• tRUMP Once Owned A Pro Football Team

    From John Smyth@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 10 00:51:05 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.atheism, alt.home.repair

    He is a genius, a prophet who knows everything.

    The final game in United States Football League history, a 28-24 victory
    by the Baltimore Stars over the Oakland Invaders, was played 30 years ago
    on July 14. The 1985 USFL championship game was held at Giants Stadium,
    home of the New Jersey Generals, who were owned by future presidential candidate Donald Trump. And it was Trump's strategy for the league that
    is widely considered to have led to its demise.
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    Since the USFL folded after the 1985 season, Trump has tried to get back
    into sports with mixed results. He held several big fights at the Trump
    Plaza in Atlantic City before it shut down. He also operates 17 golf
    courses around the world, but the PGA of America won't hold its Grand
    Slam of Golf at Trump National in Los Angeles after Trump's recent controversial comments about Mexican immigrants. The golf club in Puerto
    Rico bearing his name filed for bankruptcy this week. Last year, Trump
    tried to get back into football by buying the Buffalo Bills, but Sabres
    owner Terry Pegula landed the franchise for $1.4 billion. In fact, one
    reason Trump bought a USFL team to begin with was that he saw it as an
    opening into the NFL by way of a merger.

    Let's take this anniversary as a chance to look back at five memorable
    aspects of Trump's short tenure as a pro sports owner.
    1. Trump is widely blamed for the demise of the USFL

    Soon after Trump bought the Generals after the USFL's inaugural season,
    which was played in the spring of 1983, he started pushing his fellow
    owners to move the league's games to the fall and go head-to-head with
    the NFL. "If God wanted football in the spring," Trump once said, "he
    wouldn't have created baseball." After the league's third season, the
    owners agreed to move to a fall schedule in 1986.

    "I think it was a big mistake," said Dr. Ted Diethrich, one of the
    league's original owners. "When that decision was made, the course for
    this was charted, and it was going to be a wreck."

    Several teams were having financial difficulties at the time, and the
    league lacked the fall TV contracts that supported the NFL. The USFL
    instead tried to take on the NFL in the courts by filing an antitrust
    lawsuit. The hope was that the USFL would either merge with the
    established league or win a sizable settlement. The merger never
    happened, and despite winning the lawsuit, the USFL was ultimately
    awarded only $3 for its troubles. The league soon folded, and Trump's
    push for the fall schedule and a lawsuit against the NFL is generally
    cited as the main reason.
    2. The Generals were pretty good under Trump

    Trump will never be remembered as a great owner. It's hard to be
    associated with helping to destroy a league and be considered a good
    owner at the same time. That said, the Generals were better during
    Trump's two seasons as owner than they were in their inaugural season in
    1983. Oklahoma oil magnate J. Walter Duncan was the team's first owner,
    and he brought former Oklahoma and New England Patriots coach Chuck
    Fairbanks in as the head coach, general manager and minority partner. The Generals went 6-12 in their first season.

    Duncan didn't like being an absentee owner living in Oklahoma and sold
    the team to Trump, who was 37 years old when he bought the Generals.
    Trump fired Fairbanks and brought in former New York Jets coach Walt
    Michaels. Trump also made a splash by signing several former NFL players, including quarterback Brian Sipe, safety Gary Barbaro and linebacker Jim LeClair. The Generals went 14-4 in their second season and 11-7 in their
    third and final season. Both seasons under Trump ended with first-round
    playoff losses.
    3. Trump almost lured Don Shula away from the Dolphins

    After buying the Generals, Trump made a serious push to hire legendary
    coach Don Shula away from the Miami Dolphins. The deal, according to
    Trump, hinged on Shula's demand for an apartment in Trump Tower, which
    Trump didn't want to do despite agreeing to pay the coach at least $1
    million per season over five years.

    Trump, however, overplayed his hand when he publicly declared he was in negotiations with Shula and mentioned his demands during a clip that
    aired during halftime of a Dolphins game in October 1983. The comments
    and subsequent questions turned into a distraction, and Shula pulled his
    name from consideration.
    4. The USFL's Dream Team never materialized
    Trump, left, and Steve Ross announce the agreement to merge the Houston Gamblers with the Generals. The USFL would fold before the combined team
    could take the field. AP Photo/Marty Lederhandler

    After the 1985 season, the Generals merged with the Houston Gamblers to
    create a USFL "Dream Team" that would have included future NFL standouts
    Jim Kelly at quarterback, Herschel Walker at running back and Ricky
    Sanders are receiver.

    "It's probably the best team in football," Trump said at the time of the merger. No one would ever find out if that was true, however, as the
    league folded before the 1986 season before it could carry out the plan
    to compete directly with the NFL in the fall.
    5. Trump did not sign Herschel Walker

    The USFL was around for only three seasons, but it was able to sign three Heisman Trophy winners during that time, with two of them -- Walker and
    Doug Flutie -- coming to New Jersey (Mike Rozier was the third).

