• Spin Cycle: The Fix Is In, And There Was No Fix

    From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 19 05:02:10 2025
    XPost: alt.news-media

    With just days to go before the release of "Original Sin" -- a book exploring former President Joe Biden's obvious cognitive decline from Jake Tapper (CNN) and Alex Thompson (Axios) -- everyone on the Sunday political shows was
    talking about Biden, who knew what, and when they knew it.

    For those who don't spend their Sunday mornings glued to the television --
    and their Sunday afternoons attempting to dig through a week's worth of
    network and cable news media spin -- The Daily Wire has compiled a short summary of what you may have missed.

    If one were to simply watch those interviews cold, not having lived through four years of a Biden presidency or seen dozens of speeches and interviews
    even from midway through his single term, one might be inclined to believe
    the pundits and elected Democrats when they insisted that Biden was
    absolutely fine at least until his disaster of a televised debate with President Donald Trump -- and, according to at least one, he might even still be fine.

    But Democrats and pundits said those things to an audience made up of
    Americans who did watch Biden as he repeatedly got lost on stage, tripped up the stairs of Air Force One, alternately shouted and whispered at awkward times, and lost his train of thought on a regular basis. Still, they
    committed to the narrative -- Biden was definitely at his best until maybe
    the debate, and there was no reason for anyone to suggest otherwise or
    believe that anyone was covering up Biden's condition.

    On ABC's "This Week," Rep. Ro Khanna insisted that there was no cover-up, but also said that the people who had been closest to President Biden during the last year or so of his presidency owed the American people "an explanation -- but he did not clarify why they needed to explain if they were not covering anything up.

    "It's painfully obvious President Biden should not have run," Khanna said.

    "It's painfully obvious President Biden should not have run."

    Democratic Rep. Ro Khanna said there wasn't a cover-up of former
    Pres. Biden mental fitness ahead of the 2024 election, but added
    those close to Biden and his advisers "owe an explanation."
    https://t.co/MTbOVJxR88 pic.twitter.com/9UJQqpL4gF

    -- This Week (@ThisWeekABC) May 18, 2025

    During a panel discussion later on in the broadcast, former Democratic
    National Committee Chairwoman Donna Brazile claimed that since she had lost a step or two with age, it was totally fine for the same thing to have happened to Biden.

    "I'm going to stick by Joe Biden. And look, we all -- I don't have the pep in my step that I used to have," she said.

    On questions of former Pres. Biden's mental fitness ahead of the 2024
    election, former DNC chair @DonnaBrazile says, "I'm going to stick
    by Joe Biden. And look, we all -- I don't have the pep in my step
    that I used to have."https://t.co/KJmZwLyqkW
    pic.twitter.com/yPGHteC3gZ

    -- This Week (@ThisWeekABC) May 18, 2025

    Former Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus pushed back, noting that conservatives had been repeatedly mocked and gaslighted -- not to mention shut down by legacy media hosts -- when they stated the obvious about the president's declining faculties.

    "People were put to shame -- me and others out there -- that talked about Joe Biden's mental acuity ... The fact is they were managing his decline in a nursing home in the White House," he said.

    Former RNC chair @Reince Priebus: "People were put to shame -- me and
    others out there -- that talked about Joe Biden's mental acuity ...
    The fact is they were managing his decline in a nursing home in the
    White House." https://t.co/mEq24OQYpx pic.twitter.com/glQtYP9iwY

    -- This Week (@ThisWeekABC) May 18, 2025

    On CBS News' "Face the Nation," Sen. Chris Van Hollen (D-MD) took time out
    from defending criminal illegal alien gang members to address the recently released audio from Biden's interview with former Special Counsel Robert Hur
    -- which he said shed light on a problem that no one had been aware of at the time.

    "Obviously, if we could redo this tape and play it over again, we would do things differently," Van Hollen said. "I think we can acknowledge that this
    was a -- people overlooked a serious problem or were just not aware."

    "Hindsight is 20/20," Sen. Chris Van Hollen (D-MD) says of the audio
    tapes that have been released of then-President Biden's interview
    with special counsel Robert Hur, highlighting Biden's memory lapses
    at the time.

    "Obviously, if we could redo this tape and play it over again,...
    pic.twitter.com/iITJ2PC9aH

    -- Face The Nation (@FaceTheNation) May 18, 2025

    Sen. Chris Murphy (D-CT) took a similar approach on NBC's "Meet the Press," saying that Democrats might have encouraged Biden to exit the 2024
    presidential race sooner if only they had known. Murphy also said that Democrats had been wrong to brush off voters' concerns about Biden's acuity during the 2024 election cycle.

    In an exclusive interview with Meet the Press, Sen. Chris Murphy
    (D-Conn.) says that former President Biden should have exited the
    2024 race earlier as newly released audio tapes renew concerns over
    Biden's health and fitness while in office. https://t.co/KU1cqLKcHR
    pic.twitter.com/mTJHsYG5rI

    -- Meet the Press (@MeetThePress) May 18, 2025

    Rep. James Clyburn took things to a whole different level on CNN's "State of the Union," telling anchor Jake Tapper that he wasn't even sure Biden would
    be incapable of serving a second term in the White House.

    "Yes, I thought [he could serve another term] back then. I still think that, but I don't know that," he said.

    .@RepJamesClyburn on whether he still believes President Biden could
    have served another term: "Yes, I thought that back then. I still
    think that, but I don't know that." pic.twitter.com/hfRtH5REyl

    -- State of the Union (@CNNSOTU) May 18, 2025

    As to Biden's disastrous debate performance, Clyburn continued to play
    defense. "Whether or not that was just an incident or whether that was a condition that was being kept from people, we have no way of knowing which
    one was true," he claimed.

    .@RepJamesClyburn reflects on Biden's disastrous 2024 debate
    performance: "Whether or not that was just an incident or whether
    that was a condition that was being kept from people, we have no way
    of knowing which one was true." pic.twitter.com/Sso7mSltX0

    -- State of the Union (@CNNSOTU) May 18, 2025

    Van Jones and David Axelrod were less magnanimous to Biden, his White House, and the party that enabled him.

    "There are people who knew and said nothing, and that is a crime against this Republic," Jones said.

    "I blame the people around him," Axelrod added. "Real loyalty demanded that they say, 'Mr. President, it's just not there and it's not in your interest' [to run again]."

    Longtime Democratic strategists react to new reporting that top
    Biden aides hid signs of decline from the public.@VanJones68: "There
    are people who knew and said nothing, and that is a crime against
    this Republic."@davidaxelrod: "I blame the people around him... real
    loyalty... pic.twitter.com/Obz2wpk3Jm

    -- State of the Union (@CNNSOTU) May 18, 2025

    --
    Let's go Brandon!

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Mon May 19 12:24:41 2025
    XPost: alt.news-media

    On 2025-05-19 5:02 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    With just days to go before the release of "Original Sin" -- a book exploring former President Joe Biden's obvious cognitive decline from Jake Tapper (CNN) and Alex Thompson (Axios) -- everyone on the Sunday political shows was talking about Biden, who knew what, and when they knew it.

    For those who don't spend their Sunday mornings glued to the television -- and their Sunday afternoons attempting to dig through a week's worth of network and cable news media spin -- The Daily Wire has compiled a short summary of what you may have missed.

    If one were to simply watch those interviews cold, not having lived through four years of a Biden presidency or seen dozens of speeches and interviews even from midway through his single term, one might be inclined to believe the pundits and elected Democrats when they insisted that Biden was absolutely fine at least until his disaster of a televised debate with President Donald Trump -- and, according to at least one, he might even still be fine.

    But Democrats and pundits said those things to an audience made up of Americans who did watch Biden as he repeatedly got lost on stage, tripped up the stairs of Air Force One, alternately shouted and whispered at awkward times, and lost his train of thought on a regular basis. Still, they committed to the narrative -- Biden was definitely at his best until maybe the debate, and there was no reason for anyone to suggest otherwise or believe that anyone was covering up Biden's condition.

    On ABC's "This Week," Rep. Ro Khanna insisted that there was no cover-up, but also said that the people who had been closest to President Biden during the last year or so of his presidency owed the American people "an explanation -- but he did not clarify why they needed to explain if they were not covering anything up.

    "It's painfully obvious President Biden should not have run," Khanna said.

    "It's painfully obvious President Biden should not have run."

    Democratic Rep. Ro Khanna said there wasn't a cover-up of former
    Pres. Biden mental fitness ahead of the 2024 election, but added
    those close to Biden and his advisers "owe an explanation."
    https://t.co/MTbOVJxR88 pic.twitter.com/9UJQqpL4gF

    -- This Week (@ThisWeekABC) May 18, 2025

    During a panel discussion later on in the broadcast, former Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Donna Brazile claimed that since she had lost a step or two with age, it was totally fine for the same thing to have happened to Biden.

    "I'm going to stick by Joe Biden. And look, we all -- I don't have the pep in my step that I used to have," she said.

    On questions of former Pres. Biden's mental fitness ahead of the 2024
    election, former DNC chair @DonnaBrazile says, "I'm going to stick
    by Joe Biden. And look, we all -- I don't have the pep in my step
    that I used to have."https://t.co/KJmZwLyqkW
    pic.twitter.com/yPGHteC3gZ

    -- This Week (@ThisWeekABC) May 18, 2025

    Former Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus pushed back, noting that conservatives had been repeatedly mocked and gaslighted -- not to mention shut down by legacy media hosts -- when they stated the obvious about the president's declining faculties.

    "People were put to shame -- me and others out there -- that talked about Joe Biden's mental acuity ... The fact is they were managing his decline in a nursing home in the White House," he said.

    Former RNC chair @Reince Priebus: "People were put to shame -- me and
    others out there -- that talked about Joe Biden's mental acuity ...
    The fact is they were managing his decline in a nursing home in the
    White House." https://t.co/mEq24OQYpx pic.twitter.com/glQtYP9iwY

    -- This Week (@ThisWeekABC) May 18, 2025

    On CBS News' "Face the Nation," Sen. Chris Van Hollen (D-MD) took time out from defending criminal illegal alien gang members to address the recently released audio from Biden's interview with former Special Counsel Robert Hur -- which he said shed light on a problem that no one had been aware of at the time.

    "Obviously, if we could redo this tape and play it over again, we would do things differently," Van Hollen said. "I think we can acknowledge that this was a -- people overlooked a serious problem or were just not aware."

    "Hindsight is 20/20," Sen. Chris Van Hollen (D-MD) says of the audio
    tapes that have been released of then-President Biden's interview
    with special counsel Robert Hur, highlighting Biden's memory lapses
    at the time.

    "Obviously, if we could redo this tape and play it over again,...
    pic.twitter.com/iITJ2PC9aH

    -- Face The Nation (@FaceTheNation) May 18, 2025

    Sen. Chris Murphy (D-CT) took a similar approach on NBC's "Meet the Press," saying that Democrats might have encouraged Biden to exit the 2024 presidential race sooner if only they had known. Murphy also said that Democrats had been wrong to brush off voters' concerns about Biden's acuity during the 2024 election cycle.

    In an exclusive interview with Meet the Press, Sen. Chris Murphy
    (D-Conn.) says that former President Biden should have exited the
    2024 race earlier as newly released audio tapes renew concerns over
    Biden's health and fitness while in office. https://t.co/KU1cqLKcHR
    pic.twitter.com/mTJHsYG5rI

    -- Meet the Press (@MeetThePress) May 18, 2025

    Rep. James Clyburn took things to a whole different level on CNN's "State of the Union," telling anchor Jake Tapper that he wasn't even sure Biden would be incapable of serving a second term in the White House.

    "Yes, I thought [he could serve another term] back then. I still think that, but I don't know that," he said.

    .@RepJamesClyburn on whether he still believes President Biden could
    have served another term: "Yes, I thought that back then. I still
    think that, but I don't know that." pic.twitter.com/hfRtH5REyl

    -- State of the Union (@CNNSOTU) May 18, 2025

    As to Biden's disastrous debate performance, Clyburn continued to play defense. "Whether or not that was just an incident or whether that was a condition that was being kept from people, we have no way of knowing which one was true," he claimed.

