On 2025-06-25 4:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
“The View” host Joy Behar complained about President Donald Trump’sYou've got to feel sorry for the legacy media in the wake of Trump's
decision
to strike Iranian nuclear sites, first objecting to the fact that he
did not
exhaust the two week window he’d set for such an attack, and then to
the fact
that he had not warned Iran ahead of time that he planned to carry out
the
attacks.
Behar addressed the topic on Monday’s broadcast of the midday talk show, >> along with her regular cohosts — and ABC News chief Washington
correspondent
Jonathan Karl pushed back when she suggested that the Trump
administration
had been out of line in attacking the Iranian nuclear enrichment
facilities.
“So on Thursday, the White House said that Trump was going to make a
decision
on Iran in the next two weeks, that’s what he said, remember that?” Behar
began. “Okay, he was going to give diplomatic negotiations more time
to play
out. And then less than 48 hours later, this attack was underway. So what
changed and what was he actually trying to accomplish here?”
“Look, the two weeks measure was clearly a little bit of a head fake,” >> Karl
replied. “I mean, not entirely. I wouldn’t say the decision was
finally made.
All indications are he didn’t actually make the decision to so-called
pull
the trigger until Saturday … and then the attack commenced.”
Karl went on to say that he really believed Trump wanted “a Kim Jong Un
moment” where Iran’s Supreme Leader came to the table and made an
eleventh-
hour deal, but that he made the decision to move forward with an
attack when
it was clear that would not happen.
Behar serious questions why Trump didn’t tell the Iranians he was >> going to bomb their nuclear weapons enrichment facility:
Behar: So, why did he keep it a secret for the surprise version?
pic.twitter.com/RcCwemhuc6
— Nicholas Fondacaro (@NickFondacaro) June 23, 2025
“So, why did he keep it a secret — a surprise version?” Behar asked, >> apparently questioning why Trump did not broadcast his plans to attack
prior
to execution.
Karl said it was “absolutely a diversion,” adding, “all indications
were that
the B-2s were flying towards Guam, everybody thought, okay, we’re
getting in
position to be ready. They wanted to have some element of surprise.”
apparent success in taking Iran down a peg or two. You just KNOW they
want to continue "the Resistance" but they're really struggling to find something to criticize. The best they can do is react to him saying
"fuck" in front of their media colleagues and raising questions about
just how effective the bunker-busters were. Joy Behar's claim that Trump wasn't being nice because he failed to telegraph the attack by the B2's
is a particularly desperate attempt to find something - ANYTHING - that
will resonate with their leftist compatriots.
My perception is that Americans are VERY happy that someone has finally
done something about a regime that has been screaming "Death to
America!" and "Death to Israel" for over 40 years and that has supported
its rhetoric by many fatal attacks on Americans and Israelis over those years.
Personally, I'd like to see America and Israel do everything they can to
help the many, many enemies of the Iranian theocracy overthrow their oppressors, including supplying small arms if necessary, to enable them
to overcome the regime's defenders in the IRGC. The vast majority of
Iranians want the current regime gone and Israel has tried to help by eliminating as many top IRGC people as possible but they may need still
more help so that should be provided. I feel sure the fanatics defending
the regime will melt away like Assad's defenders did when push comes to shove. Then Iran can do a massive reset to get back on track as a
prosperous and Western-friendly nation.
“The View” host Joy Behar complained about President Donald Trump’s decision
to strike Iranian nuclear sites, first objecting to the fact that he did not exhaust the two week window he’d set for such an attack, and then to the fact
that he had not warned Iran ahead of time that he planned to carry out the attacks.
Behar addressed the topic on Monday’s broadcast of the midday talk show, along with her regular cohosts — and ABC News chief Washington correspondent
Jonathan Karl pushed back when she suggested that the Trump administration had been out of line in attacking the Iranian nuclear enrichment facilities.
“So on Thursday, the White House said that Trump was going to make a decision
on Iran in the next two weeks, that’s what he said, remember that?” Behar began. “Okay, he was going to give diplomatic negotiations more time to play
out. And then less than 48 hours later, this attack was underway. So what changed and what was he actually trying to accomplish here?”
