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c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:
Someone needs to knock that cocksucker's teeth out
and maybe have some
fun with his 'wife'.
JD Vance has sparked a furious backlash for
delivering an
anti-immigration speech at the Munich Security
Conference in which he
attacked European leaders and backed those who
voted for Brexit.
He should maybe spend more time fixing America’s
broken immigration
system, instead of criticizing others
How is it possible for people who have been in USA
for 20 years and own a
legal business here for more than a decade can still
be “undecided”
and not be green-carded yet, let alone be citizens
already? What is wrong
with our system?
“The Emanet family has an open case with United
States Citizenship and
Immigration Services (USCIS) and has been waiting
since 2016 for a
decision on their case. USCIS has not decided
whether to approve or deny
their green card application for the past 9 years.
While waiting for
their case to be decided upon, Celal and Emine
Emanet were left without a
status.”
https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/ice-
arrests-immigration-jersey-
kebab-haddon-township-couple-detained/4119940/
The US vice president was accused of “hypocrisy�
�� and his speech
described as “bizarre and dangerous” as he
departed from the usual
defence focus of speeches at the conference to
lash out at the UK and
EU over migration and free speech.
Liberal Democrat foreign affairs spokesman Calum
Miller told The
Independent: “Britain will not take lectures
about political freedoms
from the acolyte of a President who tried to
undermine American
democracy and now praises Putin. The British
people will see straight
through this hypocrisy."
And the Green Party described Mr Vance’s speech
as “bizarre and
dangerous”. Ellie Chowns, the party’s
parliamentary spokesperson on
foreign affairs said: "US vice president JD
Vance's use of the Munich
Security Conference to lambast allies rather than
focus on the real
chaos makers in the world is sadly predictable but
no less bizarre and
dangerous for that. “President Trump's
administration seems
determined to usher in a new world where old
friends are discarded and
new friends made of dangerous autocrats.
“The UK should have no part of that and should
work with others to
protect international frameworks and institutions
that support
co-operation and the rule of law."
Vances's Lies
During his recent visit at the Munich Security
Conference in Germany,
US Vice President JD Vance claimed European
freedom of speech was in
decline. DW's Team Fact check takes a closer look
at some of his
examples and provides context surrounding these
cases.
Claim: The Scottish government has allegedly
warned citizens that
praying at home could be illegal. "The Scottish
government began
distributing letters to citizens whose houses lay
within so-called Safe
Access Zones, warning them that even private
prayer within their own
homes may amount to breaking the law," Vance said.
"Naturally, the
government urged readers to report any fellow
citizens suspected guilty
of thought crime."
DW Fact check: Misleading.
While it is true that Scotland introduced
so-called Safe Access Zones within 200 meters
(about 650 feet) of
abortion
clinics in September 2024 and banned "silent
prayer" and similar
pressure- building activities to keep women from
going through with
abortions, silent prayer at home with no distress
to others is not
included in the ban.
However, the law does stipulate that even
activities that can be seen
or heard within the zone and are "done
intentionally or recklessly" in
a private place within the area (like a house)
between the protected
premises and the boundary of a zone could be an
offense.
It's a common tactic by US anti-abortion
activists, so-called "pro-
lifers," to gather in front of abortion clinics,
handing out fliers,
showing photos of fetuses or using the cover of
prayer to intimidate
women entering the clinics to pressure them into
keeping the baby.
"This is shocking and shameless misinformation
from Vice President JD
Vance," said Gillian Mackay, Member of the
Scottish Parliament on X
, who had introduced the Safe Access Zones bill.
She said that while the letter encouraged people
to report anything
they thought violated the law, the police would
give the same
encouragement for every other law in the country.
"The letter was sent to households to inform them
of what the zones
mean for them. As we discussed in the passage of
the Act, no individual
behavior is criminalized. Silent prayer or praying
in your own home are
not illegal as stated by the VP," she wrote on X.
"This is simply
scaremongering." Pro-life activists standing in
front of an abortion
clinic in Plainfield, New JerseyPro-life activists
standing in front of
an abortion clinic in Plainfield, New Jersey
Pro-life activists gather in front of abortion
clinics like this one in
New Jersey to put pressure on women
Image: picture alliance/ZUMA Press
Claim: A British man was charged for silently
praying in front of an
abortion clinic on behalf of an unborn son he and
his former girlfriend
had aborted, Vance said. "A little over two years
ago, the British
government charged Adam Smith-Connor, a 51-year-
old physiotherapist and
an army veteran, with the heinous crime of
standing 50 meters from an
abortion clinic and silently praying for three
minutes." He was found
guilty of breaking the "government's new buffer
zones law" and was
sentenced to pay "thousands of pounds in legal
costs to the
prosecution."
