• [OT] Breaking - Jews walking in peaceful rally firebombed in Boulder CO

    From Rhino@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 2 15:03:51 2025
    I was truly shocked to see news of this horrific attack just now:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/02/boulder-colorado-attack-rally

    The attacker has been apprehended; no bonus points for guessing that
    his first name is Mohamed.

    I hope he gets the death penalty and that the victims recover quickly.
    The report I read does not mention fatalities so I'm hoping the injuries
    aren't too bad although I imagine the psychological trauma is going to
    be very difficult to overcome if it can be overcome at all.

    --
    Rhino

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Rhino on Mon Jun 2 19:32:44 2025
    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:

    I was truly shocked to see news of this horrific attack just now:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/02/boulder-colorado-attack-rally

    The attacker has been apprehended; no bonus points for guessing that
    his first name is Mohamed.

    I hope he gets the death penalty and that the victims recover quickly.
    The report I read does not mention fatalities so I'm hoping the injuries >aren't too bad although I imagine the psychological trauma is going to
    be very difficult to overcome if it can be overcome at all.

    I hadn't heard this yesterday. How awful.

    I wonder if all those who have proclaimed over the years that incendiary rhetoric is responsible for inspiring people to commit violent acts will
    keep silent since, you know, Jews are the chosen scapegoats.

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Mon Jun 2 15:51:43 2025
    On 2025-06-02 3:32 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:

    I was truly shocked to see news of this horrific attack just now:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/02/boulder-colorado-attack-rally

    The attacker has been apprehended; no bonus points for guessing that
    his first name is Mohamed.

    I hope he gets the death penalty and that the victims recover quickly.
    The report I read does not mention fatalities so I'm hoping the injuries
    aren't too bad although I imagine the psychological trauma is going to
    be very difficult to overcome if it can be overcome at all.

    I hadn't heard this yesterday. How awful.

    I wonder if all those who have proclaimed over the years that incendiary rhetoric is responsible for inspiring people to commit violent acts will
    keep silent since, you know, Jews are the chosen scapegoats.


    If they don't condemn it, throw their own reasoning back on them by
    declaring that "silence is violence".

    I can't remember a single report of someone Jewish ever physically
    attacking the protesters at any of the all-too-common pro-Hamas rallies,
    do you? It's almost like one side actually believes in freedom of speech
    and the other side doesn't....

    --
    Rhino

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 2 20:00:48 2025
    On Jun 2, 2025 at 12:51:43 PM PDT, "Rhino" <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-06-02 3:32 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:

    I was truly shocked to see news of this horrific attack just now:


    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/02/boulder-colorado-attack-rally

    The attacker has been apprehended; no bonus points for guessing that
    his first name is Mohamed.

    I hope he gets the death penalty and that the victims recover quickly.
    The report I read does not mention fatalities so I'm hoping the injuries >>> aren't too bad although I imagine the psychological trauma is going to
    be very difficult to overcome if it can be overcome at all.

    I hadn't heard this yesterday. How awful.

    I wonder if all those who have proclaimed over the years that incendiary
    rhetoric is responsible for inspiring people to commit violent acts will
    keep silent since, you know, Jews are the chosen scapegoats.


    If they don't condemn it, throw their own reasoning back on them by
    declaring that "silence is violence".

    I can't remember a single report of someone Jewish ever physically
    attacking the protesters at any of the all-too-common pro-Hamas rallies,
    do you? It's almost like one side actually believes in freedom of speech
    and the other side doesn't....

    I'm currently watching the hippopotamuses on THE VIEW desperately trying to explain how the Colorado man who lit pro-Israel protestors on fire in Denver this weekend wasn't a far-left terrorist. They’re suggesting the whole thing was a false-flag perpetrated by Mossad to stoke anti-Palestine sentiment.

    I read the other day that even the Disney brass have become uncomfortable with the crap those harridans spout daily and have told them to tone it down or else. When you're too woke for the Disney board, maybe it’s time for some serious self-reflection.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Rhino on Mon Jun 2 19:59:14 2025
    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:
    2025-06-02 3:32 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:

    I was truly shocked to see news of this horrific attack just now:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/02/boulder-colorado-attack-rally

    The attacker has been apprehended; no bonus points for guessing that
    his first name is Mohamed.

