Prior to accepting the role of Obi-wan (Ben) Kenobi, Sir Alec
Guinness wrote the following to a friend:
[Snip]
"I shrivel up every time someone mentions
STAR WARS to me."
BTR1701 wrote:
Prior to accepting the role of Obi-wan (Ben) Kenobi, Sir Alec
Guinness wrote the following to a friend:
[Snip]
"I shrivel up every time someone mentions
STAR WARS to me."
I kind of do that whenever I hear they are going to make a new
"Star Wars" movie...
On 2025-03-19 22:59:10 +0000, Blueshirt said:
BTR1701 wrote:
Prior to accepting the role of Obi-wan (Ben) Kenobi, Sir Alec
Guinness wrote the following to a friend:
[Snip]
"I shrivel up every time someone mentions
STAR WARS to me."
I kind of do that whenever I hear they are going to make a new
"Star Wars" movie...
That quote was made by Sir Alec Guinness *after* he had played the role
in the original "Star Wars" movie. Obi-Wan was meant to in the following movies to train Luke, but Guinness hated the role and didn't want to do
any more, so they killed off the character (he only briefly appeared as
a Jedi ghost) and added Yoda instead. It was only in later years that he mellowed, a little, towards what has arguably become his most famous role.
On 2025-03-19 8:20 PM, Your Name wrote:
On 2025-03-19 22:59:10 +0000, Blueshirt said:I certainly think HE would argue that it was far from his *best* role, >although he might admit more people saw him in Star Wars than in
BTR1701 wrote:
Prior to accepting the role of Obi-wan (Ben) Kenobi, Sir Alec
Guinness wrote the following to a friend:
[Snip]
"I shrivel up every time someone mentions
STAR WARS to me."
I kind of do that whenever I hear they are going to make a new
"Star Wars" movie...
That quote was made by Sir Alec Guinness *after* he had played the role
in the original "Star Wars" movie. Obi-Wan was meant to in the following
movies to train Luke, but Guinness hated the role and didn't want to do
any more, so they killed off the character (he only briefly appeared as
a Jedi ghost) and added Yoda instead. It was only in later years that he
mellowed, a little, towards what has arguably become his most famous role. >>
anything else.
Mind you, Bridge on the River Kwai got seen by a lot of people in its
day and is *still* appreciated as a quality film whereas Star Wars
probably only merits being called a *popular* film.
Prior to accepting the role of Obi-wan (Ben) Kenobi, Sir Alec Guinness wrote >the following to a friend:
I have been offered a movie (20th Cent. Fox) which
I may accept, if they come up with proper money.
London and N. Africa, starting in mid-March. Science
fiction - which gives me pause - but is to be directed
by Paul [sic] Lucas who did AMERICAN GRAFFITI,
which makes me feel I should. Big part. Fairy-tale
rubbish but could be interesting perhaps.
After he arrived on set, he did not change his opinion that the movie was >"rubbish":
...new rubbish dialogue reaches me every
other day on wadges of pink paper - and none of
it makes my character clear or even bearable. I
just think, thankfully, of the lovely bread, which
will help me keep going until next April even if
YAHOO [a play in which Guinness played satirist
Jonathan Swift] collapses in a week ... I must off
to studio and work with a dwarf (very sweet - and
he has to wash in a bidet) and your fellow countrymen
Mark Hamill and Tennyson (that can't be
right) Ford. Ellison (? - No!) - well, a rangy, languid
young man who is probably intelligent and amusing.
But oh, God, they make me feel ninety - and treat
me as if I was 106. - Oh, Harrison Ford - ever
heard of him?
Later on in the filming, Guinness wrote:
"Apart from the money, I regret having embarked
on the film. I like them well enough, but it's not an
acting job, the dialogue - which is lamentable - keeps
being changed and only slightly improved, and I find
myself old and out of touch with the young"
He did have some nice things to say about the completed film:
"It's a pretty staggering film as spectacle, and
technically brilliant. Exciting, very noisy and warm-
hearted. The battle scenes at the end go on for
five minutes too long, I feel, and some of the dialogue
is excruciating and much of it is lost in noise, but
it remains a vivid experience"
However, it was not an experience he liked to talk about afterwards:
"I shrivel up every time someone mentions
STAR WARS to me."
shawn <[email protected]> wrote:
. . .