    .@RepJamesClyburn reflects on Biden's disastrous 2024 debate
    performance: "Whether or not that was just an incident or whether
    that was a condition that was being kept from people, we have no way
    of knowing which one was true." pic.twitter.com/Sso7mSltX0

    -- State of the Union (@CNNSOTU) May 18, 2025

    Van Jones and David Axelrod were less magnanimous to Biden, his White House, and the party that enabled him.

    "There are people who knew and said nothing, and that is a crime against this Republic," Jones said.

    "I blame the people around him," Axelrod added. "Real loyalty demanded that they say, 'Mr. President, it's just not there and it's not in your interest' [to run again]."

    Longtime Democratic strategists react to new reporting that top
    Biden aides hid signs of decline from the public.@VanJones68: "There
    are people who knew and said nothing, and that is a crime against
    this Republic."@davidaxelrod: "I blame the people around him... real
    loyalty... pic.twitter.com/Obz2wpk3Jm

    -- State of the Union (@CNNSOTU) May 18, 2025


    Is it too late to charge Dr. Jill with elder abuse?

    I don't suppose there's anything that can be done legally about the
    media lies about Biden being sharp as a tack but that probably doesn't
    matter. We know now that they are shameless liars and their credibility
    has suffered a well-earned decline. They are surely aware of that as
    their ratings/sales fall ever further.

    I don't see much of an effort to clean up their acts either: they still
    seem determined to gaslight the public with yet more of the same
    hysteria that they greeted every word and action uttered by Trump and
    his people in his first term. They only calm down when a Democrat is in
    the White House and they can go into full-time fluffer mode.

    It's fine though. They are destroying themselves so here's hoping
    they're completely irrelevant in the near future.

    --
    Rhino

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Rhino on Mon May 19 17:03:29 2025
    Crosspost to newsgroups Ubi doesn't read cut

    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2025-05-19 5:02 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Here's the citation to the story that Ubi the shithead plagarized.

    Spin Cycle: The Fix Is In, And There Was No Fix:
    They committed to the narrative...
    By Virginia Kruta
    The Daily Wire
    May 19, 2025 https://www.dailywire.com/news/spin-cycle-the-fix-is-in-and-there-was-no-fix

    With just days to go before the release of "Original Sin" -- a book exploring >>former President Joe Biden's obvious cognitive decline from Jake Tapper (CNN) >>and Alex Thompson (Axios) -- everyone on the Sunday political shows was >>talking about Biden, who knew what, and when they knew it.

    For those who don't spend their Sunday mornings glued to the television -- >>and their Sunday afternoons attempting to dig through a week's worth of >>network and cable news media spin -- The Daily Wire has compiled a short >>summary of what you may have missed.

    . . .

    Rep. James Clyburn took things to a whole different level on CNN's "State of >>the Union," telling anchor Jake Tapper that he wasn't even sure Biden would >>be incapable of serving a second term in the White House.

    "Yes, I thought [he could serve another term] back then. I still think that, >>but I don't know that," he said.

    .@RepJamesClyburn on whether he still believes President Biden could
    have served another term: "Yes, I thought that back then. I still
    think that, but I don't know that." pic.twitter.com/hfRtH5REyl

    -- State of the Union (@CNNSOTU) May 18, 2025

    As to Biden's disastrous debate performance, Clyburn continued to play >>defense. "Whether or not that was just an incident or whether that was a >>condition that was being kept from people, we have no way of knowing which >>one was true," he claimed.

    .@RepJamesClyburn reflects on Biden's disastrous 2024 debate
    performance: "Whether or not that was just an incident or whether
    that was a condition that was being kept from people, we have no way
    of knowing which one was true." pic.twitter.com/Sso7mSltX0

    -- State of the Union (@CNNSOTU) May 18, 2025

    . . .

    Is it too late to charge Dr. Jill with elder abuse?

    I don't suppose there's anything that can be done legally about the
    media lies about Biden being sharp as a tack but that probably doesn't >matter. We know now that they are shameless liars and their credibility
    has suffered a well-earned decline. They are surely aware of that as
    their ratings/sales fall ever further.

    I don't see much of an effort to clean up their acts either: they still
    seem determined to gaslight the public with yet more of the same
    hysteria that they greeted every word and action uttered by Trump and
    his people in his first term. They only calm down when a Democrat is in
    the White House and they can go into full-time fluffer mode.

    It's fine though. They are destroying themselves so here's hoping
    they're completely irrelevant in the near future.

    You might have noticed that America works poorly with two irrelevant
    national political parties.

    You're not going to learn anything about the book from those talking
    heads. They're the target of the book. I listened to radio interviews
    with the authors. It was quite disturbing. David Plouffe spoke on record;
    no one else did. Most recently, he managed Kamala's campaign.

    The "original sin" of the title was not letting Biden have his choice
    for running mate -- Gretchen Whitmer -- after the death of George Floyd.
    No one in his administration wanted to work with Kamala and no one
    thought she was ready to be president nor win an election.

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Mon May 19 13:52:59 2025
    On 2025-05-19 1:03 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Crosspost to newsgroups Ubi doesn't read cut

    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2025-05-19 5:02 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Here's the citation to the story that Ubi the shithead plagarized.

    Spin Cycle: The Fix Is In, And There Was No Fix:
    They committed to the narrative...
    By Virginia Kruta
    The Daily Wire
    May 19, 2025 https://www.dailywire.com/news/spin-cycle-the-fix-is-in-and-there-was-no-fix

    With just days to go before the release of "Original Sin" -- a book exploring
    former President Joe Biden's obvious cognitive decline from Jake Tapper (CNN)
    and Alex Thompson (Axios) -- everyone on the Sunday political shows was
    talking about Biden, who knew what, and when they knew it.

    For those who don't spend their Sunday mornings glued to the television -- >>> and their Sunday afternoons attempting to dig through a week's worth of
    network and cable news media spin -- The Daily Wire has compiled a short >>> summary of what you may have missed.

    . . .

    Rep. James Clyburn took things to a whole different level on CNN's "State of
    the Union," telling anchor Jake Tapper that he wasn't even sure Biden would >>> be incapable of serving a second term in the White House.

    "Yes, I thought [he could serve another term] back then. I still think that,
    but I don't know that," he said.

    .@RepJamesClyburn on whether he still believes President Biden could >>> have served another term: "Yes, I thought that back then. I still
    think that, but I don't know that." pic.twitter.com/hfRtH5REyl

    -- State of the Union (@CNNSOTU) May 18, 2025

    As to Biden's disastrous debate performance, Clyburn continued to play
    defense. "Whether or not that was just an incident or whether that was a >>> condition that was being kept from people, we have no way of knowing which >>> one was true," he claimed.

    .@RepJamesClyburn reflects on Biden's disastrous 2024 debate
    performance: "Whether or not that was just an incident or whether
    that was a condition that was being kept from people, we have no way >>> of knowing which one was true." pic.twitter.com/Sso7mSltX0

    -- State of the Union (@CNNSOTU) May 18, 2025

    . . .

    Is it too late to charge Dr. Jill with elder abuse?

    I don't suppose there's anything that can be done legally about the
    media lies about Biden being sharp as a tack but that probably doesn't
    matter. We know now that they are shameless liars and their credibility
    has suffered a well-earned decline. They are surely aware of that as
    their ratings/sales fall ever further.

    I don't see much of an effort to clean up their acts either: they still
    seem determined to gaslight the public with yet more of the same
    hysteria that they greeted every word and action uttered by Trump and
    his people in his first term. They only calm down when a Democrat is in
    the White House and they can go into full-time fluffer mode.

    It's fine though. They are destroying themselves so here's hoping
    they're completely irrelevant in the near future.

    You might have noticed that America works poorly with two irrelevant
    national political parties.

    You're not going to learn anything about the book from those talking
    heads. They're the target of the book. I listened to radio interviews
    with the authors. It was quite disturbing. David Plouffe spoke on record;
    no one else did. Most recently, he managed Kamala's campaign.

    The "original sin" of the title was not letting Biden have his choice
    for running mate -- Gretchen Whitmer -- after the death of George Floyd.
    No one in his administration wanted to work with Kamala and no one
    thought she was ready to be president nor win an election.

    But Harris was "black" so that seemed like an obvious vote-getter with
    the Democrats' traditional base, even though a lot of blacks see her as
    more South Asian than one of them. Either way, lots of obvious virtue-signalling points for including Harris on the ticket. Too bad she
    was such an unlikable candidate. In any case, America really dodged a
    bullet when she failed to excite the electorate.

    The Dems have only themselves to blame for their president parlous
    state. They ended up running Biden when he was well past his prime
    because he was the only one who had a chance against Comrade Bernie and
    then saddled him with Harris who was much more an anchor than a sail.
    They must have seen how depleted Biden was because they hid him away as
    much as they could and counted on their allies in the media to deny his decline. Then they staged that first debate with Trump months earlier
    than usual and finally EVERYONE could see that Biden didn't have another
    term in him.

    Personally, I think that debate happened so early because the people
    pulling his strings were certain he was too far gone to run again but
    hadn't been able to convince him - and Dr. Jill - that he was done so
    they had the debate BECAUSE they knew he would shit the bed AND BE SEEN
    TO HAVE DONE SO. It was so bad that they were finally able to get the
    House and Senate to (largely) abandon him. Finally, Biden understood
    that he was done and stepped aside.

    But then, rather than having a proper convention to choose a new
    candidate from among several prospects, they essentially appointed
    Harris. I don't really understand how that happened and can only
    speculate that none of the other potential candidates thought they had a
    chance of winning from a start that close to Election Day and just
    decided to give it to Harris unopposed. They raised a bunch of money and
    gave it to her, she blew it all, but failed to impress as a candidate.

    The Democrats messed up all the way along by not building a bench of
    potential candidates going back to Obama's time in office. Everything
    else follows from that.

    --
    Rhino

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  • From suzeeq@21:1/5 to Rhino on Mon May 19 11:22:51 2025
    On 5/19/2025 10:52 AM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2025-05-19 1:03 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Crosspost to newsgroups Ubi doesn't read cut

    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2025-05-19 5:02 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Here's the citation to the story that Ubi the shithead plagarized.

    Spin Cycle: The Fix Is In, And There Was No Fix:
    They committed to the narrative...
    By Virginia Kruta
    The Daily Wire
    May 19, 2025
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/spin-cycle-the-fix-is-in-and-there-was-no-fix >>

    With just days to go before the release of "Original Sin" -- a book
    exploring
    former President Joe Biden's obvious cognitive decline from Jake
    Tapper (CNN)
    and Alex Thompson (Axios) -- everyone on the Sunday political shows was >>>> talking about Biden, who knew what, and when they knew it.

    For those who don't spend their Sunday mornings glued to the
    television --
    and their Sunday afternoons attempting to dig through a week's worth of >>>> network and cable news media spin -- The Daily Wire has compiled a
    short
    summary of what you may have missed.

    . . .

    Rep. James Clyburn took things to a whole different level on CNN's
    "State of
    the Union," telling anchor Jake Tapper that he wasn't even sure
    Biden would
    be incapable of serving a second term in the White House.

    "Yes, I thought [he could serve another term] back then. I still
    think that,
    but I don't know that," he said.

        .@RepJamesClyburn on whether he still believes President Biden >>>> could
        have served another term: "Yes, I thought that back then. I still >>>>     think that, but I don't know that." pic.twitter.com/hfRtH5REyl

        -- State of the Union (@CNNSOTU) May 18, 2025

    As to Biden's disastrous debate performance, Clyburn continued to play >>>> defense. "Whether or not that was just an incident or whether that
    was a
    condition that was being kept from people, we have no way of knowing
    which
    one was true," he claimed.

        .@RepJamesClyburn reflects on Biden's disastrous 2024 debate
        performance: "Whether or not that was just an incident or whether >>>>     that was a condition that was being kept from people, we have no >>>> way
        of knowing which one was true." pic.twitter.com/Sso7mSltX0

        -- State of the Union (@CNNSOTU) May 18, 2025

    . . .

    Is it too late to charge Dr. Jill with elder abuse?


    For the record, Dr Jill is a PHD, not an MD. So there's nothing to
    charge her with.

    I don't suppose there's anything that can be done legally about the
    media lies about Biden being sharp as a tack but that probably doesn't
    matter. We know now that they are shameless liars and their credibility
    has suffered a well-earned decline. They are surely aware of that as
    their ratings/sales fall ever further.