    I hope he gets the death penalty and that the victims recover quickly. >>>The report I read does not mention fatalities so I'm hoping the injuries >>>aren't too bad although I imagine the psychological trauma is going to
    be very difficult to overcome if it can be overcome at all.

    I hadn't heard this yesterday. How awful.

    I wonder if all those who have proclaimed over the years that incendiary >>rhetoric is responsible for inspiring people to commit violent acts will >>keep silent since, you know, Jews are the chosen scapegoats.

    If they don't condemn it, throw their own reasoning back on them by
    declaring that "silence is violence".

    I can't remember a single report of someone Jewish ever physically
    attacking the protesters at any of the all-too-common pro-Hamas rallies,
    do you? It's almost like one side actually believes in freedom of speech
    and the other side doesn't....

    Perhaps some shoving. I'd have remembered a flame thrower.

    Gotta love a violent act to enforce the heckler's veto.

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to Rhino on Mon Jun 2 13:56:55 2025
    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:
    I was truly shocked to see news of this horrific attack just now:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/02/boulder-colorado-attack-rally

    The attacker has been apprehended; no bonus points for guessing that
    his first name is Mohamed.

    I hope he gets the death penalty and that the victims recover quickly.
    The report I read does not mention fatalities so I'm hoping the injuries aren't too bad although I imagine the psychological trauma is going to
    be very difficult to overcome if it can be overcome at all.


    Jesus H. Christ.
    In the first three lines, she calls it a blow torch, throwing Molotov cocktails, and a flamethrower. And then she has the nerve to say this:

    “What’s more, in a time of rising, democracy-threatening misinformation, we make our fiercely independent journalism free to all, with no paywall – so that everyone in the US can have access to responsible, fact-based news.”

    She wouldn’t know a fact if she stumbled over it

    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 2 16:57:09 2025
    On 2025-06-02 4:00 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jun 2, 2025 at 12:51:43 PM PDT, "Rhino" <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-06-02 3:32 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:

    I was truly shocked to see news of this horrific attack just now:


    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/02/boulder-colorado-attack-rally

    The attacker has been apprehended; no bonus points for guessing that >>>> his first name is Mohamed.

    I hope he gets the death penalty and that the victims recover quickly. >>>> The report I read does not mention fatalities so I'm hoping the injuries >>>> aren't too bad although I imagine the psychological trauma is going to >>>> be very difficult to overcome if it can be overcome at all.

    I hadn't heard this yesterday. How awful.

    I wonder if all those who have proclaimed over the years that incendiary >>> rhetoric is responsible for inspiring people to commit violent acts will >>> keep silent since, you know, Jews are the chosen scapegoats.


    If they don't condemn it, throw their own reasoning back on them by
    declaring that "silence is violence".

    I can't remember a single report of someone Jewish ever physically
    attacking the protesters at any of the all-too-common pro-Hamas rallies,
    do you? It's almost like one side actually believes in freedom of speech
    and the other side doesn't....

    I'm currently watching the hippopotamuses on THE VIEW desperately trying to explain how the Colorado man who lit pro-Israel protestors on fire in Denver this weekend wasn't a far-left terrorist. They’re suggesting the whole thing
    was a false-flag perpetrated by Mossad to stoke anti-Palestine sentiment.

    I guess their old standby of "mostly peaceful protest" didn't seem
    likely to fly so they concocted a false-flag op to explain why it
    couldn't possibly be one of those wonderful, peace-loving Palestinians expressing his true feelings....

    I read the other day that even the Disney brass have become uncomfortable with
    the crap those harridans spout daily and have told them to tone it down or else. When you're too woke for the Disney board, maybe it’s time for some serious self-reflection.