All true, but at least with STAR WARS you have a film that is popular
with people of all ages. I don't think the same is true with BRIDGE
OVER THE RIVER KWAI.
Huh? I loved that movie as a kid.
BTR1701 <[email protected]> wrote:
Prior to accepting the role of Obi-wan (Ben) Kenobi, Sir Alec Guinness wrote >> the following to a friend:
I have been offered a movie (20th Cent. Fox) which
I may accept, if they come up with proper money.
London and N. Africa, starting in mid-March. Science
fiction - which gives me pause - but is to be directed
by Paul [sic] Lucas who did AMERICAN GRAFFITI,
which makes me feel I should. Big part. Fairy-tale
rubbish but could be interesting perhaps.
After he arrived on set, he did not change his opinion that the movie was
"rubbish":
...new rubbish dialogue reaches me every
other day on wadges of pink paper - and none of
it makes my character clear or even bearable. I
just think, thankfully, of the lovely bread, which
will help me keep going until next April even if
YAHOO [a play in which Guinness played satirist
Jonathan Swift] collapses in a week ... I must off
to studio and work with a dwarf (very sweet - and
he has to wash in a bidet) and your fellow countrymen
Mark Hamill and Tennyson (that can't be
right) Ford. Ellison (? - No!) - well, a rangy, languid
young man who is probably intelligent and amusing.
But oh, God, they make me feel ninety - and treat
me as if I was 106. - Oh, Harrison Ford - ever
heard of him?
Dude! You saw American Graffiti directed by Paul Lucas! Ellison Ford had
a small role in the movie!
Later on in the filming, Guinness wrote:
"Apart from the money, I regret having embarked
on the film. I like them well enough, but it's not an
acting job, the dialogue - which is lamentable - keeps
being changed and only slightly improved, and I find
myself old and out of touch with the young"
To be fair, everybody hates that the script is never finished.
He did have some nice things to say about the completed film:
"It's a pretty staggering film as spectacle, and
technically brilliant. Exciting, very noisy and warm-
hearted. The battle scenes at the end go on for
five minutes too long, I feel, and some of the dialogue
is excruciating and much of it is lost in noise, but
it remains a vivid experience"
However, it was not an experience he liked to talk about afterwards:
"I shrivel up every time someone mentions
STAR WARS to me."
Clark Gable despised making Gone With the Wind, and thought It Happened
One Night was utter shite.
Uh, raise your hand if you want to hear an actor's opinion on what makes
a movie entertaining. Anybody? Don't all get up at once.
On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 20:34:19 -0400, Rhino
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-03-19 8:20 PM, Your Name wrote:
On 2025-03-19 22:59:10 +0000, Blueshirt said:I certainly think HE would argue that it was far from his *best* role,
BTR1701 wrote:
Prior to accepting the role of Obi-wan (Ben) Kenobi, Sir Alec
Guinness wrote the following to a friend:
[Snip]
"I shrivel up every time someone mentions
STAR WARS to me."
I kind of do that whenever I hear they are going to make a new
"Star Wars" movie...
That quote was made by Sir Alec Guinness *after* he had played the role
in the original "Star Wars" movie. Obi-Wan was meant to in the following >>> movies to train Luke, but Guinness hated the role and didn't want to do
any more, so they killed off the character (he only briefly appeared as
a Jedi ghost) and added Yoda instead. It was only in later years that he >>> mellowed, a little, towards what has arguably become his most famous role. >>
although he might admit more people saw him in Star Wars than in
anything else.
Mind you, Bridge on the River Kwai got seen by a lot of people in its
day and is *still* appreciated as a quality film whereas Star Wars
probably only merits being called a *popular* film.
All true, but at least with STAR WARS you have a film that is popular
with people of all ages. I don't think the same is true with BRIDGE
OVER THE RIVER KWAI.
On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 20:34:19 -0400, Rhino
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-03-19 8:20 PM, Your Name wrote:
On 2025-03-19 22:59:10 +0000, Blueshirt said:I certainly think HE would argue that it was far from his *best* role,
BTR1701 wrote:
Prior to accepting the role of Obi-wan (Ben) Kenobi, Sir Alec
Guinness wrote the following to a friend:
[Snip]
"I shrivel up every time someone mentions
STAR WARS to me."
I kind of do that whenever I hear they are going to make a new
"Star Wars" movie...