    I don't see much of an effort to clean up their acts either: they still
    seem determined to gaslight the public with yet more of the same
    hysteria that they greeted every word and action uttered by Trump and
    his people in his first term. They only calm down when a Democrat is in
    the White House and they can go into full-time fluffer mode.

    It's fine though. They are destroying themselves so here's hoping
    they're completely irrelevant in the near future.

    You might have noticed that America works poorly with two irrelevant
    national political parties.

    You're not going to learn anything about the book from those talking
    heads. They're the target of the book. I listened to radio interviews
    with the authors. It was quite disturbing. David Plouffe spoke on record;
    no one else did. Most recently, he managed Kamala's campaign.

    The "original sin" of the title was not letting Biden have his choice
    for running mate -- Gretchen Whitmer -- after the death of George Floyd.
    No one in his administration wanted to work with Kamala and no one
    thought she was ready to be president nor win an election.

    But Harris was "black" so that seemed like an obvious vote-getter with
    the Democrats' traditional base, even though a lot of blacks see her as
    more South Asian than one of them. Either way, lots of obvious virtue-signalling points for including Harris on the ticket. Too bad she
    was such an unlikable candidate. In any case, America really dodged a
    bullet when she failed to excite the electorate.

    The Dems have only themselves to blame for their president parlous
    state. They ended up running Biden when he was well past his prime
    because he was the only one who had a chance against Comrade Bernie and
    then saddled him with Harris who was much more an anchor than a sail.
    They must have seen how depleted Biden was because they hid him away as
    much as they could and counted on their allies in the media to deny his decline. Then they staged that first debate with Trump months earlier
    than usual and finally EVERYONE could see that Biden didn't have another
    term in him.

    Personally, I think that debate happened so early because the people
    pulling his strings were certain he was too far gone to run again but
    hadn't been able to convince him - and Dr. Jill - that he was done so
    they had the debate BECAUSE they knew he would shit the bed AND BE SEEN
    TO HAVE DONE SO. It was so bad that they were finally able to get the
    House and Senate to (largely) abandon him. Finally, Biden understood
    that he was done and stepped aside.

    But then, rather than having a proper convention to choose a new
    candidate from among several prospects, they essentially appointed
    Harris. I don't really understand how that happened and can only
    speculate that none of the other potential candidates thought they had a chance of winning from a start that close to Election Day and just
    decided to give it to Harris unopposed. They raised a bunch of money and
    gave it to her, she blew it all, but failed to impress as a candidate.

    The Democrats messed up all the way along by not building a bench of potential candidates going back to Obama's time in office. Everything
    else follows from that.


    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 19 18:28:28 2025
    On May 19, 2025 at 10:03:29 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Crosspost to newsgroups Ubi doesn't read cut

    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:

    Is it too late to charge Dr. Jill with elder abuse?

    I don't suppose there's anything that can be done legally about the
    media lies about Biden being sharp as a tack but that probably doesn't
    matter. We know now that they are shameless liars and their credibility
    has suffered a well-earned decline. They are surely aware of that as
    their ratings/sales fall ever further.

    I don't see much of an effort to clean up their acts either: they still
    seem determined to gaslight the public with yet more of the same
    hysteria that they greeted every word and action uttered by Trump and
    his people in his first term. They only calm down when a Democrat is in
    the White House and they can go into full-time fluffer mode.

    It's fine though. They are destroying themselves so here's hoping
    they're completely irrelevant in the near future.

    You might have noticed that America works poorly with two irrelevant
    national political parties.

    You're not going to learn anything about the book from those talking
    heads. They're the target of the book. I listened to radio interviews
    with the authors. It was quite disturbing. David Plouffe spoke on record;
    no one else did. Most recently, he managed Kamala's campaign.

    The "original sin" of the title was not letting Biden have his choice
    for running mate -- Gretchen Whitmer -- after the death of George Floyd.
    No one in his administration wanted to work with Kamala and no one
    thought she was ready to be president nor win an election.

    And yet it looks like the powers-that-be are maneuvering her to be the next governor of California. If that happens, Illinois can just give up. It'll
    never catch California in the race to the bottom.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to suzeeq on Mon May 19 18:32:57 2025
    On May 19, 2025 at 11:22:51 AM PDT, "suzeeq" <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 5/19/2025 10:52 AM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2025-05-19 1:03 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Crosspost to newsgroups Ubi doesn't read cut

    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2025-05-19 5:02 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Here's the citation to the story that Ubi the shithead plagarized.

    Spin Cycle: The Fix Is In, And There Was No Fix:
    They committed to the narrative...
    By Virginia Kruta
    The Daily Wire
    May 19, 2025

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/spin-cycle-the-fix-is-in-and-there-was-no-fix



    With just days to go before the release of "Original Sin" -- a book >>>>> exploring
    former President Joe Biden's obvious cognitive decline from Jake
    Tapper (CNN)
    and Alex Thompson (Axios) -- everyone on the Sunday political shows was >>>>> talking about Biden, who knew what, and when they knew it.

    For those who don't spend their Sunday mornings glued to the
    television --
    and their Sunday afternoons attempting to dig through a week's worth of >>>>> network and cable news media spin -- The Daily Wire has compiled a
    short
    summary of what you may have missed.

    . . .

    Rep. James Clyburn took things to a whole different level on CNN's
    "State of
    the Union," telling anchor Jake Tapper that he wasn't even sure
    Biden would
    be incapable of serving a second term in the White House.

    "Yes, I thought [he could serve another term] back then. I still
    think that,
    but I don't know that," he said.

        .@RepJamesClyburn on whether he still believes President Biden >>>>> could
        have served another term: "Yes, I thought that back then. I still
        think that, but I don't know that." pic.twitter.com/hfRtH5REyl >>>
        -- State of the Union (@CNNSOTU) May 18, 2025

    As to Biden's disastrous debate performance, Clyburn continued to play >>>>> defense. "Whether or not that was just an incident or whether that
    was a
    condition that was being kept from people, we have no way of knowing >>>>> which
    one was true," he claimed.

        .@RepJamesClyburn reflects on Biden's disastrous 2024 debate >>>>>     performance: "Whether or not that was just an incident or whether
        that was a condition that was being kept from people, we have no >>>>> way
        of knowing which one was true." pic.twitter.com/Sso7mSltX0

        -- State of the Union (@CNNSOTU) May 18, 2025

    . . .

    Is it too late to charge Dr. Jill with elder abuse?


    For the record, Dr Jill is a PHD, not an MD. So there's nothing to
    charge her with.

    Even people without college degrees can be charged with elder abuse.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From suzeeq@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 19 11:55:30 2025
    On 5/19/2025 11:32 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On May 19, 2025 at 11:22:51 AM PDT, "suzeeq" <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 5/19/2025 10:52 AM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2025-05-19 1:03 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Crosspost to newsgroups Ubi doesn't read cut

    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2025-05-19 5:02 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Here's the citation to the story that Ubi the shithead plagarized.

    Spin Cycle: The Fix Is In, And There Was No Fix:
    They committed to the narrative...
    By Virginia Kruta
    The Daily Wire
    May 19, 2025

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/spin-cycle-the-fix-is-in-and-there-was-no-fix



    With just days to go before the release of "Original Sin" -- a book >>>>>> exploring
    former President Joe Biden's obvious cognitive decline from Jake >>>>>> Tapper (CNN)
    and Alex Thompson (Axios) -- everyone on the Sunday political shows was
    talking about Biden, who knew what, and when they knew it.

    For those who don't spend their Sunday mornings glued to the
    television --
    and their Sunday afternoons attempting to dig through a week's worth of
    network and cable news media spin -- The Daily Wire has compiled a >>>>>> short
    summary of what you may have missed.

    . . .

    Rep. James Clyburn took things to a whole different level on CNN's >>>>>> "State of
    the Union," telling anchor Jake Tapper that he wasn't even sure
    Biden would
    be incapable of serving a second term in the White House.

    "Yes, I thought [he could serve another term] back then. I still >>>>>> think that,
    but I don't know that," he said.

        .@RepJamesClyburn on whether he still believes President Biden >>>>>> could
        have served another term: "Yes, I thought that back then. I still
        think that, but I don't know that." pic.twitter.com/hfRtH5REyl >>>>
        -- State of the Union (@CNNSOTU) May 18, 2025

    As to Biden's disastrous debate performance, Clyburn continued to play >>>>>> defense. "Whether or not that was just an incident or whether that >>>>>> was a
    condition that was being kept from people, we have no way of knowing >>>>>> which
    one was true," he claimed.

        .@RepJamesClyburn reflects on Biden's disastrous 2024 debate >>>>>>     performance: "Whether or not that was just an incident or whether
        that was a condition that was being kept from people, we have no
    way
        of knowing which one was true." pic.twitter.com/Sso7mSltX0 >>>>
        -- State of the Union (@CNNSOTU) May 18, 2025

    . . .

    Is it too late to charge Dr. Jill with elder abuse?


    For the record, Dr Jill is a PHD, not an MD. So there's nothing to
    charge her with.

    Even people without college degrees can be charged with elder abuse.

    Donnie Jr's post seemed to imply that she was a medical doctor who
    should have seen the symptoms. A wife, with or without a degree, likely
    would not.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Rhino on Mon May 19 19:01:15 2025
    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2025-05-19 1:03 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:
    2025-05-19 5:02 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Here's the citation to the story that Ubi the shithead plagarized.

    Spin Cycle: The Fix Is In, And There Was No Fix:
    They committed to the narrative...
    By Virginia Kruta
    The Daily Wire
    May 19, 2025 >>https://www.dailywire.com/news/spin-cycle-the-fix-is-in-and-there-was-no-fix

    With just days to go before the release of "Original Sin" -- a book >>>>exploring former President Joe Biden's obvious cognitive decline from >>>>Jake Tapper (CNN) and Alex Thompson (Axios) -- everyone on the Sunday >>>>political shows was talking about Biden, who knew what, and when they >>>>knew it.

    For those who don't spend their Sunday mornings glued to the television -- >>>>and their Sunday afternoons attempting to dig through a week's worth of >>>>network and cable news media spin -- The Daily Wire has compiled a short >>>>summary of what you may have missed.

    . . .

    Rep. James Clyburn took things to a whole different level on CNN's >>>>"State of the Union," telling anchor Jake Tapper that he wasn't
    even sure Biden would be incapable of serving a second term in the >>>>White House.

    ">>>>Yes, I thought [he could serve another term] back then. I still
    think that, but I don't know that," he said.

    .@RepJamesClyburn on whether he still believes President Biden could >>>> have served another term: "Yes, I thought that back then. I still
    think that, but I don't know that." pic.twitter.com/hfRtH5REyl

    -- State of the Union (@CNNSOTU) May 18, 2025

    As to Biden's disastrous debate performance, Clyburn continued to
    play defense. "Whether or not that was just an incident or whether
    that was a condition that was being kept from people, we have no way
    of knowing which one was true," he claimed.

    .@RepJamesClyburn reflects on Biden's disastrous 2024 debate
    performance: "Whether or not that was just an incident or whether
    that was a condition that was being kept from people, we have no way >>>> of knowing which one was true." pic.twitter.com/Sso7mSltX0

    -- State of the Union (@CNNSOTU) May 18, 2025

    . . .

    Is it too late to charge Dr. Jill with elder abuse?

    I don't suppose there's anything that can be done legally about the
    media lies about Biden being sharp as a tack but that probably doesn't >>>matter. We know now that they are shameless liars and their credibility >>>has suffered a well-earned decline. They are surely aware of that as >>>their ratings/sales fall ever further.

    I don't see much of an effort to clean up their acts either: they still >>>seem determined to gaslight the public with yet more of the same
    hysteria that they greeted every word and action uttered by Trump and
    his people in his first term. They only calm down when a Democrat is in >>>the White House and they can go into full-time fluffer mode.

    It's fine though. They are destroying themselves so here's hoping
    they're completely irrelevant in the near future.

    You might have noticed that America works poorly with two irrelevant >>national political parties.

    You're not going to learn anything about the book from those talking
    heads. They're the target of the book. I listened to radio interviews
    with the authors. It was quite disturbing. David Plouffe spoke on record; >>no one else did. Most recently, he managed Kamala's campaign.