    I saw some commentary on that which pointed out that The View has really
    high ratings and toning down the nonsense by the hosts would probably
    hurt those ratings and Disney's bottom line so Disney is just pretending
    to want changes. I guess we'll see if they're serious in due course. If production management and/or hosts start leaving, we'll know that Disney
    meant it; if nothing changes, we'll know they were just pretending.

    --
    Rhino

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 2 17:03:28 2025
    On 2025-06-02 4:56 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:
    I was truly shocked to see news of this horrific attack just now:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/02/boulder-colorado-attack-rally

    The attacker has been apprehended; no bonus points for guessing that
    his first name is Mohamed.

    I hope he gets the death penalty and that the victims recover quickly.
    The report I read does not mention fatalities so I'm hoping the injuries
    aren't too bad although I imagine the psychological trauma is going to
    be very difficult to overcome if it can be overcome at all.


    Jesus H. Christ.
    In the first three lines, she calls it a blow torch, throwing Molotov cocktails, and a flamethrower. And then she has the nerve to say this:

    “What’s more, in a time of rising, democracy-threatening misinformation, we
    make our fiercely independent journalism free to all, with no paywall – so that everyone in the US can have access to responsible, fact-based news.”

    She wouldn’t know a fact if she stumbled over it


    Well, it *is* the Guardian, a strongly left-leaning publication well
    known for their biases. It just happened to be the first place I saw the
    story.

    And for what it's worth, I read another article which said that the
    attacker had an improvised flamethrower (adapted from a blowtorch) and
    Molotov cocktails so she's not actually wrong, just really sloppy in her writing.


    --
    Rhino

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Mon Jun 2 17:10:42 2025
    On 2025-06-02 3:59 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:
    2025-06-02 3:32 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:

    I was truly shocked to see news of this horrific attack just now:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/02/boulder-colorado-attack-rally

    The attacker has been apprehended; no bonus points for guessing that
    his first name is Mohamed.

    I hope he gets the death penalty and that the victims recover quickly. >>>> The report I read does not mention fatalities so I'm hoping the injuries >>>> aren't too bad although I imagine the psychological trauma is going to >>>> be very difficult to overcome if it can be overcome at all.

    I hadn't heard this yesterday. How awful.

    I wonder if all those who have proclaimed over the years that incendiary >>> rhetoric is responsible for inspiring people to commit violent acts will >>> keep silent since, you know, Jews are the chosen scapegoats.

    If they don't condemn it, throw their own reasoning back on them by
    declaring that "silence is violence".

    I can't remember a single report of someone Jewish ever physically
    attacking the protesters at any of the all-too-common pro-Hamas rallies,
    do you? It's almost like one side actually believes in freedom of speech
    and the other side doesn't....

    Perhaps some shoving. I'd have remembered a flame thrower.

    Gotta love a violent act to enforce the heckler's veto.

    I wonder if we'll find the attacker lionized the way Luigi Mangione has
    been? It would be nauseating - but all too predictable - if the attacker
    was treated as a martyr who was standing up for the poor downtrodden Palestinians just like all those wonderful activists protesting on the
    world's streets and campuses.

    In other news, I see Greta Thunberg has joined a flotilla trying to
    bring "symbolic" aid to Palestine through the IDF blockade of Gaza.
    Here's hoping the IDF arrest her and her companions and detain them with
    some of the worst of the Palestinians they hold. That should go a long
    way to opening her eyes to who she's supporting - assuming her mind is
    even capable of comprehending reality.
    --
    Rhino

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to Rhino on Mon Jun 2 18:02:40 2025
    On 6/2/2025 4:57 PM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2025-06-02 4:00 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jun 2, 2025 at 12:51:43 PM PDT, "Rhino"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-06-02 3:32 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:
    I was truly shocked to see news of this horrific attack just
    now:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/02/boulder-
    colorado- attack-rally The attacker has been apprehended; no
    bonus points for guessing that his first name is Mohamed. I
    hope he gets the death penalty and that the victims recover
    quickly. The report I read does not mention fatalities so
    I'm hoping the injuries aren't too bad although I imagine
    the psychological trauma is going to be very difficult to
    overcome if it can be overcome at all.
    I hadn't heard this yesterday. How awful. I wonder if all
    those who have proclaimed over the years that incendiary
    rhetoric is responsible for inspiring people to commit violent
    acts will keep silent since, you know, Jews are the chosen
    scapegoats.


