• Good News on the 2A Front

    From BTR1701@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 8 04:02:39 2025
    From the White House:

    Section 1. Purpose.

    The 2nd Amendment is an indispensable safeguard of security and liberty. It
    has preserved the right of the American people to protect ourselves, our families, and our freedoms since the founding of our great Nation. Because it is foundational to maintaining all other rights held by Americans, the right
    to keep and bear arms must not be infringed.

    Section 2. Plan of Action

    (a) Within 30 days of the date of this order, the Attorney General shall examine all orders, regulations, guidance, plans, international agreements,
    and other actions of executive departments and agencies to assess any ongoing infringements of the 2nd Amendment rights of our citizens and present a proposed plan of action to the President, through the Domestic Policy Advisor, to protect the 2nd Amendment rights of all Americans.

    (b) In developing such proposed plan of action, the Attorney General shall review, at a minimum:

    (i) All Presidential and agencies' actions from January 2021 through January 2025 that purport to promote safety but may have impinged on the 2nd Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens;

    (ii) Rules promulgated by the Department of Justice, including the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, from January 2021 through January 2025 pertaining to firearms and/or federal firearms licensees;

    (iii) Agencies' plans, orders, and actions regarding so-called "enhanced regulatory enforcement policy" pertaining to firearms and/or federal firearms licensees;

    (iv) Reports and related documents issued by the White House Office of Gun Violence Prevention;

    (v) The positions taken by the United States in any and all ongoing and potential litigation that affects or could affect the ability of Americans to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights;

    (vi) Agencies' classifications of firearms and ammunition; and

    (vii) The processing of applications to make, manufacture, transfer, or export firearms.


    Plus a federal judge in Mississippi just ruled that the federal ban on full-auto machine guns is unconstitutional.

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 8 08:51:51 2025
    On 2025-02-07 11:02 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    From the White House:

    Section 1. Purpose.

    The 2nd Amendment is an indispensable safeguard of security and liberty. It has preserved the right of the American people to protect ourselves, our families, and our freedoms since the founding of our great Nation. Because it is foundational to maintaining all other rights held by Americans, the right to keep and bear arms must not be infringed.

    Section 2. Plan of Action

    (a) Within 30 days of the date of this order, the Attorney General shall examine all orders, regulations, guidance, plans, international agreements, and other actions of executive departments and agencies to assess any ongoing infringements of the 2nd Amendment rights of our citizens and present a proposed plan of action to the President, through the Domestic Policy Advisor,
    to protect the 2nd Amendment rights of all Americans.

    (b) In developing such proposed plan of action, the Attorney General shall review, at a minimum:

    (i) All Presidential and agencies' actions from January 2021 through January 2025 that purport to promote safety but may have impinged on the 2nd Amendment
    rights of law-abiding citizens;

    (ii) Rules promulgated by the Department of Justice, including the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, from January 2021 through January 2025 pertaining to firearms and/or federal firearms licensees;

    (iii) Agencies' plans, orders, and actions regarding so-called "enhanced regulatory enforcement policy" pertaining to firearms and/or federal firearms licensees;

    (iv) Reports and related documents issued by the White House Office of Gun Violence Prevention;

    (v) The positions taken by the United States in any and all ongoing and potential litigation that affects or could affect the ability of Americans to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights;

    (vi) Agencies' classifications of firearms and ammunition; and

    (vii) The processing of applications to make, manufacture, transfer, or export
    firearms.

    Wow! I'll bet THAT is going to be controversial at the very least! It
    will surely cause many, many meltdowns among those who are convinced
    that gun laws are keeping them safe.

    Plus a federal judge in Mississippi just ruled that the federal ban on full-auto machine guns is unconstitutional.


    In normal circumstances, I'd fully expect to see the DOJ appeal that
    all the way to the Supremes if necessary. But these are NOT normal
    times: Trump is doing a major reset of pretty much everything the
    federal government does. The federal judge in Mississippi may have made
    this ruling to curry favour with Trump.

    Does Trump have the power to repeal all the current regulations
    unilaterally and permanently? Or is he just going to keep writing
    executive orders that could be reversed the next time the Dems hold the presidency?