    The "original sin" of the title was not letting Biden have his choice
    for running mate -- Gretchen Whitmer -- after the death of George Floyd.
    No one in his administration wanted to work with Kamala and no one
    thought she was ready to be president nor win an election.

    But Harris was "black" so that seemed like an obvious vote-getter with
    the Democrats' traditional base, even though a lot of blacks see her as
    more South Asian than one of them.

    She's black; no air quotes. She's not African-American (decended from
    American slaves). And she's not like blacks generally as a daughter of
    two university professors, although she was largely raised by a single
    mother after their divorce.

    I don't agree it's mixed ancestry, which applies to nearly every black
    person in America, but how she grew up.

    Either way, lots of obvious virtue-signalling points for including Harris
    on the ticket. Too bad she was such an unlikable candidate. In any case, >America really dodged a bullet when she failed to excite the electorate.

    Because it was virtue signalling, she was hampered in achieving any sort
    of popularity, not to mention failing to excel at politics.

    The Dems have only themselves to blame for their president parlous
    state. They ended up running Biden when he was well past his prime
    because he was the only one who had a chance against Comrade Bernie and
    then saddled him with Harris who was much more an anchor than a sail.

    Bernie's popularity plateaued. He could never come anywhere close to
    winning a general election. If Bernie had been more popular, I wouldn't
    have ruled him out as the nominee in 2020.

    They must have seen how depleted Biden was because they hid him away as
    much as they could and counted on their allies in the media to deny his >decline. Then they staged that first debate with Trump months earlier
    than usual and finally EVERYONE could see that Biden didn't have another
    term in him.

    It hadn't occurred to me at the time but the authors pointed out that
    the Biden campaign agreed to a 9 pm start time, when Biden's energy was depleted by late afternoon. That was insanity. Nor did it help that
    Biden was nursing a cold.

    Personally, I think that debate happened so early because the people
    pulling his strings were certain he was too far gone to run again but
    hadn't been able to convince him - and Dr. Jill - that he was done so
    they had the debate BECAUSE they knew he would shit the bed AND BE SEEN
    TO HAVE DONE SO. It was so bad that they were finally able to get the
    House and Senate to (largely) abandon him. Finally, Biden understood
    that he was done and stepped aside.

    I certainly don't agree. They despised Kamala. 13 weeks out from the
    convention was too late for primaries. The book's authors were too
    worried about Josh Shapiro seeking the nomination, so they said one of
    her first calls was to him. He immediately agreed to endorse her and
    that meant there would be no open primary. The authors commented that JB Pritzker called around hoping someone else would challenge her so he
    could step in. He didn't want to be the only candidate challenging her.

    Biden needed to announce he wouldn't seek a second term during 2023 for
    there to be an open primary.

    But then, rather than having a proper convention to choose a new
    candidate from among several prospects, they essentially appointed
    Harris. I don't really understand how that happened and can only
    speculate that none of the other potential candidates thought they had a >chance of winning from a start that close to Election Day and just
    decided to give it to Harris unopposed. They raised a bunch of money and
    gave it to her, she blew it all, but failed to impress as a candidate.

    Nah. They just didn't like the politics of running against her.

    The Democrats messed up all the way along by not building a bench of >potential candidates going back to Obama's time in office. Everything
    else follows from that.

    It... doesn't work like that. Obama came out of nowhere but gave that
    one fantastic convention speech. Through a series of coincidences and
    not because he was popular, he became United States Senator, and then immediately started running for president. He couldn't stay in the
    Senate unless he wanted to be a career Senator because he'd get saddled
    with baggage.

    There's no way to build candidates in waiting. They themselves have to
    achieve something special in politics that cannot be imposed from
    outside.

    I'm sorr of finding Andy Beshear a bit refreshing as he's one of the few Democrats who actually wins rural votes. Everyone else seeks votes from
    city and suburbs without seeking votes from rural voters. We're the
    party that routinely won elections in rural areas and not just in the
    South, where under Jim Crow segregation there was no Republican Party.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From shawn@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon May 19 15:52:27 2025
    On Mon, 19 May 2025 13:52:59 -0400, Rhino
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-05-19 1:03 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Crosspost to newsgroups Ubi doesn't read cut

    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2025-05-19 5:02 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Here's the citation to the story that Ubi the shithead plagarized.

    Spin Cycle: The Fix Is In, And There Was No Fix:
    They committed to the narrative...
    By Virginia Kruta
    The Daily Wire
    May 19, 2025
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/spin-cycle-the-fix-is-in-and-there-was-no-fix >>
    With just days to go before the release of "Original Sin" -- a book exploring
    former President Joe Biden's obvious cognitive decline from Jake Tapper (CNN)
    and Alex Thompson (Axios) -- everyone on the Sunday political shows was >>>> talking about Biden, who knew what, and when they knew it.

    For those who don't spend their Sunday mornings glued to the television -- >>>> and their Sunday afternoons attempting to dig through a week's worth of >>>> network and cable news media spin -- The Daily Wire has compiled a short >>>> summary of what you may have missed.

    . . .

    Rep. James Clyburn took things to a whole different level on CNN's "State of
    the Union," telling anchor Jake Tapper that he wasn't even sure Biden would
    be incapable of serving a second term in the White House.

    "Yes, I thought [he could serve another term] back then. I still think that,
    but I don't know that," he said.

    .@RepJamesClyburn on whether he still believes President Biden could >>>> have served another term: "Yes, I thought that back then. I still
    think that, but I don't know that." pic.twitter.com/hfRtH5REyl

    -- State of the Union (@CNNSOTU) May 18, 2025

    As to Biden's disastrous debate performance, Clyburn continued to play >>>> defense. "Whether or not that was just an incident or whether that was a >>>> condition that was being kept from people, we have no way of knowing which >>>> one was true," he claimed.

    .@RepJamesClyburn reflects on Biden's disastrous 2024 debate
    performance: "Whether or not that was just an incident or whether
    that was a condition that was being kept from people, we have no way >>>> of knowing which one was true." pic.twitter.com/Sso7mSltX0

    -- State of the Union (@CNNSOTU) May 18, 2025

    . . .

    Is it too late to charge Dr. Jill with elder abuse?

    I don't suppose there's anything that can be done legally about the
    media lies about Biden being sharp as a tack but that probably doesn't
    matter. We know now that they are shameless liars and their credibility
    has suffered a well-earned decline. They are surely aware of that as
    their ratings/sales fall ever further.

    I don't see much of an effort to clean up their acts either: they still
    seem determined to gaslight the public with yet more of the same
    hysteria that they greeted every word and action uttered by Trump and
    his people in his first term. They only calm down when a Democrat is in
    the White House and they can go into full-time fluffer mode.

    It's fine though. They are destroying themselves so here's hoping
    they're completely irrelevant in the near future.

    You might have noticed that America works poorly with two irrelevant
    national political parties.

    You're not going to learn anything about the book from those talking
    heads. They're the target of the book. I listened to radio interviews
    with the authors. It was quite disturbing. David Plouffe spoke on record;
    no one else did. Most recently, he managed Kamala's campaign.

    The "original sin" of the title was not letting Biden have his choice
    for running mate -- Gretchen Whitmer -- after the death of George Floyd.
    No one in his administration wanted to work with Kamala and no one
    thought she was ready to be president nor win an election.

    But Harris was "black" so that seemed like an obvious vote-getter with
    the Democrats' traditional base, even though a lot of blacks see her as
    more South Asian than one of them. Either way, lots of obvious >virtue-signalling points for including Harris on the ticket. Too bad she
    was such an unlikable candidate. In any case, America really dodged a
    bullet when she failed to excite the electorate.

    She was but then Whitmer was also female so I don't know why she
    wasn't allowed to be chosen as running mate or even who is going to
    have that power.

    The Dems have only themselves to blame for their president parlous
    state. They ended up running Biden when he was well past his prime
    because he was the only one who had a chance against Comrade Bernie and
    then saddled him with Harris who was much more an anchor than a sail.


    It's not clear to me that the fault lies with the Democrats in power
    as some of what I've read suggested that it was the inner core around
    Biden who did their utmost to keep any weaknesses of Biden hidden from everyone, not just the public. It's too bad they couldn't get Biden to
    step aside so the Dems could have had a real race for the Presidency
    to get a good candidate.




    But then, rather than having a proper convention to choose a new
    candidate from among several prospects, they essentially appointed
    Harris. I don't really understand how that happened and can only
    speculate that none of the other potential candidates thought they had a >chance of winning from a start that close to Election Day and just
    decided to give it to Harris unopposed. They raised a bunch of money and
    gave it to her, she blew it all, but failed to impress as a candidate.

    The timing is why I always assumed they went with Harris. She already
    had a campaign set up for her by taking over the Biden campaign. If
    Biden had stepped aside months earlier I think they would have had a
    proper convention to choose another candidate.

    The Democrats messed up all the way along by not building a bench of >potential candidates going back to Obama's time in office. Everything
    else follows from that.

    True, and I can't say the Republicans are doing any better. There are
    clearly no standout replacements for Trump when you have people
    strongly suggest Vance should be his replacement.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to suzeeq on Mon May 19 16:56:45 2025
    On 2025-05-19 2:22 PM, suzeeq wrote:
    On 5/19/2025 10:52 AM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2025-05-19 1:03 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Crosspost to newsgroups Ubi doesn't read cut

    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2025-05-19 5:02 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Here's the citation to the story that Ubi the shithead plagarized.

    Spin Cycle: The Fix Is In, And There Was No Fix:
    They committed to the narrative...
    By Virginia Kruta
    The Daily Wire
    May 19, 2025
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/spin-cycle-the-fix-is-in-and-there-
    was-no-fix

    With just days to go before the release of "Original Sin" -- a book
    exploring
    former President Joe Biden's obvious cognitive decline from Jake
    Tapper (CNN)
    and Alex Thompson (Axios) -- everyone on the Sunday political shows
    was
    talking about Biden, who knew what, and when they knew it.

    For those who don't spend their Sunday mornings glued to the
    television --
    and their Sunday afternoons attempting to dig through a week's
    worth of
    network and cable news media spin -- The Daily Wire has compiled a
    short
    summary of what you may have missed.

    . . .

    Rep. James Clyburn took things to a whole different level on CNN's
    "State of
    the Union," telling anchor Jake Tapper that he wasn't even sure
    Biden would
    be incapable of serving a second term in the White House.

    "Yes, I thought [he could serve another term] back then. I still
    think that,
    but I don't know that," he said.

        .@RepJamesClyburn on whether he still believes President Biden >>>>> could
        have served another term: "Yes, I thought that back then. I still >>>>>     think that, but I don't know that." pic.twitter.com/hfRtH5REyl >>>
        -- State of the Union (@CNNSOTU) May 18, 2025

    As to Biden's disastrous debate performance, Clyburn continued to play >>>>> defense. "Whether or not that was just an incident or whether that
    was a
    condition that was being kept from people, we have no way of
    knowing which
    one was true," he claimed.

        .@RepJamesClyburn reflects on Biden's disastrous 2024 debate >>>>>     performance: "Whether or not that was just an incident or whether >>>>>     that was a condition that was being kept from people, we have >>>>> no way
        of knowing which one was true." pic.twitter.com/Sso7mSltX0

        -- State of the Union (@CNNSOTU) May 18, 2025

    . . .

    Is it too late to charge Dr. Jill with elder abuse?


    For the record, Dr Jill is a PHD, not an MD.

    I'm aware of that.

    So there's nothing to
    charge her with.

    How so? You don't have to be an MD to be charged with elder abuse do
    you? My impression is that anyone can be charged with elder abuse if an
    elder is in their care.


    I don't suppose there's anything that can be done legally about the
    media lies about Biden being sharp as a tack but that probably doesn't >>>> matter. We know now that they are shameless liars and their credibility >>>> has suffered a well-earned decline. They are surely aware of that as
    their ratings/sales fall ever further.

    I don't see much of an effort to clean up their acts either: they still >>>> seem determined to gaslight the public with yet more of the same
    hysteria that they greeted every word and action uttered by Trump and
    his people in his first term. They only calm down when a Democrat is in >>>> the White House and they can go into full-time fluffer mode.

