• Anti-ICE protests in Chicago

    From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 11 05:00:18 2025
    I was in the Chicago Loop this afternoon. I teach an economics class on Tuesdays; the school is in shared office space on the 27th floor of a
    high rise with a great view of Lake Michigan.

    Half a dozen federal security SUVs were next to the federal jail but I
    didn't see protestors there. They were in federal plaza, then joined a
    separate protest in the east Loop at the high rise with immigration
    court in it. From my highrise, I could see them marching in the middle
    of the street toward Michigan Avenue. A frustrated driver at another intersection ignored police instructions to turn, instead driving into protestors. She knocked one woman down but wasn't charged.

    By the time I left, they supposedly had 1000 people.

    There was graffiti on the Art Institute and on several municipal
    vehicles.

    Around here, ICE had taken about two dozen or so into detention who had received messages ordering them to report to an ICE office. Others had
    been detained at immigration hearings.

    ICE isn't touting any high-value criminals here.

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 11 16:55:23 2025
    On Jun 10, 2025 at 10:00:18 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    I was in the Chicago Loop this afternoon. I teach an economics class on Tuesdays; the school is in shared office space on the 27th floor of a
    high rise with a great view of Lake Michigan.

    Half a dozen federal security SUVs were next to the federal jail but I
    didn't see protestors there. They were in federal plaza, then joined a separate protest in the east Loop at the high rise with immigration
    court in it. From my highrise, I could see them marching in the middle
    of the street toward Michigan Avenue. A frustrated driver at another intersection ignored police instructions to turn, instead driving into protestors. She knocked one woman down but wasn't charged.

    Something similar happened in L.A. As the violent mob surrounded a woman in an SUV, she drove through them and knocked some of them to the side. The media chopper had her license tag, so the cops showed up to her house in Glendora
    but she wasn't arrested or charged (I suppose the could have written her some kind of ticket.)

    The city would have a hard time explaining to a judge why they charged her but they didn't charge the thousands of other people committing crimes all around her, especially since she has a valid claim of self-defense.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Fri Jun 27 20:02:00 2025
    Adam H. Kerman <[email protected]> wrote:

    I was in the Chicago Loop this afternoon. I teach an economics class on >Tuesdays; the school is in shared office space on the 27th floor of a
    high rise with a great view of Lake Michigan.

    Half a dozen federal security SUVs were next to the federal jail but I
    didn't see protestors there. They were in federal plaza, then joined a >separate protest in the east Loop at the high rise with immigration
    court in it. From my highrise, I could see them marching in the middle
    of the street toward Michigan Avenue. A frustrated driver at another >intersection ignored police instructions to turn, instead driving into >protestors. She knocked one woman down but wasn't charged.

    Meant to post about this earlier.

    They tracked her down and threw the book at her.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/06/24/chicago-woman-detained-for-driving-through-crowd-of-protesters-police-in-the-loop/

    https://chicago.suntimes.com/2025/06/26/woman-accused-of-driving-through-protest-was-trying-to-protect-her-children-attorney-says

    It's not entirely straightforward. Note that Monroe is one-way eastbound
    (when not clogged with an unpermitted protest parade) and the Trib
    article says "westbound" at one point. She had her two young children in
    the car. When she first encountered the protestors, she got out of her
    vehicle to video them, then threw stuff at them taken from the car
    trunk. Police told her to return to the video and her children.

    The Sun-Times article was also unclear. If she were told to turn away
    from the protestors, then police were ordering her to turn the wrong
    way. I think the protestors had already crossed State Street. I don't
    really have a clear picture.

    In the Trib article, she was held in pre-trial confinement but the
    charges, a variety of driving infractions plus the assault and battery
    in striking the pedestrian and breaking the protestor's arm, but the
    Sun-Times article said she was on bond another county for a violent
    felony case, clearly in violation of bond conditions.

    I was sympathetic toward her in the first place but it doesn't sound
    like protestors had surrounded her vehicle, threatening her and the
    children. The vehicle code violations included driving on a suspended
    license and no insurance, plus felony charges. She's a menace.

    . . .

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  • From danny burstein@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Fri Jun 27 20:12:42 2025
    In <103mtbo$b6ii$[email protected]> "Adam H. Kerman" <[email protected]> writes:

    [snip]

    I was sympathetic toward her in the first place but it doesn't sound
    like protestors had surrounded her vehicle, threatening her and the
    children. The vehicle code violations included driving on a suspended
    license and no insurance, plus felony charges. She's a menace.

    nah, just a typical [snip...]



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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Fri Jun 27 22:01:27 2025
    On Jun 27, 2025 at 1:02:00 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Adam H. Kerman <[email protected]> wrote:

    I was in the Chicago Loop this afternoon. I teach an economics class on
    Tuesdays; the school is in shared office space on the 27th floor of a
    high rise with a great view of Lake Michigan.

    Half a dozen federal security SUVs were next to the federal jail but I
    didn't see protestors there. They were in federal plaza, then joined a
    separate protest in the east Loop at the high rise with immigration
    court in it. From my highrise, I could see them marching in the middle
    of the street toward Michigan Avenue. A frustrated driver at another
    intersection ignored police instructions to turn, instead driving into
    protestors. She knocked one woman down but wasn't charged.

    Meant to post about this earlier.

    They tracked her down and threw the book at her.


    https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/06/24/chicago-woman-detained-for-driving-through-crowd-of-protesters-police-in-the-loop/


    https://chicago.suntimes.com/2025/06/26/woman-accused-of-driving-through-protest-was-trying-to-protect-her-children-attorney-says

    It's not entirely straightforward. Note that Monroe is one-way eastbound (when not clogged with an unpermitted protest parade) and the Trib
    article says "westbound" at one point. She had her two young children in
    the car. When she first encountered the protestors, she got out of her vehicle to video them, then threw stuff at them taken from the car
    trunk. Police told her to return to the video and her children.

    The cops ordered her to keep filming the protesters? Why would they do that?

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