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 8 19:16:31 2025
    On Feb 8, 2025 at 5:51:51 AM PST, "Rhino" <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-02-07 11:02 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

    From the White House:

    Section 1. Purpose.

    The 2nd Amendment is an indispensable safeguard of security and liberty. It >> has preserved the right of the American people to protect ourselves, our
    families, and our freedoms since the founding of our great Nation. Because >> it
    is foundational to maintaining all other rights held by Americans, the right
    to keep and bear arms must not be infringed.

    Section 2. Plan of Action

    (a) Within 30 days of the date of this order, the Attorney General shall
    examine all orders, regulations, guidance, plans, international agreements, >> and other actions of executive departments and agencies to assess any
    ongoing
    infringements of the 2nd Amendment rights of our citizens and present a
    proposed plan of action to the President, through the Domestic Policy
    Advisor,
    to protect the 2nd Amendment rights of all Americans.

    (b) In developing such proposed plan of action, the Attorney General shall >> review, at a minimum:

    (i) All Presidential and agencies' actions from January 2021 through January
    2025 that purport to promote safety but may have impinged on the 2nd
    Amendment
    rights of law-abiding citizens;

    (ii) Rules promulgated by the Department of Justice, including the Bureau of
    Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, from January 2021 through
    January
    2025 pertaining to firearms and/or federal firearms licensees;

    (iii) Agencies' plans, orders, and actions regarding so-called "enhanced
    regulatory enforcement policy" pertaining to firearms and/or federal
    firearms
    licensees;

    (iv) Reports and related documents issued by the White House Office of Gun >> Violence Prevention;

    (v) The positions taken by the United States in any and all ongoing and
    potential litigation that affects or could affect the ability of Americans >> to
    exercise their 2nd Amendment rights;

    (vi) Agencies' classifications of firearms and ammunition; and

    (vii) The processing of applications to make, manufacture, transfer, or
    export
    firearms.

    Wow! I'll bet THAT is going to be controversial at the very least! It
    will surely cause many, many meltdowns among those who are convinced
    that gun laws are keeping them safe.

    Yes, I hope Newsom's stroke will be a funny one.

    Plus a federal judge in Mississippi just ruled that the federal ban on
    full-auto machine guns is unconstitutional.

    In normal circumstances, I'd fully expect to see the DOJ appeal that
    all the way to the Supremes if necessary. But these are NOT normal
    times: Trump is doing a major reset of pretty much everything the
    federal government does. The federal judge in Mississippi may have made
    this ruling to curry favour with Trump.

    Now we have machine guns. Ho-ho-ho

    Does Trump have the power to repeal all the current regulations
    unilaterally and permanently? Or is he just going to keep writing
    executive orders that could be reversed the next time the Dems hold the presidency?

    He can countermand regulations from agencies under the Executive Branch but
    for anything statutory, only Congress or the courts can reverse those.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Feb 9 02:43:10 2025
    BTR1701 <[email protected]> wrote:

    From the White House:

    Section 1. Purpose.

    The 2nd Amendment is an indispensable safeguard of security and liberty. It >has preserved the right of the American people to protect ourselves, our >families, and our freedoms since the founding of our great Nation. Because it >is foundational to maintaining all other rights held by Americans, the right >to keep and bear arms must not be infringed.

    Section 2. Plan of Action

    (a) Within 30 days of the date of this order, the Attorney General shall >examine all orders, regulations, guidance, plans, international agreements, >and other actions of executive departments and agencies to assess any ongoing >infringements of the 2nd Amendment rights of our citizens and present a >proposed plan of action to the President, through the Domestic Policy Advisor, >to protect the 2nd Amendment rights of all Americans.

    (b) In developing such proposed plan of action, the Attorney General shall >review, at a minimum:

    (i) All Presidential and agencies' actions from January 2021 through January >2025 that purport to promote safety but may have impinged on the 2nd Amendment >rights of law-abiding citizens;

    Glad the concern for the rights of LAW-ABIDING citizens is mentioned in paragraph 4. There are people who want to restore a convicted felon's
    gun rights; glad Trump doesn't.

