• British Man Arrested for Saying He Doesn't Like Palestinian Flags

    From BTR1701@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 23 20:28:57 2025
    British man posts online that he doesn't like to see all the Palestine flags
    in his city. Shortly afterward, at 4MA, British police broke into his house
    and arrested him for it.

    https://x.com/RadioGenoa/status/1903716412968857769

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 23 17:12:01 2025
    On 3/23/2025 4:28 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    British man posts online that he doesn't like to see all the Palestine flags in his city. Shortly afterward, at 4MA, British police broke into his house and arrested him for it.

    https://x.com/RadioGenoa/status/1903716412968857769

    If you say so. I can't understand a word they're saying...

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to moviePig on Sun Mar 23 21:21:27 2025
    On Mar 23, 2025 at 2:12:01 PM PDT, "moviePig" <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 3/23/2025 4:28 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

    British man posts online that he doesn't like to see all the Palestine flags
    in his city. Shortly afterward, at 4AM, British police broke into his house >> and arrested him for it.

    https://x.com/RadioGenoa/status/1903716412968857769

    If you say so. I can't understand a word they're saying...

    I do say so because it happened, your lack of discernment notwithstanding.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Mar 23 21:25:31 2025
    BTR1701 <[email protected]> wrote:

    British man posts online that he doesn't like to see all the Palestine flags >in his city. Shortly afterward, at 4MA, British police broke into his house >and arrested him for it.

    https://x.com/RadioGenoa/status/1903716412968857769

    I had a very difficult time hearing the audio.

    Is it this arrest at 9:55 pm Tuesday 10/31/2023

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1830176/man-arrested-racist-palestine-flag-video

    The charge: racially aggravated Section 5 public order offence

    If the objection is to flying a flag, which is an assertion of
    nationalism, I don't see the "racial" aspect. Note that this is an
    AGGRAVATING factor; the prosecution is seeking a steeper penalty.

    But this is a moviePig crime and words mean whatever we want them to
    mean. "Racial" includes "nationality" or "national origins". Remember,
    it's the offender's perception, not the fact of the group offended. It's
    an expression of hostility and if the offender expressed hostility that
    is NOT criminalized, that's not considered.

    https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1998/37/section/28

    moviePig wrote these helpful charging guidelines to guide police:

    https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/public-order-offences-incorporating-charging-standard#a07

    The underlying crime includes Section 4. Check out the interpretation
    that the offending speaker could be a victim of another crime himself
    when he utters offending words and can thus be charged with his own
    crime. In fact, Section 4 applies even if what the offender did isn't an assault!

    https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/public-order-offences-incorporating-charging-standard#a07

    moviePig has already won.

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Sun Mar 23 17:56:54 2025
    On 2025-03-23 5:25 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    BTR1701 <[email protected]> wrote:

    British man posts online that he doesn't like to see all the Palestine flags >> in his city. Shortly afterward, at 4MA, British police broke into his house >> and arrested him for it.

    https://x.com/RadioGenoa/status/1903716412968857769

    I had a very difficult time hearing the audio.

    Is it this arrest at 9:55 pm Tuesday 10/31/2023

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1830176/man-arrested-racist-palestine-flag-video

    The charge: racially aggravated Section 5 public order offence

    If the objection is to flying a flag, which is an assertion of
    nationalism, I don't see the "racial" aspect. Note that this is an AGGRAVATING factor; the prosecution is seeking a steeper penalty.

    But this is a moviePig crime and words mean whatever we want them to
    mean. "Racial" includes "nationality" or "national origins". Remember,
    it's the offender's perception, not the fact of the group offended. It's
    an expression of hostility and if the offender expressed hostility that
    is NOT criminalized, that's not considered.

    https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1998/37/section/28

    moviePig wrote these helpful charging guidelines to guide police:

    https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/public-order-offences-incorporating-charging-standard#a07

    The underlying crime includes Section 4. Check out the interpretation
    that the offending speaker could be a victim of another crime himself
    when he utters offending words and can thus be charged with his own
    crime. In fact, Section 4 applies even if what the offender did isn't an assault!

    https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/public-order-offences-incorporating-charging-standard#a07

    moviePig has already won.