DW Fact check: Misleading.
Adam Smith-Connor was convicted of breaching a
safe zone by praying
outside an abortion clinic in Bournemouth in
November 2022, after
refusing repeated requests to leave the area. He
was handed a 100-pound
fine which he didn't pay, triggering a court case.
Ultimately, he was
given a two-year conditional discharge and ordered
to pay prosecution
costs to the tune of 9,000 pounds ($11,300, €
10,800).
The Public Spaces Protection Order
was introduced outside the Bournemouth clinic
in October 2022 to create buffer zones around
abortion clinics to stop
women from being harassed or having to pass by
vigils.
The son Smith-Connor said he was praying for was
aborted over 20 years
ago.
Smith-Connor is receiving legal support from an
American conservative
Christian legal advocacy group
that has been labeled a "hate group." He has
appealed the decision.
People take part in a protest outside the Scottish
Parliament in
Edinburgh as new laws come into force across
Scotland, preventing
anti-abortion protesters from gathering within 200
metres of facilities
where abortions are carried out. People take part
in a protest outside
the Scottish Parliament in Edinburgh as new laws
come into force across
Scotland, preventing anti-abortion protesters from
gathering within 200
metres of facilities where abortions are carried
out.
Activists protesting for rights to show up at
abortion clinics - but
what about the rights of the women to not get
harassed?
Image: Andrew Milligan/PA
Claim: "I look to Brussels, where EU commissars
warn citizens that they
intend to shut down social media during times of
civil unrest the
moment they spot what they've judged to be, quote,
'hateful content,'"
Vance said in Munich.
DW Fact check: Misleading.
After quick research around JD Vance's claim on EU
commissars warning
about shutting down social media during times of
civil unrest, we found
different media reports
referring to the topic back in July 2023. They
cited former European
Commissioner for Internal Market, Thierry Breton,
referring to the
possibility of a shutdown under EU's content
moderation law only "in
extreme cases" and following due process if they
didn't crack down
problematic content during riots. In his
statements, Breton cites and
refers to the Digital Services Act
(DSA), adopted in 2022 and fully applicable since
2024.
Breton's comments were a response to French
President Emmanuel Macron
raising the possibility of blocking social media
platforms during civil
unrest in the country after the police killing of
17-year-old Nahel
Mezouk in a Paris suburb. Article 19
, a British human rights organization, and other
organizations raised
concerns over Breton's comments.
Facebook, TikTok, Twitter Instagram and Youtube on
a
smartphoneFacebook, TikTok, Twitter Instagram and
Youtube on a
smartphone Can the EU simply shut down social
media platforms?
Image: Dado Ruvic/REUTERS
But does the DSA actually allow EU Member States
to shut down social
media during times of unrest like JD Vance claims?
The DSA regulates online intermediaries
and platforms, such as social networks, content-
sharing platforms and
app
stores and addresses issues like illegal content,
transparent
advertising and disinformation. According to the
European Commission,
the main goal of the act is "to prevent illegal
and harmful activities
online and the spread of disinformation."
In its fourth chapter, under Article 51, the DSA
establishes the powers
of the Digital Services Coordinator, the authority
designated by an EU
Member State to supervise providers of
intermediary services and
enforce their regulation.
The act states in Article 51, Section 3b that if
Digital Services
Coordinators consider that an infringement that is
causing serious harm
and entails a criminal offense involving a threat
to the life or safety
of persons has not been remedied, they can request
a competent judicial
authority to order the temporary restriction of
access of recipients to
the service concerned by the infringement. If this
is not technically
feasible, the provider's online interface on which
the infringement
takes place can be restricted.
This measure, however, is the last of a series of
mechanisms against
platforms that don't comply with the EU legal
framework. That means
that for this figure to be able to restrict the
use of a social media
platform, all other measures outlined in the DSA
must have been
exhausted, including allowing the management of
the platform to adopt a
plan of action to terminate the infringement
(Section 3a of Article
51).
And how does this affect social media platforms?
The DSA dictates
specific obligations to what it considers "very
large online
platforms," meaning platforms and search engines
reaching 45 million or
more consumers in Europe. The list
of these online platforms include services by
providers like Google,
Meta,
TikTok, Twitter International Unlimited Company
(X.com), among others.
In that regard, the claim that the EU commissars
can shut down social
media if they spot what they've judged to be
"hateful content" is
misleading.
He likes beating his wife.
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