• [OT] British asylum system is a farce

    From Rhino@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 5 16:28:55 2025
    It seems that the British asylum system is now in the business of
    rewarding criminals by giving them asylum using some of the most
    ludicrous justifications imaginable. Picture a Zimbabwean asylum seeker
    in Britain who is convicted of pedophilia then being allowed to stay in
    Britain rather than deported because he fears being persecuted in
    Zimbabwe if he is sent back there? That kind of judicial ruling is
    apparently increasingly common in Britain, as Leo Kearse describes in
    this video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF1bJeMLX6Q [22 minutes]

    Then there are the adult pedophiles who claim to be children who are
    getting detained in facilities designed to hold only children and
    families. Imagine "punishing" a pedophile by putting him AMONGST
    children! When independent assessors determined that one such individual
    was actually 23, the courts decided that such evidence was no longer admissible!

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    Rhino

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Mar 26 08:44:58 2025
    On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 16:28:55 -0500, Rhino
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Then there are the adult pedophiles who claim to be children who are
    getting detained in facilities designed to hold only children and
    families. Imagine "punishing" a pedophile by putting him AMONGST
    children! When independent assessors determined that one such individual
    was actually 23, the courts decided that such evidence was no longer >admissible!

    Why is that? Was the prosecutor arguing the defendant was getting
    younger?!?

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to The Horny Goat on Wed Mar 26 15:38:29 2025
    On 2025-03-26 11:44 AM, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 16:28:55 -0500, Rhino
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Then there are the adult pedophiles who claim to be children who are
    getting detained in facilities designed to hold only children and
    families. Imagine "punishing" a pedophile by putting him AMONGST
    children! When independent assessors determined that one such individual
    was actually 23, the courts decided that such evidence was no longer
    admissible!

    Why is that? Was the prosecutor arguing the defendant was getting
    younger?!?

    The cited video explained it. In a nutshell, the prosecutor must have
    persuaded the judge that the age of the pedophile couldn't be reliably determined by outside parties so the pedophile needed to be believed
    when he claimed to be under 18. (I don't remember the precise wording of
    the video and I'm inferring a bit as well but it seems like the only
    reasonable theory. If the outside party assessed the pedo as being 23 -
    which they did - I would assume the judge would accept that but, since
    the judge *didn't* accept it, I think we can assume that the prosecutor
    called the credibility of the outside assessment into question.)

    For what it's worth, I remember a somewhat similar thing happening in
    Windsor, Ontario back when Trudeau took in all those Syrian refugees. Apparently, several Syrian families ended up in Windsor claiming that
    the family members accompanying them were under 18 so they were enrolled
    in high school. But there were strong suspicions that these "teenagers"
    were actually well into their 20s, according to a news item I saw. It
    would seem reasonable that either school staff or other students
    initiated these suspicions. I don't know if that was ever proven - or
    how it was proven if it was - so it wouldn't remotely surprise me if
    they were allowed to stay in school and either graduate or drop out.

    If I recall correctly, the program under which the Syrians came to
    Canada was limited to families and their children under 18. Human nature
    being what it is, I can well imagine that families with older children sometimes just claimed that they were younger so that they could stay
    together. I would imagine documentation for these people was scarce at
    best given the ongoing civil war so Global Affairs probably just took
    their words for it with regards to the ages of the "children".

    Of course I could be wrong. Maybe Assad's regime made meticulously
    accurate documentation available to our people and every one of those "children" really was under 18; maybe kids just mature faster in Syria.
    Or maybe someone in Windsor just made up this whole thing out of whole
    cloth in an attempt to make Trudeau look foolish or to mess with
    Syrians. There are always alternate possibilities.

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    Rhino

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