    If they don't condemn it, throw their own reasoning back on them
    by declaring that "silence is violence".

    I can't remember a single report of someone Jewish ever
    physically attacking the protesters at any of the all-too-common
    pro-Hamas rallies, do you? It's almost like one side actually
    believes in freedom of speech and the other side doesn't....

    'Freedom of speech' seems an unlikely factor. Seems generally
    acknowledged that today's Jewish culture is more civilized than today's
    Muslim culture (fwiw).


    I'm currently watching the hippopotamuses on THE VIEW desperately
    trying to explain how the Colorado man who lit pro-Israel
    protestors on fire in Denver this weekend wasn't a far-left
    terrorist. They’re suggesting the whole thing was a false-flag
    perpetrated by Mossad to stoke anti-Palestine sentiment.
    I guess their old standby of "mostly peaceful protest" didn't seem
    likely to fly so they concocted a false-flag op to explain why it
    couldn't possibly be one of those wonderful, peace-loving
    Palestinians expressing his true feelings....

    False flag or true, both sides will doubtless use the attack to gin up sentiment leading to more of the same.


    I read the other day that even the Disney brass have become
    uncomfortable with the crap those harridans spout daily and have
    told them to tone it down or else. When you're too woke for the
    Disney board, maybe it’s time for some serious self-reflection.


    I saw some commentary on that which pointed out that The View has
    really high ratings and toning down the nonsense by the hosts would
    probably hurt those ratings and Disney's bottom line so Disney is
    just pretending to want changes. I guess we'll see if they're
    serious in due course. If production management and/or hosts start
    leaving, we'll know that Disney meant it; if nothing changes, we'll
    know they were just pretending.

    I don't know what this says about its "really high ratings", but all I
    know of The View is what I hear from people who hate it.

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 2 23:48:49 2025
    On Jun 2, 2025 at 2:10:42 PM PDT, "Rhino" <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-06-02 3:59 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:
    2025-06-02 3:32 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:

    I was truly shocked to see news of this horrific attack just now:


    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/02/boulder-colorado-attack-rally

    The attacker has been apprehended; no bonus points for guessing that >>>>> his first name is Mohamed.

    I hope he gets the death penalty and that the victims recover quickly. >>>>> The report I read does not mention fatalities so I'm hoping the injuries >>>>> aren't too bad although I imagine the psychological trauma is going to >>>>> be very difficult to overcome if it can be overcome at all.

    I hadn't heard this yesterday. How awful.

    I wonder if all those who have proclaimed over the years that incendiary >>>> rhetoric is responsible for inspiring people to commit violent acts will >>>> keep silent since, you know, Jews are the chosen scapegoats.

    If they don't condemn it, throw their own reasoning back on them by
    declaring that "silence is violence".

    I can't remember a single report of someone Jewish ever physically
    attacking the protesters at any of the all-too-common pro-Hamas rallies, >>> do you? It's almost like one side actually believes in freedom of speech >>> and the other side doesn't....

    Perhaps some shoving. I'd have remembered a flame thrower.

    Gotta love a violent act to enforce the heckler's veto.

    I wonder if we'll find the attacker lionized the way Luigi Mangione has
    been? It would be nauseating - but all too predictable - if the attacker
    was treated as a martyr who was standing up for the poor downtrodden Palestinians just like all those wonderful activists protesting on the world's streets and campuses.

    In other news, I see Greta Thunberg has joined a flotilla trying to
    bring "symbolic" aid to Palestine through the IDF blockade of Gaza.
    Here's hoping the IDF arrest her and her companions and detain them with
    some of the worst of the Palestinians they hold.

    How dare you!