That quote was made by Sir Alec Guinness *after* he had played the role
in the original "Star Wars" movie. Obi-Wan was meant to in the following >>> movies to train Luke, but Guinness hated the role and didn't want to do
any more, so they killed off the character (he only briefly appeared as
a Jedi ghost) and added Yoda instead. It was only in later years that he >>> mellowed, a little, towards what has arguably become his most famous role. >>>
although he might admit more people saw him in Star Wars than in
anything else.
Mind you, Bridge on the River Kwai got seen by a lot of people in its
day and is *still* appreciated as a quality film whereas Star Wars
probably only merits being called a *popular* film.
All true, but at least with STAR WARS you have a film that is popular
with people of all ages. I don't think the same is true with BRIDGE
OVER THE RIVER KWAI.
On 3/19/25 6:14 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
BTR1701 <[email protected]> wrote:
Prior to accepting the role of Obi-wan (Ben) Kenobi, Sir Alec
Guinness wrote
the following to a friend:
I have been offered a movie (20th Cent. Fox) which
I may accept, if they come up with proper money.
London and N. Africa, starting in mid-March. Science
fiction - which gives me pause - but is to be directed
by Paul [sic] Lucas who did AMERICAN GRAFFITI,
which makes me feel I should. Big part. Fairy-tale
rubbish but could be interesting perhaps.
After he arrived on set, he did not change his opinion that the movie
was
"rubbish":
...new rubbish dialogue reaches me every
other day on wadges of pink paper - and none of
it makes my character clear or even bearable. I
just think, thankfully, of the lovely bread, which
will help me keep going until next April even if
YAHOO [a play in which Guinness played satirist
Jonathan Swift] collapses in a week ... I must off
to studio and work with a dwarf (very sweet - and
he has to wash in a bidet) and your fellow countrymen
Mark Hamill and Tennyson (that can't be
right) Ford. Ellison (? - No!) - well, a rangy, languid
young man who is probably intelligent and amusing.
But oh, God, they make me feel ninety - and treat
me as if I was 106. - Oh, Harrison Ford - ever
heard of him?
Dude! You saw American Graffiti directed by Paul Lucas! Ellison Ford had
a small role in the movie!
Later on in the filming, Guinness wrote:
"Apart from the money, I regret having embarked
on the film. I like them well enough, but it's not an
acting job, the dialogue - which is lamentable - keeps
being changed and only slightly improved, and I find
myself old and out of touch with the young"
To be fair, everybody hates that the script is never finished.
He did have some nice things to say about the completed film:
"It's a pretty staggering film as spectacle, and
technically brilliant. Exciting, very noisy and warm-
hearted. The battle scenes at the end go on for
five minutes too long, I feel, and some of the dialogue
is excruciating and much of it is lost in noise, but
it remains a vivid experience"
However, it was not an experience he liked to talk about afterwards:
"I shrivel up every time someone mentions
STAR WARS to me."
Clark Gable despised making Gone With the Wind, and thought It Happened
One Night was utter shite.
I saw the latter, in the 1990s(?), and did not care for it.
Uh, raise your hand if you want to hear an actor's opinion on what makes
a movie entertaining. Anybody? Don't all get up at once.
Yeah, a lot of actors get their own stuff wrong. Musicians too! (There's
a doc on Yes where the bandmembers clearly didn't understand how great
an album "Relayer" was!!)
. . .
All true, but at least with STAR WARS you have a film that is popular
with people of all ages. I don't think the same is true with BRIDGE
OVER THE RIVER KWAI.
On 2025-03-19 9:36 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 3/19/25 6:14 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:I finally saw it a year or so back and didn't much care for it either.
BTR1701 <[email protected]> wrote:
Prior to accepting the role of Obi-wan (Ben) Kenobi, Sir Alec
Guinness wrote
the following to a friend:
I have been offered a movie (20th Cent. Fox) which
I may accept, if they come up with proper money.
London and N. Africa, starting in mid-March. Science
fiction - which gives me pause - but is to be directed
by Paul [sic] Lucas who did AMERICAN GRAFFITI,
which makes me feel I should. Big part. Fairy-tale
rubbish but could be interesting perhaps.