“Look, the two weeks measure was clearly a little bit of a head fake,” Karl
replied. “I mean, not entirely. I wouldn’t say the decision was finally made.
All indications are he didn’t actually make the decision to so-called pull the trigger until Saturday … and then the attack commenced.”
Karl went on to say that he really believed Trump wanted “a Kim Jong Un moment” where Iran’s Supreme Leader came to the table and made an eleventh-
hour deal, but that he made the decision to move forward with an attack when it was clear that would not happen.
Behar serious questions why Trump didn’t tell the Iranians he was
going to bomb their nuclear weapons enrichment facility:
Behar: So, why did he keep it a secret for the surprise version?
pic.twitter.com/RcCwemhuc6
— Nicholas Fondacaro (@NickFondacaro) June 23, 2025
“So, why did he keep it a secret — a surprise version?” Behar asked, apparently questioning why Trump did not broadcast his plans to attack prior to execution.
Karl said it was “absolutely a diversion,” adding, “all indications were that
the B-2s were flying towards Guam, everybody thought, okay, we’re getting in
position to be ready. They wanted to have some element of surprise.”
On 2025-06-25 4:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
“The View” host Joy Behar complained about President Donald Trump’s decisionYou've got to feel sorry for the legacy media in the wake of Trump's
to strike Iranian nuclear sites, first objecting to the fact that he did not >> exhaust the two week window he’d set for such an attack, and then to the fact
that he had not warned Iran ahead of time that he planned to carry out the >> attacks.
Behar addressed the topic on Monday’s broadcast of the midday talk show, >> along with her regular cohosts — and ABC News chief Washington correspondent
Jonathan Karl pushed back when she suggested that the Trump administration >> had been out of line in attacking the Iranian nuclear enrichment facilities. >>
“So on Thursday, the White House said that Trump was going to make a decision
on Iran in the next two weeks, that’s what he said, remember that?” Behar
began. “Okay, he was going to give diplomatic negotiations more time to play
out. And then less than 48 hours later, this attack was underway. So what
changed and what was he actually trying to accomplish here?”
“Look, the two weeks measure was clearly a little bit of a head fake,” Karl
replied. “I mean, not entirely. I wouldn’t say the decision was finally made.
All indications are he didn’t actually make the decision to so-called pull >> the trigger until Saturday … and then the attack commenced.”
Karl went on to say that he really believed Trump wanted “a Kim Jong Un
moment” where Iran’s Supreme Leader came to the table and made an eleventh-
hour deal, but that he made the decision to move forward with an attack when >> it was clear that would not happen.
Behar serious questions why Trump didn’t tell the Iranians he was
going to bomb their nuclear weapons enrichment facility:
Behar: So, why did he keep it a secret for the surprise version?
pic.twitter.com/RcCwemhuc6
— Nicholas Fondacaro (@NickFondacaro) June 23, 2025
“So, why did he keep it a secret — a surprise version?” Behar asked, >> apparently questioning why Trump did not broadcast his plans to attack prior >> to execution.
Karl said it was “absolutely a diversion,” adding, “all indications were that
the B-2s were flying towards Guam, everybody thought, okay, we’re getting in
position to be ready. They wanted to have some element of surprise.”
apparent success in taking Iran down a peg or two. You just KNOW they
want to continue "the Resistance" but they're really struggling to find >something to criticize. The best they can do is react to him saying
"fuck" in front of their media colleagues and raising questions about
just how effective the bunker-busters were. Joy Behar's claim that Trump >wasn't being nice because he failed to telegraph the attack by the B2's
is a particularly desperate attempt to find something - ANYTHING - that
will resonate with their leftist compatriots.
My perception is that Americans are VERY happy that someone has finally
done something about a regime that has been screaming "Death to
America!" and "Death to Israel" for over 40 years and that has supported
its rhetoric by many fatal attacks on Americans and Israelis over those >years.