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to moviePig on Mon Jun 2 20:09:53 2025
    On 2025-06-02 6:02 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 6/2/2025 4:57 PM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2025-06-02 4:00 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jun 2, 2025 at 12:51:43 PM PDT, "Rhino"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-06-02 3:32 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:
    I was truly shocked to see news of this horrific attack just now:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/02/boulder- colorado- >>>>>> attack-rally The attacker has been apprehended; no bonus points
    for guessing that his first name is Mohamed. I hope he gets the
    death penalty and that the victims recover quickly. The report I
    read does not mention fatalities so I'm hoping the injuries aren't >>>>>> too bad although I imagine the psychological trauma is going to be >>>>>> very difficult to overcome if it can be overcome at all.
    I hadn't heard this yesterday. How awful. I wonder if all those who
    have proclaimed over the years that incendiary rhetoric is
    responsible for inspiring people to commit violent
    acts will keep silent since, you know, Jews are the chosen
    scapegoats.


    If they don't condemn it, throw their own reasoning back on them by
    declaring that "silence is violence".

    I can't remember a single report of someone Jewish ever physically
    attacking the protesters at any of the all-too-common pro-Hamas
    rallies, do you? It's almost like one side actually believes in
    freedom of speech and the other side doesn't....

    'Freedom of speech' seems an unlikely factor.  Seems generally
    acknowledged that today's Jewish culture is more civilized than today's Muslim culture (fwiw).


    I'm currently watching the hippopotamuses on THE VIEW desperately
    trying to explain how the Colorado man who lit pro-Israel protestors
    on fire in Denver this weekend wasn't a far-left terrorist. They’re
    suggesting the whole thing was a false-flag perpetrated by Mossad to
    stoke anti-Palestine sentiment.
    I guess their old standby of "mostly peaceful protest" didn't seem
    likely to fly so they concocted a false-flag op to explain why it
    couldn't possibly be one of those wonderful, peace-loving Palestinians
    expressing his true feelings....

    False flag or true, both sides will doubtless use the attack to gin up sentiment leading to more of the same.


    I read the other day that even the Disney brass have become
    uncomfortable with the crap those harridans spout daily and have told
    them to tone it down or else. When you're too woke for the Disney
    board, maybe it’s time for some serious self-reflection.


    I saw some commentary on that which pointed out that The View has
    really high ratings and toning down the nonsense by the hosts would
    probably hurt those ratings and Disney's bottom line so Disney is just
    pretending to want changes. I guess we'll see if they're serious in
    due course. If production management and/or hosts start leaving, we'll
    know that Disney meant it; if nothing changes, we'll know they were
    just pretending.

    I don't know what this says about its "really high ratings", but all I
    know of The View is what I hear from people who hate it.

    I've heard speculation that a lot of the people who watch it are "hate-watching": viewing it so that they can vent at the hosts whenever
    they say something odious.


    --
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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Rhino on Tue Jun 3 05:51:25 2025
    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:

    I was truly shocked to see news of this horrific attack just now:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/02/boulder-colorado-attack-rally

    The attacker has been apprehended; no bonus points for guessing that
    his first name is Mohamed.

    I hope he gets the death penalty and that the victims recover quickly.
    The report I read does not mention fatalities so I'm hoping the injuries >aren't too bad although I imagine the psychological trauma is going to
    be very difficult to overcome if it can be overcome at all.

    Federal hate crime was charged; no bail. The state charges could have
    had bail but the bond was in the 10s of millions of dollars.

    Hate crime because he just wanted to kill Jews. Terrorism charges were inappropriate because the act wasn't intended to change government
    policy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sV6N5GmZFg

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Jun 3 07:24:26 2025
    On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 15:03:51 -0400, Rhino
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    I was truly shocked to see news of this horrific attack just now:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/02/boulder-colorado-attack-rally

    The attacker has been apprehended; no bonus points for guessing that
    his first name is Mohamed.

    I hope he gets the death penalty and that the victims recover quickly.
    The report I read does not mention fatalities so I'm hoping the injuries >aren't too bad although I imagine the psychological trauma is going to
    be very difficult to overcome if it can be overcome at all.