    However, Walker's famous three-year, $4.2 million deal, the biggest
    contract in pro football history at the time, wasn't Trump's doing. It
    was Duncan who signed Walker out of Georgia before the USFL's inaugural
    season. Regardless of how the league turned out, Walker's signing had to
    be considered a success. In three USFL seasons, he rushed for 5,562
    yards, including a pro record 2,411 in 1985.

    After Flutie won the 1984 Heisman at Boston College, Trump signed him to replace Sipe. Flutie's only USFL campaign ended early after he suffered a broken collarbone in Game 15 and missed the Generals' final three regular-season games and their 20-17 playoff loss to Baltimore.

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  • From Gronk@21:1/5 to John Smyth on Sun Feb 9 22:50:42 2025
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    John Smyth wrote:

    Since the USFL folded after the 1985 season, Trump has tried to get back
    into sports with mixed results. He held several big fights at the Trump
    Plaza in Atlantic City before it shut down. He also operates 17 golf
    courses around the world, but the PGA of America won't hold its Grand
    Slam of Golf at Trump National in Los Angeles after Trump's recent controversial comments about Mexican immigrants. The golf club in Puerto
    Rico bearing his name filed for bankruptcy this week. Last year, Trump
    tried to get back into football by buying the Buffalo Bills, but Sabres
    owner Terry Pegula landed the franchise for $1.4 billion. In fact, one
    reason Trump bought a USFL team to begin with was that he saw it as an opening into the NFL by way of a merger.

    1. Trump is widely blamed for the demise of the USFL

    Soon after Trump bought the Generals after the USFL's inaugural season,
    which was played in the spring of 1983, he started pushing his fellow
    owners to move the league's games to the fall and go head-to-head with
    the NFL. "If God wanted football in the spring," Trump once said, "he wouldn't have created baseball." After the league's third season, the
    owners agreed to move to a fall schedule in 1986.

    "I think it was a big mistake," said Dr. Ted Diethrich, one of the
    league's original owners. "When that decision was made, the course for
    this was charted, and it was going to be a wreck."

    2. The Generals were pretty good under Trump

    Trump will never be remembered as a great owner. It's hard to be

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 10 16:23:21 2025
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    During the Anthem, where was Melania? Is Ivanka his new consort?

    incest is rampant in the Trump family. that's why they're all mental defectives.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 10 20:22:25 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.atheism, alt.home.repair

    He is a genius, a prophet who knows everything.

    The final game in United States Football League history, a 28-24 victory
    by the Baltimore Stars over the Oakland Invaders, was played 30 years
    ago
    on July 14. The 1985 USFL championship game was held at Giants Stadium,
    home of the New Jersey Generals, who were owned by future presidential >candidate Donald Trump. And it was Trump's strategy for the league that
    is widely considered to have led to its demise.
    Editor's Picks

    Trump sounds off about Women's British Open
    10yBob Harig
    NASCAR banquet won't return to Trump resort
    10yBob Pockrass

    Since the USFL folded after the 1985 season, Trump has tried to get back
    into sports with mixed results. He held several big fights at the Trump
    Plaza in Atlantic City before it shut down. He also operates 17 golf
    courses around the world, but the PGA of America won't hold its Grand
    Slam of Golf at Trump National in Los Angeles after Trump's recent >controversial comments about Mexican immigrants. The golf club in Puerto
    Rico bearing his name filed for bankruptcy this week. Last year, Trump
    tried to get back into football by buying the Buffalo Bills, but Sabres
    owner Terry Pegula landed the franchise for $1.4 billion. In fact, one
    reason Trump bought a USFL team to begin with was that he saw it as an >opening into the NFL by way of a merger.

    Let's take this anniversary as a chance to look back at five memorable >aspects of Trump's short tenure as a pro sports owner.
    1. Trump is widely blamed for the demise of the USFL

    Soon after Trump bought the Generals after the USFL's inaugural season,
    which was played in the spring of 1983, he started pushing his fellow
    owners to move the league's games to the fall and go head-to-head with
    the NFL. "If God wanted football in the spring," Trump once said, "he >wouldn't have created baseball." After the league's third season, the
    owners agreed to move to a fall schedule in 1986.

    "I think it was a big mistake," said Dr. Ted Diethrich, one of the
    league's original owners. "When that decision was made, the course for
    this was charted, and it was going to be a wreck."

