• [OT] Ontario's Main Street

    From Rhino@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 19 12:16:42 2025
    I just came across an interesting video about the 401, Ontario's main
    street. The presenter is an American so it's interesting to hear his
    point of view as opposed to those of locals. He points out that the 401
    is the busiest highway in North America, busier than anything in NYC,
    LA, Chicago or any other large city in the US of A. He covers the 401
    from its beginning in Windsor (just across from Detroit) to the Quebec
    border.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqyRmAVmUM0 [17 minutes]

    He does a good job in a relatively short amount of time. If you're
    curious to see what this road looks like or why it is so congested in
    parts of Toronto, this video will explain that.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Rhino on Mon May 19 17:16:41 2025
    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:

    I just came across an interesting video about the 401, Ontario's main
    street. The presenter is an American so it's interesting to hear his
    point of view as opposed to those of locals. He points out that the 401
    is the busiest highway in North America, busier than anything in NYC,
    LA, Chicago or any other large city in the US of A.

    I looked it up. In Chicago, the Kennedy (a friend of mine calls it the
    Ted) carries 327,000 vehicles per day. This runs northwest. The Dan Ryan carries over 300,000 per day. Both were built assuming less than half
    that demand, hahahahahahahahaha.

    He covers the 401
    from its beginning in Windsor (just across from Detroit) to the Quebec >border.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqyRmAVmUM0 [17 minutes]

    He does a good job in a relatively short amount of time. If you're
    curious to see what this road looks like or why it is so congested in
    parts of Toronto, this video will explain that.

    Same thing every expressway in Chicago is congested: Loss of freight rail capacity. Let's shoot ourselves in the foot.

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  • From shawn@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon May 19 13:28:22 2025
    On Mon, 19 May 2025 17:16:41 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:

    I just came across an interesting video about the 401, Ontario's main >>street. The presenter is an American so it's interesting to hear his
    point of view as opposed to those of locals. He points out that the 401
    is the busiest highway in North America, busier than anything in NYC,
    LA, Chicago or any other large city in the US of A.

    I looked it up. In Chicago, the Kennedy (a friend of mine calls it the
    Ted) carries 327,000 vehicles per day. This runs northwest. The Dan Ryan >carries over 300,000 per day. Both were built assuming less than half
    that demand, hahahahahahahahaha.

    Not bad.. I just looked up I-285 running around Atlanta and according
    to Google AI it says about two million people a day use the highway.
    Which I can believe.

    He covers the 401
    from its beginning in Windsor (just across from Detroit) to the Quebec >>border.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqyRmAVmUM0 [17 minutes]

    He does a good job in a relatively short amount of time. If you're
    curious to see what this road looks like or why it is so congested in
    parts of Toronto, this video will explain that.

    Same thing every expressway in Chicago is congested: Loss of freight rail >capacity. Let's shoot ourselves in the foot.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to shawn on Mon May 19 17:55:33 2025
    shawn <[email protected]> wrote:
    Mon, 19 May 2025 17:16:41 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman <[email protected]>: >>Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:

    I just came across an interesting video about the 401, Ontario's main >>>street. The presenter is an American so it's interesting to hear his >>>point of view as opposed to those of locals. He points out that the 401 >>>is the busiest highway in North America, busier than anything in NYC,
    LA, Chicago or any other large city in the US of A.

    I looked it up. In Chicago, the Kennedy (a friend of mine calls it the
    Ted) carries 327,000 vehicles per day. This runs northwest. The Dan Ryan >>carries over 300,000 per day. Both were built assuming less than half
    that demand, hahahahahahahahaha.

    Not bad.. I just looked up I-285 running around Atlanta and according
    to Google AI it says about two million people a day use the highway.
    Which I can believe.

    It's a circle bypass; no one is driving end-to-end, not that it ends.
    The maximum load point is 243,000 vehicles per day, although one article suggested 300,000 VPD, hard to believe. Compare Tri-State Tollway, the
    Chicago bypass, which is 120,000 to 185,000 VPD.

    . . .

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Mon May 19 14:16:29 2025
    On 2025-05-19 1:55 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    shawn <[email protected]> wrote:
    Mon, 19 May 2025 17:16:41 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman <[email protected]>:
    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:

    I just came across an interesting video about the 401, Ontario's main
    street. The presenter is an American so it's interesting to hear his
    point of view as opposed to those of locals. He points out that the 401 >>>> is the busiest highway in North America, busier than anything in NYC,
    LA, Chicago or any other large city in the US of A.

    I looked it up. In Chicago, the Kennedy (a friend of mine calls it the
    Ted) carries 327,000 vehicles per day. This runs northwest. The Dan Ryan >>> carries over 300,000 per day. Both were built assuming less than half
    that demand, hahahahahahahahaha.

    Not bad.. I just looked up I-285 running around Atlanta and according
    to Google AI it says about two million people a day use the highway.
    Which I can believe.