    It's fine though. They are destroying themselves so here's hoping
    they're completely irrelevant in the near future.

    You might have noticed that America works poorly with two irrelevant
    national political parties.

    You're not going to learn anything about the book from those talking
    heads. They're the target of the book. I listened to radio interviews
    with the authors. It was quite disturbing. David Plouffe spoke on
    record;
    no one else did. Most recently, he managed Kamala's campaign.

    The "original sin" of the title was not letting Biden have his choice
    for running mate -- Gretchen Whitmer -- after the death of George Floyd. >>> No one in his administration wanted to work with Kamala and no one
    thought she was ready to be president nor win an election.

    But Harris was "black" so that seemed like an obvious vote-getter with
    the Democrats' traditional base, even though a lot of blacks see her
    as more South Asian than one of them. Either way, lots of obvious
    virtue-signalling points for including Harris on the ticket. Too bad
    she was such an unlikable candidate. In any case, America really
    dodged a bullet when she failed to excite the electorate.

    The Dems have only themselves to blame for their president parlous
    state. They ended up running Biden when he was well past his prime
    because he was the only one who had a chance against Comrade Bernie
    and then saddled him with Harris who was much more an anchor than a
    sail. They must have seen how depleted Biden was because they hid him
    away as much as they could and counted on their allies in the media to
    deny his decline. Then they staged that first debate with Trump months
    earlier than usual and finally EVERYONE could see that Biden didn't
    have another term in him.

    Personally, I think that debate happened so early because the people
    pulling his strings were certain he was too far gone to run again but
    hadn't been able to convince him - and Dr. Jill - that he was done so
    they had the debate BECAUSE they knew he would shit the bed AND BE
    SEEN TO HAVE DONE SO. It was so bad that they were finally able to get
    the House and Senate to (largely) abandon him. Finally, Biden
    understood that he was done and stepped aside.

    But then, rather than having a proper convention to choose a new
    candidate from among several prospects, they essentially appointed
    Harris. I don't really understand how that happened and can only
    speculate that none of the other potential candidates thought they had
    a chance of winning from a start that close to Election Day and just
    decided to give it to Harris unopposed. They raised a bunch of money
    and gave it to her, she blew it all, but failed to impress as a
    candidate.

    The Democrats messed up all the way along by not building a bench of
    potential candidates going back to Obama's time in office. Everything
    else follows from that.




    --
    Rhino

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to suzeeq on Mon May 19 16:58:21 2025
    On 2025-05-19 2:55 PM, suzeeq wrote:

    On 5/19/2025 11:32 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On May 19, 2025 at 11:22:51 AM PDT, "suzeeq" <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 5/19/2025 10:52 AM, Rhino wrote:
      On 2025-05-19 1:03 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
      Crosspost to newsgroups Ubi doesn't read cut

      Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:
      On 2025-05-19 5:02 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:

      Here's the citation to the story that Ubi the shithead plagarized. >>>>>
      Spin Cycle: The Fix Is In, And There Was No Fix:
      They committed to the narrative...
      By Virginia Kruta
      The Daily Wire
      May 19, 2025

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/spin-cycle-the-fix-is-in-and-there-
    was-no-fix



      With just days to go before the release of "Original Sin" -- a >>>>>>> book
      exploring
      former President Joe Biden's obvious cognitive decline from Jake >>>>>>>   Tapper (CNN)
      and Alex Thompson (Axios) -- everyone on the Sunday political >>>>>>> shows was
      talking about Biden, who knew what, and when they knew it.

      For those who don't spend their Sunday mornings glued to the
      television --
      and their Sunday afternoons attempting to dig through a week's >>>>>>> worth of
      network and cable news media spin -- The Daily Wire has compiled a >>>>>>>   short
      summary of what you may have missed.

      . . .

      Rep. James Clyburn took things to a whole different level on CNN's >>>>>>>   "State of
      the Union," telling anchor Jake Tapper that he wasn't even sure >>>>>>>   Biden would
      be incapable of serving a second term in the White House.

      "Yes, I thought [he could serve another term] back then. I still >>>>>>>   think that,
      but I don't know that," he said.

          .@RepJamesClyburn on whether he still believes President Biden
      could
          have served another term: "Yes, I thought that back then. I >>>>>>> still
          think that, but I don't know that." pic.twitter.com/hfRtH5REyl

          -- State of the Union (@CNNSOTU) May 18, 2025

      As to Biden's disastrous debate performance, Clyburn continued >>>>>>> to play
      defense. "Whether or not that was just an incident or whether that >>>>>>>   was a
      condition that was being kept from people, we have no way of
    knowing
      which
      one was true," he claimed.

          .@RepJamesClyburn reflects on Biden's disastrous 2024 debate >>>>>>>       performance: "Whether or not that was just an incident or >>>>>>> whether
          that was a condition that was being kept from people, we >>>>>>> have no
      way
          of knowing which one was true." pic.twitter.com/Sso7mSltX0 >>>>>
          -- State of the Union (@CNNSOTU) May 18, 2025

      . . .

      Is it too late to charge Dr. Jill with elder abuse?


    For the record, Dr Jill is a PHD, not an MD. So there's nothing to
    charge her with.

    Even people without college degrees can be charged with elder abuse.

    Donnie Jr's post seemed to imply that she was a medical doctor who
    should have seen the symptoms. A wife, with or without a degree, likely
    would not.

    Donnie Jr. isn't in this thread. Do you mean me?

    --
    Rhino

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to shawn on Mon May 19 17:02:32 2025
    On 2025-05-19 3:52 PM, shawn wrote:
    On Mon, 19 May 2025 13:52:59 -0400, Rhino
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-05-19 1:03 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Crosspost to newsgroups Ubi doesn't read cut

    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2025-05-19 5:02 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Here's the citation to the story that Ubi the shithead plagarized.

    Spin Cycle: The Fix Is In, And There Was No Fix:
    They committed to the narrative...
    By Virginia Kruta
    The Daily Wire
    May 19, 2025
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/spin-cycle-the-fix-is-in-and-there-was-no-fix

    With just days to go before the release of "Original Sin" -- a book exploring
    former President Joe Biden's obvious cognitive decline from Jake Tapper (CNN)
    and Alex Thompson (Axios) -- everyone on the Sunday political shows was >>>>> talking about Biden, who knew what, and when they knew it.

    For those who don't spend their Sunday mornings glued to the television --
    and their Sunday afternoons attempting to dig through a week's worth of >>>>> network and cable news media spin -- The Daily Wire has compiled a short >>>>> summary of what you may have missed.

    . . .

    Rep. James Clyburn took things to a whole different level on CNN's "State of
    the Union," telling anchor Jake Tapper that he wasn't even sure Biden would
    be incapable of serving a second term in the White House.

    "Yes, I thought [he could serve another term] back then. I still think that,
    but I don't know that," he said.

    .@RepJamesClyburn on whether he still believes President Biden could >>>>> have served another term: "Yes, I thought that back then. I still
    think that, but I don't know that." pic.twitter.com/hfRtH5REyl

    -- State of the Union (@CNNSOTU) May 18, 2025

    As to Biden's disastrous debate performance, Clyburn continued to play >>>>> defense. "Whether or not that was just an incident or whether that was a >>>>> condition that was being kept from people, we have no way of knowing which
    one was true," he claimed.

    .@RepJamesClyburn reflects on Biden's disastrous 2024 debate
    performance: "Whether or not that was just an incident or whether
    that was a condition that was being kept from people, we have no way >>>>> of knowing which one was true." pic.twitter.com/Sso7mSltX0

    -- State of the Union (@CNNSOTU) May 18, 2025

    . . .

    Is it too late to charge Dr. Jill with elder abuse?

    I don't suppose there's anything that can be done legally about the
    media lies about Biden being sharp as a tack but that probably doesn't >>>> matter. We know now that they are shameless liars and their credibility >>>> has suffered a well-earned decline. They are surely aware of that as
    their ratings/sales fall ever further.

    I don't see much of an effort to clean up their acts either: they still >>>> seem determined to gaslight the public with yet more of the same
    hysteria that they greeted every word and action uttered by Trump and
    his people in his first term. They only calm down when a Democrat is in >>>> the White House and they can go into full-time fluffer mode.

    It's fine though. They are destroying themselves so here's hoping
    they're completely irrelevant in the near future.

    You might have noticed that America works poorly with two irrelevant
    national political parties.

    You're not going to learn anything about the book from those talking
    heads. They're the target of the book. I listened to radio interviews
    with the authors. It was quite disturbing. David Plouffe spoke on record; >>> no one else did. Most recently, he managed Kamala's campaign.

    The "original sin" of the title was not letting Biden have his choice
    for running mate -- Gretchen Whitmer -- after the death of George Floyd. >>> No one in his administration wanted to work with Kamala and no one
    thought she was ready to be president nor win an election.

    But Harris was "black" so that seemed like an obvious vote-getter with
    the Democrats' traditional base, even though a lot of blacks see her as
    more South Asian than one of them. Either way, lots of obvious
    virtue-signalling points for including Harris on the ticket. Too bad she
    was such an unlikable candidate. In any case, America really dodged a
    bullet when she failed to excite the electorate.

    She was but then Whitmer was also female so I don't know why she
    wasn't allowed to be chosen as running mate or even who is going to
    have that power.

    The Dems have only themselves to blame for their president parlous
    state. They ended up running Biden when he was well past his prime
    because he was the only one who had a chance against Comrade Bernie and
    then saddled him with Harris who was much more an anchor than a sail.


    It's not clear to me that the fault lies with the Democrats in power
    as some of what I've read suggested that it was the inner core around
    Biden who did their utmost to keep any weaknesses of Biden hidden from everyone, not just the public. It's too bad they couldn't get Biden to
    step aside so the Dems could have had a real race for the Presidency
    to get a good candidate.




    But then, rather than having a proper convention to choose a new
    candidate from among several prospects, they essentially appointed
    Harris. I don't really understand how that happened and can only
    speculate that none of the other potential candidates thought they had a
    chance of winning from a start that close to Election Day and just
    decided to give it to Harris unopposed. They raised a bunch of money and
    gave it to her, she blew it all, but failed to impress as a candidate.

    The timing is why I always assumed they went with Harris. She already
    had a campaign set up for her by taking over the Biden campaign. If
    Biden had stepped aside months earlier I think they would have had a
    proper convention to choose another candidate.

    The Democrats messed up all the way along by not building a bench of
    potential candidates going back to Obama's time in office. Everything
    else follows from that.

    True, and I can't say the Republicans are doing any better. There are
    clearly no standout replacements for Trump when you have people
    strongly suggest Vance should be his replacement.

    I've heard definite enthusiasm for both Vance and Rubio as Trump's
    successors. I don't know if any of the rest of his cabinet or major appointments is similarly favoured.

    Personally, I've always preferred Ted Cruz over Trump and some of the
    other senators like Hawley and Kennedy seem very good in hearings; I
    don't know if they have the chops to be President though.


    --
    Rhino

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 19 21:04:37 2025
    On May 19, 2025 at 12:52:27 PM PDT, "shawn" <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Mon, 19 May 2025 13:52:59 -0400, Rhino
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-05-19 1:03 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    But then, rather than having a proper convention to choose a new
    candidate from among several prospects, they essentially appointed
    Harris. I don't really understand how that happened and can only
    speculate that none of the other potential candidates thought they had a
    chance of winning from a start that close to Election Day and just
    decided to give it to Harris unopposed. They raised a bunch of money and
    gave it to her, she blew it all, but failed to impress as a candidate.

    She (and the Democrats) seem to believe that being the candidate celebrities like is what wins you elections. No one I know gives a shit who George Clooney or Oprah or Taylor Swift is voting for when they step into the voting booth to fill out their ballots. If they think of celebrities at all, it's usually as a red flag about who *not* to vote for.

    The timing is why I always assumed they went with Harris. She already
    had a campaign set up for her by taking over the Biden campaign.

    And she was the only one who could legally take the millions in the Biden war chest. Anyone else would have had to start out from scratch fundraising.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 19 21:07:27 2025
    On May 19, 2025 at 2:02:32 PM PDT, "Rhino" <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-05-19 3:52 PM, shawn wrote:
    On Mon, 19 May 2025 13:52:59 -0400, Rhino
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    The Democrats messed up all the way along by not building a bench of
    potential candidates going back to Obama's time in office. Everything
    else follows from that.