Personally, I'd like to see America and Israel do everything they can to
help the many, many enemies of the Iranian theocracy overthrow their >oppressors, including supplying small arms if necessary, to enable them
to overcome the regime's defenders in the IRGC. The vast majority of
Iranians want the current regime gone and Israel has tried to help by >eliminating as many top IRGC people as possible but they may need still
more help so that should be provided. I feel sure the fanatics defending
the regime will melt away like Assad's defenders did when push comes to >shove. Then Iran can do a massive reset to get back on track as a
prosperous and Western-friendly nation.
On 2025-06-25 4:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:that
“The View” host Joy Behar complained about President Donald Trump's decision
to strike Iranian nuclear sites, first objecting to the fact that he did not >> exhaust the two week window he'd set for such an attack, and then to the fact
that he had not warned Iran ahead of time that he planned to carry out the >> attacks.
Behar addressed the topic on Monday's broadcast of the midday talk show,
along with her regular cohosts — and ABC News chief Washington correspondent
Jonathan Karl pushed back when she suggested that the Trump administration >> had been out of line in attacking the Iranian nuclear enrichment facilities. >>
“So on Thursday, the White House said that Trump was going to make a decision
on Iran in the next two weeks, that's what he said, remember that?” Behar >> began. “Okay, he was going to give diplomatic negotiations more time to play
out. And then less than 48 hours later, this attack was underway. So what
changed and what was he actually trying to accomplish here?”
“Look, the two weeks measure was clearly a little bit of a head fake,” Karl
replied. “I mean, not entirely. I wouldn't say the decision was finally made.
All indications are he didn't actually make the decision to so-called pull >> the trigger until Saturday … and then the attack commenced.”
Karl went on to say that he really believed Trump wanted “a Kim Jong Un
moment” where Iran's Supreme Leader came to the table and made an eleventh-
hour deal, but that he made the decision to move forward with an attack when >> it was clear that would not happen.
Behar serious questions why Trump didn't tell the Iranians he was
going to bomb their nuclear weapons enrichment facility:
Behar: So, why did he keep it a secret for the surprise version?
pic.twitter.com/RcCwemhuc6
— Nicholas Fondacaro (@NickFondacaro) June 23, 2025
“So, why did he keep it a secret — a surprise version?” Behar asked, >> apparently questioning why Trump did not broadcast his plans to attack prior >> to execution.
Karl said it was “absolutely a diversion,” adding, “all indications were
the B-2s were flying towards Guam, everybody thought, okay, we're getting in >> position to be ready. They wanted to have some element of surprise.”You've got to feel sorry for the legacy media in the wake of Trump's
apparent success in taking Iran down a peg or two. You just KNOW they
want to continue "the Resistance" but they're really struggling to find >something to criticize. The best they can do is react to him saying
"fuck" in front of their media colleagues and raising questions about
just how effective the bunker-busters were. Joy Behar's claim that Trump >wasn't being nice because he failed to telegraph the attack by the B2's
is a particularly desperate attempt to find something - ANYTHING - that
will resonate with their leftist compatriots.
My perception is that Americans are VERY happy that someone has finally
done something about a regime that has been screaming "Death to
America!" and "Death to Israel" for over 40 years and that has supported
its rhetoric by many fatal attacks on Americans and Israelis over those >years.
Personally, I'd like to see America and Israel do everything they can to
help the many, many enemies of the Iranian theocracy overthrow their >oppressors, including supplying small arms if necessary, to enable them
to overcome the regime's defenders in the IRGC. The vast majority of
Iranians want the current regime gone and Israel has tried to help by >eliminating as many top IRGC people as possible but they may need still
more help so that should be provided. I feel sure the fanatics defending
the regime will melt away like Assad's defenders did when push comes to >shove. Then Iran can do a massive reset to get back on track as a
prosperous and Western-friendly nation.
The experts are also saying this likely delayed the Iranians by about
3 to 4 months. Lastly from what I'm hearing reported it's not clear
what damage, if any, was actually done to the equipment in the major
site. We definitely did damage to the outside but the reports where of
no major rescue efforts. The sort one might expect if we did the sort
of damage the military was going for.