    Several teams were having financial difficulties at the time, and the
    league lacked the fall TV contracts that supported the NFL. The USFL
    instead tried to take on the NFL in the courts by filing an antitrust >lawsuit. The hope was that the USFL would either merge with the
    established league or win a sizable settlement. The merger never
    happened, and despite winning the lawsuit, the USFL was ultimately
    awarded only $3 for its troubles. The league soon folded, and Trump's
    push for the fall schedule and a lawsuit against the NFL is generally
    cited as the main reason.
    2. The Generals were pretty good under Trump

    Trump will never be remembered as a great owner. It's hard to be
    associated with helping to destroy a league and be considered a good
    owner at the same time. That said, the Generals were better during
    Trump's two seasons as owner than they were in their inaugural season in >1983. Oklahoma oil magnate J. Walter Duncan was the team's first owner,
    and he brought former Oklahoma and New England Patriots coach Chuck
    Fairbanks in as the head coach, general manager and minority partner.
    The
    Generals went 6-12 in their first season.

    Duncan didn't like being an absentee owner living in Oklahoma and sold
    the team to Trump, who was 37 years old when he bought the Generals.
    Trump fired Fairbanks and brought in former New York Jets coach Walt >Michaels. Trump also made a splash by signing several former NFL
    players,
    including quarterback Brian Sipe, safety Gary Barbaro and linebacker Jim >LeClair. The Generals went 14-4 in their second season and 11-7 in their >third and final season. Both seasons under Trump ended with first-round >playoff losses.
    3. Trump almost lured Don Shula away from the Dolphins

    After buying the Generals, Trump made a serious push to hire legendary
    coach Don Shula away from the Miami Dolphins. The deal, according to
    Trump, hinged on Shula's demand for an apartment in Trump Tower, which
    Trump didn't want to do despite agreeing to pay the coach at least $1
    million per season over five years.

    Trump, however, overplayed his hand when he publicly declared he was in >negotiations with Shula and mentioned his demands during a clip that
    aired during halftime of a Dolphins game in October 1983. The comments
    and subsequent questions turned into a distraction, and Shula pulled his
    name from consideration.
    4. The USFL's Dream Team never materialized
    Trump, left, and Steve Ross announce the agreement to merge the Houston >Gamblers with the Generals. The USFL would fold before the combined team >could take the field. AP Photo/Marty Lederhandler

    After the 1985 season, the Generals merged with the Houston Gamblers to >create a USFL "Dream Team" that would have included future NFL standouts
    Jim Kelly at quarterback, Herschel Walker at running back and Ricky
    Sanders are receiver.

    "It's probably the best team in football," Trump said at the time of the >merger. No one would ever find out if that was true, however, as the
    league folded before the 1986 season before it could carry out the plan
    to compete directly with the NFL in the fall.
    5. Trump did not sign Herschel Walker

    The USFL was around for only three seasons, but it was able to sign
    three
    Heisman Trophy winners during that time, with two of them -- Walker and
    Doug Flutie -- coming to New Jersey (Mike Rozier was the third).

    However, Walker's famous three-year, $4.2 million deal, the biggest
    contract in pro football history at the time, wasn't Trump's doing. It
    was Duncan who signed Walker out of Georgia before the USFL's inaugural >season. Regardless of how the league turned out, Walker's signing had to
    be considered a success. In three USFL seasons, he rushed for 5,562
    yards, including a pro record 2,411 in 1985.

    After Flutie won the 1984 Heisman at Boston College, Trump signed him to >replace Sipe. Flutie's only USFL campaign ended early after he suffered
    a
    broken collarbone in Game 15 and missed the Generals' final three >regular-season games and their 20-17 playoff loss to Baltimore.



    Trump sucked my cock in 1994. He's got a tiny little mouth which fits
    my fat cock great.

    Did his daddy teach him to swallow?

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  • From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to pothead on Mon Feb 10 16:43:30 2025
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.home.repair

    pothead wrote:
    He is a genius, a prophet who knows everything.

    The final game in United States Football League history, a 28-24 victory
    by the Baltimore Stars over the Oakland Invaders, was played 30 years
    ago
    on July 14. The 1985 USFL championship game was held at Giants Stadium,
    home of the New Jersey Generals, who were owned by future presidential
    candidate Donald Trump. And it was Trump's strategy for the league that
    is widely considered to have led to its demise.
    Editor's Picks

    Trump sounds off about Women's British Open
    10yBob Harig
    NASCAR banquet won't return to Trump resort
    10yBob Pockrass

    Since the USFL folded after the 1985 season, Trump has tried to get back
    into sports with mixed results. He held several big fights at the Trump
    Plaza in Atlantic City before it shut down. He also operates 17 golf
    courses around the world, but the PGA of America won't hold its Grand
    Slam of Golf at Trump National in Los Angeles after Trump's recent
    controversial comments about Mexican immigrants. The golf club in Puerto
    Rico bearing his name filed for bankruptcy this week. Last year, Trump
    tried to get back into football by buying the Buffalo Bills, but Sabres
    owner Terry Pegula landed the franchise for $1.4 billion. In fact, one
    reason Trump bought a USFL team to begin with was that he saw it as an
    opening into the NFL by way of a merger.