After he arrived on set, he did not change his opinion that the movie
was
"rubbish":
...new rubbish dialogue reaches me every
other day on wadges of pink paper - and none of
it makes my character clear or even bearable. I
just think, thankfully, of the lovely bread, which
will help me keep going until next April even if
YAHOO [a play in which Guinness played satirist
Jonathan Swift] collapses in a week ... I must off
to studio and work with a dwarf (very sweet - and
he has to wash in a bidet) and your fellow countrymen
Mark Hamill and Tennyson (that can't be
right) Ford. Ellison (? - No!) - well, a rangy, languid
young man who is probably intelligent and amusing.
But oh, God, they make me feel ninety - and treat
me as if I was 106. - Oh, Harrison Ford - ever
heard of him?
Dude! You saw American Graffiti directed by Paul Lucas! Ellison Ford had >>> a small role in the movie!
Later on in the filming, Guinness wrote:
"Apart from the money, I regret having embarked
on the film. I like them well enough, but it's not an
acting job, the dialogue - which is lamentable - keeps
being changed and only slightly improved, and I find
myself old and out of touch with the young"
To be fair, everybody hates that the script is never finished.
He did have some nice things to say about the completed film:
"It's a pretty staggering film as spectacle, and
technically brilliant. Exciting, very noisy and warm-
hearted. The battle scenes at the end go on for
five minutes too long, I feel, and some of the dialogue
is excruciating and much of it is lost in noise, but
it remains a vivid experience"
However, it was not an experience he liked to talk about afterwards:
"I shrivel up every time someone mentions
STAR WARS to me."
Clark Gable despised making Gone With the Wind, and thought It Happened
One Night was utter shite.
I saw the latter, in the 1990s(?), and did not care for it.
Savages! Relayer is a fine album!!Uh, raise your hand if you want to hear an actor's opinion on what makes >>> a movie entertaining. Anybody? Don't all get up at once.
Yeah, a lot of actors get their own stuff wrong. Musicians too! (There's
a doc on Yes where the bandmembers clearly didn't understand how great
an album "Relayer" was!!)
I had no idea you were a Yes fan. Have you ever listened to Rick Wakeman >being interviewed? He is a legendary keyboardist (and yes, I know he
didn't play on Relayer) but also a truly entertaining speaker, full of >stories of his life as a musician, both with Yes and playing with other >people. He's also written two books full of anecdotes about his career.
I haven't laughed so hard in YEARS!
On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 21:58:18 -0400, Rhino
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-03-19 9:36 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 3/19/25 6:14 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:I finally saw it a year or so back and didn't much care for it either.
BTR1701 <[email protected]> wrote:
Prior to accepting the role of Obi-wan (Ben) Kenobi, Sir Alec
Guinness wrote
the following to a friend:
I have been offered a movie (20th Cent. Fox) which
I may accept, if they come up with proper money.
London and N. Africa, starting in mid-March. Science
fiction - which gives me pause - but is to be directed
by Paul [sic] Lucas who did AMERICAN GRAFFITI,
which makes me feel I should. Big part. Fairy-tale
rubbish but could be interesting perhaps.
After he arrived on set, he did not change his opinion that the movie >>>>> was
"rubbish":
...new rubbish dialogue reaches me every
other day on wadges of pink paper - and none of
it makes my character clear or even bearable. I
just think, thankfully, of the lovely bread, which
will help me keep going until next April even if
YAHOO [a play in which Guinness played satirist
Jonathan Swift] collapses in a week ... I must off
to studio and work with a dwarf (very sweet - and
he has to wash in a bidet) and your fellow countrymen
Mark Hamill and Tennyson (that can't be
right) Ford. Ellison (? - No!) - well, a rangy, languid
young man who is probably intelligent and amusing.
But oh, God, they make me feel ninety - and treat
me as if I was 106. - Oh, Harrison Ford - ever
heard of him?
Dude! You saw American Graffiti directed by Paul Lucas! Ellison Ford had >>>> a small role in the movie!
Later on in the filming, Guinness wrote:
"Apart from the money, I regret having embarked
on the film. I like them well enough, but it's not an
acting job, the dialogue - which is lamentable - keeps
being changed and only slightly improved, and I find
myself old and out of touch with the young"
To be fair, everybody hates that the script is never finished.
He did have some nice things to say about the completed film:
"It's a pretty staggering film as spectacle, and
technically brilliant. Exciting, very noisy and warm-
hearted. The battle scenes at the end go on for
five minutes too long, I feel, and some of the dialogue
is excruciating and much of it is lost in noise, but
it remains a vivid experience"
However, it was not an experience he liked to talk about afterwards:
"I shrivel up every time someone mentions
STAR WARS to me."
