20, 2025 at 1:54:01 PM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]>
wrote:
On 7/20/2025 4:22 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
moviePig <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/20/2025 2:21 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 20, 2025 at 11:20:16 AM PDT, "moviePig"
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/20/2025 1:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 20, 2025 at 8:08:39 AM PDT, "moviePig" >>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/19/2025 6:16 PM, Rhino wrote:
Once again, you interject an observation that is not on topic or even
comprehensible to normal people. I don't know where you come up with
these. I can only assume this is some bizarre way of proving how wise
and worldly you think you are.
Example: Someone who's "proud to be an American" likely had little
choice in the matter and thus has little basis for pride.
Of course they have a choice. No one's stopping anyone from
leaving and
renouncing their citizenship.
"...had..."
No one was stopping anyone from leaving and renouncing their
citizenship in
the past, either.
Says little about pride. Most live in the state where they were born.
That doesn't mean they have no choice in the matter.
True, if I tell you at gunpoint to eat wasps, you still have a choice...
Yes, because people are being held at gunpoint and prevented from >>>>>>> leaving
their state of birth.
Great analogy!
If I'd intended an analogy, "gunpoint" would refer to the enormous >>>>>> inconvenience and stress surrounding a change of citizenship ... >>>>>
they're forced to.
What would it take to "force" them to?
Um... force?
Such as?
Such as the force the government typically uses: laws, rules, regulations, statutes, ordinances, and by-laws backed up with men in uniforms with guns.
Yes, because people are being held at gunpoint and prevented from leaving >their state of birth.
Example: Someone who's "proud to be an American" likely had little
choice in the matter and thus has little basis for pride.
So people decide to stay where they because they can't bother. Not because >>> they're forced to.
What would it take to "force" them to?
Um... force?
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