    True, and I can't say the Republicans are doing any better. There are
    clearly no standout replacements for Trump when you have people
    strongly suggest Vance should be his replacement.

    I've heard definite enthusiasm for both Vance and Rubio as Trump's successors. I don't know if any of the rest of his cabinet or major appointments is similarly favoured.

    Personally, I've always preferred Ted Cruz over Trump

    Ted Cruz is great but he's been unfortunately saddled with resembling a grown-up Eddie Munster, which in this TV world where appearance matters as
    much (if not more) than substance will leave him forever aspiring to higher office but never achieving it.

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 19 17:11:39 2025
    On 2025-05-19 2:28 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On May 19, 2025 at 10:03:29 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Crosspost to newsgroups Ubi doesn't read cut

    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:

    Is it too late to charge Dr. Jill with elder abuse?

    I don't suppose there's anything that can be done legally about the
    media lies about Biden being sharp as a tack but that probably doesn't
    matter. We know now that they are shameless liars and their credibility
    has suffered a well-earned decline. They are surely aware of that as
    their ratings/sales fall ever further.

    I don't see much of an effort to clean up their acts either: they still
    seem determined to gaslight the public with yet more of the same
    hysteria that they greeted every word and action uttered by Trump and
    his people in his first term. They only calm down when a Democrat is in
    the White House and they can go into full-time fluffer mode.

    It's fine though. They are destroying themselves so here's hoping
    they're completely irrelevant in the near future.

    You might have noticed that America works poorly with two irrelevant
    national political parties.

    You're not going to learn anything about the book from those talking
    heads. They're the target of the book. I listened to radio interviews
    with the authors. It was quite disturbing. David Plouffe spoke on record;
    no one else did. Most recently, he managed Kamala's campaign.

    The "original sin" of the title was not letting Biden have his choice
    for running mate -- Gretchen Whitmer -- after the death of George Floyd.
    No one in his administration wanted to work with Kamala and no one
    thought she was ready to be president nor win an election.

    And yet it looks like the powers-that-be are maneuvering her to be the next governor of California. If that happens, Illinois can just give up. It'll never catch California in the race to the bottom.


    There was an article about that on the CNN website today and it gives
    the impression that Harris isn't ready to commit to the run for governor because she still has wants to run for President in 2028. I think she's delusional if she imagines she'll get another shot at the White House
    but I hope she goes for it so that she can't further destroy California.
    That way, neither the country nor California will have to endure a term
    with her in charge. I think whoever is telling her she's still got a
    shot at being a Presidential candidate is one of the other candidates
    for California governor (or someone working for them).

    Harris burned through well over a billion dollars in just a few months,
    and had the full support of the legacy media but she still couldn't seal
    the deal so I don't see her being a serious contender for President
    again. Affirmative Action got her to the #2 spot but I don't see her
    going any higher.


    --
    Rhino

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 19 17:12:49 2025
    On 2025-05-19 5:07 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On May 19, 2025 at 2:02:32 PM PDT, "Rhino" <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-05-19 3:52 PM, shawn wrote:
    On Mon, 19 May 2025 13:52:59 -0400, Rhino
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    The Democrats messed up all the way along by not building a bench of >>>> potential candidates going back to Obama's time in office. Everything >>>> else follows from that.

    True, and I can't say the Republicans are doing any better. There are
    clearly no standout replacements for Trump when you have people
    strongly suggest Vance should be his replacement.

    I've heard definite enthusiasm for both Vance and Rubio as Trump's
    successors. I don't know if any of the rest of his cabinet or major
    appointments is similarly favoured.

    Personally, I've always preferred Ted Cruz over Trump

    Ted Cruz is great but he's been unfortunately saddled with resembling a grown-up Eddie Munster, which in this TV world where appearance matters as much (if not more) than substance will leave him forever aspiring to higher office but never achieving it.


    There was talk at one point of putting him on the Supreme Court. I like
    that idea. He could do a lot of good there.

    --
    Rhino

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 19 17:15:58 2025
    On 2025-05-19 5:04 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On May 19, 2025 at 12:52:27 PM PDT, "shawn" <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Mon, 19 May 2025 13:52:59 -0400, Rhino
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-05-19 1:03 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    But then, rather than having a proper convention to choose a new
    candidate from among several prospects, they essentially appointed
    Harris. I don't really understand how that happened and can only
    speculate that none of the other potential candidates thought they had a >>> chance of winning from a start that close to Election Day and just
    decided to give it to Harris unopposed. They raised a bunch of money and >>> gave it to her, she blew it all, but failed to impress as a candidate.

    She (and the Democrats) seem to believe that being the candidate celebrities like is what wins you elections. No one I know gives a shit who George Clooney
    or Oprah or Taylor Swift is voting for when they step into the voting booth to
    fill out their ballots. If they think of celebrities at all, it's usually as a
    red flag about who *not* to vote for.

    The timing is why I always assumed they went with Harris. She already
    had a campaign set up for her by taking over the Biden campaign.Good

    And she was the only one who could legally take the millions in the Biden war chest. Anyone else would have had to start out from scratch fundraising.


    Good point; I'd forgotten that. So what would have happened to the money
    in the Biden/Harris war chest if there'd been an open convention and she
    lost? Would it be returned to the donors?

    --
    Rhino

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 19 22:18:22 2025
    On May 19, 2025 at 2:12:49 PM PDT, "Rhino" <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-05-19 5:07 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On May 19, 2025 at 2:02:32 PM PDT, "Rhino" <[email protected]> >> wrote:

    On 2025-05-19 3:52 PM, shawn wrote:
    On Mon, 19 May 2025 13:52:59 -0400, Rhino
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    The Democrats messed up all the way along by not building a bench of >>>>> potential candidates going back to Obama's time in office. Everything >>>>> else follows from that.

    True, and I can't say the Republicans are doing any better. There are >>>> clearly no standout replacements for Trump when you have people
    strongly suggest Vance should be his replacement.

    I've heard definite enthusiasm for both Vance and Rubio as Trump's
    successors. I don't know if any of the rest of his cabinet or major
    appointments is similarly favoured.

    Personally, I've always preferred Ted Cruz over Trump

    Ted Cruz is great but he's been unfortunately saddled with resembling a
    grown-up Eddie Munster, which in this TV world where appearance matters as >> much (if not more) than substance will leave him forever aspiring to higher >> office but never achieving it.

    There was talk at one point of putting him on the Supreme Court. I like
    that idea. He could do a lot of good there.

    Yep, that would be a good fit.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon May 19 22:28:33 2025
    BTR1701 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On May 19, 2025 at 2:12:49 PM PDT, "Rhino" <[email protected]> >wrote:

    On 2025-05-19 5:07 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On May 19, 2025 at 2:02:32 PM PDT, "Rhino" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 2025-05-19 3:52 PM, shawn wrote:
    On Mon, 19 May 2025 13:52:59 -0400, Rhino
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    The Democrats messed up all the way along by not building a bench of >>>>>> potential candidates going back to Obama's time in office. Everything >>>>>> else follows from that.

    True, and I can't say the Republicans are doing any better. There are >>>>> clearly no standout replacements for Trump when you have people
    strongly suggest Vance should be his replacement.

    I've heard definite enthusiasm for both Vance and Rubio as Trump's
    successors. I don't know if any of the rest of his cabinet or major
    appointments is similarly favoured.

    Personally, I've always preferred Ted Cruz over Trump

    Ted Cruz is great but he's been unfortunately saddled with resembling a >>> grown-up Eddie Munster, which in this TV world where appearance matters as >>> much (if not more) than substance will leave him forever aspiring to higher
    office but never achieving it.

    There was talk at one point of putting him on the Supreme Court. I like
    that idea. He could do a lot of good there.

    Yep, that would be a good fit.

    Would he be capable of turning off the political grandstanding? Yeah
    it's great fun to question a witness at a Senate hearing, twisting the
    knife, but he can't talk to members of the Supreme Court bar like that.
    Ted Olson was an absolute genius; a great loss when he died last year.
    Paul Clement, still actively practicing appellate law, was great too.

    He can't state the law like his over-the-top campaigning.

    It's beem too long since we had a politician on the Court rather than
    just an elevated appellate court judge (Kagan being the exception).

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 19 18:43:43 2025
    On 5/19/2025 5:04 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On May 19, 2025 at 12:52:27 PM PDT, "shawn" <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Mon, 19 May 2025 13:52:59 -0400, Rhino
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-05-19 1:03 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    But then, rather than having a proper convention to choose a new
    candidate from among several prospects, they essentially appointed
    Harris. I don't really understand how that happened and can only
    speculate that none of the other potential candidates thought they had a >>> chance of winning from a start that close to Election Day and just
    decided to give it to Harris unopposed. They raised a bunch of money and >>> gave it to her, she blew it all, but failed to impress as a candidate.

    She (and the Democrats) seem to believe that being the candidate celebrities like is what wins you elections. No one I know gives a shit who George Clooney
    or Oprah or Taylor Swift is voting for when they step into the voting booth to
    fill out their ballots. If they think of celebrities at all, it's usually as a
    red flag about who *not* to vote for.

    The timing is why I always assumed they went with Harris. She already
    had a campaign set up for her by taking over the Biden campaign.

    And she was the only one who could legally take the millions in the Biden war chest. Anyone else would have had to start out from scratch fundraising.

    She was the Democrats' vice-president, taking over in an emergency. Any
    other choice would've left them looking even more befuddled.

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  • From Ian J. Ball@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 19 16:44:23 2025
    On 5/19/25 11:28 AM, BTR1701 wrote:

    On May 19, 2025 at 10:03:29 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Crosspost to newsgroups Ubi doesn't read cut

    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:

    Is it too late to charge Dr. Jill with elder abuse?

    I don't suppose there's anything that can be done legally about the
    media lies about Biden being sharp as a tack but that probably doesn't
    matter. We know now that they are shameless liars and their credibility
    has suffered a well-earned decline. They are surely aware of that as
    their ratings/sales fall ever further.

    I don't see much of an effort to clean up their acts either: they still
    seem determined to gaslight the public with yet more of the same
    hysteria that they greeted every word and action uttered by Trump and
    his people in his first term. They only calm down when a Democrat is in
    the White House and they can go into full-time fluffer mode.

    It's fine though. They are destroying themselves so here's hoping
    they're completely irrelevant in the near future.

    You might have noticed that America works poorly with two irrelevant
    national political parties.

    You're not going to learn anything about the book from those talking
    heads. They're the target of the book. I listened to radio interviews
    with the authors. It was quite disturbing. David Plouffe spoke on record;
    no one else did. Most recently, he managed Kamala's campaign.

    The "original sin" of the title was not letting Biden have his choice
    for running mate -- Gretchen Whitmer -- after the death of George Floyd.
    No one in his administration wanted to work with Kamala and no one
    thought she was ready to be president nor win an election.

    And yet it looks like the powers-that-be are maneuvering her to be the next governor of California. If that happens, Illinois can just give up. It'll never catch California in the race to the bottom.

    You're right - that will beat Adam in one move.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From suzeeq@21:1/5 to Rhino on Mon May 19 17:14:09 2025
    On 5/19/2025 1:58 PM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2025-05-19 2:55 PM, suzeeq wrote:

    On 5/19/2025 11:32 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On May 19, 2025 at 11:22:51 AM PDT, "suzeeq" <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 5/19/2025 10:52 AM, Rhino wrote:
      On 2025-05-19 1:03 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
      Crosspost to newsgroups Ubi doesn't read cut

      Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:
      On 2025-05-19 5:02 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:

      Here's the citation to the story that Ubi the shithead plagarized. >>>>>>
      Spin Cycle: The Fix Is In, And There Was No Fix:
      They committed to the narrative...
      By Virginia Kruta
      The Daily Wire
      May 19, 2025

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/spin-cycle-the-fix-is-in-and-there- >>>>>> was-no-fix



      With just days to go before the release of "Original Sin" -- a >>>>>>>> book
      exploring
      former President Joe Biden's obvious cognitive decline from Jake >>>>>>>>   Tapper (CNN)
      and Alex Thompson (Axios) -- everyone on the Sunday political >>>>>>>> shows was
      talking about Biden, who knew what, and when they knew it.