You've got to feel sorry for the legacy media in the wake of Trump's
apparent success in taking Iran down a peg or two. You just KNOW they
want to continue "the Resistance" but they're really struggling to find >something to criticize. The best they can do is react to him saying
"fuck" in front of their media colleagues and raising questions about
just how effective the bunker-busters were. Joy Behar's claim that Trump >wasn't being nice because he failed to telegraph the attack by the B2's
is a particularly desperate attempt to find something - ANYTHING - that
will resonate with their leftist compatriots.
My perception is that Americans are VERY happy that someone has finally
done something about a regime that has been screaming "Death to
America!" and "Death to Israel" for over 40 years and that has supported
its rhetoric by many fatal attacks on Americans and Israelis over those >years.
Personally, I'd like to see America and Israel do everything they can to
help the many, many enemies of the Iranian theocracy overthrow their >oppressors, including supplying small arms if necessary, to enable them
to overcome the regime's defenders in the IRGC. The vast majority of
Iranians want the current regime gone and Israel has tried to help by >eliminating as many top IRGC people as possible but they may need still
more help so that should be provided. I feel sure the fanatics defending
the regime will melt away like Assad's defenders did when push comes to >shove. Then Iran can do a massive reset to get back on track as a
prosperous and Western-friendly nation.
On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 12:34:37 -0400, shawn
<[email protected]> wrote:
The experts are also saying this likely delayed the Iranians by about
3 to 4 months. Lastly from what I'm hearing reported it's not clear
what damage, if any, was actually done to the equipment in the major
site. We definitely did damage to the outside but the reports where of
no major rescue efforts. The sort one might expect if we did the sort
of damage the military was going for.
If what was said on the news I watched was true ("if") then Iran has
enough enriched uranium for roughly 10 bombs. Were 10 nukes to get
through Israeli defences, that would be enough to end Israel as we
know it.
Thu, 26 Jun 2025 11:36:48 -0700, The Horny Goat <[email protected]>:
Wed, 25 Jun 2025 12:34:37 -0400, shawn <[email protected]>:
The experts are also saying this likely delayed the Iranians by about
3 to 4 months. Lastly from what I'm hearing reported it's not clear
what damage, if any, was actually done to the equipment in the major >>>site. We definitely did damage to the outside but the reports where of
no major rescue efforts. The sort one might expect if we did the sort
of damage the military was going for.
If what was said on the news I watched was true ("if") then Iran has
enough enriched uranium for roughly 10 bombs. Were 10 nukes to get
through Israeli defences, that would be enough to end Israel as we
know it.
But Israel would respond in kind. Also ten anything isn't getting
through Israel's current shield. The issue is that if Iran had nukes
would Israel ever dare to attack Iran for fear of their use of nukes?
On 6/25/2025 12:16 PM, Rhino wrote:
You've got to feel sorry for the legacy media in the wake of Trump's
apparent success in taking Iran down a peg or two. You just KNOW they
want to continue "the Resistance" but they're really struggling to find
something to criticize. The best they can do is react to him saying
"fuck" in front of their media colleagues and raising questions about
just how effective the bunker-busters were. Joy Behar's claim that Trump
wasn't being nice because he failed to telegraph the attack by the B2's
is a particularly desperate attempt to find something - ANYTHING - that
will resonate with their leftist compatriots.
My perception is that Americans are VERY happy that someone has finally
done something about a regime that has been screaming "Death to
America!" and "Death to Israel" for over 40 years and that has supported
its rhetoric by many fatal attacks on Americans and Israelis over those
years.
Personally, I'd like to see America and Israel do everything they can to
help the many, many enemies of the Iranian theocracy overthrow their
oppressors, including supplying small arms if necessary, to enable them
to overcome the regime's defenders in the IRGC. The vast majority of
Iranians want the current regime gone and Israel has tried to help by
eliminating as many top IRGC people as possible but they may need still
more help so that should be provided. I feel sure the fanatics defending
the regime will melt away like Assad's defenders did when push comes to
shove. Then Iran can do a massive reset to get back on track as a
prosperous and Western-friendly nation.
This American is very *un*happy that -- across the board -- we have no
idea who, if anyone, is telling the truth about the bombing's effect.
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