    (vii) The processing of applications to make, manufacture, transfer, or export >firearms.

    Plus a federal judge in Mississippi just ruled that the federal ban on >full-auto machine guns is unconstitutional.

    So nice he overrode a Supreme Court decision. Restore Al Capone's
    Tommygun rights!

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  • From Ian J. Ball@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Sat Feb 8 19:40:24 2025
    On 2/8/25 6:43 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    BTR1701 <[email protected]> wrote:

    From the White House:

    Section 1. Purpose.

    The 2nd Amendment is an indispensable safeguard of security and liberty. It >> has preserved the right of the American people to protect ourselves, our
    families, and our freedoms since the founding of our great Nation. Because it
    is foundational to maintaining all other rights held by Americans, the right >> to keep and bear arms must not be infringed.

    Section 2. Plan of Action

    (a) Within 30 days of the date of this order, the Attorney General shall
    examine all orders, regulations, guidance, plans, international agreements, >> and other actions of executive departments and agencies to assess any ongoing
    infringements of the 2nd Amendment rights of our citizens and present a
    proposed plan of action to the President, through the Domestic Policy Advisor,
    to protect the 2nd Amendment rights of all Americans.

    (b) In developing such proposed plan of action, the Attorney General shall >> review, at a minimum:

    (i) All Presidential and agencies' actions from January 2021 through January >> 2025 that purport to promote safety but may have impinged on the 2nd Amendment
    rights of law-abiding citizens;

    Glad the concern for the rights of LAW-ABIDING citizens is mentioned in paragraph 4. There are people who want to restore a convicted felon's
    gun rights; glad Trump doesn't.

    (vii) The processing of applications to make, manufacture, transfer, or export
    firearms.

    Plus a federal judge in Mississippi just ruled that the federal ban on
    full-auto machine guns is unconstitutional.

    So nice he overrode a Supreme Court decision. Restore Al Capone's
    Tommygun rights!

    You don't need to worry about guns when there's a killer asteroid
    heading for us all!!1! :p

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to Ian J. Ball on Sun Feb 9 05:07:50 2025
    On Feb 8, 2025 at 7:40:24 PM PST, ""Ian J. Ball"" <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On 2/8/25 6:43 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    BTR1701 <[email protected]> wrote:

    From the White House:

    Section 1. Purpose.

    The 2nd Amendment is an indispensable safeguard of security and liberty. It
    has preserved the right of the American people to protect ourselves, our >>> families, and our freedoms since the founding of our great Nation. Because >>> it
    is foundational to maintaining all other rights held by Americans, the right
    to keep and bear arms must not be infringed.

    Section 2. Plan of Action

    (a) Within 30 days of the date of this order, the Attorney General shall >>> examine all orders, regulations, guidance, plans, international agreements,
    and other actions of executive departments and agencies to assess any
    ongoing
    infringements of the 2nd Amendment rights of our citizens and present a >>> proposed plan of action to the President, through the Domestic Policy
    Advisor,
    to protect the 2nd Amendment rights of all Americans.

    (b) In developing such proposed plan of action, the Attorney General shall >>> review, at a minimum:

    (i) All Presidential and agencies' actions from January 2021 through January
    2025 that purport to promote safety but may have impinged on the 2nd
    Amendment
    rights of law-abiding citizens;

    Glad the concern for the rights of LAW-ABIDING citizens is mentioned in
    paragraph 4. There are people who want to restore a convicted felon's
    gun rights; glad Trump doesn't.

    (vii) The processing of applications to make, manufacture, transfer, or >>> export
    firearms.

    Plus a federal judge in Mississippi just ruled that the federal ban on
    full-auto machine guns is unconstitutional.

    So nice he overrode a Supreme Court decision. Restore Al Capone's
    Tommygun rights!

    You don't need to worry about guns when there's a killer asteroid
    heading for us all!!1! :p

    Finally! What the hell took it so long? I've been rooting for it for years.

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Feb 9 04:30:43 2025
    In article <vo94nu$aiq4$[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
    BTR1701 <[email protected]> wrote:

    From the White House:

    Section 1. Purpose.