      For those who don't spend their Sunday mornings glued to the >>>>>>>>   television --
      and their Sunday afternoons attempting to dig through a week's >>>>>>>> worth of
      network and cable news media spin -- The Daily Wire has
    compiled a
      short
      summary of what you may have missed.

      . . .

      Rep. James Clyburn took things to a whole different level on >>>>>>>> CNN's
      "State of
      the Union," telling anchor Jake Tapper that he wasn't even sure >>>>>>>>   Biden would
      be incapable of serving a second term in the White House.

      "Yes, I thought [he could serve another term] back then. I still >>>>>>>>   think that,
      but I don't know that," he said.

          .@RepJamesClyburn on whether he still believes President >>>>>>>> Biden
      could
          have served another term: "Yes, I thought that back then. >>>>>>>> I still
          think that, but I don't know that."
    pic.twitter.com/hfRtH5REyl

          -- State of the Union (@CNNSOTU) May 18, 2025

      As to Biden's disastrous debate performance, Clyburn continued >>>>>>>> to play
      defense. "Whether or not that was just an incident or whether >>>>>>>> that
      was a
      condition that was being kept from people, we have no way of >>>>>>>> knowing
      which
      one was true," he claimed.

          .@RepJamesClyburn reflects on Biden's disastrous 2024 debate
          performance: "Whether or not that was just an incident or >>>>>>>> whether
          that was a condition that was being kept from people, we >>>>>>>> have no
      way
          of knowing which one was true." pic.twitter.com/Sso7mSltX0 >>>>>>
          -- State of the Union (@CNNSOTU) May 18, 2025

      . . .

      Is it too late to charge Dr. Jill with elder abuse?


    For the record, Dr Jill is a PHD, not an MD. So there's nothing to
    charge her with.

    Even people without college degrees can be charged with elder abuse.

    Donnie Jr's post seemed to imply that she was a medical doctor who
    should have seen the symptoms. A wife, with or without a degree,
    likely would not.

    Donnie Jr. isn't in this thread. Do you mean me?

    No, I mean DJT Jr. He's the one who first blamed Dr Jill with not seeing
    the symptoms of prostate cancer.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Ian J. Ball on Tue May 20 01:44:43 2025
    Ian J. Ball <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On 5/19/25 11:28 AM, BTR1701 wrote:

    On May 19, 2025 at 10:03:29 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Crosspost to newsgroups Ubi doesn't read cut

    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:

    Is it too late to charge Dr. Jill with elder abuse?

    I don't suppose there's anything that can be done legally about the
    media lies about Biden being sharp as a tack but that probably doesn't >>>> matter. We know now that they are shameless liars and their credibility >>>> has suffered a well-earned decline. They are surely aware of that as
    their ratings/sales fall ever further.

    I don't see much of an effort to clean up their acts either: they still >>>> seem determined to gaslight the public with yet more of the same
    hysteria that they greeted every word and action uttered by Trump and
    his people in his first term. They only calm down when a Democrat is in >>>> the White House and they can go into full-time fluffer mode.

    It's fine though. They are destroying themselves so here's hoping
    they're completely irrelevant in the near future.

    You might have noticed that America works poorly with two irrelevant
    national political parties.

    You're not going to learn anything about the book from those talking
    heads. They're the target of the book. I listened to radio interviews
    with the authors. It was quite disturbing. David Plouffe spoke on record; >>> no one else did. Most recently, he managed Kamala's campaign.

    The "original sin" of the title was not letting Biden have his choice
    for running mate -- Gretchen Whitmer -- after the death of George Floyd. >>> No one in his administration wanted to work with Kamala and no one
    thought she was ready to be president nor win an election.

    And yet it looks like the powers-that-be are maneuvering her to be the next >> governor of California. If that happens, Illinois can just give up. It'll
    never catch California in the race to the bottom.

    You're right - that will beat Adam in one move.

    Yeah, 'cuz it's possible that my state could run out of politicians who
    will act against the interest of contituents.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue May 20 04:30:44 2025
    In article <100fo91$1nl2g$[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote with incorrect formatting:

    Crosspost to newsgroups Ubi doesn't read


    TROLL-O-METER

    5* 6* *7
    4* *8
    3* *9
    2* *10
    1* | *stuporous
    0* -*- *catatonic
    * |\ *comatose
    * \ *clinical death
    * \ *biological death
    * _\/ *demonic apparition
    * * *damned for all eternity


    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2025-05-19 5:02 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Here's the citation to the story that Ubi the shithead plagarized.



    TROLL-O-METER

    5* 6* *7
    4* *8
    3* *9
    2* *10
    1* | *stuporous
    0* -*- *catatonic
    * |\ *comatose
    * \ *clinical death
    * \ *biological death
    * _\/ *demonic apparition
    * * *damned for all eternity

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue May 20 04:30:46 2025
    In article <100fstr$1u5n$[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
    On 5/19/2025 10:52 AM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2025-05-19 1:03 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:

    Is it too late to charge Dr. Jill with elder abuse?


    For the record, Dr Jill is a PHD, not an MD. So there's nothing to
    charge her with.

    Are you being obtuse or were you kicked in the head by a mule again?


    --
    Not a joke! Don't jump!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Nyssa@21:1/5 to suzeeq on Tue May 20 09:07:16 2025
    suzeeq wrote:

    On 5/19/2025 10:52 AM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2025-05-19 1:03 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Crosspost to newsgroups Ubi doesn't read cut

    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2025-05-19 5:02 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Here's the citation to the story that Ubi the shithead
    plagarized.

    Spin Cycle: The Fix Is In, And There Was No Fix:
    They committed to the narrative...
    By Virginia Kruta
    The Daily Wire
    May 19, 2025
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/spin-cycle-the-fix-is-in-and-there-was-no-fix


    With just days to go before the release of "Original
    Sin" -- a book exploring
    former President Joe Biden's obvious cognitive decline
    from Jake Tapper (CNN)
    and Alex Thompson (Axios) -- everyone on the Sunday
    political shows was talking about Biden, who knew
    what, and when they knew it.

    For those who don't spend their Sunday mornings glued
    to the television --
    and their Sunday afternoons attempting to dig through
    a week's worth of network and cable news media spin --
    The Daily Wire has compiled a short
    summary of what you may have missed.

    . . .

    Rep. James Clyburn took things to a whole different
    level on CNN's "State of
    the Union," telling anchor Jake Tapper that he wasn't
    even sure Biden would
    be incapable of serving a second term in the White
    House.

    "Yes, I thought [he could serve another term] back
    then. I still think that,
    but I don't know that," he said.

    .@RepJamesClyburn on whether he still believes
    President Biden could
    have served another term: "Yes, I thought that back
    then. I still think that, but I don't know that."
    pic.twitter.com/hfRtH5REyl

    -- State of the Union (@CNNSOTU) May 18, 2025

    As to Biden's disastrous debate performance, Clyburn
    continued to play defense. "Whether or not that was
    just an incident or whether that was a
    condition that was being kept from people, we have no
    way of knowing which
    one was true," he claimed.

    .@RepJamesClyburn reflects on Biden's disastrous 2024
    debate performance: "Whether or not that was just an
    incident or whether that was a condition that was
    being kept from people, we have no way
    of knowing which one was true."
    pic.twitter.com/Sso7mSltX0

    -- State of the Union (@CNNSOTU) May 18, 2025

    . . .

    Is it too late to charge Dr. Jill with elder abuse?


    For the record, Dr Jill is a PHD, not an MD. So there's
    nothing to charge her with.

    To correct the record, "Dr." Jill is an Ed.D., not a Ph.D.
    The same semi-doctorate your local school principal probably
    has to impress the parents with.

    The requirements for earning an Ed.D. is on the low side of
    the curve, and can vary widely between universities.

    IIRC her disertation was available online from the U. of
    Delaware at one time. It was full of typos and grammatical
    errors.

    <the rest snipped>

    Nyssa, who has known a few Ed.D.s and most weren't too bright

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed May 21 04:30:46 2025
    XPost: alt.news-media

    In article <100fur2$1uvk$[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
    On 5/19/2025 11:32 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On May 19, 2025 at 11:22:51 AM PDT, "suzeeq" <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 5/19/2025 10:52 AM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2025-05-19 1:03 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2025-05-19 5:02 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:

    With just days to go before the release of "Original Sin" -- a book exploring
    former President Joe Biden's obvious cognitive decline from Jake Tapper (CNN)
    and Alex Thompson (Axios) -- everyone on the Sunday political shows was >>>>>>> talking about Biden, who knew what, and when they knew it.

    For those who don't spend their Sunday mornings glued to the television --
    and their Sunday afternoons attempting to dig through a week's worth of >>>>>>> network and cable news media spin -- The Daily Wire has compiled a short
    summary of what you may have missed.

    If one were to simply watch those interviews cold, not having lived through
    four years of a Biden presidency or seen dozens of speeches and interviews
    even from midway through his single term, one might be inclined to believe
    the pundits and elected Democrats when they insisted that Biden was >>>>>>> absolutely fine at least until his disaster of a televised debate with >>>>>>> President Donald Trump -- and, according to at least one, he might even still
    be fine.

    But Democrats and pundits said those things to an audience made up of >>>>>>> Americans who did watch Biden as he repeatedly got lost on stage, tripped up
    the stairs of Air Force One, alternately shouted and whispered at awkward
    times, and lost his train of thought on a regular basis. Still, they >>>>>>> committed to the narrative -- Biden was definitely at his best until maybe
    the debate, and there was no reason for anyone to suggest otherwise or >>>>>>> believe that anyone was covering up Biden's condition.

    On ABC's "This Week," Rep. Ro Khanna insisted that there was no cover-up, but
    also said that the people who had been closest to President Biden during the
    last year or so of his presidency owed the American people "an explanation --
    but he did not clarify why they needed to explain if they were not covering
    anything up.

    "It's painfully obvious President Biden should not have run," Khanna said.

    "It's painfully obvious President Biden should not have run." >>>>>>>
    Democratic Rep. Ro Khanna said there wasn't a cover-up of former >>>>>>> Pres. Biden mental fitness ahead of the 2024 election, but added >>>>>>> those close to Biden and his advisers "owe an explanation." >>>>>>> https://t.co/MTbOVJxR88 pic.twitter.com/9UJQqpL4gF

    -- This Week (@ThisWeekABC) May 18, 2025

    During a panel discussion later on in the broadcast, former Democratic >>>>>>> National Committee Chairwoman Donna Brazile claimed that since she had lost a
    step or two with age, it was totally fine for the same thing to have happened
    to Biden.

    "I'm going to stick by Joe Biden. And look, we all -- I don't have the pep in
    my step that I used to have," she said.

    On questions of former Pres. Biden's mental fitness ahead of the 2024
    election, former DNC chair @DonnaBrazile says, "I'm going to stick
    by Joe Biden. And look, we all -- I don't have the pep in my step
    that I used to have."https://t.co/KJmZwLyqkW
    pic.twitter.com/yPGHteC3gZ

    -- This Week (@ThisWeekABC) May 18, 2025

    Former Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus pushed back,
    noting that conservatives had been repeatedly mocked and gaslighted -- not to
    mention shut down by legacy media hosts -- when they stated the obvious about
    the president's declining faculties.

    "People were put to shame -- me and others out there -- that talked about Joe
    Biden's mental acuity ... The fact is they were managing his decline in a
    nursing home in the White House," he said.

    Former RNC chair @Reince Priebus: "People were put to shame -- me and
    others out there -- that talked about Joe Biden's mental acuity ...
    The fact is they were managing his decline in a nursing home in the
    White House." https://t.co/mEq24OQYpx pic.twitter.com/glQtYP9iwY >>>>>>>
    -- This Week (@ThisWeekABC) May 18, 2025

    On CBS News' "Face the Nation," Sen. Chris Van Hollen (D-MD) took time out
    from defending criminal illegal alien gang members to address the recently
    released audio from Biden's interview with former Special Counsel Robert Hur
    -- which he said shed light on a problem that no one had been aware of at the
    time.

