• Haymarket amd Kemt State

    From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 4 15:14:46 2025
    May 4th (May the Force be with you) is the anniversary of both Haymarket
    and Kent State. May 1, May Day, International Workers Day, actually commemorates the events that led up to trial of the Haymarket 8 in 1886.
    The rest of the world celebrates Labor Day commemorating this event in
    Chicago.

    The Wikipedia articles says there are two alternate theories as to why
    the celebration of labor in the United States is the first Monday in
    September, both of which were suggested in 1882, before Haymarket.
    Making it a federal holiday happened after the Pullman strike in 1894,
    also in Chicago.

    Kent State was 1970, in which multiple students and anti-war protestors
    were shot by the Ohio National Guard. 4 died, 9 wounded

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Sun May 4 14:23:36 2025
    On 2025-05-04 11:14 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    May 4th (May the Force be with you) is the anniversary of both Haymarket
    and Kent State. May 1, May Day, International Workers Day, actually commemorates the events that led up to trial of the Haymarket 8 in 1886.
    The rest of the world celebrates Labor Day commemorating this event in Chicago.

    The Wikipedia articles says there are two alternate theories as to why
    the celebration of labor in the United States is the first Monday in September, both of which were suggested in 1882, before Haymarket.
    Making it a federal holiday happened after the Pullman strike in 1894,
    also in Chicago.

    Kent State was 1970, in which multiple students and anti-war protestors
    were shot by the Ohio National Guard. 4 died, 9 wounded

    Canada also celebrates Labour Day on the first Monday in September.

    --
    Rhino

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Rhino on Sun May 4 18:31:35 2025
    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2025-05-04 11:14 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    May 4th (May the Force be with you) is the anniversary of both Haymarket >>and Kent State. May 1, May Day, International Workers Day, actually >>commemorates the events that led up to trial of the Haymarket 8 in 1886. >>The rest of the world celebrates Labor Day commemorating this event in >>Chicago.

    The Wikipedia articles says there are two alternate theories as to why
    the celebration of labor in the United States is the first Monday in >>September, both of which were suggested in 1882, before Haymarket.
    Making it a federal holiday happened after the Pullman strike in 1894,
    also in Chicago.

    Kent State was 1970, in which multiple students and anti-war protestors >>were shot by the Ohio National Guard. 4 died, 9 wounded

    Canada also celebrates Labour Day on the first Monday in September.

    Yeah. That was the second possible theory offered on the Wikipedia page,
    that an American labor leader witnessed a labor celebration in Toronto
    in early September, so if that's true, then the early September date
    originated in Canada.

    It's probably not coincidence that a date was chosen when the weather
    would still be nice. In America it's about half way between Independence
    Day and Thanksgiving.

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  • From Ian J. Ball@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Sun May 4 11:53:30 2025
    On 5/4/25 11:31 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2025-05-04 11:14 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    May 4th (May the Force be with you) is the anniversary of both Haymarket >>> and Kent State. May 1, May Day, International Workers Day, actually
    commemorates the events that led up to trial of the Haymarket 8 in 1886. >>> The rest of the world celebrates Labor Day commemorating this event in
    Chicago.

    The Wikipedia articles says there are two alternate theories as to why
    the celebration of labor in the United States is the first Monday in
    September, both of which were suggested in 1882, before Haymarket.
    Making it a federal holiday happened after the Pullman strike in 1894,
    also in Chicago.

    Kent State was 1970, in which multiple students and anti-war protestors
    were shot by the Ohio National Guard. 4 died, 9 wounded

    Canada also celebrates Labour Day on the first Monday in September.

    Yeah. That was the second possible theory offered on the Wikipedia page,
    that an American labor leader witnessed a labor celebration in Toronto
    in early September, so if that's true, then the early September date originated in Canada.

    It's probably not coincidence that a date was chosen when the weather
    would still be nice. In America it's about half way between Independence
    Day and Thanksgiving.

    I prefer to think that we chose the Sept. date to stick it to the
    Commies! But if the U.S. one predates the Commies/Labor Commies... then
    I got nothin'!

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Ian J. Ball on Sun May 4 19:04:30 2025
    Ian J. Ball <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On 5/4/25 11:31 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2025-05-04 11:14 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    May 4th (May the Force be with you) is the anniversary of both Haymarket >>>>and Kent State. May 1, May Day, International Workers Day, actually >>>>commemorates the events that led up to trial of the Haymarket 8 in 1886. >>>>The rest of the world celebrates Labor Day commemorating this event in >>>>Chicago.

    The Wikipedia articles says there are two alternate theories as to why >>>>the celebration of labor in the United States is the first Monday in >>>>September, both of which were suggested in 1882, before Haymarket. >>>>Making it a federal holiday happened after the Pullman strike in 1894, >>>>also in Chicago.

    Kent State was 1970, in which multiple students and anti-war protestors >>>>were shot by the Ohio National Guard. 4 died, 9 wounded

    Canada also celebrates Labour Day on the first Monday in September.

    Yeah. That was the second possible theory offered on the Wikipedia page, >>that an American labor leader witnessed a labor celebration in Toronto
    in early September, so if that's true, then the early September date >>originated in Canada.

    It's probably not coincidence that a date was chosen when the weather
    would still be nice. In America it's about half way between Independence >>Day and Thanksgiving.

    I prefer to think that we chose the Sept. date to stick it to the
    Commies! But if the U.S. one predates the Commies/Labor Commies... then
    I got nothin'!

    I used to think exactly the same thing till I looked it up, but it's
    still hysterical that the Commies are commemorating an important event
    in American labor history.

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