    I'm not shocked at all given how much sympathy the media pushes for
    Palestinian terrorists.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Rhino on Tue Jun 3 14:07:39 2025
    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:

    I was truly shocked to see news of this horrific attack just now:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/02/boulder-colorado-attack-rally

    The attacker has been apprehended; no bonus points for guessing that
    his first name is Mohamed.

    I hope he gets the death penalty and that the victims recover quickly.
    The report I read does not mention fatalities so I'm hoping the injuries >aren't too bad although I imagine the psychological trauma is going to
    be very difficult to overcome if it can be overcome at all.

    I've heard different reports about the immigration status of the alleged perpetrator Mohamed Sabry Soliman, 45. He was born in Egypt; the reports
    agree he's an Egyptian national. He lived in Kuwait for 17 years.

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/boulder-attack-suspect-us-illegally-homeland-security/story?id=122409898

    New York Times says he sought asylum.

    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/06/02/us/boulder-colorado-attack-suspect

    Colorado Public Radio said he came to Colorado Springs from Kuwait on a
    tourist visa in August 2022 (expired February 2023) and then applied for
    asylum in September 2022. He was on a work permit while the application
    was pending.

    https://www.cpr.org/2025/06/02/boulder-attack-suspect-what-we-know/

    Several stories agree that he took a gun safety class to buy a gun but
    was prevented from doing so due to his citizenship status. Instead, he
    built the makeshift flame thrower and Molotov cocktails.

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Jun 3 20:23:53 2025
    On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 15:51:43 -0400, Rhino
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    I wonder if all those who have proclaimed over the years that incendiary
    rhetoric is responsible for inspiring people to commit violent acts will
    keep silent since, you know, Jews are the chosen scapegoats.

    If they don't condemn it, throw their own reasoning back on them by
    declaring that "silence is violence".

    If you've previously argued that that slogan is pure bull puckey on
    what grounds to you advocate it's use against anybody else?

    I can't remember a single report of someone Jewish ever physically
    attacking the protesters at any of the all-too-common pro-Hamas rallies,
    do you? It's almost like one side actually believes in freedom of speech
    and the other side doesn't....

    Well duh!

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Wed Jun 4 05:12:09 2025
    Adam H. Kerman <[email protected]> wrote:
    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:

    I was truly shocked to see news of this horrific attack just now:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/02/boulder-colorado-attack-rally

    The attacker has been apprehended; no bonus points for guessing that
    his first name is Mohamed.

    I hope he gets the death penalty and that the victims recover quickly.
    The report I read does not mention fatalities so I'm hoping the injuries >>aren't too bad although I imagine the psychological trauma is going to
    be very difficult to overcome if it can be overcome at all.

    I've heard different reports about the immigration status of the alleged >perpetrator Mohamed Sabry Soliman, 45. He was born in Egypt; the reports >agree he's an Egyptian national. He lived in Kuwait for 17 years.

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/boulder-attack-suspect-us-illegally-homeland-security/story?id=122409898

    New York Times says he sought asylum.

    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/06/02/us/boulder-colorado-attack-suspect

    Colorado Public Radio said he came to Colorado Springs from Kuwait on a >tourist visa in August 2022 (expired February 2023) and then applied for >asylum in September 2022. He was on a work permit while the application
    was pending.

    https://www.cpr.org/2025/06/02/boulder-attack-suspect-what-we-know/

    Several stories agree that he took a gun safety class to buy a gun but
    was prevented from doing so due to his citizenship status. Instead, he
    built the makeshift flame thrower and Molotov cocktails.

    From the updated AP article:

    Soliman's wife and five children were taken into custody Tuesday
    by federal immigration authorities and were being processed by
    Immigration and Customs Enforcement, said a DHS official,
    speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not
    authorized to speak publicly on the matter.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Rhino on Mon Jun 9 12:13:01 2025
    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:

    I was truly shocked to see news of this horrific attack just now:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/02/boulder-colorado-attack-rally

    The attacker has been apprehended; no bonus points for guessing that
    his first name is Mohamed.