    To paraphrase something whose origins I've forgotten: "It's a moviePig
    world and we're just living in it - for now."

    --
    Rhino

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to Rhino on Sun Mar 23 18:19:49 2025
    On 3/23/2025 5:56 PM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2025-03-23 5:25 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    BTR1701 <[email protected]> wrote:

    British man posts online that he doesn't like to see all the
    Palestine flags
    in his city. Shortly afterward, at 4MA, British police broke into his
    house
    and arrested him for it.

    https://x.com/RadioGenoa/status/1903716412968857769

    I had a very difficult time hearing the audio.

    Is it this arrest at 9:55 pm Tuesday 10/31/2023

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1830176/man-arrested-racist-
    palestine-flag-video

    The charge: racially aggravated Section 5 public order offence

    If the objection is to flying a flag, which is an assertion of
    nationalism, I don't see the "racial" aspect. Note that this is an
    AGGRAVATING factor; the prosecution is seeking a steeper penalty.

    But this is a moviePig crime and words mean whatever we want them to
    mean. "Racial" includes "nationality" or "national origins". Remember,
    it's the offender's perception, not the fact of the group offended. It's
    an expression of hostility and if the offender expressed hostility that
    is NOT criminalized, that's not considered.

    https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1998/37/section/28

    moviePig wrote these helpful charging guidelines to guide police:

    https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/public-order-offences-
    incorporating-charging-standard#a07

    The underlying crime includes Section 4. Check out the interpretation
    that the offending speaker could be a victim of another crime himself
    when he utters offending words and can thus be charged with his own
    crime. In fact, Section 4 applies even if what the offender did isn't an
    assault!

    https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/public-order-offences-
    incorporating-charging-standard#a07

    moviePig has already won.

    To paraphrase something whose origins I've forgotten: "It's a moviePig
    world and we're just living in it - for now."

    Well, at least you can bet it'd never be the other way round...

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to moviePig on Sun Mar 23 19:12:15 2025
    On 2025-03-23 6:19 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 3/23/2025 5:56 PM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2025-03-23 5:25 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    BTR1701 <[email protected]> wrote:

    British man posts online that he doesn't like to see all the
    Palestine flags
    in his city. Shortly afterward, at 4MA, British police broke into
    his house
    and arrested him for it.

    https://x.com/RadioGenoa/status/1903716412968857769

    I had a very difficult time hearing the audio.

    Is it this arrest at 9:55 pm Tuesday 10/31/2023

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1830176/man-arrested-racist-
    palestine-flag-video

    The charge: racially aggravated Section 5 public order offence

    If the objection is to flying a flag, which is an assertion of
    nationalism, I don't see the "racial" aspect. Note that this is an
    AGGRAVATING factor; the prosecution is seeking a steeper penalty.

    But this is a moviePig crime and words mean whatever we want them to
    mean. "Racial" includes "nationality" or "national origins". Remember,
    it's the offender's perception, not the fact of the group offended. It's >>> an expression of hostility and if the offender expressed hostility that
    is NOT criminalized, that's not considered.

    https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1998/37/section/28

    moviePig wrote these helpful charging guidelines to guide police:

    https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/public-order-offences-
    incorporating-charging-standard#a07

    The underlying crime includes Section 4. Check out the interpretation
    that the offending speaker could be a victim of another crime himselfS
    when he utters offending words and can thus be charged with his own
    crime. In fact, Section 4 applies even if what the offender did isn't an >>> assault!

    https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/public-order-offences-
    incorporating-charging-standard#a07

    moviePig has already won.

    To paraphrase something whose origins I've forgotten: "It's a moviePig
    world and we're just living in it - for now."

    Well, at least you can bet it'd never be the other way round...


    So you're saying you'd kill yourself rather than living in conservative/libertarian world?? Seems a bit extreme. Maybe you should
    try it before you make a final decision....


    --
    Rhino

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