Clark Gable despised making Gone With the Wind, and thought It Happened >>>> One Night was utter shite.
I saw the latter, in the 1990s(?), and did not care for it.
Savages! Relayer is a fine album!!Uh, raise your hand if you want to hear an actor's opinion on what makes >>>> a movie entertaining. Anybody? Don't all get up at once.
Yeah, a lot of actors get their own stuff wrong. Musicians too! (There's >>> a doc on Yes where the bandmembers clearly didn't understand how great
an album "Relayer" was!!)
I had no idea you were a Yes fan. Have you ever listened to Rick Wakeman
being interviewed? He is a legendary keyboardist (and yes, I know he
didn't play on Relayer) but also a truly entertaining speaker, full of
stories of his life as a musician, both with Yes and playing with other
people. He's also written two books full of anecdotes about his career.
I haven't laughed so hard in YEARS!
You mean like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zppfjeculUs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4CCMeTlDXI
This one shows some of his skill at the keyboard.
Thu, 20 Mar 2025 01:16:45 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman <[email protected]>: >>shawn <[email protected]> wrote:
. . .
All true, but at least with STAR WARS you have a film that is popular >>>with people of all ages. I don't think the same is true with BRIDGE
OVER THE RIVER KWAI.
Huh? I loved that movie as a kid.
Yes, but back then it was a new movie.
Now it's a really old movie and it seems most young people don't pay a
lot of attention to older movies.
On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 23:43:22 -0400, Rhino
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-03-19 10:53 PM, shawn wrote:
On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 21:58:18 -0400, Rhino
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-03-19 9:36 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 3/19/25 6:14 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
BTR1701 <[email protected]> wrote:
I had no idea you were a Yes fan. Have you ever listened to Rick Wakeman >>>> being interviewed? He is a legendary keyboardist (and yes, I know he
didn't play on Relayer) but also a truly entertaining speaker, full of >>>> stories of his life as a musician, both with Yes and playing with other >>>> people. He's also written two books full of anecdotes about his career. >>>> I haven't laughed so hard in YEARS!
You mean like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zppfjeculUs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4CCMeTlDXI
This one shows some of his skill at the keyboard.
The second of those is an excerpt from the first - or at least the same >>interview. Beato may have removed some bits of the longer interview from >>his main channel and put it on the second channel. (I've only watched
the full interview once and certainly haven't memorized it.)
It's a fine interview but the books contain a lot of stories from a >>colourful life; some of them aren't even music-related. He tells a great >>story about meeting some submariners while drinking after a gig and then >>being smuggled aboard their (top secret) sub to have a look around,
which had a hilarious sequel. His adventures with home repair are >>surprising too. He was a notorious boozer and smoker who went cold
turkey with zero effort after he had some health scares. He seems like a >>remarkably down-to-earth and approachable individual despite his fame.
I'd love to spend an afternoon talking to him.
Ah, you mean his sense of humor like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i34kuOqEXRc
On 2025-03-19 10:53 PM, shawn wrote:
On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 21:58:18 -0400, Rhino
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-03-19 9:36 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 3/19/25 6:14 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:I finally saw it a year or so back and didn't much care for it either.
BTR1701 <[email protected]> wrote:
Prior to accepting the role of Obi-wan (Ben) Kenobi, Sir Alec
Guinness wrote
the following to a friend:
I have been offered a movie (20th Cent. Fox) which
I may accept, if they come up with proper money.
London and N. Africa, starting in mid-March. Science
fiction - which gives me pause - but is to be directed
by Paul [sic] Lucas who did AMERICAN GRAFFITI,
which makes me feel I should. Big part. Fairy-tale
rubbish but could be interesting perhaps.
After he arrived on set, he did not change his opinion that the movie >>>>>> was
"rubbish":
...new rubbish dialogue reaches me every
other day on wadges of pink paper - and none of
it makes my character clear or even bearable. I
just think, thankfully, of the lovely bread, which
will help me keep going until next April even if
YAHOO [a play in which Guinness played satirist
Jonathan Swift] collapses in a week ... I must off
to studio and work with a dwarf (very sweet - and
he has to wash in a bidet) and your fellow countrymen
Mark Hamill and Tennyson (that can't be
right) Ford. Ellison (? - No!) - well, a rangy, languid
young man who is probably intelligent and amusing.