    It's a circle bypass; no one is driving end-to-end, not that it ends.
    The maximum load point is 243,000 vehicles per day, although one article suggested 300,000 VPD, hard to believe. Compare Tri-State Tollway, the Chicago bypass, which is 120,000 to 185,000 VPD.

    . . .

    While there are people that drive the 401 from end to end - one such
    truck driver appears in the comments - most of us only drive part of the highway when we're travelling. I use it to get to - or through - Toronto
    and I'm sure many others do likewise. People in Toronto use it to get
    around town as a local highway and may only get farther on rare occasions.

    --
    Rhino

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 19 18:30:36 2025
    On May 19, 2025 at 10:16:41 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:

    I just came across an interesting video about the 401, Ontario's main
    street. The presenter is an American so it's interesting to hear his
    point of view as opposed to those of locals. He points out that the 401
    is the busiest highway in North America, busier than anything in NYC,
    LA, Chicago or any other large city in the US of A.

    I looked it up. In Chicago, the Kennedy (a friend of mine calls it the
    Ted) carries 327,000 vehicles per day. This runs northwest. The Dan Ryan carries over 300,000 per day. Both were built assuming less than half
    that demand, hahahahahahahahaha.

    We've got 350,000 crossing over the Sepulveda Pass each day on the 405.

    He covers the 401
    from its beginning in Windsor (just across from Detroit) to the Quebec
    border.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqyRmAVmUM0 [17 minutes]

    He does a good job in a relatively short amount of time. If you're
    curious to see what this road looks like or why it is so congested in
    parts of Toronto, this video will explain that.

    Same thing every expressway in Chicago is congested: Loss of freight rail capacity. Let's shoot ourselves in the foot.

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 19 14:47:51 2025
    On 2025-05-19 2:30 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On May 19, 2025 at 10:16:41 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:

    I just came across an interesting video about the 401, Ontario's main
    street. The presenter is an American so it's interesting to hear his
    point of view as opposed to those of locals. He points out that the 401
    is the busiest highway in North America, busier than anything in NYC,
    LA, Chicago or any other large city in the US of A.

    I looked it up. In Chicago, the Kennedy (a friend of mine calls it the
    Ted) carries 327,000 vehicles per day. This runs northwest. The Dan Ryan
    carries over 300,000 per day. Both were built assuming less than half
    that demand, hahahahahahahahaha.

    We've got 350,000 crossing over the Sepulveda Pass each day on the 405.

    Wikipedia says this about the 401:

    It is one of the world's busiest highways;[6] a 2019 analysis stated the
    annual average daily traffic (AADT) count between Renforth Drive and
    Highway 427 in Toronto was at 450,300,[1] while a second study estimates
    that over 500,000 vehicles travel that section on some days.[5] This
    makes it North America's busiest roadway, surpassing the Santa Monica
    Freeway in Los Angeles and I-75 in Atlanta.[7][11]

    [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontario_Highway_401]

    He covers the 401
    from its beginning in Windsor (just across from Detroit) to the Quebec
    border.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqyRmAVmUM0 [17 minutes]

    He does a good job in a relatively short amount of time. If you're
    curious to see what this road looks like or why it is so congested in
    parts of Toronto, this video will explain that.

    Same thing every expressway in Chicago is congested: Loss of freight rail
    capacity. Let's shoot ourselves in the foot.





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    Rhino

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  • From shawn@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon May 19 15:44:17 2025
    On Mon, 19 May 2025 17:55:33 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    shawn <[email protected]> wrote:
    Mon, 19 May 2025 17:16:41 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman <[email protected]>: >>>Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:

    I just came across an interesting video about the 401, Ontario's main >>>>street. The presenter is an American so it's interesting to hear his >>>>point of view as opposed to those of locals. He points out that the 401 >>>>is the busiest highway in North America, busier than anything in NYC, >>>>LA, Chicago or any other large city in the US of A.

    I looked it up. In Chicago, the Kennedy (a friend of mine calls it the >>>Ted) carries 327,000 vehicles per day. This runs northwest. The Dan Ryan >>>carries over 300,000 per day. Both were built assuming less than half >>>that demand, hahahahahahahahaha.

    Not bad.. I just looked up I-285 running around Atlanta and according
    to Google AI it says about two million people a day use the highway.
    Which I can believe.

    It's a circle bypass; no one is driving end-to-end, not that it ends.

    Yes, the majority of the traffic is on the North end going between the Duluth/Lawrenceville area and the Marietta area. That's been a busy
    section for decades and seems to be that way most of the day. The
    other area is from the Lawrenceville area down the South-East
    corridor. Of course there's also the Larenceville-downtown Atlanta
    corridor but that gets backed up so that traffic doesn't even seem to
    move during rush hour.
    The maximum load point is 243,000 vehicles per day, although one article >suggested 300,000 VPD, hard to believe. Compare Tri-State Tollway, the >Chicago bypass, which is 120,000 to 185,000 VPD.

    . . .

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