    Let's take this anniversary as a chance to look back at five memorable
    aspects of Trump's short tenure as a pro sports owner.
    1. Trump is widely blamed for the demise of the USFL

    Soon after Trump bought the Generals after the USFL's inaugural season,
    which was played in the spring of 1983, he started pushing his fellow
    owners to move the league's games to the fall and go head-to-head with
    the NFL. "If God wanted football in the spring," Trump once said, "he
    wouldn't have created baseball." After the league's third season, the
    owners agreed to move to a fall schedule in 1986.

    "I think it was a big mistake," said Dr. Ted Diethrich, one of the
    league's original owners. "When that decision was made, the course for
    this was charted, and it was going to be a wreck."

    Several teams were having financial difficulties at the time, and the
    league lacked the fall TV contracts that supported the NFL. The USFL
    instead tried to take on the NFL in the courts by filing an antitrust
    lawsuit. The hope was that the USFL would either merge with the
    established league or win a sizable settlement. The merger never
    happened, and despite winning the lawsuit, the USFL was ultimately
    awarded only $3 for its troubles. The league soon folded, and Trump's
    push for the fall schedule and a lawsuit against the NFL is generally
    cited as the main reason.
    2. The Generals were pretty good under Trump

    Trump will never be remembered as a great owner. It's hard to be
    associated with helping to destroy a league and be considered a good
    owner at the same time. That said, the Generals were better during
    Trump's two seasons as owner than they were in their inaugural season in
    1983. Oklahoma oil magnate J. Walter Duncan was the team's first owner,
    and he brought former Oklahoma and New England Patriots coach Chuck
    Fairbanks in as the head coach, general manager and minority partner.
    The
    Generals went 6-12 in their first season.

    Duncan didn't like being an absentee owner living in Oklahoma and sold
    the team to Trump, who was 37 years old when he bought the Generals.
    Trump fired Fairbanks and brought in former New York Jets coach Walt
    Michaels. Trump also made a splash by signing several former NFL
    players,
    including quarterback Brian Sipe, safety Gary Barbaro and linebacker Jim
    LeClair. The Generals went 14-4 in their second season and 11-7 in their
    third and final season. Both seasons under Trump ended with first-round
    playoff losses.
    3. Trump almost lured Don Shula away from the Dolphins

    After buying the Generals, Trump made a serious push to hire legendary
    coach Don Shula away from the Miami Dolphins. The deal, according to
    Trump, hinged on Shula's demand for an apartment in Trump Tower, which
    Trump didn't want to do despite agreeing to pay the coach at least $1
    million per season over five years.

    Trump, however, overplayed his hand when he publicly declared he was in
    negotiations with Shula and mentioned his demands during a clip that
    aired during halftime of a Dolphins game in October 1983. The comments
    and subsequent questions turned into a distraction, and Shula pulled his
    name from consideration.
    4. The USFL's Dream Team never materialized
    Trump, left, and Steve Ross announce the agreement to merge the Houston
    Gamblers with the Generals. The USFL would fold before the combined team
    could take the field. AP Photo/Marty Lederhandler

    After the 1985 season, the Generals merged with the Houston Gamblers to
    create a USFL "Dream Team" that would have included future NFL standouts
    Jim Kelly at quarterback, Herschel Walker at running back and Ricky
    Sanders are receiver.

    "It's probably the best team in football," Trump said at the time of the
    merger. No one would ever find out if that was true, however, as the
    league folded before the 1986 season before it could carry out the plan
    to compete directly with the NFL in the fall.
    5. Trump did not sign Herschel Walker

    The USFL was around for only three seasons, but it was able to sign
    three
    Heisman Trophy winners during that time, with two of them -- Walker and
    Doug Flutie -- coming to New Jersey (Mike Rozier was the third).

    However, Walker's famous three-year, $4.2 million deal, the biggest
    contract in pro football history at the time, wasn't Trump's doing. It
    was Duncan who signed Walker out of Georgia before the USFL's inaugural
    season. Regardless of how the league turned out, Walker's signing had to
    be considered a success. In three USFL seasons, he rushed for 5,562
    yards, including a pro record 2,411 in 1985.

    After Flutie won the 1984 Heisman at Boston College, Trump signed him to
    replace Sipe. Flutie's only USFL campaign ended early after he suffered
    a
    broken collarbone in Game 15 and missed the Generals' final three
    regular-season games and their 20-17 playoff loss to Baltimore.



    Trump sucked my cock in 1994. He's got a tiny little mouth which fits
    my fat cock great.


    You shemales are hawt!

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