But oh, God, they make me feel ninety - and treat
me as if I was 106. - Oh, Harrison Ford - ever
heard of him?
Dude! You saw American Graffiti directed by Paul Lucas! Ellison Ford had >>>>> a small role in the movie!
Later on in the filming, Guinness wrote:
"Apart from the money, I regret having embarked
on the film. I like them well enough, but it's not an
acting job, the dialogue - which is lamentable - keeps
being changed and only slightly improved, and I find
myself old and out of touch with the young"
To be fair, everybody hates that the script is never finished.
He did have some nice things to say about the completed film:
"It's a pretty staggering film as spectacle, and
technically brilliant. Exciting, very noisy and warm-
hearted. The battle scenes at the end go on for
five minutes too long, I feel, and some of the dialogue
is excruciating and much of it is lost in noise, but
it remains a vivid experience"
However, it was not an experience he liked to talk about afterwards: >>>>>
"I shrivel up every time someone mentions
STAR WARS to me."
Clark Gable despised making Gone With the Wind, and thought It Happened >>>>> One Night was utter shite.
I saw the latter, in the 1990s(?), and did not care for it.
Savages! Relayer is a fine album!!Uh, raise your hand if you want to hear an actor's opinion on what makes >>>>> a movie entertaining. Anybody? Don't all get up at once.
Yeah, a lot of actors get their own stuff wrong. Musicians too! (There's >>>> a doc on Yes where the bandmembers clearly didn't understand how great >>>> an album "Relayer" was!!)
I had no idea you were a Yes fan. Have you ever listened to Rick Wakeman >>> being interviewed? He is a legendary keyboardist (and yes, I know he
didn't play on Relayer) but also a truly entertaining speaker, full of
stories of his life as a musician, both with Yes and playing with other
people. He's also written two books full of anecdotes about his career.
I haven't laughed so hard in YEARS!
You mean like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zppfjeculUs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4CCMeTlDXI
This one shows some of his skill at the keyboard.
The second of those is an excerpt from the first - or at least the same >interview. Beato may have removed some bits of the longer interview from
his main channel and put it on the second channel. (I've only watched
the full interview once and certainly haven't memorized it.)
It's a fine interview but the books contain a lot of stories from a
colourful life; some of them aren't even music-related. He tells a great >story about meeting some submariners while drinking after a gig and then >being smuggled aboard their (top secret) sub to have a look around,
which had a hilarious sequel. His adventures with home repair are
surprising too. He was a notorious boozer and smoker who went cold
turkey with zero effort after he had some health scares. He seems like a >remarkably down-to-earth and approachable individual despite his fame.
I'd love to spend an afternoon talking to him.
On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 01:35:20 -0400, shawn
<[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 23:43:22 -0400, Rhino
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-03-19 10:53 PM, shawn wrote:
On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 21:58:18 -0400, Rhino
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-03-19 9:36 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 3/19/25 6:14 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
BTR1701 <[email protected]> wrote:
I had no idea you were a Yes fan. Have you ever listened to Rick Wakeman >>>>> being interviewed? He is a legendary keyboardist (and yes, I know he >>>>> didn't play on Relayer) but also a truly entertaining speaker, full of >>>>> stories of his life as a musician, both with Yes and playing with other >>>>> people. He's also written two books full of anecdotes about his career. >>>>> I haven't laughed so hard in YEARS!
You mean like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zppfjeculUs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4CCMeTlDXI
This one shows some of his skill at the keyboard.
The second of those is an excerpt from the first - or at least the same
interview. Beato may have removed some bits of the longer interview from >>> his main channel and put it on the second channel. (I've only watched
the full interview once and certainly haven't memorized it.)
It's a fine interview but the books contain a lot of stories from a
colourful life; some of them aren't even music-related. He tells a great >>> story about meeting some submariners while drinking after a gig and then >>> being smuggled aboard their (top secret) sub to have a look around,
which had a hilarious sequel. His adventures with home repair are
surprising too. He was a notorious boozer and smoker who went cold
turkey with zero effort after he had some health scares. He seems like a >>> remarkably down-to-earth and approachable individual despite his fame.
I'd love to spend an afternoon talking to him.
Ah, you mean his sense of humor like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i34kuOqEXRc
I didn't notice this was there or I would have included it too.
It's their complete induction ceremony into the Rock and Roll Hall of
Fame.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kbcqKkTmko
I've seen this a few times and I'm still amazed at how good they were
at that age.