    The 2nd Amendment is an indispensable safeguard of security and liberty. It >>has preserved the right of the American people to protect ourselves, our >>families, and our freedoms since the founding of our great Nation. Because >>it is foundational to maintaining all other rights held by Americans, the >>right to keep and bear arms must not be infringed.

    Section 2. Plan of Action

    (a) Within 30 days of the date of this order, the Attorney General shall >>examine all orders, regulations, guidance, plans, international agreements, >>and other actions of executive departments and agencies to assess any >>ongoing infringements of the 2nd Amendment rights of our citizens and >>present a proposed plan of action to the President, through the Domestic >>Policy Advisor, to protect the 2nd Amendment rights of all Americans.

    (b) In developing such proposed plan of action, the Attorney General shall >>review, at a minimum:

    (i) All Presidential and agencies' actions from January 2021 through >>January 2025 that purport to promote safety but may have impinged on the >>2nd Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens;

    Glad the concern for the rights of LAW-ABIDING citizens is mentioned in >paragraph 4. There are people who want to restore a convicted felon's
    gun rights; glad Trump doesn't.

    (vii) The processing of applications to make, manufacture, transfer, or >>export firearms.

    Plus a federal judge in Mississippi just ruled that the federal ban on >>full-auto machine guns is unconstitutional.

    So nice he overrode a Supreme Court decision. Restore Al Capone's
    Tommygun rights!

    Tommyguns aren't illegal.

    [Kerman's incorrect formatting fixed.]

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Feb 9 04:30:44 2025
    In article <vo9d75$fh66$[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
    "Ian J. Ball"" <[email protected]d> wrote:

    You don't need to worry about guns when there's a killer asteroid
    heading for us all!!1! :p

    Finally! What the hell took it so long? I've been rooting for it for years.

    It only has a 2% chance of striking Earth.

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Sun Feb 9 10:40:37 2025
    Ubiquitous <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <vo9d75$fh66$[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
    "Ian J. Ball"" <[email protected]d> wrote:

    You don't need to worry about guns when there's a killer asteroid
    heading for us all!!1! :p

    Finally! What the hell took it so long? I've been rooting for it for years.

    It only has a 2% chance of striking Earth.

    Can we do a kick starter and chip in to increase the odds?



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  • From kinkgh@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 10 02:13:45 2025
    In article <vo94nu$aiq4$[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
    BTR1701 <[email protected]> wrote:

    From the White House:

    Section 1. Purpose.

    The 2nd Amendment is an indispensable safeguard of security and
    liberty. It has preserved the right of the American people to protect >>>ourselves, our families, and our freedoms since the founding of our
    great Nation. Because it is foundational to maintaining all other
    rights held by Americans, the right to keep and bear arms must not be >>>infringed.

    Section 2. Plan of Action

    (a) Within 30 days of the date of this order, the Attorney General
    shall examine all orders, regulations, guidance, plans, international >>>agreements, and other actions of executive departments and agencies to >>>assess any ongoing infringements of the 2nd Amendment rights of our >>>citizens and present a proposed plan of action to the President,
    through the Domestic Policy Advisor, to protect the 2nd Amendment
    rights of all Americans.

    (b) In developing such proposed plan of action, the Attorney General >>>shall review, at a minimum:

    (i) All Presidential and agencies' actions from January 2021 through >>>January 2025 that purport to promote safety but may have impinged on
    the 2nd Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens;

    Glad the concern for the rights of LAW-ABIDING citizens is mentioned in >>paragraph 4. There are people who want to restore a convicted felon's
    gun rights; glad Trump doesn't.

    (vii) The processing of applications to make, manufacture, transfer,
    or
    export firearms.

    Plus a federal judge in Mississippi just ruled that the federal ban on >>>full-auto machine guns is unconstitutional.

    So nice he overrode a Supreme Court decision. Restore Al Capone's
    Tommygun rights!

    Tommyguns aren't illegal.

    [Kerman's incorrect formatting fixed.]

    --
    Not a joke! Don't jump!



    Why do we need guns? Trump is POTUS.

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