    "Obviously, if we could redo this tape and play it over again, we would do
    things differently," Van Hollen said. "I think we can acknowledge that this
    was a -- people overlooked a serious problem or were just not aware." >>>>>>>
    "Hindsight is 20/20," Sen. Chris Van Hollen (D-MD) says of the audio
    tapes that have been released of then-President Biden's interview
    with special counsel Robert Hur, highlighting Biden's memory lapses
    at the time.

    "Obviously, if we could redo this tape and play it over again,...
    pic.twitter.com/iITJ2PC9aH

    -- Face The Nation (@FaceTheNation) May 18, 2025

    Sen. Chris Murphy (D-CT) took a similar approach on NBC's "Meet the Press,"
    saying that Democrats might have encouraged Biden to exit the 2024 >>>>>>> presidential race sooner if only they had known. Murphy also said that >>>>>>> Democrats had been wrong to brush off voters' concerns about Biden's acuity
    during the 2024 election cycle.

    In an exclusive interview with Meet the Press, Sen. Chris Murphy >>>>>>> (D-Conn.) says that former President Biden should have exited the
    2024 race earlier as newly released audio tapes renew concerns over
    Biden's health and fitness while in office. https://t.co/KU1cqLKcHR
    pic.twitter.com/mTJHsYG5rI

    -- Meet the Press (@MeetThePress) May 18, 2025

    Rep. James Clyburn took things to a whole different level on CNN's "State of
    the Union," telling anchor Jake Tapper that he wasn't even sure Biden would
    be incapable of serving a second term in the White House.

    "Yes, I thought [he could serve another term] back then. I still think that,
    but I don't know that," he said.

    .@RepJamesClyburn on whether he still believes President Biden could
    have served another term: "Yes, I thought that back then. I still
    think that, but I don't know that." pic.twitter.com/hfRtH5REyl >>>>>>>
    -- State of the Union (@CNNSOTU) May 18, 2025

    As to Biden's disastrous debate performance, Clyburn continued to play >>>>>>> defense. "Whether or not that was just an incident or whether that was a
    condition that was being kept from people, we have no way of knowing which
    one was true," he claimed.

    .@RepJamesClyburn reflects on Biden's disastrous 2024 debate >>>>>>> performance: "Whether or not that was just an incident or whether
    that was a condition that was being kept from people, we have no way
    of knowing which one was true." pic.twitter.com/Sso7mSltX0 >>>>>>>
    -- State of the Union (@CNNSOTU) May 18, 2025

    Van Jones and David Axelrod were less magnanimous to Biden, his White House,
    and the party that enabled him.

    "There are people who knew and said nothing, and that is a crime against this
    Republic," Jones said.

    "I blame the people around him," Axelrod added. "Real loyalty demanded that
    they say, 'Mr. President, it's just not there and it's not in your interest'
    [to run again]."

    Longtime Democratic strategists react to new reporting that top >>>>>>> Biden aides hid signs of decline from the public.@VanJones68: "There
    are people who knew and said nothing, and that is a crime against
    this Republic."@davidaxelrod: "I blame the people around him... real
    loyalty... pic.twitter.com/Obz2wpk3Jm

    -- State of the Union (@CNNSOTU) May 18, 2025


    Is it too late to charge Dr. Jill with elder abuse?


    For the record, Dr Jill is a PHD, not an MD. So there's nothing to
    charge her with.

    Even people without college degrees can be charged with elder abuse.

    Donnie Jr's post seemed to imply that she was a medical doctor who
    should have seen the symptoms. A wife, with or without a degree, likely
    would not.

    You inferred incorrectly, Suzique

    --
    Not a joke! Don't jump!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Fri May 23 04:44:53 2025
    Adam H. Kerman <[email protected]> wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On 5/19/25 11:28 AM, BTR1701 wrote:

    On May 19, 2025 at 10:03:29 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Crosspost to newsgroups Ubi doesn't read cut

    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:

    Is it too late to charge Dr. Jill with elder abuse?

    I don't suppose there's anything that can be done legally about the
    media lies about Biden being sharp as a tack but that probably doesn't >>>>> matter. We know now that they are shameless liars and their credibility >>>>> has suffered a well-earned decline. They are surely aware of that as >>>>> their ratings/sales fall ever further.

    I don't see much of an effort to clean up their acts either: they still >>>>> seem determined to gaslight the public with yet more of the same
    hysteria that they greeted every word and action uttered by Trump and >>>>> his people in his first term. They only calm down when a Democrat is in >>>>> the White House and they can go into full-time fluffer mode.

    It's fine though. They are destroying themselves so here's hoping
    they're completely irrelevant in the near future.

    You might have noticed that America works poorly with two irrelevant
    national political parties.

    You're not going to learn anything about the book from those talking
    heads. They're the target of the book. I listened to radio interviews
    with the authors. It was quite disturbing. David Plouffe spoke on record; >>>> no one else did. Most recently, he managed Kamala's campaign.

    The "original sin" of the title was not letting Biden have his choice
    for running mate -- Gretchen Whitmer -- after the death of George Floyd. >>>> No one in his administration wanted to work with Kamala and no one
    thought she was ready to be president nor win an election.

    And yet it looks like the powers-that-be are maneuvering her to be the next >>> governor of California. If that happens, Illinois can just give up. It'll >>> never catch California in the race to the bottom.

    You're right - that will beat Adam in one move.

    Yeah, 'cuz it's possible that my state could run out of politicians who
    will act against the interest of contituents.

    Kamala! Kamala! Kamala!

    The political tremors will set off actual tremors in the San Andrea
    Fault! Lex Luthor's evil real estate development scheme is coming to
    fruition!

    https://apnews.com/article/kamala-harris-2028-democrats-california-president-governor-6d3b5bef946b9c51c8096328865d3a84

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Fri May 23 16:16:27 2025
    On May 22, 2025 at 9:44:53 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Adam H. Kerman <[email protected]> wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On 5/19/25 11:28 AM, BTR1701 wrote:

    On May 19, 2025 at 10:03:29 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <[email protected]> >>>> wrote:

    Crosspost to newsgroups Ubi doesn't read cut

    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:

    Is it too late to charge Dr. Jill with elder abuse?

    I don't suppose there's anything that can be done legally about the >>>>>> media lies about Biden being sharp as a tack but that probably doesn't >>>>>> matter. We know now that they are shameless liars and their credibility >>>>>> has suffered a well-earned decline. They are surely aware of that as >>>>>> their ratings/sales fall ever further.

    I don't see much of an effort to clean up their acts either: they still >>>>>> seem determined to gaslight the public with yet more of the same
    hysteria that they greeted every word and action uttered by Trump and >>>>>> his people in his first term. They only calm down when a Democrat is in >>>>>> the White House and they can go into full-time fluffer mode.

    It's fine though. They are destroying themselves so here's hoping >>>>>> they're completely irrelevant in the near future.

    You might have noticed that America works poorly with two irrelevant >>>>> national political parties.

    You're not going to learn anything about the book from those talking >>>>> heads. They're the target of the book. I listened to radio interviews >>>>> with the authors. It was quite disturbing. David Plouffe spoke on record;
    no one else did. Most recently, he managed Kamala's campaign.

    The "original sin" of the title was not letting Biden have his choice >>>>> for running mate -- Gretchen Whitmer -- after the death of George Floyd. >>>>> No one in his administration wanted to work with Kamala and no one
    thought she was ready to be president nor win an election.

    And yet it looks like the powers-that-be are maneuvering her to be the next
    governor of California. If that happens, Illinois can just give up. It'll >>>> never catch California in the race to the bottom.

    You're right - that will beat Adam in one move.

    Yeah, 'cuz it's possible that my state could run out of politicians who
    will act against the interest of contituents.

    Kamala! Kamala! Kamala!

    The political tremors will set off actual tremors in the San Andrea
    Fault! Lex Luthor's evil real estate development scheme is coming to fruition!


    https://apnews.com/article/kamala-harris-2028-democrats-california-president-governor-6d3b5bef946b9c51c8096328865d3a84

    It's telling that all their "pros" and "cons" are in relation to her. What's good for her, what's not good for her. Not what's good for the country or the state of California.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri May 23 16:49:33 2025
    BTR1701 <[email protected]> wrote:
    May 22, 2025 at 9:44:53 PM PDT, Adam H. Kerman <[email protected]> wrote:
    Adam H. Kerman <[email protected]> wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <[email protected]d> wrote:
    5/19/25 11:28 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    May 19, 2025 at 10:03:29 AM PDT, Adam H. Kerman <[email protected]>:

    . . .

    The "original sin" of the title was not letting Biden have his choice >>>>>>for running mate -- Gretchen Whitmer -- after the death of George Floyd. >>>>>>No one in his administration wanted to work with Kamala and no one >>>>>>thought she was ready to be president nor win an election.

    And yet it looks like the powers-that-be are maneuvering her to be >>>>>the next governor of California. If that happens, Illinois can just >>>>>give up. It'll never catch California in the race to the bottom.

    You're right - that will beat Adam in one move.

    Yeah, 'cuz it's possible that my state could run out of politicians who >>>will act against the interest of contituents.

    Kamala! Kamala! Kamala!

    The political tremors will set off actual tremors in the San Andrea
    Fault! Lex Luthor's evil real estate development scheme is coming to >>fruition!

    https://apnews.com/article/kamala-harris-2028-democrats-california-president-governor-6d3b5bef946b9c51c8096328865d3a84

    It's telling that all their "pros" and "cons" are in relation to
    her. What's good for her, what's not good for her. Not what's good for
    the country or the state of California.

    Keeping her in California and never letting her leave is good for the
    country. The national media is providing a public service here.

    It's retaliation for inflicting someone who grew up in San Francisco
    politics mentored by Mayor Willie Brown, seemingly without learning too
    many lessons from politics, upon the rest of the nation. I will never
    forgive her for those 2020 debate tactics attacking Joe Biden as a
    racist for opposing school busing decades ago, that somehow made her an acceptable candidate for vice president 'cuz she'd been, er, politically
    vetted for she made me feel sympathy for Biden.

    Revenge REVENGE!

    Oh! I forgot. BUILD THE WALL

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Fri May 23 17:48:08 2025
    On May 23, 2025 at 9:49:33 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <[email protected]> wrote:

    BTR1701 <[email protected]> wrote:
    May 22, 2025 at 9:44:53 PM PDT, Adam H. Kerman <[email protected]> wrote:
    Adam H. Kerman <[email protected]> wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <[email protected]d> wrote:
    5/19/25 11:28 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    May 19, 2025 at 10:03:29 AM PDT, Adam H. Kerman <[email protected]>:

    . . .

    The "original sin" of the title was not letting Biden have his choice >>>>>>> for running mate -- Gretchen Whitmer -- after the death of George Floyd.
    No one in his administration wanted to work with Kamala and no one >>>>>>> thought she was ready to be president nor win an election.

    And yet it looks like the powers-that-be are maneuvering her to be >>>>>> the next governor of California. If that happens, Illinois can just >>>>>> give up. It'll never catch California in the race to the bottom.

    You're right - that will beat Adam in one move.

    Yeah, 'cuz it's possible that my state could run out of politicians who >>>> will act against the interest of contituents.

    Kamala! Kamala! Kamala!

    The political tremors will set off actual tremors in the San Andrea
    Fault! Lex Luthor's evil real estate development scheme is coming to
    fruition!


    https://apnews.com/article/kamala-harris-2028-democrats-california-president-governor-6d3b5bef946b9c51c8096328865d3a84

    It's telling that all their "pros" and "cons" are in relation to
    her. What's good for her, what's not good for her. Not what's good for
    the country or the state of California.

    Keeping her in California and never letting her leave is good for the country. The national media is providing a public service here.

    It's retaliation for inflicting someone who grew up in San Francisco
    politics mentored by Mayor Willie Brown

    Hehe... you said 'mentored'...

    seemingly without learning too
    many lessons from politics, upon the rest of the nation. I will never
    forgive her for those 2020 debate tactics attacking Joe Biden as a
    racist for opposing school busing decades ago, that somehow made her an acceptable candidate for vice president 'cuz she'd been, er, politically vetted for she made me feel sympathy for Biden.

    Revenge REVENGE!

    Oh! I forgot. BUILD THE WALL

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