On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 23:43:22 -0400, Rhino
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-03-19 10:53 PM, shawn wrote:
On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 21:58:18 -0400, Rhino
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-03-19 9:36 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 3/19/25 6:14 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:I finally saw it a year or so back and didn't much care for it either. >>>>
BTR1701 <[email protected]> wrote:
Prior to accepting the role of Obi-wan (Ben) Kenobi, Sir Alec
Guinness wrote
the following to a friend:
I have been offered a movie (20th Cent. Fox) which
I may accept, if they come up with proper money.
London and N. Africa, starting in mid-March. Science
fiction - which gives me pause - but is to be directed >>>>>>> by Paul [sic] Lucas who did AMERICAN GRAFFITI,
which makes me feel I should. Big part. Fairy-tale
rubbish but could be interesting perhaps.
After he arrived on set, he did not change his opinion that the movie >>>>>>> was
"rubbish":
...new rubbish dialogue reaches me every
other day on wadges of pink paper - and none of
it makes my character clear or even bearable. I
just think, thankfully, of the lovely bread, which
will help me keep going until next April even if
YAHOO [a play in which Guinness played satirist
Jonathan Swift] collapses in a week ... I must off
to studio and work with a dwarf (very sweet - and
he has to wash in a bidet) and your fellow countrymen >>>>>>> Mark Hamill and Tennyson (that can't be
right) Ford. Ellison (? - No!) - well, a rangy, languid >>>>>>> young man who is probably intelligent and amusing.
But oh, God, they make me feel ninety - and treat
me as if I was 106. - Oh, Harrison Ford - ever
heard of him?
Dude! You saw American Graffiti directed by Paul Lucas! Ellison Ford had >>>>>> a small role in the movie!
Later on in the filming, Guinness wrote:
"Apart from the money, I regret having embarked
on the film. I like them well enough, but it's not an >>>>>>> acting job, the dialogue - which is lamentable - keeps >>>>>>> being changed and only slightly improved, and I find
myself old and out of touch with the young"
To be fair, everybody hates that the script is never finished.
He did have some nice things to say about the completed film:
"It's a pretty staggering film as spectacle, and
technically brilliant. Exciting, very noisy and warm- >>>>>>> hearted. The battle scenes at the end go on for
five minutes too long, I feel, and some of the dialogue >>>>>>> is excruciating and much of it is lost in noise, but
it remains a vivid experience"
However, it was not an experience he liked to talk about afterwards: >>>>>>
"I shrivel up every time someone mentions
STAR WARS to me."
Clark Gable despised making Gone With the Wind, and thought It Happened >>>>>> One Night was utter shite.
I saw the latter, in the 1990s(?), and did not care for it.
Savages! Relayer is a fine album!!Uh, raise your hand if you want to hear an actor's opinion on what makes >>>>>> a movie entertaining. Anybody? Don't all get up at once.
Yeah, a lot of actors get their own stuff wrong. Musicians too! (There's >>>>> a doc on Yes where the bandmembers clearly didn't understand how great >>>>> an album "Relayer" was!!)
I had no idea you were a Yes fan. Have you ever listened to Rick Wakeman >>>> being interviewed? He is a legendary keyboardist (and yes, I know he
didn't play on Relayer) but also a truly entertaining speaker, full of >>>> stories of his life as a musician, both with Yes and playing with other >>>> people. He's also written two books full of anecdotes about his career. >>>> I haven't laughed so hard in YEARS!
You mean like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zppfjeculUs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4CCMeTlDXI
This one shows some of his skill at the keyboard.
The second of those is an excerpt from the first - or at least the same
interview. Beato may have removed some bits of the longer interview from
his main channel and put it on the second channel. (I've only watched
the full interview once and certainly haven't memorized it.)
It's a fine interview but the books contain a lot of stories from a
colourful life; some of them aren't even music-related. He tells a great
story about meeting some submariners while drinking after a gig and then
being smuggled aboard their (top secret) sub to have a look around,
which had a hilarious sequel. His adventures with home repair are
surprising too. He was a notorious boozer and smoker who went cold
turkey with zero effort after he had some health scares. He seems like a
remarkably down-to-earth and approachable individual despite his fame.
I'd love to spend an afternoon talking to him.
Ah, you mean his sense of humor like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i34kuOqEXRc
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