    I hope he gets the death penalty and that the victims recover quickly.
    The report I read does not mention fatalities so I'm hoping the injuries >aren't too bad although I imagine the psychological trauma is going to
    be very difficult to overcome if it can be overcome at all.

    I just heard a report on NPR Morning Edition that the regular weekly
    march was held Sunday and that they were joined by members of a branch
    from Denver. There was also an already-scheduled Jewish cultural
    festival that took on a more somber note. A rabbi read out the names of
    those injured. They marched right to the place of the firebombing.

    There were police snipers on roofs. I think that would have bothered me
    and I don't see how a sniper is a countermeasure to a firebombing attack
    if there was concern for a copycat crime.

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Jun 14 22:13:44 2025
    On Tue, 3 Jun 2025 14:07:39 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    I've heard different reports about the immigration status of the alleged >perpetrator Mohamed Sabry Soliman, 45. He was born in Egypt; the reports >agree he's an Egyptian national. He lived in Kuwait for 17 years.

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/boulder-attack-suspect-us-illegally-homeland-security/story?id=122409898

    New York Times says he sought asylum.

    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/06/02/us/boulder-colorado-attack-suspect

    Colorado Public Radio said he came to Colorado Springs from Kuwait on a >tourist visa in August 2022 (expired February 2023) and then applied for >asylum in September 2022. He was on a work permit while the application
    was pending.

    https://www.cpr.org/2025/06/02/boulder-attack-suspect-what-we-know/

    Several stories agree that he took a gun safety class to buy a gun but
    was prevented from doing so due to his citizenship status. Instead, he
    built the makeshift flame thrower and Molotov cocktails.

    So what grounds could there possibly be to claim asylum in the US?

    I'll be the first to agree that neither Egypt nor Kuwait are heaven on
    earth but since when does that give an individual from these countries
    the right to enter the US illegally and claim asylum?

    As I understand the law (IANAL) shouldn't the judge's first question
    be to establish that the claimant has grounds to apply for asylum? And
    if they fail in that, the hearing should end in seconds with a denial
    and deportation order.

    Sure he has a right to a hearing but having gotten it, he doesn't have
    the right to have things his way (e.g. legal US status)

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to The Horny Goat on Sun Jun 15 05:22:29 2025
    The Horny Goat <[email protected]> wrote:
    Tue, 3 Jun 2025 14:07:39 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman <[email protected]>:

    I've heard different reports about the immigration status of the alleged >>perpetrator Mohamed Sabry Soliman, 45. He was born in Egypt; the reports >>agree he's an Egyptian national. He lived in Kuwait for 17 years.

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/boulder-attack-suspect-us-illegally-homeland-security/story?id=122409898

    New York Times says he sought asylum.

    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/06/02/us/boulder-colorado-attack-suspect

    Colorado Public Radio said he came to Colorado Springs from Kuwait on a >>tourist visa in August 2022 (expired February 2023) and then applied for >>asylum in September 2022. He was on a work permit while the application
    was pending.

    https://www.cpr.org/2025/06/02/boulder-attack-suspect-what-we-know/

    Several stories agree that he took a gun safety class to buy a gun but
    was prevented from doing so due to his citizenship status. Instead, he >>built the makeshift flame thrower and Molotov cocktails.

    So what grounds could there possibly be to claim asylum in the US?

    An asylum claimant would state a credible fear of death, trumped-up
    arrest, ethnic cleansing by a government actor. That's just to make the
    claim. Somehow the claim must be proven at the hearing.

    I'll be the first to agree that neither Egypt nor Kuwait are heaven on
    earth but since when does that give an individual from these countries
    the right to enter the US illegally and claim asylum?

    No news article said he entered illegally. Reread the quote above.

    As I understand the law (IANAL) shouldn't the judge's first question
    be to establish that the claimant has grounds to apply for asylum? And
    if they fail in that, the hearing should end in seconds with a denial
    and deportation order.

    He hadn't yet had his hearing.

    Sure he has a right to a hearing but having gotten it, he doesn't have
    the right to have things his way (e.g. legal US status)

    He hadn't gotten a hearing.

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