• [OT] Why we should be more patient with people learning English

    From Rhino@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 25 11:16:28 2025
    Here in the West, meeting people who are new to the English language is
    a very common occurrence. We all hear people struggling with the
    language and we all react with varying degrees of patience to it. Some
    of us claim that we don't have any idea what the other person is saying
    while others seem to follow the other person fairly effortlessly. This
    video provides an argument for why we should be more patient:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lhxxiqqlQY [21 minutes]

    The fact of the matter is that English is WEIRD. It has a lot of
    significant differences in it from the vast majority of languages. These differences are far more than just the words we use but the structure of
    the language and the way our grammar works compared to most other
    languages.

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    Rhino

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Rhino on Fri Apr 25 17:22:50 2025
    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:

    Here in the West, meeting people who are new to the English language is
    a very common occurrence. We all hear people struggling with the
    language and we all react with varying degrees of patience to it. Some
    of us claim that we don't have any idea what the other person is saying
    while others seem to follow the other person fairly effortlessly. This
    video provides an argument for why we should be more patient:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lhxxiqqlQY [21 minutes]

    The fact of the matter is that English is WEIRD. It has a lot of
    significant differences in it from the vast majority of languages. These >differences are far more than just the words we use but the structure of
    the language and the way our grammar works compared to most other
    languages.

    I've said this before and I'll say this again. The Norman Conquest of
    1066 is what led to English's suitability to become the world's universal language, plus that the UK had colonized half of the world. Old English
    was a Germanic language. Middle English was about half and half Germanic
    and Romance. Thereafter, if English needed a word, it borrowed it from
    another language. English was now impure. As we know, French, the language
    of diplomacy (scoff), lost its universalness when scholars deliberately
    purged loan words in the 19th century.

    It's a feature, not a bug.

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri May 2 04:32:43 2025
    In article <vuggda$e29i$[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:

    Here in the West, meeting people who are new to the English language is
    a very common occurrence. We all hear people struggling with the
    language and we all react with varying degrees of patience to it. Some
    of us claim that we don't have any idea what the other person is saying >>while others seem to follow the other person fairly effortlessly. This >>video provides an argument for why we should be more patient:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lhxxiqqlQY [21 minutes]

    The fact of the matter is that English is WEIRD. It has a lot of >>significant differences in it from the vast majority of languages. These >>differences are far more than just the words we use but the structure of >>the language and the way our grammar works compared to most other >>languages.

    I've said this before and I'll say this again. The Norman Conquest of
    1066 is what led to English's suitability to become the world's universal >language, plus that the UK had colonized half of the world.

    I think America becoming a world superpower was a greater reason.

    [Kerman's incorrect formatting fixed.]

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